Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 The benzalkonium chloride is the same active ingredient as Lysol & various other household cleaners. The fossil shell dust they refer to sounds like it probably is DE. From what I can gather the MMS contains sodium chlorite which when activated with the citric acid, produces chlorine dioxide, which is a kind of bleach also used in water treatment. Maybe Lysol & DE might be closer. On 29 May 2011 09:20, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote: The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the active ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed fossil shell dust. http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.html http://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/ So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to the same? Both are disinfectants. -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Krys, I am so sorry your mother is suffering from this, but I have to say you have been a store house of information for us. Thank you! The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the active ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed fossil shell dust.http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.htmlhttp://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to the same? Both are disinfectants. -- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Perhaps. However the Benzalkonium chloride, also known as alkyldimethylbenzylammonium chloride, has three main categories of use; as a biocide, a cationic surfactant and phase transfer agent in the chemical industry. Chlorine dioxide is used in many industrial water treatment applications as a biocide including cooling towers, process water and food processing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactericide > > > > > > > The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding > > spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the active > > ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed > > fossil shell dust. > > http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.html > > http://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/ > > So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to the > > same? Both are disinfectants. > > > > > > > > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods > Seventy years ago. > Weather and rain have undone it again, > And now you would never know > There was once a road through the woods > Before they planted the trees. > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > And the thin anemones. > Only the keeper sees > That, where the ring-dove broods, > And the badgers roll at ease, > There was once a road through the woods. > > Yet, if you enter the woods > Of a summer evening late, > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > Where the otter whistles his mate. > (They fear not men in the woods, > Because they see so few) > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > Steadily cantering through > The misty solitudes, > As though they perfectly knew > The old lost road through the woods…. > But there is no road through the woods. > * > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 A common misconception that many people have when learning about MMS is thinking that miracle mineral solution is the same as household bleach. While MMS and household bleach do have some things in common, they are also very different. This article explains the similarities and differences between MMS and common bleach. Like sodium chlorite, bleach is made up of sodium, chlorine, and oxygen molecules. Bleach is found in many everyday household cleaning products, including laundry detergents, soaps, and bathroom cleaners. The biggest advantage that bleach has over MMS is that it is ready to use as sold. When you need to use bleach, you simply open the bottle and use it. There is no mixing or waiting for a chemical reaction to take place. MMS requires mixing two ingredients together to create chlorine dioxide gas, and requires a few minutes of wait time for the reaction to occur. In this regard, bleach is much more appealing because it is much simpler to use. Another advantage that bleach has over miracle mineral products is its availability. Because bleach is such a common household item, it can be found many places. Bleach can be found in supermarkets, pharmacies, and even convenience stores. Because it is new to the market and not nearly as understood or accepted as bleach, miracle mineral solution does not have the kind of popular reach that bleach does. Of course, the fact that something is popular does not necessarily mean that it is the most sensible. In many cases, this is true with bleach. MMS, while not an exact replacement for bleach, can effectively replace bleach for many purposes, while offering important advantages that bleach does not. As you probably know, virtually all of America's municipal tap water is chlorinated. This means that water districts add small amounts of bleach into the public water supply before it is pumped out to the districts they serve. Chlorine levels are different around the country, and if you have traveled to a number of places around the country you may have noticed a difference in the level of chlorine that you tasted in the water. The jury is still out on how unhealthy chlorinated water is for the human population. We have our opinions here at GetMMS and we're sure you do too. The important thing to note about chlorinated water is that it creates toxins – not directly in your body, but in the water itself. When a molecule of bleach interacts with an organic substance, a chemical reaction takes place that creates a trihalomethane. Trihalomethanes are carcinogens (cancer-causing compounds) that are used in industrial work for solvents and refrigerants. Organic substances include almost any carbon-based material. Chlorine bleach is added to municipal water supplies because it reduces the possibility of diseases spreading through the