Re: release of predatory mites!

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I was just thinking - it would be a waste to release these predatory mites to an area that has been treated - like Earth Diamacious - I know my car has all kinds of crap I tried including baking soda and E Diamacioues. I hope there is a way you can vacuum all the stuff in the seats and carpeting before releasing them.

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 12:04:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: anyone tried predator mites?

That sounds really good Aggi. Thanks for finding the Latin name. The Hypoaspis was the genus, though not the exact species of the predatory mite in the paper which was not implicated in biting humans. I have my fingers crossed & look forward to hearing how it goes.Now we know the latin name we can find out how to get them in other countries. :~)Good luck with the venture.Best wishesKrys

On 6 June 2011 11:21, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Doris and Zelie,

I have also just spoken with Refona and they assured me that these predators with the Latin name 'Hypoaspis Miles' do not attack human beings. I am going to take the chance as it can't get any worse in my car... have already ordered 6 mite booster cartridges for it. Please keep your fingers crossed that this is going to work as this is my very last straw now. I'll keep you updated !

--- Doris Kennedy <kean2465@...> schrieb am Mo, 6.6.2011:

Von: Doris Kennedy <kean2465@...>Betreff: Re: Re: anyone tried predator mites?An: bird mites Datum: Montag, 6. Juni, 2011 15:15 Uhr

Thanks for the the research -

Yes - it worries me a little as well - I would like to try them in my car, but still, they could be carried elsewhere and either be a great blessing or a horrible new problem to deal with. I wish we could find people who have tried it.

From: Zelie Z <zelie417@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 6:12:20 AMSubject: Re: Re: anyone tried predator mites?

I contacted Refona and they confirmed that the predatory mites do not attack mammals or reptiles, only other mites.

I think they mistook me for a bird breeder (the irony isn't lost on me) and advised me to use invermectin on the birds and treat the area with the predatory mites

I'm tempted to try them but I am a bit worried. Even if they don't bite, I have this image in my mind of being overrun with mites - again! I will post an update if I decide to take the plunge.

Zélie

Supposedly these predatory creatures devour every last mite+eggs and then turn on each other - don't know how fast they might evolve and look elsewhere in survival mode??? don't know if the bacteria and poop that they leave behind is less then any other bug.

Scary -- but still - the possibilities are intriguing. I no longer live the horror. After 9 months I am left with nothing more than the sensations and allergic reactions to dust mites and various bacteria.

Currently these predatory bugs are used to save crops and trees threatened by mites etc. Haven't heard of any being released in a home. And exterminators are making too much money on the stuff that doesn't work, they wouldn't want to put themselves out of business by introducing a new and cheaper way which would not require follow-up treatment!

It's scary - but I would be tempted to release them in my car after more research.

I am still interested in whatever anyone else can find out about the subject.

From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 11:21:05 PMSubject: Re: Re: has anyone tried predator mites That's it. Hungry organisms don't die without first seeking a meal elsewhere.

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 11:46:13 PMSubject: Re: Re: has anyone tried predator mites

I would be very nervous about using predator mites Aggi. With all the bioengineering of insects and other things, I'd be afraid that it might have some parasites or something else. Maybe there is nothing to worry about, but with anything like a mite, I know myself and I would worry that things might get out of control. If they got rid of the birdmites, how would you finally get rid of them?

Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood> >>>>>> >>>>>Â > >>>>>Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! > >>>>>> >>>>>I was just talking with via

email and found out that none of you had heard > >>>>>yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood > >>>>>protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this > >>>>>protozoa is carrying a biofilm! > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else > >>>>>had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my > >>>>>environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e > >>>>>tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my > >>>>>experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from > >>>>>me and dismantle

their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be > >>>>>airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, > >>>>>then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol, borax, botanicals > >>>>>etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to > >>>>>work for long term relief. > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!> >>>>>> >>>>>Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their > >>>>>discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. > >>>>>Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most >

>>>>>informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their > >>>>>questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a > >>>>>talk radio blog. > >>>>>> >>>>>http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc> >>>>>Â > >>>>>here is the audio--> >>>>>http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0> >>>>>>

>>>>>I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the > >>>>>process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and > >>>>>yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood > >>>>>parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At > >>>>>least we all have something tangible to work with here...> >>>>>> >>>>>Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!> >>>>>> >>>>>Love> >>>>>Pdidit> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- > >>>They shut the road through the woods>

