Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

[Guest guest]

Hi Ceilia,I hope you have not had any more lesions. Maybe they were something else? I have my fingers crossed for you. And as you say, babies can have lesions are frequent on babies & could be nothing.I don't know how the Swedish health system works. In UK one can ask ones GP for a specific test & , if he/she thinks one has good reason, they will arrange it. However, from what I've seen, if one does not sound clear, consise & confident, or perhaps, do not ask for precisely what one wants or gets emotional (like my mother) one does not get treated so well. For a more comprehensive test, I'd find out the test you want done, why you want it done, what you suspect they might find & why you think they might find it.  Then go armed with information. If possible take papers from peer reviwed scientific journals to back up what you say  so they cannot say " that doesn't happen " . Just an idea.

I don't know what allergy tests are normally used. Back in Indiana my partner had one of those skin tests; the blood test is different. I am guessing that quick kit type blood tests which test for certain known antibodies may be the most frequent but that is not quite the same.

According to Wikipedia the tests on specific IgE were invented & first marketed in Sweden, by Pharmacia Diagnostics AB. On Wikipedia I read the most up to date of these tests is called the ImmunoCAP Specific IgE 0-100. I don't know enough about the subject to say what it can detect in the way of parasites (a parasitologist or lab ought to be able to tell you), I've read they can use it to detect worms & some protozoa as well as allergens.

Good luckKrysOn 3 June 2011 06:25, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

 

HI, Krys!

I had stool tests taken for common parasites, that showed nothing. That was to a " normal " swedish lab. I haven´t had the blood works for that though. Maby I could try to get it, but the doctors here won´t cooperate probably.

Is a normal allergy test the same as the IgE you are talking about?

Is the Frys lab maby the only who can detect the new protozoa that is mentioned?

You seem to have  lot of knowledge and are so good to find articles etc about everything here. THanks for that!Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites

Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:39:06 PMSubject: Re: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

 

I should think it would be cheaper to send to labs in Sweden or elsewhere in Europe.I think protozoa of the digestive system would be diagnosed by faecal examination, but protozoan infection of blood & tissues would be diagnosed by blood exminantion, perhaps an antibody test?

I'd guess that one couldn't detect external blood sucking mites from a test for antibodies, perhaps unless one had an allergic reaction to the bites. But that is jut a guess, I don't know enough about it, but it is the immunoglobulin E (IgE) which reacts to allergins & internal worms etc.

Best wishesKrys

On 2 June 2011 09:51, pcs_highroller <pshannon9@...> wrote:

 

 Hi CeceliaI would be surprised if you couldn't get labs ordered from abroad. But would be best to call Fry Labs first, just to make sure:

Fry Laboratories, L.L.C. 15720 N. Greenway Hayden LoopSuite #3sdale, AZ 85260

Toll Free: 1.866.927.8075Phone: 480.292.8560Billing Phone: 480.292.8457Fax: 480.656.4932

Office Hours: Monday-Friday 8AM-5PMAs I was telling , while no, they can't identify this organism because I believe it is one they have not seen before, therefore not a 'categorized' species yet. Metametrix lab said they tested my organisms against 123 currently known parasitic/ protozoa infections and this one had a slightly different genome or genetic makeup, but similar DNA to the protozoan infections we already know of.  [btw, think I said before that this is a comprehensive stool analysis] They match up as many genes as possible to existing known pathogens and this is how they can tell what kind of organism your pathogen is. 

As far as fry labs, I am not sure if this blood borne protozoa would be the same as the one found in the stool-just don't know. Seems I remember Dr. Fry saying that low dose antibiotics and I think he mentioned clindamycin, which is one I have had good luck with in the past; but have

been hesitant to continue doing this on my own due to the C. Difficile that can become pathogenic after taking clindamycin long term. Feel for this one, we would be safer under a physician's care. IMO, I think knowing is better than not, just because you can then show other physicians that something is going on here; then perhaps be able to work with a physician on this more diligently than I did. And I also would still want to know if I had a protozoan infection or not, because I think the protocol would be slightly different than say, for just lyme or morgellons. I was initially given Alinia for this protozoan infection, but then was not followed up for subsequent testing. I just kept on treating morgellons and thought this protozoa was taken care of...not smart but I also didn't get help from the medical community. I suspect this protozoa is what is causing havoc within my system, but it could be other things as well...but have a hunch that

the protozoa and biofilm just continued to multiply unchecked and gradually over time, caused me to get very ill, blocking intestinal uptake of nutrients so that I am down to 104 llbs.  So I plan on doing that metametrix test again and hopefully the one from Fry labs too [$$$ brace yourself---some 500 dollars for metametrix comprehensive stool testing and I don't know how much Fry labs is.]