water. For the most part, it does a good job at keeping these risks low – but this comes at a price, and the price is the formation of trihalomethanes in the water supply. Fortunately, water districts around the country are slowly figuring out that bleach is not the best way to achieve their goals of minimizing contamination in the water supply, and are switching over to using sodium chlorate or sodium chlorite (MMS!) to purify their water. This, we think, is a step in the right direction. Imagine yourself using bleach around the house. You might use it in the bathroom to brighten tiles or clean the sink. You might use it in the kitchen to disinfect a cutting board. Now imagine how many times the bleach you are using has interacted with an organic substance. It might be bits of food in the kitchen. It might be the cutting board itself, if it is made of wood. It might be the paper towel you use to clean with. Whenever he bleach you are using contacts these organic substances, cancer-causing trihalomethanes are produced. We are happy to say that miracle mineral supplement does not produce trihalomethanes when interacting with organic material. MMS can be used as a bleach replacement for disinfecting without creating any toxic byproducts. For more information on using MMS as a bleach alternative, see our comprehensive report on ways you can use MSS in your home. http://www.squidoo.com/getmms > > > > > > > > > > > The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding > > > spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the active > > > ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed > > > fossil shell dust. > > > http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.html > > > http://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/ > > > So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to the > > > same? Both are disinfectants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > They shut the road through the woods > > Seventy years ago. > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > And now you would never know > > There was once a road through the woods > > Before they planted the trees. > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > And the thin anemones. > > Only the keeper sees > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > Of a summer evening late, > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > Because they see so few) > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > Steadily cantering through > > The misty solitudes, > > As though they perfectly knew > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > But there is no road through the woods. > > * > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 About ClO2 http://www.bacteriabegone.com/about_ClO2.html This is a very unique chemistry. It is powerful enough to kill very threatening diseases yet, it can be used in food preparation areas, schools, hospitals and other areas where people commonly gather. The chemistry has been around for many years and is very common in large scale operations for maintaining disinfected environments for drinking water storage. How does Chlorine Dioxide work? Chlorine Dioxide works by attacking the surfaces of the microbes and breaking them down. This eliminates the ability of the microbe to spread. It works on contact and continues to work until dry. What does Chlorine Dioxide kill? Chlorine Dioxide is a Bacteriacide, Viruscide, Fungicide, and Tuberculicide. Chlorine Dioxide is uniquely effective against biofilm and is proven against blood borne pathogens such as MRSA, VRE, HIV, and HEP-C. It also controls A virus, Salmonella, Listeria, E-Colli and Trichophyton among others. Can Chlorine Dioxide be utilized on a variety of surfaces? Chlorine Dioxide can be safely used with great efficacy on stainless steel, laminate, ceramics, vinyl, plastic and other non-porous surfaces. Even non-porous surfaces that appear soft such as vinyl and plastic covered chairs and mattresses can be effectively treated.It can also be used on porous color fast surfaces such as carpets, pillows, stuffed toys, etc. (It is always a good idea to check a corner for color fastness.) It can be used as a swab on skin afflictions from acne to athletes foot. It can even be used to sanitize shoes, baby toys, dog bedding when they are placed in a bag and when the Chlorine Dioxide is allowed to form a gas. How frequently should I apply Chlorine Dioxide to a surface? For the greatest efficacy,Chlorine Dioxide should be used as part of a daily or weekly routine on all common non-porous surfaces (such as sinks, countertops, toilets, door handles). It should be used as needed on other items such as baby toys, dog beds, telephones, key boards, etc. Do I need to rinse or clean surfaces after spraying Chlorine Dioxide? No! Chlorine Dioxide requires no finish rinse. Simply apply it and forget it. In fact, it continues its action until the treated surface area is dry. It leaves no active residue behind. How is Dr. Piero's Microbe Eliminator different from other ClO2 products? Other Chlorine Dioxide products have a shelf life of One Year from manufactures made date when shipped premixed. Or other Chlorine Dioxide products come in two or more separate bottles to mix and some have a shelf life of only 1 week. Dr. Piero's Microbe Eliminator is more convenient in a tablet form that you dissolve when needed and has a shelf life of 2 months AFTER you dissolve the tablet. This product is greener and less expensive to ship, since it is in tablet form. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding > > > > spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the active > > > > ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed > > > > fossil shell dust. > > > > http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.html > > > > http://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/ > > > > So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to the > > > > same? Both are disinfectants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > Seventy years ago. > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > And now you would never know > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > And the thin anemones. > > > Only the keeper sees > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > Because they see so few) > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > Steadily cantering through > > > The misty solitudes, > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > * > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Where Microbes Lurk May 2nd ,2011 http://www.bacteriabegone.com/blog.html There are lots of places we tend to forget when sanitizing our homes and work places. A towel sprayed with Chlorine Dioxide and used to wipe surfaces is an excellent way to reduce colds and flu. Some of the " forgotten " places are: Door knobs Telephone receivers Cell phones Computer key board Computer mouse Lotion bottle Stapler Purse and briefcase handles Cabinet and cupboard handles Plastic containers storing items Toilet flusher Sink fixtures Washer and drier knobs Light switch plates Printers & copiers Fax machines Dishwasher buttons Stove knobs Microwave buttons Keys …and of course your hands. I'll bet you can come up with dozen more in your environment! Wash Fruits And Vegetables April 1st,2011 Microbes (that can cause mild to severe stomach bug) from the skins of fruits and outsides of vegetables can easily be carried from the fruit or vegetable to the cutting board and then contaminate the inside of the produce. This is not a problem with produce that you cook. But if you are eating fruit (oranges, apples, melons, pineapples, etc.) or raw produce (lettuce, radishes, cukes, tomatoes, carrots, celery, broccoli, cauliflower, etc.) and even peeling them, be sure that you do not contaminate the cutting board or counter top. The best way to eliminate the potential for illness caused by germs is to spray or dip the produce in a solution of ClO2. To extend the life of your produce, dip or spray them before storing. There is no need to rinse the produce with clear water. Waiting about 10 minutes before eating the produce will not affect the taste at all. And don't forget to use the ClO2 solution on the cutting board, sink, faucets and countertop when you clean up the kitchen. Problem With Mold? March 1st,2011 Bathrooms are notorious for mold, especially on the grout. They tell you not to use harsh chemicals on the tile because the chemicals may deteriorate the grout. Here is where Chlorine Dioxide works wonders. It is non corrosive, so can't hurt the grout. Yet, it packs a powerful punch when it comes to attacking mold, mildew and algae. Not all molds are visible, so it is wise to mix up a quart of water with a tablet of Chlorine Dioxide and rinse down the entire tile, the floor, the tub and the toilet. Use it liberally and don't wipe dry, let it set for at least 10 minutes. The nice thing about ClO2 is that it also kills spores (bleach does not). Alcohol, a standard disinfectant, actually can cause bacteria to go to the spore stage which can make the organism survive for years or decades or even centuries, only to reemerge when conditions are optimal. Where Microbes Lurk February 2nd,2011 There are lots of places we tend to forget when sanitizing our homes and work places. A towel sprayed with Chlorine Dioxide and used to wipe surfaces is an excellent way to reduce colds and flu. Some of the " forgotten " places are: Door knobs Telephone receivers Cell phones Computer key board Computer mouse Lotion bottle Stapler Purse and briefcase handles Cabinet and cupboard handles Plastic containers storing items Toilet flusher Sink fixtures Washer and drier knobs Light switch plates Printers & copiers Fax machines Dishwasher buttons Stove knobs Microwave buttons Keys Bad Breath's A Bummer January 18,2011 Being a dentist, I see patient's everyday. And I meet a lot more people with bad breath than the average person does. Job hazard. Sometimes the odor is due to poor oral hygiene or periodontal disease. Sometimes because they ate a garlic pizza before coming in to get their teeth cleaned. Sometimes it's the medications or the systemic diseases that my patient may be suffering with and its side effects are causing the bad breath. Sometimes the patient has excellent oral hygiene, but is predisposed to halitosis. Whatever the reason, the patient usually isn't interested in the root cause of the problem…but rather what can they treat it with. The best product to reduce the bacteria in the mouth which is causing the odor is to rinse the mouth with Chlorine Dioxide. ClO2 will not mask the odor. It kills the bacteria. Patients who use ClO2 as their mouth wash are keeping their breath odor free longer during the day, because they are killing the bacteria. I also tell my patients to spray the solution in their mouth every once in a while during the day as you would a breath spray. Not Just For Bad Breath I know most people are interested in ClO2 as a bad breath reducer, but in the mouth it has other fine qualities. 1) It helps fight periodontal disease along with a perio regimen that includes meticulous daily home care to the teeth and gums and may include more frequent professional cleanings, scrapings & /or surgery. By rinsing one or two times a day with Chlorine Dioxide, you rid the mouth of the plaque producing bacteria. 2) It also works as a gargle for sore throats. Bacteria form biofilm. By eliminating the bacteria in the mouth and along the throat, the tissue has a better chance of fighting off the infection and repairing itself. 3) It helps heal mouth sores. Getting Even More Out Of Your Chlorine Dioxide January 7, 2011 An interesting characteristic of ClO2 is that a half used bottle will actually diminish its strength faster than if you where to refill the bottle with water. This is because the gas in the liquid is dissipating into the air left in the half bottle. This means that if you were to dissolve a tablet of ClO2 in a quart of water it would be at 35ppm. Then let's say you used ½ of the quart on sanitizing your pet area. The amount left in the bottle would diminish to 17ppm (½ of 35ppm) very quickly. If you were to immediately refill the ½ quart to the top you would have a whole quart at 17ppm. So to get even more out of your ClO2, you can use the product and keep filling it with water. When the liquid no longer has a faint smell it is at a very low concentration. However, realize that even at 1ppm the product is effective as a sanitizer and at .02ppm is used as sanitized drinking water. What Is The Difference Between Chlorine Dioxide And Chlorine Bleach? August 10,2010 Unfortunately, the word " chlorine " is found in both Chlorine Dioxide (ClO2) and Chlorine Bleach (NaClO). This has led to a lot of confusion. Chlorine Dioxide Does NOT release free chlorine Does NOT release harmful byproducts Highly effective on bacteria, virus, protozoa, algae, fungus Long term residual disinfection effectiveness Penetrates biofilm more effectively Non-corrosive Does not react with ammonia Microbes do not build resistance Broad spectrum antimicrobial Kills spores Effective at a wide range of pH VERSUS: Chlorine Bleach Releases free chlorine Releases harmful hypochlorous acid Very low disinfection on bacteria, virus, protozoa, algae, fungus Shorter effectiveness on water treatment Does not penetrate biofilm as effectively Corrosive Very toxic reaction with ammonia Microbes build resistance to bleach Narrow spectrum antimicrobial Does not kill spores Reaction greatly affected by pH Sanitizing Water August 10,2010 Some people have asked, " If this stuff is so good, why isn't it used in disaster areas to clean up the water? " The answer is, " It is! " When water is taken in or treated at disaster sites, it is Chlorine Dioxide that is used. The water has to be contained in something (not just a river bed or pond). The water in tanker trucks or drums is treated with Chlorine Dioxide to 0.02ppm to be safe to drink. One of our tablets (which have a 35ppm concentration in one quart of water) would sanitize 40 gallons of water. Drop one tablet in 40 gallons of water and wait 30 minutes. The water is safe to drink. If you use one tablet in less than 40 gallons, keep the container opened and wait about 2 hours. This will allow the gas to dissipate, reduce the dosage to a very low level and be safe to drink. Why Does Chlorine Dioxide Have Such A Short Shelf Life? May 11,2010 ClO2 is a liquid AND a gas. Think of a bottle of soda pop. The carbonation in a bottle of soda pop creates the fizz in the liquid. However, once opened and left unsealed, the soda pop " loses " its fizz. The carbon dioxide dissipates into the air. The gas that is released is very evident in some sodas – take ginger ale for instance. If you get to close to the glass, the gas goes up your nose and makes you sneeze or cough. Well, ClO2 is similar, although not exactly like the soda pop. In its liquid form, ClO2 will immediately begin to dissipate and consequently lose its strength. It also is light and air sensitive. If left opened or in a clear container, the concentration of ClO2 will diminish very rapidly than if stored in a sealed opaque container. So if you are buying " liquid drops " to add in water, you probably are not getting any value from the purchase as the compound in the bottle started losing its efficacy the minute it was made and bottled. (Here it is unlike the soda pop, as ClO2 will also lose strength just sitting unopened, although at a slower rate than if left opened to the air.) This is why the tablet form is not only more convenient and " green " , it also is more effective. You drop a tablet in a quart of water when you are ready to use it. Keep it in a sealed opaque bottle and it will last two months. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding > > > > > spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the active > > > > > ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed > > > > > fossil shell dust. > > > > > http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.html > > > > > http://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/ > > > > > So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to the > > > > > same? Both are disinfectants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > And now you would never know > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > * > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 How to Use http://www.bacteriabegone.com/howto_use.html There are two ways to prepare the Chlorine Dioxide: As a Liquid Dissolve 1 tablet in 1 quart of water (= 35ppm of Chlorine Dioxide) Mix when ready to use. Mix in sealed opaque spray bottle (not clear). Use within two months of putting in solution for highest level of effectiveness. (effective at up to 1ppm) Tablets sealed in foil will keep indefinitely. As a Gas Open foil packet completely. Add 1 tsp of water to foil. Immediately place foil packet in a bag with items needing to be sanitized. Seal the bag. Allow items to remain in sealed bag overnight. There are many uses for Chlorine Dioxide: Skin Afflictions: Spray minor cuts, burns, skin irritations or skin afflictions at least 2-3 times per day. You can not apply too much or too many times. Soak a facial pad and apply to face for acne. Athlete foot fungus & odor in shoes: Option 1: Place all your shoes in a plastic bag. Open foil packet completely. Add 1 tsp of water to foil. Immediately place foil packet in bag and seal. Allow shoes to remain in sealed bag overnight. Option 2: Spray Chlorine Dioxide directly into shoe. Sanitize a large quantity of baby toys: Place all the toys (plastic or material) in a plastic bag. Open foil packet completely. Add 1 tsp of water to foil. Immediately place foil packet in bag and seal. Allow toys to remain in sealed bag overnight. Fruits & Vegetables Spray or soak fruits and vegetables for 1 minute to decontaminate. Do not rinse. Other Uses Pet odor eliminator (www.PetOdorXX.com) Mouth wash & bad breath reducer (www.BadBreathWash.com) Sanitize all household surfaces (www.SanitizeItAll.com) Periodontal rinse (www.DrPierosPeriodontal.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding > > > > > > spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the active > > > > > > ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed > > > > > > fossil shell dust. > > > > > > http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.html > > > > > > http://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/ > > > > > > So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to the > > > > > > same? Both are disinfectants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > > > Seventy years ago. > > > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > > > And now you would never know > > > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > > > And the thin anemones. > > > > > Only the keeper sees > > > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > > > Because they see so few) > > > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > > > Steadily cantering through > > > > > The misty solitudes, > > > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > > * > > > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Whether a solution containing chlorine dioxde with DE would be more effective than the benzalkonium chloride mixture I wouldn't know. I was merely commenting that the Lysol & DE might be closer to what that company were selling. I can see why you didn't want to buy that product. As with most of that companies products, it seems to be very over priced for what it is. Like this product, http://www.dermisil.com/products/Fossil-Shell-Dust-16oz-Package.htmlAppears to be just an expensive way of selling DE. if one compares with http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=diatomaceous+earth+food+grade & oe=utf-8 & client=firefox-a & cid=16600082892265208242#p Best wishesKrysOn 31 May 2011 12:16, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote: Perhaps. However the Benzalkonium chloride, also known as alkyldimethylbenzylammonium chloride, has three main categories of use; as a biocide, a cationic surfactant and phase transfer agent in the chemical industry. Chlorine dioxide is used in many industrial water treatment applications as a biocide including cooling towers, process water and food processing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactericide > > > > > > > The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding > > spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the active > > ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed > > fossil shell dust. > > http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.html > > http://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/ > > So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to the > > same? Both are disinfectants. > > > > > > > > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods > Seventy years ago. > Weather and rain have undone it again, > And now you would never know > There was once a road through the woods > Before they planted the trees. > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > And the thin anemones. > Only the keeper sees > That, where the ring-dove broods, > And the badgers roll at ease, > There was once a road through the woods. > > Yet, if you enter the woods > Of a summer evening late, > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > Where the otter whistles his mate. > (They fear not men in the woods, > Because they see so few) > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > Steadily cantering through > The misty solitudes, > As though they perfectly knew > The old lost road through the woods…. > But there is no road through the woods. > * > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 MMS may be great & it sounds like many people are having a lot of success. However, it appears very apparent that these articles are from websites of people trying to sell something. They seem to use facts to imply something that is not the case. Bleach, by definition is something which whitens, lightens or purifies. Household bleach is usually sodium hyperchlorite, but this is not the bleach generally used in water treatment. The bleaching agents most commonly used in treatment of water for human consumption are chlorine dioxide, chloramine or ozone. KrysOn 31 May 2011 12:22, healinghope <mfrreman@...> wrote: A common misconception that many people have when learning about MMS is thinking that miracle mineral solution is the same as household bleach. While MMS and household bleach do have some things in common, they are also very different. This article explains the similarities and differences between MMS and common bleach. Like sodium chlorite, bleach is made up of sodium, chlorine, and oxygen molecules. Bleach is found in many everyday household cleaning products, including laundry detergents, soaps, and bathroom cleaners. The biggest advantage that bleach has over MMS is that it is ready to use as sold. When you need to use bleach, you simply open the bottle and use it. There is no mixing or waiting for a chemical reaction to take place. MMS requires mixing two ingredients together to create chlorine dioxide gas, and requires a few minutes of wait time for the reaction to occur. In this regard, bleach is much more appealing because it is much simpler to use. Another advantage that bleach has over miracle mineral products is its availability. Because bleach is such a common household item, it can be found many places. Bleach can be found in supermarkets, pharmacies, and even convenience stores. Because it is new to the market and not nearly as understood or accepted as bleach, miracle mineral solution does not have the kind of popular reach that bleach does. Of course, the fact that something is popular does not necessarily mean that it is the most sensible. In many cases, this is true with bleach. MMS, while not an exact replacement for bleach, can effectively replace bleach for many purposes, while offering important advantages that bleach does not. As you probably know, virtually all of America's municipal tap water is chlorinated. This means that water districts add small amounts of bleach into the public water supply before it is pumped out to the districts they serve. Chlorine levels are different around the country, and if you have traveled to a number of places around the country you may have noticed a difference in the level of chlorine that you tasted in the water. The jury is still out on how unhealthy chlorinated water is for the human population. We have our opinions here at GetMMS and we're sure you do too. The important thing to note about chlorinated water is that it creates toxins – not directly in your body, but in the water itself. When a molecule of bleach interacts with an organic substance, a chemical reaction takes place that creates a trihalomethane. Trihalomethanes are carcinogens (cancer-causing compounds) that are used in industrial work for solvents and refrigerants. Organic substances include almost any carbon-based material. Chlorine bleach is added to municipal water supplies because it reduces the possibility of diseases spreading through the water. For the most part, it does a good job at keeping these risks low – but this comes at a price, and the price is the formation of trihalomethanes in the water supply. Fortunately, water districts around the country are slowly figuring out that bleach is not the best way to achieve their goals of minimizing contamination in the water supply, and are switching over to using sodium chlorate or sodium chlorite (MMS!) to purify their water. This, we think, is a step in the right direction. Imagine yourself using bleach around the house. You might use it in the bathroom to brighten tiles or clean the sink. You might use it in the kitchen to disinfect a cutting board. Now imagine how many times the bleach you are using has interacted with an organic substance. It might be bits of food in the kitchen. It might be the cutting board itself, if it is made of wood. It might be the paper towel you use to clean with. Whenever he bleach you are using contacts these organic substances, cancer-causing trihalomethanes are produced. We are happy to say that miracle mineral supplement does not produce trihalomethanes when interacting with organic material. MMS can be used as a bleach replacement for disinfecting without creating any toxic byproducts. For more information on using MMS as a bleach alternative, see our comprehensive report on ways you can use MSS in your home. http://www.squidoo.com/getmms > > > > > > > > > > > The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding > > > spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the active > > > ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed > > > fossil shell dust. > > > http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.html > > > http://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/ > > > So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to the > > > same? Both are disinfectants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > They shut the road through the woods > > Seventy years ago. > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > And now you would never know > > There was once a road through the woods > > Before they planted the trees. > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > And the thin anemones. > > Only the keeper sees > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > Of a summer evening late, > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > Because they see so few) > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > Steadily cantering through > > The misty solitudes, > > As though they perfectly knew > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > But there is no road through the woods. > > * > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Kyrs Yes it is very expensive. I was just sharing some info, thats all. Please keep up the good work I always read your post:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Benzarid Environmental Spray is used on mattresses and other hiding > > > > spots to exterminate bed bugs. This bed bug spray consists of the > > active > > > > ingredient benzalkonium chloride which is a mild chemical, and crushed > > > > fossil shell dust. > > > > http://www.dermisil.com/products/BenzaRid-Spray-1-Gallon.html > > > > http://topbedbugproducts.wordpress.com/ > > > > So this made me wonder if a MMS sprayer with DE added would be close to > > the > > > > same? Both are disinfectants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > Seventy years ago. > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > And now you would never know > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > And the thin anemones. > > > Only the keeper sees > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > Because they see so few) > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > Steadily cantering through > > > The misty solitudes, > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > * > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods > Seventy years ago. > Weather and rain have undone it again, > And now you would never know > There was once a road through the woods > Before they planted the trees. > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > And the thin anemones. > Only the keeper sees > That, where the ring-dove broods, > And the badgers roll at ease, > There was once a road through the woods. > > Yet, if you enter the woods > Of a summer evening late, > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > Where the otter whistles his mate. > (They fear not men in the woods, > Because they see so few) > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > Steadily cantering through > The misty solitudes, > As though they perfectly knew > The old lost road through the woods…. > But there is no road through the woods. > * > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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