>>>Seventy years ago.> >>>Weather and rain have undone it again,> >>>And now you would never know> >>>There was once a road through the woods> >>>Before they planted the trees.> >>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,> >>>And the thin anemones.> >>>Only the keeper sees> >>>That, where the ring-dove broods,> >>>And the badgers roll at ease,> >>>There was once a road through the woods.> >>>> >>>Yet, if you enter the woods> >>>Of a summer evening late,> >>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> >>>Where the otter whistles his mate.> >>>(They fear not men in the woods,> >>>Because they see so few)> >>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>

>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> >>>Steadily cantering through> >>>The misty solitudes,> >>>As though they perfectly knew> >>>The old lost road through the woods….> >>>But there is no road through the woods. > >>>> >>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling> >>> > >> >> >-- > >They shut the road through the woods> >Seventy years ago.> >Weather and rain have undone it again,> >And now you would never know> >There was once a road through the woods> >Before they planted the trees.> >It is underneath the coppice and heath,> >And the thin anemones.> >Only the keeper sees> >That, where the ring-dove broods,> >And the badgers roll at ease,> >There was once a

road through the woods.> >> >Yet, if you enter the woods> >Of a summer evening late,> >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> >Where the otter whistles his mate.> >(They fear not men in the woods,> >Because they see so few)> >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> >And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> >Steadily cantering through> >The misty solitudes,> >As though they perfectly knew> >The old lost road through the woods….> >But there is no road through the woods. > >> >The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling> >>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road

through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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Hi

Doris how are you doing , all well here , I get nit once in while from old

trucks & the park etc. I kil it instaltly with the ' mix' works every time, if

it sosnt I use betadine then Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent : 1 tesp

per cup o water . A fres dusting of baking soda has stopped them drom bothering

me . If it dosen it soak seat or what e ver in borax water 1 cup & 1 cup spic &

span & 1 gal of water , I get 2 week of no bugs in the car from that.

My girlfriend has a pillow that is down , will dry cleaning sterilize it , I

have never tried that ? I want to burn that pillow . Give me a towel od shirt

I can soak in Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup per gal o water

each morning , thats safe and sound ...ahhhhh

God bless you Doris ,

Bill

On Mon Jun 6th, 2011 9:36 PM EDT Doris Kennedy wrote:

>I was just thinking - it would be a waste to release these predatory mites to

an

>area that has been treated - like Earth Diamacious - I know my car has all

kinds

>of crap I tried including baking soda and E Diamacioues.  I hope there is a

way

>you can vacuum all the stuff in the seats and carpeting before releasing them.

> 

>

>________________________________

>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 12:04:12 PM

>Subject: Re: Re: anyone tried predator mites?

>

> 

>That sounds really good Aggi. Thanks for finding the Latin name. The Hypoaspis

>was the genus, though not the exact species of the predatory mite in the paper

>which was not implicated in biting humans. I have my fingers crossed & look

>forward to hearing how it goes.

>Now we know the latin name we can find out how to get them in other countries.

>:~)

>Good luck with the venture.

>Best wishes

>Krys

>

>

>On 6 June 2011 11:21, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

>

> 

>>Hi Doris and Zelie,

>>I have also just spoken with Refona and they assured me that these predators

>>with the Latin name 'Hypoaspis Miles' do not attack human beings. I am going

to

>>take the chance as it can't get any worse in my car... have already ordered 6

>>mite booster cartridges for it. Please keep your fingers crossed that this is

>>going to work as this is my very last straw now. I'll keep you updated !

>>

>>

>>--- Doris Kennedy <kean2465@...> schrieb am Mo, 6.6.2011:

>>

>>

>>>Von: Doris Kennedy <kean2465@...>

>>>Betreff: Re: Re: anyone tried predator mites?

>>>An: bird mites

>>>Datum: Montag, 6. Juni, 2011 15:15 Uhr

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> 

>>>Thanks for the the research -

>>>Yes - it worries me a little as well - I would like to try them in my car,

but

>>>still, they could be carried elsewhere and either be a great blessing or a

>>>horrible new problem to deal with.  I wish we could find people who have

tried

>>>it.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>________________________________

>From: Zelie Z <zelie417@...>

>>>bird mites

>>>Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 6:12:20 AM

>>>Subject: Re: Re: anyone tried predator mites?

>>>

>>> 

>>>I contacted Refona and they confirmed that the predatory mites do not attack

>>>mammals or reptiles, only other mites.

>>>

>>>

>>>I think they mistook me for a bird breeder (the irony isn't lost on me) and

>>>advised me to use invermectin on the birds and treat the area with the

predatory

>>>mites

>>>

>>>I'm tempted to try them but I am a bit worried. Even if they don't bite, I

have

>>>this image in my mind of being overrun with mites - again!  I will post an

>>>update if I decide to take the plunge.

>>>

>>>Zélie

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> 

>>>>>Supposedly these predatory creaturesdevour every last mite+eggs and then

turn on

>>>>>each other - don't know how fast they might evolve and look elsewhere

>>>>>in survival mode??? don't know if the bacteria and poop that they leave

behind

>>>>>is less then any other bug. 

>>>>>

>>>>> 

>>>>>Scary -- but still - the possibilities are intriguing.  I no longer live

the

>>>>>horror.  After 9 months I am left with nothing more than the sensations

and

>>>>>allergic reactions to dust mites and various bacteria.

>>>>> 

>>>>>Currently these predatory bugs are used to save crops and trees threatened

by

>>>>>mites etc. Haven't heard of any being released in a home.  And

exterminators are

>>>>>making too much money on the stuff that doesn't work, they wouldn't want to

put

>>>>>themselves out of business by introducing a new and cheaper way which would

not

>>>>>require follow-up treatment!

>>>>> 

>>>>>It's scary - but I would be tempted to release them in my car after more

>>>>>research. 

>>>>>

>>>>> 

>>>>>I am still interested in whatever anyone else can find out about the

>subject.

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>________________________________

>

>>>>>From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>

>>>>>bird mites

>>>>>Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 11:21:05 PM

>>>>>Subject: Re: Re: has anyone tried predator mites

>>>>>

>>>>>  That's it. Hungry organisms don't die without first seeking a meal

>>>elsewhere.

>>>>>

>________________________________

>

>>>>>From: " Goldstein@... " <Goldstein@...>

>>>>>bird mites

>>>>>Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 11:46:13 PM

>>>>>Subject: Re: Re: has anyone tried predator mites

>>>>>

>>>>> 

>>>>>I would be very nervous about using predator mites Aggi.  With all the

>>>>>bioengineering of insects and other things, I'd be afraid that it might

have

>>>>>some parasites or something else.  Maybe there is nothing to worry about,

but

>>>>>with anything like a mite, I know myself and I would worry that things

might get

>>>>>out of control.  If they got rid of the birdmites, how would you finally

get rid

>>>>>of them?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>> 

>>>>>> >>>>>Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all!

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>I was just talking with via email and found out that none of

you had

>>>>>>heard

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found

a

>>>>>>blood

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found

that

>>>>>>this

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why

>>>>>>nothing else

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and

>>>>>>therefore, my

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the

same

>>>>>>boat..i.e

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since

from my

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them

totally

>>>>>>from

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some

protozoa

>>>>>>can be

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>airborne!  I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work

for a

>>>>>>while,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol, borax,

>>>>>>botanicals

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then

failed

>>>>>>to

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>work for long term relief. 

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about

their

>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio

to hear

>>>>>>Dr.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the

most

>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got

their

>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or

diagnose

>>>>>>via a

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>talk radio blog.

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

>>>>>> >>>>> 

>>>>>> >>>>>here is the audio--

>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-di\

scovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

>>>>>>0

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for

you...am

>>>>>>in the

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>process right now.  Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal

>>>>>>protozoa and

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are

blood

>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to

find out.

>>>>>>At

>>>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>least we all have something tangible to work with here...

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>Love

>>>>>> >>>>>Pdidit

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>>>

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>>--

>>>>>> >>>They shut the road through the woods

>>>>>> >>>Seventy years ago.

>>>>>> >>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>>>> >>>And now you would never know

>>>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods

>>>>>> >>>Before they planted the trees.

>>>>>> >>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>>>>> >>>And the thin anemones.

>>>>>> >>>Only the keeper sees

>>>>>> >>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>>>>> >>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>>>>> >>>Of a summer evening late,

>>>>>> >>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>>>>> >>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>>>>> >>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>>>>> >>>Because they see so few)

>>>>>> >>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>>>>> >>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>>>>> >>>Steadily cantering through

>>>>>> >>>The misty solitudes,

>>>>>> >>>As though they perfectly knew

>>>>>> >>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>>>>> >>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>>>>> >>>

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >--

>>>>>> >They shut the road through the woods

>>>>>> >Seventy years ago.

>>>>>> >Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>>>> >And now you would never know

>>>>>> >There was once a road through the woods

>>>>>> >Before they planted the trees.

>>>>>> >It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>>>>> >And the thin anemones.

>>>>>> >Only the keeper sees

>>>>>> >That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>>>>> >And the badgers roll at ease,

>>>>>> >There was once a road through the woods.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >Yet, if you enter the woods

>>>>>> >Of a summer evening late,

>>>>>> >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>>>>> >Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>>>>> >(They fear not men in the woods,

>>>>>> >Because they see so few)

>>>>>> >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>>>>> >And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>>>>> >Steadily cantering through

>>>>>> >The misty solitudes,

>>>>>> >As though they perfectly knew

>>>>>> >The old lost road through the woods….