Hope this helpsLovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecilia,

I have had no problems today. I won't spray lysol on my body. Remember, mine was 1 cup to a very large bath. The vinegar is doing wonderful things and is probably what you want to spray on your body. I know I got this fungus from the bird's nests, and Kry's showed us that exert from a pest control journal stating that fungus was normal in bird's nests. I bet the mites smell that and yell, "Home that a way boys!"

Love and light,

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm! I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

,I'm glad to hear you're winning. I do hope people don't take me too seriously. As I am used to doing scientific research, I hunt for scientific papers & academic sites then make assumptions ( & guesses) based on what I find there.

The blood protozoa with biofilm is interesting. I wish there was more info. I am assuming it is the protozoa itself, in this case, which is producing the biofilm???I am including something I found describing a few blood & tissue protozoa. Leishmaniasis looks nasty; I've seen a lot worse pics online. It is well known enough that doctors would be able to diagnose it. My grandfather had malaria, he picked it up in Burma during WW2, my mother used to talk of him sat in front of the fire shivering.

I was reading about the bacteria which causes Legionaires' Disease, living in protozoan hosts which themselves live in biofilms in water systems. All the bestKrysOn 3 June 2011 09:24, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

 

Krys, you brought me much relief with your information.  I'd rather it be a fungus cause I am winning:)  Under the scope, I have seen the mycelium, spores, and a beautiful example of a hyphae.  You are a gem!

Love and light,

 

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites

Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood 

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne!  I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief.  Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

 

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now.  Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...

Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….

But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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protozoan parasites.pdf

[Guest guest]

I found this site a few days ago, during a search.  I think it has some interesting info & photos, some of which are protozoa.http://classes.midlandstech.edu/carterp/Courses/bio225/chap25/lecture5.htm

Best wishesKrysOn 3 June 2011 17:26, Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...> wrote:

,I'm glad to hear you're winning. I do hope people don't take me too seriously. As I am used to doing scientific research, I hunt for scientific papers & academic sites then make assumptions ( & guesses) based on what I find there.

The blood protozoa with biofilm is interesting. I wish there was more info. I am assuming it is the protozoa itself, in this case, which is producing the biofilm???I am including something I found describing a few blood & tissue protozoa. Leishmaniasis looks nasty; I've seen a lot worse pics online. It is well known enough that doctors would be able to diagnose it. My grandfather had malaria, he picked it up in Burma during WW2, my mother used to talk of him sat in front of the fire shivering.

I was reading about the bacteria which causes Legionaires' Disease, living in protozoan hosts which themselves live in biofilms in water systems. All the bestKrys

On 3 June 2011 09:24, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

 

Krys, you brought me much relief with your information.  I'd rather it be a fungus cause I am winning:)  Under the scope, I have seen the mycelium, spores, and a beautiful example of a hyphae.  You are a gem!

Love and light,

 

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites

Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood 

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne!  I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief.  Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

 

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now.  Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...

Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….

But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

This was interesting Krys. Thanks. Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...

Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….

But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

!I´m glad it was just one attack and that you´re fine today. Interesting with the fungus in birdsnests...I have bought white vinegar and am starting it. Good that you warned me about the lysolchemical on the body. Seems like the vinegar has been a winner to a couple of birdmiters here, so that is promising. It isn´t that expensive either. Do you delute the vinegar or just spray it right on?Take care!CeciliaFrom: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, June 3, 2011 10:56:41 PMSubject: Re: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecilia,

I have had no problems today. I won't spray lysol on my body. Remember, mine was 1 cup to a very large bath. The vinegar is doing wonderful things and is probably what you want to spray on your body. I know I got this fungus from the bird's nests, and Kry's showed us that exert from a pest control journal stating that fungus was normal in bird's nests. I bet the mites smell that and yell, "Home that a way boys!"

Love and light,

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm! I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

I added that site to my favorites. Thank you Krys!

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm! I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old

lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

I pour it full strenght on my wet hair, put a shower cap on and then spray my body with a 60-70% vinegar and the rest water. I blow dry my body 1/2 way, and leave cap on for 15 minutes then take off and blow dry. I then put on my anti-fungal cream.

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm! I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling