Guest guest Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hi I took a borax bath in 1 cup per bath tub , soaked for 30 mins , rinsed & draied tub , then refilled & added 2 tbls coconut oil form the grocers next to the olive oil & all crawling stopped for 2 years now , iHad crawling for 3 years at leastt before that nite Praise God . Also baking soda puffed on surface stops all bugs & makes them go God bless you , Bill ps Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup per gallon detsroys this bug very well . 1 cup of it in the bath heals lesions fast On Mon May 23rd, 2011 3:24 PM EDT hate_mites2 wrote: >Hi Rob, >Glad to read some success stories now and then. It helps to motivate >others who have not had much luck. I am glad you were able to see the >mite that caused the problem for you, unfortunately some types of bird >mites, specifically D. Gallinae, are much harder to see. You species was >dark and large enough to view and most likely was the NFM variety. > >Regarding your questions: > * If the BL is air breathing how can it live in certain parts of >our bodies? Bird mites are body breathers through holes/vents in their >exoskeletan and can live long periods in water, etc. They do not stay >long internally, mainly at night and to lay eggs. Such as in the ears, >nostrils, etc. > * Are we all infested with the same bug? No, there are many >species of parasitic mites which bother humans, some still unidentified. > * If we all collected a sample on clear tape and write a >personal account could we not send it to every University, Gov health >department, WHO, Museum, etc???? This time of year in the US, I know the >CDC hears lots of complaints on this issue, however, because mites do >not typically spread pathogens and cause disease, this would not be >their area of interest. > * Why does it affect only us folk that do not have the funds to >eradicate it, do rich people get affected? It can sure seem like that, >but when I hosted birdmites.org I heard from people from all walks of >life who had to deal with this, including doctors, nurses, TV newshosts, >etc. One dermatologist from SA who was afflicted felt that his >colleagues were not fully educated on this issue and was in the process >of writing about his ordeal. > >Thanks again and continued success here, >Tim > > > > >> >> Hi, If this is of no help I apologise as after two years I am still a >little >> intimidated by this forum and not sure of the rules. >> >> >> >> I am still reading the group emails once a week and it's now over two >years >> since the " devils bugs " left me alone. I wrote this last year and have >added >> and changed it over the last year but thought it may be too long to >send. >> But I am sending it anyway. >> >> >> >> I was oblivious to any problem a simple pigeon's nest in a >neighbouring >> porch could cause. Standing in the beautiful sunshine with a clear >blue sky >> I was watching a workman clear the nest, I felt sorry for the young >pigeons >> perched on the roof with their home being destroyed and stuffed into >refuse >> bags. >> >> Visiting a friend a few days later she remarked on me scratching my >legs and >> arms which made her feel itchy. I could only say I had been bitten by >a >> mosquito in the night. Sitting at my PC which is in my bedroom corner >near a >> large box bay window overlooking the neighbours porch I could see tiny > " pin >> head size bugs " on my pc screen which I cleaned off with a tissue. The >> itching continued and the bites were now on my legs,arms,chest & >private >> area which seem to be while in bed but I was also feeling a crawling >> sensation all over my body. >> >> >> >> While sitting at my PC the next day I was Itching and felt a crawling >> sensation on my skin. Later that day my best friend was on her weekly >visit >> for a cup of good old " English Tea " and a chat and said she had >been bitten >> by something to which I said she must have a flea on her from her dog. >On >> her leaving I thought it strange and worrying that she had a small >bite >> similar to my ones and hastily found my watch makers magnifying lens >but >> could find no fleas on my sofa. On returning to my pc I could see a >few bugs >> on the screen and took a closer look with my lens, they looked like >tiny >> spider /bugs? Now I decided to check around the bedroom and was >horrified to >> find my desktop PC ,laptop,printers,speakers,window sill box, plant >pots >> cables,floor,walls,desk etc covered in tiny pin heads crawling around. >On >> checking my arm that I rest on my sill box I had them crawling in the >hairs >> and then found them on my chair. I sprayed everywhere with " Dettol " >> disinfectant and wiped them up with kitchen roll. Hours later they >were back >> and I was feeling that I must have an unhygienic home. >> >> >> >> I used clear tape to obtain a sample and drove to my local Maplin >store to >> buy a 100x hand microscope for £6.00 (10$ US?). On seeing them up >close I >> turned to the Internet for Identification and was amazed at the lack >of >> information on this simple tiny bug. Four days of internet later I >found >> them to be Bird mites/lice and that it is not easy to rid my home of >these >> nasty little often invisible to the eye bugs .On trailing through >site >> after site collecting information I decided to start my battle against >these >> EVIL little bugs. >> >> >> >> After many sleepless nights I decided it would be a war against evil. >I >> have been learning about positive thinking power and had signed up >with a >> life coach for a ten week course so decided that's the best starting >point >> for all challenges in life. Check out the power of positive thinking >on the >> internet and get your mind positive, not easy at first but it really >does >> help. >> >> >> >> First on the list was to visit my local " Pets at Home " mega store >which by >> luck the first person I spoke to didn't have a clue what I was on >about >> (negative) and thought the store could not help me, BUT he would just >ask >> someone outback if they know anything about bugs. A few minutes later >I was >> asked to describe the " bug " in detail, again he disappeared outback >and >> after 3 minutes the answer was that our mysterious man from " outback " >had >> completed a course on animal parasites and my " bugs " are Bird Lice >(mites) >> that probably entered my home in their thousands looking for a host >after >> the nest was removed. He directed me to the Livestock product area. >> >> >> >> I purchased the powder plus following which I had extracted from many >Ideas >> on the internet. >> >> >> >> Product List >> >> * " Livestock Louse Powder " covering Cattle to Poultry etc to small >> animals (IT WORKS) (UK manufacturer) >> >> * " Raid " Ant & Cockroach Killer by >> >> * 4 cans of " Arrid " Extra Dry ( Did not work for me) >> >> * " Maplin " 100x hand microscope (200x hand held would be better) >> >> * " Dettol " surface cleaner (It kills them or I think it may drown >> them) >> >> * Menthol crystals (Chemist) >> >> * " Vics " menthol rub >> >> * Zip up mattress bedbug cover >> >> * Latex gloves >> >> * Veruca socks >> >> * Lavender burning sticks >> >> * " Herbalife " Herbal Aloe products >> >> * Large Magnifying glass >> >> * Vacuum cleaner bags (lots) (Don't forget to seal the vacuum hose to >> stop BL crawling out) >> >> * Oh and life coaching if you can afford it to get that positive >> attitude! >> >> Some of the above may be UK only. >> >> >> >> >> >> What I have done >> >> >> >> >> >> Thinking this out I realised that the lice/mites which I call " BL " >were only >> present in my bedroom and mainly around my PC area so I wanted to >contain >> them by using the bedroom for sitting/sleeping as they need a host to >feed >> and may stay near to their host (ME) keeping them clear of other parts >of my >> apartment (yes I let them feed on me to keep them in one area but it >was a >> sacrifice worthwhile as they were already on my body) >> >> I had read that my car could become infested as could anyone I visited >so >> would need to have clothing clear of BL to wear after showering. I >showered, >> dressed and got out ASAP and have found this worked as I did not get >bitten >> while I was out. I use Herbal Aloe Everyday Shampoo and the >Conditioner as I >> find the Aloe products work for me. Using Herbal Aloe Gel after my >shower >> also works on bites and seems to keep them off of me when ready to go >out. >> >> >> >> First was to vacuum and clean EVERY SINGLE part of my apartment >including >> placing everything from shelves, ledges, floor and walls into air >tight bags >> (vacuum suction storage bags from the £1 shop) with a spray of Raid >Ant & >> Cockroach Killer in the bag before hand. Working my way to the bedroom >(try >> to do this in the same day if you have time) >> >> I keep reading that most people find BL on or near their PC, I ask >myself >> why? It must be to do with BL needing a host. >> >> Spray with raid and wipe off all pc/TV/phone cables and place in >clear bags >> to minimize re-infection while cleaning. I cleaned everything >thoroughly top >> bottom sides including nooks and crannies. My desk had BL all over as >did >> the window area and I found they get under ledges so I vacuumed walls, >> ceiling and floor. Working through the room to the bed I vacuumed >under the >> bed and all framework including the mattress (leave nothing to chance) >I >> then sprinkled Louse powder and rubbed it in to the floor, skirting >boards, >> window woodwork and into any cracks .I did not clean the powder from >the >> floor knowing that many BL would have to crawl onto it. After >reassembling >> everything I sprayed the Raid over everything but the bed. (Careful >not to >> soak electrics) Do the above as often as possible but only spray Raid >about >> every three days. Arrid just made a sticky mess of everything and did >> nothing to the BLs. >> >> >> >> * Wash bed sheets as often as possible. >> >> * I found that wearing the Veruca socks and Latex gloves with Vics >> smeared around the openings stopped the BL crawling on to my skin >while >> cleaning. >> >> * At night I burnt the Lavender sticks which I feel may have helped. >> >> >> * I put the Menthol crystals in hot water in my bedroom and feel this >> may also help as my children did not get bites. >> >> * Don't leave the vacuum cleaner standing without spraying some Raid >> down the pipe while turned on and sealing the opening with tape when >not in >> use. >> >> * Check everything regularly with Magnifying glass and hand microscope >> using clear tape to trap some mites. >> >> * Breathing in any spray products are a serious health hazard so I >> recommend a mask. >> >> * Guys, cut your head hair as short as work/social life allows. Shaved >> head is best. ( girls may look a little odd with no hair) >> >> * Be extra careful not to contaminate other parts of your home even >> walking around could spread them. >> >> >> >> I found in the first few days that the only thing that started dieing >was >> one of my house plants but then I was seeing less of the BL but be >aware >> that the young ones may hatch out within a week or so as far as I can >tell. >> Keep doing the above until you see results. >> >> As for being bitten at night I found certain things do work. >> >> On testing an Idea for the constant crawling feeling while attempting >to >> sleep I kept several cuts of clear tape by my bed which I used on my >face >> through the nights only to find that tiny loose hairs were all I could >see >> under the microscope. I did pull BL off of my body with the tape. >> >> My doctor had told me a few years back to use Extra