Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

June 1, 2011

I'm starting to see some connections with - well, if you have not read what happened to me (re biofilm) when I used a chitinase after my shower one night, you are welcome to check it out, especially if you DO know about protozoans, and see what you think is going on with what I wrote about. Scroll down to My Farm Theory. I'm sure I'm way off base, but SOMETHING happened...but what? It was a pretty surreal experience.kajayFrom: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 8:30:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Krys,

I keep wondering if it is a topical protozoa. No, I'm not sure - just suspect. I know it likes hair, and skin oil. It seems to like the sinusus- i think(that could be something else). I think the (webs, spreaders, whatever they are) that I role off my skin is caused by a protozoa. It does seem to thrive on oils. Before, if I ate anything with the slightest bit of oil, I'd notice an oil coating on my chin and lips. Within minutes, there would be spreaders. I can roll these off and drop what I get onto a napkin and see the role. Under the scope it looks like crystalized segments of string webbing off in different directions. A bath in olive leaf helps as I can rub my skin and find where the spreaders are and roll them off. They are hard to feel unless the body is really squeeky clean. I have to rub and rub an area before it will lift and sometimes

roll up 8 inches worth. I wonder if your mom can see if she has spreaders. It can get like quarter sized gel spots under the breasts.I have been doing my bath for a long time now and am now doing a diet that is as close to oil free and anit-fungal as I can get as well as the anti-fungal medicine on my skin. I am finding very little spreaders at all now where they covered my body at first. Those clear things, that always have the same shape, that turn brown when dying seemed to travel along these spreaders (or in process of making them). I can't find the site, but I remember reading that there is a protozoa-fungal creature that doxy will kill. I want to see this and see if it matches. I'll keep searching. I've told you what I've observed. Interpretations may be wrong, but where else can we start? I thought these observations might apply to your mother.

Love and light,

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm! I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

June 1, 2011

You have a great sense of humor Kajay. . Later I will comment about your farm theory. MaÃ±ana Sent from my iPodOn Jun 1, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

I'm starting to see some connections with - well, if you have not read what happened to me (re biofilm) when I used a chitinase after my shower one night, you are welcome to check it out, especially if you DO know about protozoans, and see what you think is going on with what I wrote about. Scroll down to My Farm Theory. I'm sure I'm way off base, but SOMETHING happened...but what? It was a pretty surreal experience.kajayFrom: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 8:30:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Krys,

I keep wondering if it is a topical protozoa. No, I'm not sure - just suspect. I know it likes hair, and skin oil. It seems to like the sinusus- i think(that could be something else). I think the (webs, spreaders, whatever they are) that I role off my skin is caused by a protozoa. It does seem to thrive on oils. Before, if I ate anything with the slightest bit of oil, I'd notice an oil coating on my chin and lips. Within minutes, there would be spreaders. I can roll these off and drop what I get onto a napkin and see the role. Under the scope it looks like crystalized segments of string webbing off in different directions. A bath in olive leaf helps as I can rub my skin and find where the spreaders are and roll them off. They are hard to feel unless the body is really squeeky clean. I have to rub and rub an area before it will lift and sometimes

roll up 8 inches worth. I wonder if your mom can see if she has spreaders. It can get like quarter sized gel spots under the breasts.I have been doing my bath for a long time now and am now doing a diet that is as close to oil free and anit-fungal as I can get as well as the anti-fungal medicine on my skin. I am finding very little spreaders at all now where they covered my body at first. Those clear things, that always have the same shape, that turn brown when dying seemed to travel along these spreaders (or in process of making them). I can't find the site, but I remember reading that there is a protozoa-fungal creature that doxy will kill. I want to see this and see if it matches. I'll keep searching. I've told you what I've observed. Interpretations may be wrong, but where else can we start? I thought these observations might apply to your mother.

Love and light,

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm! I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

June 1, 2011

THanks for info Krys!Do you think they can identify if you have a bloodsucking parasite in the tests? Could be good to know anyway.CFrom: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 2:01:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Fry labs finds a

protozoa in blood

Hi Cecilia,There are many species of protozoa a few of which are blood parasites; I am guessing this is a new, previously undiscovered, protozoa. If it is associated with biofilm it I'd guess it would probably be rather difficult to eradicate.

KrsOn 1 June 2011 04:22, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

HI, !Oh, so they canÂ´t identify the parasite?! They can only tell you if you have a parasite or not?

PRoblably would be hard to get someone to order lab from Frys...Did you use them?Cecilia

From: goldstein <Goldstein@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >

Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 3:42:21 AMSubject: Re: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi CeciliaI think a doctor has to order the lab work, but I don't know what good it would do anyway because they can't identify the parasite. If you get a doctor like I did and Patti & the doctor orders the test then some doctors might treat you. I wonder if any doctor in Sweden would order labs from Frys...

Sent from my iPodOn May 31, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Hi!THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites

Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry

labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...

Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

June 1, 2011

Hi !Thanks, havenÂ´t got a specific doctor anymore, because of the way I was treated. But IÂ´ll try to make an appointment with someone new again to see if they would agree on it.Take care!"CeciliaFrom: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011

12:21:52 AMSubject: Re: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi CeciliaNo, didn't use them and in fact didn't know about them. Patti told me about them. My doctor here used Metametrix... they seem to find the same thing. Ask your doctor if she might be able to order blood work to be sent to them... just out of curiosity when you see your doctor next. Re: Fry

labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm! I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

June 2, 2011

I do remember your story Kajay. It struck me at the time as I had those "gel" girls from time to time, and could roll gel spots off my body. The way they plaster themselves on the skin makes me think they are sucking food up out of the skin. I'm guessing they are after the fungus. Let's see who else posts on this.

Love and light,

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm! I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

June 2, 2011

I really like your website, Kajay. Very interesting and user friendly!

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm! I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

June 2, 2011

Hi CeceliaI would be surprised if you couldn't get labs ordered from abroad. But would be best to call Fry Labs first, just to make sure:Fry Laboratories, L.L.C. 15720 N. Greenway Hayden LoopSuite #3sdale, AZ 85260 Toll Free: 1.866.927.8075 Phone: 480.292.8560 Billing Phone: 480.292.8457 Fax: 480.656.4932 Office Hours: Monday-Friday 8AM-5PM As I was telling , while no, they can't identify this organism because I believe it is one they have not seen before, therefore not a 'categorized' species yet. Metametrix lab said they tested my organisms against 123 currently known parasitic/ protozoa infections and this one had a slightly different genome or genetic makeup, but similar DNA to the protozoan infections we already know of. [btw, think I said before that this is a comprehensive stool analysis] They match up as many genes as possible to existing known pathogens and this is how they can tell what kind of organism your pathogen is. As far as fry labs, I am not sure if this blood borne protozoa would be the same as the one found in the stool-just don't know. Seems I remember Dr. Fry saying that low dose antibiotics and I think he mentioned clindamycin, which is one I have had good luck with in the past; but have been hesitant to continue doing this on my own due to the C. Difficile that can become pathogenic after taking clindamycin long term. Feel for this one, we would be safer under a physician's care. IMO, I think knowing is better than not, just because you can then show other physicians that something is going on here; then perhaps be able to work with a physician on this more diligently than I did. And I also would still want to know if I had a protozoan infection or not, because I think the protocol would be slightly different than say, for just lyme or morgellons. I was initially given Alinia for this protozoan infection, but then was not followed up for subsequent testing. I just kept on treating morgellons and thought this protozoa was taken care of...not smart but I also didn't get help from the medical community. I suspect this protozoa is what is causing havoc within my system, but it could be other things as well...but have a hunch that the protozoa and biofilm just continued to multiply unchecked and gradually over time, caused me to get very ill, blocking intestinal uptake of nutrients so that I am down to 104 llbs. So I plan on doing that metametrix test again and hopefully the one from Fry labs too [$$$ brace yourself---some 500 dollars for metametrix comprehensive stool testing and I don't know how much Fry labs is.]Hope this helpsLovePdidit

June 2, 2011

Hello ,I really don't know, but I'd have thought, the known tropical protozoa would be identifiable from the blood test. It seems logical to me that many of these very strange symptoms would be caused by something new.

The way you describe whatever is on your skin, it sounds, to me, like you're describing what I'd guess to be mycelia of a non yeast fungus or perhaps the non yeast phase of one of the fungi which have both forms.. Seems some of these fungi are not properly understood because so far no-one has managed to get them to go through their life cycle under laboratory conditions; that'sabout all I know about them....which isn't much. Afaik, there are very few known protozoa which live on top of the skin; they are mostly in blood or digestive tract.

Best wishesKrys

On 1 June 2011 07:30, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Krys,

I keep wondering if it is a topical protozoa. No, I'm not sure - just suspect. I know it likes hair, and skin oil. It seems to like the sinusus- i think(that could be something else). I think the (webs, spreaders, whatever they are) that I role off my skin is caused by a protozoa. It does seem to thrive on oils. Before, if I ate anything with the slightest bit of oil, I'd notice an oil coating on my chin and lips. Within minutes, there would be spreaders. I can roll these off and drop what I get onto a napkin and see the role. Under the scope it looks like crystalized segments of string webbing off in different directions. A bath in olive leaf helps as I can rub my skin and find where the spreaders are and roll them off. They are hard to feel unless the body is really squeeky clean. I have to rub and rub an area before it will lift and sometimes

roll up 8 inches worth. I wonder if your mom can see if she has spreaders. It can get like quarter sized gel spots under the breasts.I have been doing my bath for a long time now and am now doing a diet that is as close to oil free and anit-fungal as I can get as well as the anti-fungal medicine on my skin. I am finding very little spreaders at all now where they covered my body at first. Those clear things, that always have the same shape, that turn brown when dying seemed to travel along these spreaders (or in process of making them). I can't find the site, but I remember reading that there is a protozoa-fungal creature that doxy will kill. I want to see this and see if it matches. I'll keep searching. I've told you what I've observed. Interpretations may be wrong, but where else can we start? I thought these observations might apply to your mother.

Love and light,

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites

Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...

Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

June 2, 2011

I should think it would be cheaper to send to labs in Sweden or elsewhere in Europe.I think protozoa of the digestive system would be diagnosed by faecal examination, but protozoan infection of blood & tissues would be diagnosed by blood exminantion, perhaps an antibody test?

I'd guess that one couldn't detect external blood sucking mites from a test for antibodies, perhaps unless one had an allergic reaction to the bites. But that is jut a guess, I don't know enough about it, but it is the immunoglobulin E (IgE) which reacts to allergins & internal worms etc.

Best wishesKrysOn 2 June 2011 09:51, pcs_highroller <pshannon9@...> wrote:

Hi CeceliaI would be surprised if you couldn't get labs ordered from abroad. But would be best to call Fry Labs first, just to make sure:Fry Laboratories, L.L.C. 15720 N. Greenway Hayden Loop

Suite #3sdale, AZ 85260 Toll Free: 1.866.927.8075 Phone: 480.292.8560 Billing Phone: 480.292.8457 Fax: 480.656.4932 Office Hours: Monday-Friday 8AM-5PM

As I was telling , while no, they can't identify this organism because I believe it is one they have not seen before, therefore not a 'categorized' species yet. Metametrix lab said they tested my organisms against 123 currently known parasitic/ protozoa infections and this one had a slightly different genome or genetic makeup, but similar DNA to the protozoan infections we already know of. [btw, think I said before that this is a comprehensive stool analysis] They match up as many genes as possible to existing known pathogens and this is how they can tell what kind of organism your pathogen is.

As far as fry labs, I am not sure if this blood borne protozoa would be the same as the one found in the stool-just don't know. Seems I remember Dr. Fry saying that low dose antibiotics and I think he mentioned clindamycin, which is one I have had good luck with in the past; but have been hesitant to continue doing this on my own due to the C. Difficile that can become pathogenic after taking clindamycin long term. Feel for this one, we would be safer under a physician's care.

IMO, I think knowing is better than not, just because you can then show other physicians that something is going on here; then perhaps be able to work with a physician on this more diligently than I did. And I also would still want to know if I had a protozoan infection or not, because I think the protocol would be slightly different than say, for just lyme or morgellons. I was initially given Alinia for this protozoan infection, but then was not followed up for subsequent testing. I just kept on treating morgellons and thought this protozoa was taken care of...not smart but I also didn't get help from the medical community. I suspect this protozoa is what is causing havoc within my system, but it could be other things as well...but have a hunch that the protozoa and biofilm just continued to multiply unchecked and gradually over time, caused me to get very ill, blocking intestinal uptake of nutrients so that I am down to 104 llbs. So I plan on doing that metametrix test again and hopefully the one from Fry labs too [$$$ brace yourself---some 500 dollars for metametrix comprehensive stool testing and I don't know how much Fry labs is.]

Hope this helpsLovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

June 2, 2011

Hi Kayjay,I'm probably being blind......I can't find where you wrote about your exprience in the shower. A coincidence your using also 109 in your name.All the bestKrys

On 1 June 2011 22:58, Kajay109 <kajay109@...> wrote:

I'm starting to see some connections with - well, if you have not read what happened to me (re biofilm) when I used a chitinase after my shower one night, you are welcome to check it out, especially if you DO know about protozoans, and see what you think is going on with what I wrote about. Scroll down to My Farm Theory. I'm sure I'm way off base, but SOMETHING happened...but what? It was a pretty surreal experience.

kajay

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites

Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 8:30:03 AMSubject: Re: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Krys,

I keep wondering if it is a topical protozoa. No, I'm not sure - just suspect. I know it likes hair, and skin oil. It seems to like the sinusus- i think(that could be something else). I think the (webs, spreaders, whatever they are) that I role off my skin is caused by a protozoa. It does seem to thrive on oils. Before, if I ate anything with the slightest bit of oil, I'd notice an oil coating on my chin and lips. Within minutes, there would be spreaders. I can roll these off and drop what I get onto a napkin and see the role. Under the scope it looks like crystalized segments of string webbing off in different directions. A bath in olive leaf helps as I can rub my skin and find where the spreaders are and roll them off. They are hard to feel unless the body is really squeeky clean. I have to rub and rub an area before it will lift and sometimes

roll up 8 inches worth. I wonder if your mom can see if she has spreaders. It can get like quarter sized gel spots under the breasts.I have been doing my bath for a long time now and am now doing a diet that is as close to oil free and anit-fungal as I can get as well as the anti-fungal medicine on my skin. I am finding very little spreaders at all now where they covered my body at first. Those clear things, that always have the same shape, that turn brown when dying seemed to travel along these spreaders (or in process of making them). I can't find the site, but I remember reading that there is a protozoa-fungal creature that doxy will kill. I want to see this and see if it matches. I'll keep searching. I've told you what I've observed. Interpretations may be wrong, but where else can we start? I thought these observations might apply to your mother.

Love and light,

Hi!

THank you so much for sharing. Do you think it is possible to get tests run even if you live abroad?

Take care!

Cecilia

From: S <pshannon9@...>bird mites

Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 4:47:17 PMSubject: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood

Hi Cecelia, Bill, , , Kajay and all! I was just talking with via email and found out that none of you had heard yet about the Fry labs talk radio show and/or that Dr. Fry had found a blood protozoan in some people's blood [morg/lyme patients]; he has found that this protozoa is carrying a biofilm!

I am thinking /hoping that this protozoan is perhaps the reason why nothing else had worked to rid this biofilm and insect infestation from me and therefore, my environment...so perhaps it will help those of you who are in the same boat..i.e tried everything and nothing worked to totally eradicate it; since from my experience, some things would work but not enough to get rid them totally from me and dismantle their reproduction cycle --and I believe some protozoa can be airborne! I have tried EVERYTHING, you name it and it would work for a while, then stop...with exception to lysol. I have tried dettol,

borax, botanicals etc., in my environment and on me and these helped initially, then failed to work for long term relief. Here is the info for all to share...please spread the word!

Below is the link to what Fry labs describes on their site about their discoveries and below that is also the link to the blog talk radio to hear Dr. Fry's interview. I found just the first part of this interview the most informative, since toward the end not many people who called in got their questions answered. He made it quite clear he would not treat or diagnose via a talk radio blog.

http://morgellonsfocusonhealth.com/fry_laboratories_llc

here is the audio--

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-protozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0

I think you have to get a doctor on board to order the tests for you...am in the process right now. Metametrix labs had found I had an intestinal protozoa and yeast of unknown origin back some 3 years ago, but maybe there are blood parasites of the same nature involved as well. Tis what I aim to find out. At least we all have something tangible to work with here...

Sounds like many of you are getting better regardless--great news!LovePdidit

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….

But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

June 2, 2011

Hi Krys,The problem is that specific labs do testing in a very specific way, some of which can be controversial. I know that Metametrix Lab, for example is a very unique lab. Perhaps Fry's is as well. Kaiser Permanente, a HMO in California where I have my primary insurance, has a terrible lab. They are only good for a certain things... I guess not all labs are created equally. I don't know about Europe though. This is true in the U.S. The fact is that Kaiser Permanente does not want to treat lots of serious illness so they don't diagnose when they should. I've seen this with my own healthcare and with other friends who have Kaiser health care. Sad, but true.L. Re: Re: Fry labs finds a protozoa in blood