>>>>>> >But there is no road through the woods.

>>>>>> >

>>>>>> >The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>>>>> >

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>--

>>>>They shut the road through the woods

>>>>Seventy years ago.

>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>>And now you would never know

>>>>There was once a road through the woods

>>>>Before they planted the trees.

>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>>>And the thin anemones.

>>>>Only the keeper sees

>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>>>

>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>>>Of a summer evening late,

>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>>>Because they see so few)

>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>>>Steadily cantering through

>>>>The misty solitudes,

>>>>As though they perfectly knew

>>>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>>

>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>>>

>

>

>--

>They shut the road through the woods

>Seventy years ago.

>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>And now you would never know

>There was once a road through the woods

>Before they planted the trees.

>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>And the thin anemones.

>Only the keeper sees

>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>And the badgers roll at ease,

>There was once a road through the woods.

>

>Yet, if you enter the woods

>Of a summer evening late,

>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>(They fear not men in the woods,

>Because they see so few)

>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>Steadily cantering through

>The misty solitudes,

>As though they perfectly knew

>The old lost road through the woods….

>But there is no road through the woods.

>

>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>

[Guest guest]

I would throw that pillow out -- not sure how much they would charge to dry clean it. I got so used to throw-away Walmart $3.50 foam pollows, I still buy a new one once in the while.

But my problem is mainly my Toyota Camry, keep getting bites in it, I use the Jeep Wrangler most of the time, no carpets, no cloth seats, NO BUGS.

What do you think about the predatory mite idea?

From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 9:07:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: release of predatory mites!

HiDoris how are you doing , all well here , I get nit once in while from old trucks & the park etc. I kil it instaltly with the ' mix' works every time, if it sosnt I use betadine then Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent : 1 tesp per cup o water . A fres dusting of baking soda has stopped them drom bothering me . If it dosen it soak seat or what e ver in borax water 1 cup & 1 cup spic & span & 1 gal of water , I get 2 week of no bugs in the car from that. My girlfriend has a pillow that is down , will dry cleaning sterilize it , I have never tried that ? I want to burn that pillow . Give me a towel od shirt I can soak in Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup per gal o water each morning , thats safe and sound ...ahhhhh God bless you Doris , BillOn Mon Jun 6th, 2011 9:36 PM EDT Doris Kennedy wrote:>I was just thinking - it would be a waste to release these predatory

mites to an >area that has been treated - like Earth Diamacious - I know my car has all kinds >of crap I tried including baking soda and E Diamacioues. I hope there is a way >you can vacuum all the stuff in the seats and carpeting before releasing them.> >>________________________________>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>>bird mites >Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 12:04:12 PM>Subject: Re: Re: anyone tried predator mites?>> >That sounds really good Aggi. Thanks for finding the Latin name. The Hypoaspis >was the genus, though not the exact species of the predatory mite

in the paper >which was not implicated in biting humans. I have my fingers crossed & look >forward to hearing how it goes.>Now we know the latin name we can find out how to get them in other countries. >:~)>Good luck with the venture.>Best wishes>Krys>>>On 6 June 2011 11:21, Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:>> >>Hi Doris and Zelie,>>I have also just spoken with Refona and they assured me that these predators >>with the Latin name 'Hypoaspis Miles' do not attack human beings. I am going to >>take the chance as it can't get any worse in my car... have already ordered 6 >>mite booster cartridges for it. Please keep your fingers crossed that this is >>going to work as this

is my very last straw now. I'll keep you updated !>>>>>>--- Doris Kennedy <kean2465@...> schrieb am Mo, 6.6.2011:>>>>>>>Von: Doris Kennedy <kean2465@...>>>>Betreff: Re: Re: anyone tried predator mites?>>>An: bird mites >>>Datum: Montag, 6. Juni, 2011 15:15 Uhr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Thanks for the the research - >>>Yes - it worries me a little as well - I would like to try them in my car,

but >>>still, they could be carried elsewhere and either be a great blessing or a >>>horrible new problem to deal with. I wish we could find people who have tried >>>it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>________________________________>From: Zelie Z <zelie417@...>>>>bird mites >>>Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 6:12:20 AM>>>Subject: Re: Re: anyone tried predator mites?>>>>>> >>>I contacted Refona and they confirmed that the predatory mites do not attack >>>mammals or reptiles, only other mites.

>>>>>>>>>I think they mistook me for a bird breeder (the irony isn't lost on me) and >>>advised me to use invermectin on the birds and treat the area with the predatory >>>mites >>>>>>I'm tempted to try them but I am a bit worried. Even if they don't bite, I have >>>this image in my mind of being overrun with mites - again! I will post an >>>update if I decide to take the plunge.>>>>>>Zélie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Supposedly these predatory creaturesdevour every last mite+eggs and then turn on >>>>>each other - don't know how fast they might evolve and look elsewhere >>>>>in survival mode??? don't know if the bacteria and poop that they leave behind >>>>>is less then any other bug. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Scary -- but still - the possibilities are intriguing. I no longer live the >>>>>horror. After 9 months I am left with nothing more than the sensations and >>>>>allergic reactions to dust mites and various bacteria.>>>>> >>>>>Currently these predatory bugs are used to save crops and trees

threatened by >>>>>mites etc. Haven't heard of any being released in a home. And exterminators are >>>>>making too much money on the stuff that doesn't work, they wouldn't want to put >>>>>themselves out of business by introducing a new and cheaper way which would not >>>>>require follow-up treatment!>>>>> >>>>>It's scary - but I would be tempted to release them in my car after more >>>>>research. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>I am still interested in whatever anyone else can find out about the >subject.>>>>> >>>>> >________________________________>>>>>>From: Kajay109 <kajay109@...>>>>>>bird mites >>>>>Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 11:21:05 PM>>>>>Subject: Re: Re: has anyone tried predator mites>>>>>>>>>> That's it. Hungry organisms don't die without first seeking a meal >>>elsewhere.>>>>>>________________________________>>>>>>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>>>>>>bird mites >>>>>Sent: Sat, June 4, 2011 11:46:13 PM>>>>>Subject: Re: Re: has anyone tried predator mites>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>I would be very nervous about using predator mites Aggi. With all the >>>>>bioengineering of insects and other things, I'd be afraid that it might have >>>>>some parasites or something else. Maybe there is nothing to worry about, but >>>>>with anything like a mite, I know myself and I would worry that things might get >>>>>out of control. If they got rid of the birdmites, how would

you finally get rid >>>>>of them? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Â >>>>>> >>>>>Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had >>>>>>heard >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a >>>>>>blood >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>protozoan in some

people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that >>>>>>this >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>protozoa is carrying a biofilm! >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why >>>>>>nothing else >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and >>>>>>therefore, my >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same >>>>>>boat..i.e >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since

from my >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally >>>>>>from >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa >>>>>>can be >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a >>>>>>while, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol, borax, >>>>>>botanicals >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed >>>>>>to

>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>work for long term relief. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their >>>>>>>>> >>>>>discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear >>>>>>Dr. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most >>>>>>>>> >>>>>informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose >>>>>>via a >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>talk radio blog. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc>>>>>> >>>>>Â >>>>>> >>>>>here is the audio-->>>>>>>>>>>http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0>>>>>>0>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am

>>>>>>in the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal >>>>>>protozoa and >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. >>>>>>At >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>least we all have something tangible to work with here...>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>Love>>>>>> >>>>>Pdidit>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>-- >>>>>> >>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>>> >>>Seventy years ago.>>>>>> >>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>>>> >>>And now you would never know>>>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>>> >>>Before they planted the trees.>>>>>> >>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>>> >>>And the thin anemones.>>>>>>

>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>>> >>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>>> >>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>>> >>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>>> >>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>>> >>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>>> >>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>>>>> >>>Because they see so few)>>>>>> >>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>>> >>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>>> >>>Steadily cantering

through>>>>>> >>>The misty solitudes,>>>>>> >>>As though they perfectly knew>>>>>> >>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>>> >>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >-- >>>>>> >They shut the road through the woods>>>>>> >Seventy years ago.>>>>>> >Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>>>> >And now you would never know>>>>>> >There was once a road through the woods>>>>>> >Before they planted the

trees.>>>>>> >It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>>> >And the thin anemones.>>>>>> >Only the keeper sees>>>>>> >That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>>> >And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>>> >There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>> >>>>>>> >Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>>> >Of a summer evening late,>>>>>> >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>>> >Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>>> >(They fear not men in the woods,>>>>>> >Because they see so few)>>>>>> >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>>> >And the swish of a skirt in the

dew,>>>>>> >Steadily cantering through>>>>>> >The misty solitudes,>>>>>> >As though they perfectly knew>>>>>> >The old lost road through the woods….>>>>>> >But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>Seventy years ago.>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>>And now you would never know>>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>Before they planted the trees.>>>>It is underneath the coppice

and heath,>>>>And the thin anemones.>>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>>>Because they see so few)>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>Steadily cantering through>>>>The misty solitudes,>>>>As though they perfectly knew>>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>> >>>-- >They shut the road through the woods>Seventy years ago.>Weather and rain have undone it again,>And now you would never know>There was once a road through the woods>Before they planted the trees.>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>And the thin anemones.>Only the keeper sees>That, where the ring-dove broods,>And the badgers roll at ease,>There was once a road through the woods.>>Yet, if you enter the woods>Of a summer evening late,>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>Where the otter whistles his mate.>(They fear not men in the woods,>Because they see so few)>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>Steadily cantering

through>The misty solitudes,>As though they perfectly knew>The old lost road through the woods….>But there is no road through the woods. >>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>

[Guest guest]

The article said 6 weeks since pesticides, and the temp must be above freezing,

they will die. For the car perhaps get a shop vac and wet carpet with sprayers,

then vac up? It will be difficult. My old car had a ton of DE in it:(

> >>>>> >>>>

> >>>>> >>>>

> >>>>> >>>> 

> >>>>> >>>>>Hi!

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get

tests

> >>>>>run even

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>if you live abroad?

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>Take care!

> >>>>> >>>>>Cecilia

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> ________________________________

> >>>>> From: S <pshannon9@>

> >>>>> >>>>>bird mites

> >>>>> >>>>>Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PM

> >>>>> >>>>>Subject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>> 

> >>>>> >>>>>Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all!

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>I was just talking with via email and found out that none of

you had

> >>>>>heard

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had

found a

> >>>>>blood

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found

that

> >>>>>this

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why

> >>>>>nothing else

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and

> >>>>>therefore, my

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the

same

> >>>>>boat..i.e

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since

from my

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them

totally

> >>>>>from

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some

protozoa

> >>>>>can be

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>airborne!  I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would

work for a

> >>>>>while,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol, borax,

> >>>>>botanicals

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then

failed

> >>>>>to

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>work for long term relief. 

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about

their

> >>

> >>>>> >>>>>discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio

to hear

> >>>>>Dr.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the

most

> >>

> >>>>> >>>>>informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got

their

> >>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or

diagnose

> >>>>>via a

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>talk radio blog.

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

> >>>>> >>>>> 

> >>>>> >>>>>here is the audio--

>

>>>>>>>>>>http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-dis\

covers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

> >>>>>0

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for

you...am

> >>>>>in the

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>process right now.  Metametrix labs had found I had an

intestinal

> >>>>>protozoa and

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are

blood

> >>>

> >>>>> >>>>>parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to

find out.

> >>>>>At

> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>least we all have something tangible to work with here...

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>Love

> >>>>> >>>>>Pdidit

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>> >>>

> >>>>> >>>

> >>>>> >>>--

> >>>>> >>>They shut the road through the woods

> >>>>> >>>Seventy years ago.

> >>>>> >>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>>> >>>And now you would never know

> >>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods

> >>>>> >>>Before they planted the trees.

> >>>>> >>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>>> >>>And the thin anemones.

> >>>>> >>>Only the keeper sees

> >>>>> >>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>>> >>>And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>>> >>>

> >>>>> >>>Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>>> >>>Of a summer evening late,

> >>>>> >>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>>> >>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>>> >>>(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>>> >>>Because they see so few)

> >>>>> >>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>>> >>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>>> >>>Steadily cantering through

> >>>>> >>>The misty solitudes,

> >>>>> >>>As though they perfectly knew

> >>>>> >>>The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>>> >>>But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>>> >>>

> >>>>> >>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>>> >>>

> >>>>> >

> >>>>> >

> >>>>> >--

> >>>>> >They shut the road through the woods

> >>>>> >Seventy years ago.

> >>>>> >Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>>> >And now you would never know

> >>>>> >There was once a road through the woods

> >>>>> >Before they planted the trees.

> >>>>> >It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>>> >And the thin anemones.

> >>>>> >Only the keeper sees

> >>>>> >That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>>> >And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>>> >There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>>> >

> >>>>> >Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>>> >Of a summer evening late,

> >>>>> >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>>> >Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>>> >(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>>> >Because they see so few)

> >>>>> >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>>> >And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>>> >Steadily cantering through

> >>>>> >The misty solitudes,

> >>>>> >As though they perfectly knew

> >>>>> >The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>>> >But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>>> >

> >>>>> >The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>>> >

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>--

> >>>They shut the road through the woods

> >>>Seventy years ago.

> >>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>And now you would never know

> >>>There was once a road through the woods

> >>>Before they planted the trees.

> >>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>And the thin anemones.

> >>>Only the keeper sees

> >>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>

> >>>Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>Of a summer evening late,

> >>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>Because they see so few)

> >>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>Steadily cantering through

> >>>The misty solitudes,

> >>>As though they perfectly knew

> >>>The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>

> >>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>

>

>

> --

> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

>

> The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>

[Guest guest]

I use the bed bug covers for my pillows. Wash pillow case or spray with

wintergreen or regular rubbing alcohol before bed. You can also do this to the

bed.

http://www.amazon.com/Bed-Bug-Pillow-Cover-Protector/dp/B004BUP9AQ

> >>>>>> >>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>

> >>>>>> >>>> 

> >>>>>> >>>>>Hi!

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get

tests

> >>>

> >>>>>>run even

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>if you live abroad?

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Take care!

> >>>>>> >>>>>Cecilia

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> ________________________________

> >>>>>> From: S <pshannon9@>

> >>>>>> >>>>>bird mites

> >>>>>> >>>>>Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PM

> >>>>>> >>>>>Subject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>> 

> >>>>>> >>>>>Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all!

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>I was just talking with via email and found out that none of

you had

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>heard

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had

found a

> >>

> >>>>>>blood

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has

found that

> >>>>

> >>>>>>this

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason

why

> >>>>>>nothing else

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and

> >>>>>>therefore, my

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the

same

> >>

> >>>>>>boat..i.e

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since

from my

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them

totally

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>from

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some

protozoa

> >>>

> >>>>>>can be

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>airborne!  I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would

work for a

> >>>>

> >>>>>>while,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol, borax,

> >>>>>>botanicals

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then

failed

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>to

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>work for long term relief. 

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site

about their

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio

to hear

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Dr.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the

most

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>informative, since toward the end not many people who called in

got their

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or

diagnose

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>via a

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>talk radio blog.

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

> >>>>>> >>>>> 

> >>>>>> >>>>>here is the audio--

>

>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-di\

scovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>0

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for

you...am

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>in the

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>process right now.  Metametrix labs had found I had an

intestinal

> >>>>>>protozoa and

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are

blood

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to

find out.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>At

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>least we all have something tangible to work with here...

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Love

> >>>>>> >>>>>Pdidit

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>--

> >>>>>> >>>They shut the road through the woods

> >>>>>> >>>Seventy years ago.

> >>>>>> >>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>>>> >>>And now you would never know

> >>>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods

> >>>>>> >>>Before they planted the trees.

> >>>>>> >>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>>>> >>>And the thin anemones.

> >>>>>> >>>Only the keeper sees

> >>>>>> >>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>>>> >>>And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>>>> >>>Of a summer evening late,

> >>>>>> >>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>>>> >>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>>>> >>>(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>>>> >>>Because they see so few)

> >>>>>> >>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>>>> >>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>>>> >>>Steadily cantering through

> >>>>>> >>>The misty solitudes,

> >>>>>> >>>As though they perfectly knew

> >>>>>> >>>The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>>>> >>>But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>> >--

> >>>>>> >They shut the road through the woods

> >>>>>> >Seventy years ago.

> >>>>>> >Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>>>> >And now you would never know

> >>>>>> >There was once a road through the woods

> >>>>>> >Before they planted the trees.

> >>>>>> >It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>>>> >And the thin anemones.

> >>>>>> >Only the keeper sees

> >>>>>> >That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>>>> >And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>>>> >There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>> >Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>>>> >Of a summer evening late,

> >>>>>> >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>>>> >Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>>>> >(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>>>> >Because they see so few)

> >>>>>> >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>>>> >And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>>>> >Steadily cantering through

> >>>>>> >The misty solitudes,

> >>>>>> >As though they perfectly knew

> >>>>>> >The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>>>> >But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>> >The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>--

> >>>>They shut the road through the woods

> >>>>Seventy years ago.

> >>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>>And now you would never know

> >>>>There was once a road through the woods

> >>>>Before they planted the trees.

> >>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>>And the thin anemones.

> >>>>Only the keeper sees

> >>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>>There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>>

> >>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>>Of a summer evening late,

> >>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>>Because they see so few)

> >>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>>Steadily cantering through

> >>>>The misty solitudes,

> >>>>As though they perfectly knew

> >>>>The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>>But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>>

> >>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>>

> >

> >

> >--

> >They shut the road through the woods

> >Seventy years ago.

> >Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >And now you would never know

> >There was once a road through the woods

> >Before they planted the trees.

> >It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >And the thin anemones.

> >Only the keeper sees

> >That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >And the badgers roll at ease,

> >There was once a road through the woods.

> >

> >Yet, if you enter the woods

> >Of a summer evening late,

> >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >(They fear not men in the woods,

> >Because they see so few)

> >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >Steadily cantering through

> >The misty solitudes,

> >As though they perfectly knew

> >The old lost road through the woods….

> >But there is no road through the woods.

> >

> >The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can down be washed? I threw our expensive down comforters when I got mites 3-1/2 years ago. Figured that would be a safe harbor for them, so that went to the dump. Had a lot of new stuff too. If your girlfriend can't part with that down pillow, I'd definitely buy one of these covers that Marie sent the link for--Probably about $10 including shipping. And, it isn't plastic which is hard for some people to get used to because of how noisy plastic is and pillow cases slip off plastic easily. I don't know if birdmites could enter the pillow after that if dust mites can't enter it. I'd consider putting the down pillow first in the oven at 150 degrees for 1-2 hours not touching any part of the oven except the rack. Cover rack with baking paper. Then put the new cover on the pillow. Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>ÂÂ

> >>>>>> >>>>>Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all!

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>heard

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a

> >>

> >>>>>>blood

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that

> >>>>

> >>>>>>this

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why

> >>>>>>nothing else

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and

> >>>>>>therefore, my

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same

> >>

> >>>>>>boat..i.e

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>from

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa

> >>>

> >>>>>>can be

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a

> >>>>

> >>>>>>while,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol, borax,

> >>>>>>botanicals

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>to

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>work for long term relief.ÂÂ

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>Dr.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>via a

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>talk radio blog.

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

> >>>>>> >>>>>ÂÂ

> >>>>>> >>>>>here is the audio--

> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>0

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>in the

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal

> >>>>>>protozoa and

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>At

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>least we all have something tangible to work with here...

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>Love

> >>>>>> >>>>>Pdidit

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>>>

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>--

> >>>>>> >>>They shut the road through the woods

> >>>>>> >>>Seventy years ago.

> >>>>>> >>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>>>> >>>And now you would never know

> >>>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods

> >>>>>> >>>Before they planted the trees.

> >>>>>> >>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>>>> >>>And the thin anemones.

> >>>>>> >>>Only the keeper sees

> >>>>>> >>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>>>> >>>And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>>>> >>>There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>>>> >>>Of a summer evening late,

> >>>>>> >>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>>>> >>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>>>> >>>(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>>>> >>>Because they see so few)

> >>>>>> >>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>>>> >>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>>>> >>>Steadily cantering through

> >>>>>> >>>The misty solitudes,

> >>>>>> >>>As though they perfectly knew

> >>>>>> >>>The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>>>> >>>But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>>>> >>>

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>> >--

> >>>>>> >They shut the road through the woods

> >>>>>> >Seventy years ago.

> >>>>>> >Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>>>> >And now you would never know

> >>>>>> >There was once a road through the woods

> >>>>>> >Before they planted the trees.

> >>>>>> >It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>>>> >And the thin anemones.

> >>>>>> >Only the keeper sees

> >>>>>> >That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>>>> >And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>>>> >There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>> >Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>>>> >Of a summer evening late,

> >>>>>> >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>>>> >Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>>>> >(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>>>> >Because they see so few)

> >>>>>> >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>>>> >And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>>>> >Steadily cantering through

> >>>>>> >The misty solitudes,

> >>>>>> >As though they perfectly knew

> >>>>>> >The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>>>> >But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>> >The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>>>> >

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>--

> >>>>They shut the road through the woods

> >>>>Seventy years ago.

> >>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>>And now you would never know

> >>>>There was once a road through the woods

> >>>>Before they planted the trees.

> >>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>>And the thin anemones.

> >>>>Only the keeper sees

> >>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>>There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>>

> >>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>>Of a summer evening late,

> >>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>>Because they see so few)

> >>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>>Steadily cantering through

> >>>>The misty solitudes,

> >>>>As though they perfectly knew

> >>>>The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>>But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>>

> >>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>>

> >

> >

> >--

> >They shut the road through the woods

> >Seventy years ago.

> >Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >And now you would never know

> >There was once a road through the woods

> >Before they planted the trees.

> >It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >And the thin anemones.

> >Only the keeper sees

> >That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >And the badgers roll at ease,

> >There was once a road through the woods.

> >

> >Yet, if you enter the woods

> >Of a summer evening late,

> >When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >(They fear not men in the woods,

> >Because they see so few)

> >You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >Steadily cantering through

> >The misty solitudes,

> >As though they perfectly knew

> >The old lost road through the woods….

> >But there is no road through the woods.

> >

> >The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >

>