Virgin Olive Oil >in my >> ears at night to loosen wax so I was going to try leaving the residue >oil >> in my ears to stop or catch the BL but never got round to trying it. >> >> >> >> At one time I thought they were gone but found them on and under a >large pot >> plant which on using the Raid killed them on contact. My 11 year old >found >> two at the weekend and I have found one live in four days and then a >few >> dead ones. I will keep the war going until I find none for a few >weeks. >> >> I have found some spiders around my pc area which may be eating the BL >but >> without a lab to test this I can't be sure so rather than catching the >> spiders I am leaving them for now (not happy with spiders in my >bedroom) >> >> >> >> After two weeks my 11 year old has one bite but I can only find dead >BL >> still. At one month I have realized that my face has become very >sensitive >> to even a hair or speck. I decided to use clear tape on my face to >capture >> anything that remotely feels crawly or itchy but after a week of >sticking >> tape to a white paper sheet and using the microscope I only found >black/blue >> fibres. I phoned a friend who I have not had contact with or knows of >my >> problem and asked her to stick a piece of tape on her face and see >what was >> on it, she was shocked to find black particles and black/blue, red and >some >> yellow flat looking fibres on her face. I can only think that the >fibres >> must be from clothing sticking to the face over the course of the day. >(I >> have asked other friends to check their faces with tape and all get >similar >> results) >> >> >> >> It's now 4 months since it all started and the BL seem to have >gone but I >> will carry on checking and using my methods until I feel safe. I have >> observed myself in my home and found that the only place I feel >crawling is >> near my PC and on walking to another room the sensation goes away. I >believe >> that I have been left with the psychological crawling sensation which >I will >> now deal with. >> >> >> >> Well that was probably very long and boring for you but if it helps >just one >> person I'm happy. My worry was my kids being bitten or carrying them >back to >> their mother's home but my showering, dressing and Aloe product >strategy >> seems to have worked for them. The car is clear and our UK freezing >winters >> would kill them anyway. My plant has seen better days but may pull >through. >> I'm told that with fast breading insects and animals that they can >quickly >> become immune to products from the natural process of evolution so I >hope >> that the above products can take them out before they evolve. >> >> I have now had some full nights of sleep but find it hard not to wake >up >> through the night to check around. The crawling sensation has got less >but I >> know much of it is psychological. The biting has at last stopped. >> >> >> >> The Bird Mite/Lice are ruining people's lives and I felt >completely lost and >> alone at night, desolate, abandoned and wanting to give up but >positive >> thinking kept me going. Don't just hope but do, they can be beaten >there is >> always a way if you are persistent. >> >> >> >> I read that satin clothing helped as BL like Cotton. I found that >Satin is >> basically 100% Polyester so my friend (female) bough two pair of >ladies >> 100%polyester leggings for me which were tight fitting, that stopped >the >> biting on my legs, butt and privates altogether (the legging must be >close >> woven which I checked with my magnifying glass before purchase) Men's >satin >> underwear and nightclothes are available but are loose fitting so not >a >> great option. I looked stupid but hey whatever it takes and to be >honest >> when I was younger and used to go sea fishing in mid winter and my >wife >> use to give me her tights (hose) to keep me warm under my thermals >and >> waterproofs so no big deal. >> >> >> >> Vics menthol vapour rub seems to stop the BL from crawling up >furniture legs >> but I think they may get on the ceiling and drop onto the body ( >vacuum >> ceiling thoroughly) >> >> >> >> Also eat good nutritious food and keep your body in shape for the >fight! >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Some questions I don't understand. >> >> >> >> * If the BL is air breathing how can it live in certain parts of our >> bodies? >> >> * Are we all infested with the same bug? >> >> * If we all collected a sample on clear tape and write a personal >> account could we not send it to every University, Gov health >department, >> WHO, Museum, etc???? >> >> * Why does it affect only us folk that do not have the funds to >> eradicate it, do rich people get affected? >> >> * Why have we not got the World Health Organization looking into this? >> >> May 10 2011. I still have crawling sensations and use clear tape but >only >> find fibres and no bites. I have analyzed fibres in dust from my TV >and PC >> screen and many other things and they appear to be the same as found >on my >> face. Oh, and no I don't wear the leggings any more LOL. I would say >you >> should think of any ideas outside the box that may sound odd or stupid >but >> try them anyway. >> >> >> >> I'm a male, now 61, I split with my 32 year old second wife (not my >doing) >> in 2006 and have two boys now 15 & 13 who stay with me every >weekend. I >> live about 6 miles from London, England just in the suburbs. I have a >> daughter 39 and son 36 and 6 grandchildren (2 years to 15 years old). >My 36 >> year old son is now a life coach and his biggest help for me was >teaching me >> about persistence in life. >> >> >> >> The above worked for me but I can not be responsible for any misuse of >> products that may have an adverse affect to human, animal or plant >life. >> READ THE LABEL FIRST and decide for yourself. >> >> Thoroughly wash your hands before eating, smoking, drinking or >touching your >> mouth, nose, eyes, ears or private parts. >> >> >> >> I will try to answer any questions. >> >> >> >> Regards Rob >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------\ >---- >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------\ >---- >> ------------------------------------------------- >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Did you get any burning when you did this - I tried it once and my whole body turned red and swollen for two day, especially my legs. From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 11:37:16 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mites Eradicated...thanks for sharing! Hi I took a borax bath in 1 cup per bath tub , soaked for 30 mins , rinsed & draied tub , then refilled & added 2 tbls coconut oil form the grocers next to the olive oil & all crawling stopped for 2 years now , iHad crawling for 3 years at leastt before that nite Praise God . Also baking soda puffed on surface stops all bugs & makes them go God bless you , Billps Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup per gallon detsroys this bug very well . 1 cup of it in the bath heals lesions fastOn Mon May 23rd, 2011 3:24 PM EDT hate_mites2 wrote:>Hi Rob,>Glad to read some success stories now and then. It helps to motivate>others who have not had much luck. I am glad you were able to see the>mite that caused the problem for you, unfortunately some types of bird>mites, specifically D. Gallinae, are much harder to see. You species was>dark and large enough to view and most likely was the NFM variety.>>Regarding your questions:> * If the BL is air breathing how can it live in certain parts of>our bodies? Bird mites are body breathers through holes/vents in their>exoskeletan and can live long periods in water, etc. They do not stay>long internally, mainly at night and to lay eggs. Such as in the ears,>nostrils, etc.> * Are we all infested with the same bug? No, there are many>species of parasitic mites which bother humans, some still unidentified.> * If we all collected a sample on clear tape and write a>personal account could we not send it to every University, Gov health>department, WHO, Museum, etc???? This time of year in the US, I know the>CDC hears lots of complaints on this issue, however, because mites do>not typically spread pathogens and cause disease, this would not be>their area of interest.> * Why does it affect only us folk that do not have the funds to>eradicate it, do rich people get affected? It can sure seem like that,>but when I hosted birdmites.org I heard from people from all walks of>life who had to deal with this, including doctors, nurses, TV newshosts,>etc. One dermatologist from SA who was afflicted felt that his>colleagues were not fully educated on this issue and was in the process>of writing about his ordeal.>>Thanks again and continued success here,>Tim>>>>>>>> Hi, If this is of no help I apologise as after two years I am still a>little>> intimidated by this forum and not sure of the rules.>>>>>>>> I am still reading the group emails once a week and it's now over two>years>> since the "devils bugs" left me alone. I wrote this last year and have>added>> and changed it over the last year but thought it may be too long to>send.>> But I am sending it anyway.>>>>>>>> I was oblivious to any problem a simple pigeon's nest in a>neighbouring>> porch could cause. Standing in the beautiful sunshine with a clear>blue sky>> I was watching a workman clear the nest, I felt sorry for the young>pigeons>> perched on the roof with their home being destroyed and stuffed into>refuse>> bags.>>>> Visiting a friend a few days later she remarked on me scratching my>legs and>> arms which made her feel itchy. I could only say I had been bitten by>a>> mosquito in the night. Sitting at my PC which is in my bedroom corner>near a>> large box bay window overlooking the neighbours porch I could see tiny>"pin>> head size bugs" on my pc screen which I cleaned off with a tissue. The>> itching continued and the bites were now on my legs,arms,chest & >private>> area which seem to be while in bed but I was also feeling a crawling>> sensation all over my body.>>>>>>>> While sitting at my PC the next day I was Itching and felt a crawling>> sensation on my skin. Later that day my best friend was on her weekly>visit>> for a cup of good old "English Tea" and a chat and said she had>been bitten>> by something to which I said she must have a flea on her from her dog.>On>> her leaving I thought it strange and worrying that she had a small>bite>> similar to my ones and hastily found my watch makers magnifying lens>but>> could find no fleas on my sofa. On returning to my pc I could see a>few bugs>> on the screen and took a closer look with my lens, they looked like>tiny>> spider /bugs? Now I decided to check around the bedroom and was>horrified to>> find my desktop PC ,laptop,printers,speakers,window sill box, plant>pots>> cables,floor,walls,desk etc covered in tiny pin heads crawling around.>On>> checking my arm that I rest on my sill box I had them crawling in the>hairs>> and then found them on my chair. I sprayed everywhere with "Dettol">> disinfectant and wiped them up with kitchen roll. Hours later they>were back>> and I was feeling that I must have an unhygienic home.>>>>>>>> I used clear tape to obtain a sample and drove to my local Maplin>store to>> buy a 100x hand microscope for £6.00 (10$ US?). On seeing them up>close I>> turned to the Internet for Identification and was amazed at the lack>of>> information on this simple tiny bug. Four days of internet later I>found>> them to be Bird mites/lice and that it is not easy to rid my home of>these>> nasty little often invisible to the eye bugs .On trailing through>site>> after site collecting information I decided to start my battle against>these>> EVIL little bugs.>>>>>>>> After many sleepless nights I decided it would be a war against evil.>I>> have been learning about positive thinking power and had signed up>with a>> life coach for a ten week course so decided that's the best starting>point>> for all challenges in life. Check out the power of positive thinking>on the>> internet and get your mind positive, not easy at first but it really>does>> help.>>>>>>>> First on the list was to visit my local "Pets at Home" mega store>which by>> luck the first person I spoke to didn't have a clue what I was on>about>> (negative) and thought the store could not help me, BUT he would just>ask>> someone outback if they know anything about bugs. A few minutes later>I was>> asked to describe the "bug" in detail, again he disappeared outback>and>> after 3 minutes the answer was that our mysterious man from "outback">had>> completed a course on animal parasites and my "bugs" are Bird Lice>(mites)>> that probably entered my home in their thousands looking for a host>after>> the nest was removed. He directed me to the Livestock product area.>>>>>>>> I purchased the powder plus following which I had extracted from many>Ideas>> on the internet.>>>>>>>> Product List>>>> * "Livestock Louse Powder" covering Cattle to Poultry etc to small>> animals (IT WORKS) (UK manufacturer)>>>> * "Raid" Ant & Cockroach Killer by >>>> * 4 cans of "Arrid" Extra Dry ( Did not work for me)>>>> * "Maplin" 100x hand microscope (200x hand held would be better)>>>> * "Dettol" surface cleaner (It kills them or I think it may drown>> them)>>>> * Menthol crystals (Chemist)>>>> * "Vics" menthol rub>>>> * Zip up mattress bedbug cover>>>> * Latex gloves>>>> * Veruca socks>>>> * Lavender burning sticks>>>> * "Herbalife" Herbal Aloe products>>>> * Large Magnifying glass>>>> * Vacuum cleaner bags (lots) (Don't forget to seal the vacuum hose to>> stop BL crawling out)>>>> * Oh and life coaching if you can afford it to get that positive>> attitude!>>>> Some of the above may be UK only.>>>>>>>>>>>> What I have done>>>>>>>>>>>> Thinking this out I realised that the lice/mites which I call "BL">were only>> present in my bedroom and mainly around my PC area so I wanted to>contain>> them by using the bedroom for sitting/sleeping as they need a host to>feed>> and may stay near to their host (ME) keeping them clear of other parts>of my>> apartment (yes I let them feed on me to keep them in one area but it>was a>> sacrifice worthwhile as they were already on my body)>>>> I had read that my car could become infested as could anyone I visited>so>> would need to have clothing clear of BL to wear after showering. I>showered,>> dressed and got out ASAP and have found this worked as I did not get>bitten>> while I was out. I use Herbal Aloe Everyday Shampoo and the>Conditioner as I>> find the Aloe products work for me. Using Herbal Aloe Gel after my>shower>> also works on bites and seems to keep them off of me when ready to go>out.>>>>>>>> First was to vacuum and clean EVERY SINGLE part of my apartment>including>> placing everything from shelves, ledges, floor and walls into air>tight bags>> (vacuum suction storage bags from the £1 shop) with a spray of Raid>Ant & >> Cockroach Killer in the bag before hand. Working my way to the bedroom>(try>> to do this in the same day if you have time)>>>> I keep reading that most people find BL on or near their PC, I ask>myself>> why? It must be to do with BL needing a host.>>>> Spray with raid and wipe off all pc/TV/phone cables and place in>clear bags>> to minimize re-infection while cleaning. I cleaned everything>thoroughly top>> bottom sides including nooks and crannies. My desk had BL all over as>did>> the window area and I found they get under ledges so I vacuumed walls,>> ceiling and floor. Working through the room to the bed I vacuumed>under the>> bed and all framework including the mattress (leave nothing to chance)>I>> then sprinkled Louse powder and rubbed it in to the floor, skirting>boards,>> window woodwork and into any cracks .I did not clean the powder from>the>> floor knowing that many BL would have to crawl onto it. After>reassembling>> everything I sprayed the Raid over everything but the bed. (Careful>not to>> soak electrics) Do the above as often as possible but only spray Raid>about>> every three days. Arrid just made a sticky mess of everything and did>> nothing to the BLs.>>>>>>>> * Wash bed sheets as often as possible.>>>> * I found that wearing the Veruca socks and Latex gloves with Vics>> smeared around the openings stopped the BL crawling on to my skin>while>> cleaning.>>>> * At night I burnt the Lavender sticks which I feel may have helped.>>>>>> * I put the Menthol crystals in hot water in my bedroom and feel this>> may also help as my children did not get bites.>>>> * Don't leave the vacuum cleaner standing without spraying some Raid>> down the pipe while turned on and sealing the opening with tape when>not in>> use.>>>> * Check everything regularly with Magnifying glass and hand microscope>> using clear tape to trap some mites.>>>> * Breathing in any spray products are a serious health hazard so I>> recommend a mask.>>>> * Guys, cut your head hair as short as work/social life allows. Shaved>> head is best. ( girls may look a little odd with no hair)>>>> * Be extra careful not to contaminate other parts of your home even>> walking around could spread them.>>>>>>>> I found in the first few days that the only thing that started dieing>was>> one of my house plants but then I was seeing less of the BL but be>aware>> that the young ones may hatch out within a week or so as far as I can>tell.>> Keep doing the above until you see results.>>>> As for being bitten at night I found certain things do work.>>>> On testing an Idea for the constant crawling feeling while attempting>to>> sleep I kept several cuts of clear tape by my bed which I used on my>face>> through the nights only to find that tiny loose hairs were all I could>see>> under the microscope. I did pull BL off of my body with the tape.>>>> My doctor had told me a few years back to use Extra Virgin Olive Oil>in my>> ears at night to loosen wax so I was going to try leaving the residue>oil>> in my ears to stop or catch the BL but never got round to trying it.>>>>>>>> At one time I thought they were gone but found them on and under a>large pot>> plant which on using the Raid killed them on contact. My 11 year old>found>> two at the weekend and I have found one live in four days and then a>few>> dead ones. I will keep the war going until I find none for a few>weeks.>>>> I have found some spiders around my pc area which may be eating the BL>but>> without a lab to test this I can't be sure so rather than catching the>> spiders I am leaving them for now (not happy with spiders in my>bedroom)>>>>>>>> After two weeks my 11 year old has one bite but I can only find dead>BL>> still. At one month I have realized that my face has become very>sensitive>> to even a hair or speck. I decided to use clear tape on my face to>capture>> anything that remotely feels crawly or itchy but after a week of>sticking>> tape to a white paper sheet and using the microscope I only found>black/blue>> fibres. I phoned a friend who I have not had contact with or knows of>my>> problem and asked her to stick a piece of tape on her face and see>what was>> on it, she was shocked to find black particles and black/blue, red and>some>> yellow flat looking fibres on her face. I can only think that the>fibres>> must be from clothing sticking to the face over the course of the day.>(I>> have asked other friends to check their faces with tape and all get>similar>> results)>>>>>>>> It's now 4 months since it all started and the BL seem to have>gone but I>> will carry on checking and using my methods until I feel safe. I have>> observed myself in my home and found that the only place I feel>crawling is>> near my PC and on walking to another room the sensation goes away. I>believe>> that I have been left with the psychological crawling sensation which>I will>> now deal with.>>>>>>>> Well that was probably very long and boring for you but if it helps>just one>> person I'm happy. My worry was my kids being bitten or carrying them>back to>> their mother's home but my showering, dressing and Aloe product>strategy>> seems to have worked for them. The car is clear and our UK freezing>winters>> would kill them anyway. My plant has seen better days but may pull>through.>> I'm told that with fast breading insects and animals that they can>quickly>> become immune to products from the natural process of evolution so I>hope>> that the above products can take them out before they evolve.>>>> I have now had some full nights of sleep but find it hard not to wake>up>> through the night to check around. The crawling sensation has got less>but I>> know much of it is psychological. The biting has at last stopped.>>>>>>>> The Bird Mite/Lice are ruining people's lives and I felt>completely lost and>> alone at night, desolate, abandoned and wanting to give up but>positive>> thinking kept me going. Don't just hope but do, they can be beaten>there is>> always a way if you are persistent.>>>>>>>> I read that satin clothing helped as BL like Cotton. I found that>Satin is>> basically 100% Polyester so my friend (female) bough two pair of>ladies>> 100%polyester leggings for me which were tight fitting, that stopped>the>> biting on my legs, butt and privates altogether (the legging must be>close>> woven which I checked with my magnifying glass before purchase) Men's>satin>> underwear and nightclothes are available but are loose fitting so not>a>> great option. I looked stupid but hey whatever it takes and to be>honest>> when I was younger and used to go sea fishing in mid winter and my>wife>> use to give me her tights (hose) to keep me warm under my thermals>and>> waterproofs so no big deal.>>>>>>>> Vics menthol vapour rub seems to stop the BL from crawling up>furniture legs>> but I think they may get on the ceiling and drop onto the body (>vacuum>> ceiling thoroughly)>>>>>>>> Also eat good nutritious food and keep your body in shape for the>fight!>>>> _________________________________________________________>>>>>>>> Some questions I don't understand.>>>>>>>> * If the BL is air breathing how can it live in certain parts of our>> bodies?>>>> * Are we all infested with the same bug?>>>> * If we all collected a sample on clear tape and write a personal>> account could we not send it to every University, Gov health>department,>> WHO, Museum, etc????>>>> * Why does it affect only us folk that do not have the funds to>> eradicate it, do rich people get affected?>>>> * Why have we not got the World Health Organization looking into this?>>>> May 10 2011. I still have crawling sensations and use clear tape but>only>> find fibres and no bites. I have analyzed fibres in dust from my TV>and PC>> screen and many other things and they appear to be the same as found>on my>> face. Oh, and no I don't wear the leggings any more LOL. I would say>you>> should think of any ideas outside the box that may sound odd or stupid>but>> try them anyway.>>>>>>>> I'm a male, now 61, I split with my 32 year old second wife (not my>doing)>> in 2006 and have two boys now 15 & 13 who stay with me every>weekend. I>> live about 6 miles from London, England just in the suburbs. I have a>> daughter 39 and son 36 and 6 grandchildren (2 years to 15 years old).>My 36>> year old son is now a life coach and his biggest help for me was>teaching me>> about persistence in life.>>>>>>>> The above worked for me but I can not be responsible for any misuse of>> products that may have an adverse affect to human, animal or plant>life.>> READ THE LABEL FIRST and decide for yourself.>>>> Thoroughly wash your hands before eating, smoking, drinking or>touching your>> mouth, nose, eyes, ears or private parts.>>>>>>>> I will try to answer any questions.>>>>>>>> Regards Rob>>>>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------\>---->>>----------------------------------------------------------\>---->> ------------------------------------------------->>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Hi Doris Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent is rough on the open sores like soap is in an open cut . , but the 2nd bath the next day didn't burn at all since the 1st bath closed up the sores , after that I never felt a thing . Also a & h is great for the hair to stop scalp itches . I makes the hair a littl dry so I bung my head in the tubw/ 2 tbls cococnut oil & leave it on over nite & that softens the hair & kills even move bugs .. .. God bl.ess you Doris , Bill On Tue May 24th, 2011 10:10 AM EDT Doris Kennedy wrote: >Did you get any burning when you did this - I tried it once and my whole body >turned red and swollen for two day, especially my legs. > > > > >________________________________ >From: Doe <doe1769@...> >bird mites >Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 11:37:16 PM >Subject: Re: Re: Mites Eradicated...thanks for sharing! > > >Hi > >I took a borax bath in 1 cup per bath tub , soaked for 30 mins , rinsed & draied >tub , then refilled & added 2 tbls coconut oil form the grocers next to the >olive oil & all crawling stopped for 2 years now , iHad crawling for 3 years at >leastt before that nite Praise God . > >Also baking soda puffed on surface stops all bugs & makes them go > >God bless you , > >Bill > >ps Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent 1 cup per gallon detsroys this bug >very well . 1 cup of it in the bath heals lesions fast > >On Mon May 23rd, 2011 3:24 PM EDT hate_mites2 wrote: > >>Hi Rob, >>Glad to read some success stories now and then. It helps to motivate >>others who have not had much luck. I am glad you were able to see the >>mite that caused the problem for you, unfortunately some types of bird >>mites, specifically D. Gallinae, are much harder to see. You species was >>dark and large enough to view and most likely was the NFM variety. >> >>Regarding your questions: >> * If the BL is air breathing how can it live in certain parts of >>our bodies? Bird mites are body breathers through holes/vents in their >>exoskeletan and can live long periods in water, etc. They do not stay >>long internally, mainly at night and to lay eggs. Such as in the ears, >>nostrils, etc. >> * Are we all infested with the same bug? No, there are many >>species of parasitic mites which bother humans, some still unidentified. >> * If we all collected a sample on clear tape and write a >>personal account could we not send it to every University, Gov health >>department, WHO, Museum, etc???? This time of year in the US, I know the >>CDC hears lots of complaints on this issue, however, because mites do >>not typically spread pathogens and cause disease, this would not be >>their area of interest. >> * Why does it affect only us folk that do not have the funds to >>eradicate it, do rich people get affected? It can sure seem like that, >>but when I hosted birdmites.org I heard from people from all walks of >>life who had to deal with this, including doctors, nurses, TV newshosts, >>etc. One dermatologist from SA who was afflicted felt that his >>colleagues were not fully educated on this issue and was in the process >>of writing about his ordeal. >> >>Thanks again and continued success here, >>Tim >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Hi, If this is of no help I apologise as after two years I am still a >>little >>> intimidated by this forum and not sure of the rules. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am still reading the group emails once a week and it's now over two >>years >>> since the " devils bugs " left me alone. I wrote this last year and have >>added >>> and changed it over the last year but thought it may be too long to >>send. >>> But I am sending it anyway. >>> >>> >>> >>> I was oblivious to any problem a simple pigeon's nest in a >>neighbouring >>> porch could cause. Standing in the beautiful sunshine with a clear >>blue sky >>> I was watching a workman clear the nest, I felt sorry for the young >>pigeons >>> perched on the roof with their home being destroyed and stuffed into >>refuse >>> bags. >>> >>> Visiting a friend a few days later she remarked on me scratching my >>legs and >>> arms which made her feel itchy. I could only say I had been bitten by >>a >>> mosquito in the night. Sitting at my PC which is in my bedroom corner >>near a >>> large box bay window overlooking the neighbours porch I could see tiny >> " pin >>> head size bugs " on my pc screen which I cleaned off with a tissue. The >>> itching continued and the bites were now on my legs,arms,chest & >>private >>> area which seem to be while in bed but I was also feeling a crawling >>> sensation all over my body. >>> >>> >>> >>> While sitting at my PC the next day I was Itching and felt a crawling >>> sensation on my skin. Later that day my best friend was on her weekly >>visit >>> for a cup of good old " English Tea " and a chat and said she had >>been bitten >>> by something to which I said she must have a flea on her from her dog. >>On >>> her leaving I thought it strange and worrying that she had a small >>bite >>> similar to my ones and hastily found my watch makers magnifying lens >>but >>> could find no fleas on my sofa. On returning to my pc I could see a >>few bugs >>> on the screen and took a closer look with my lens, they looked like >>tiny >>> spider /bugs? Now I decided to check around the bedroom and was >>horrified to >>> find my desktop PC ,laptop,printers,speakers,window sill box, plant >>pots >>> cables,floor,walls,desk etc covered in tiny pin heads crawling around. >>On >>> checking my arm that I rest on my sill box I had them crawling in the >>hairs >>> and then found them on my chair. I sprayed everywhere with " Dettol " >>> disinfectant and wiped them up with kitchen roll. Hours later they >>were back >>> and I was feeling that I must have an unhygienic home. >>> >>> >>> >>> I used clear tape to obtain a sample and drove to my local Maplin >>store to >>> buy a 100x hand microscope for £6.00 (10$ US?). On seeing them up >>close I >>> turned to the Internet for Identification and was amazed at the lack >>of >>> information on this simple tiny bug. Four days of internet later I >>found >>> them to be Bird mites/lice and that it is not easy to rid my home of >>these >>> nasty little often invisible to the eye bugs .On trailing through >>site >>> after site collecting information I decided to start my battle against >>these >>> EVIL little bugs. >>> >>> >>> >>> After many sleepless nights I decided it would be a war against evil. >>I >>> have been learning about positive thinking power and had signed up >>with a >>> life coach for a ten week course so decided that's the best starting >>point >>> for all challenges in life. Check out the power of positive thinking >>on the >>> internet and get your mind positive, not easy at first but it really >>does >>> help. >>> >>> >>> >>> First on the list was to visit my local " Pets at Home " mega store >>which by >>> luck the first person I spoke to didn't have a clue what I was on >>about >>> (negative) and thought the store could not help me, BUT he would just >>ask >>> someone outback if they know anything about bugs. A few minutes later >>I was >>> asked to describe the " bug " in detail, again he disappeared outback >>and >>> after 3 minutes the answer was that our mysterious man from " outback " >>had >>> completed a course on animal parasites and my " bugs " are Bird Lice >>(mites) >>> that probably entered my home in their thousands looking for a host >>after >>> the nest was removed. He directed me to the Livestock product area. >>> >>> >>> >>> I purchased the powder plus following which I had extracted from many >>Ideas >>> on the internet. >>> >>> >>> >>> Product List >>> >>> * " Livestock Louse Powder " covering Cattle to Poultry etc to small >>> animals (IT WORKS) (UK manufacturer) >>> >>> * " Raid " Ant & Cockroach Killer by >>> >>> * 4 cans of " Arrid " Extra Dry ( Did not work for me) >>> >>> * " Maplin " 100x hand microscope (200x hand held would be better) >>> >>> * " Dettol " surface cleaner (It kills them or I think it may drown >>> them) >>> >>> * Menthol crystals (Chemist) >>> >>> * " Vics " menthol rub >>> >>> * Zip up mattress bedbug cover >>> >>> * Latex gloves >>> >>> * Veruca socks >>> >>> * Lavender burning sticks >>> >>> * " Herbalife " Herbal Aloe products >>> >>> * Large Magnifying glass >>> >>> * Vacuum cleaner bags (lots) (Don't forget to seal the vacuum hose to >>> stop BL crawling out) >>> >>> * Oh and life coaching if you can afford it to get that positive >>> attitude! >>> >>> Some of the above may be UK only. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What I have done >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thinking this out I realised that the lice/mites which I call " BL " >>were only >>> present in my bedroom and mainly around my PC area so I wanted to >>contain >>> them by using the bedroom for sitting/sleeping as they need a host to >>feed >>> and may stay near to their host (ME) keeping them clear of other parts >>of my >>> apartment (yes I let them feed on me to keep them in one area but it >>was a >>> sacrifice worthwhile as they were already on my body) >>> >>> I had read that my car could become infested as could anyone I visited >>so >>> would need to have clothing clear of BL to wear after showering. I >>showered, >>> dressed and got out ASAP and have found this worked as I did not get >>bitten >>> while I was out. I use Herbal Aloe Everyday Shampoo and the >>Conditioner as I >>> find the Aloe products work for me. Using Herbal Aloe Gel after my >>shower >>> also works on bites and seems to keep them off of me when ready to go >>out. >>> >>> >>> >>> First was to vacuum and clean EVERY SINGLE part of my apartment >>including >>> placing everything from shelves, ledges, floor and walls into air >>tight bags >>> (vacuum suction storage bags from the £1 shop) with a spray of Raid >>Ant & >>> Cockroach Killer in the bag before hand. Working my way to the bedroom >>(try >>> to do this in the same day if you have time) >>> >>> I keep reading that most people find BL on or near their PC, I ask >>myself >>> why? It must be to do with BL needing a host. >>> >>> Spray with raid and wipe off all pc/TV/phone cables and place in >>clear bags >>> to minimize re-infection while cleaning. I cleaned everything >>thoroughly top >>> bottom sides including nooks and crannies. My desk had BL all over as >>did >>> the window area and I found they get under ledges so I vacuumed walls, >>> ceiling and floor. Working through the room to the bed I vacuumed >>under the >>> bed and all framework including the mattress (leave nothing to chance) >>I >>> then sprinkled Louse powder and rubbed it in to the floor, skirting >>boards, >>> window woodwork and into any cracks .I did not clean the powder from >>the >>> floor knowing that many BL would have to crawl onto it. After >>reassembling >>> everything I sprayed the Raid over everything but the bed. (Careful >>not to >>> soak electrics) Do the above as often as possible but only spray Raid >>about >>> every three days. Arrid just made a sticky mess of everything and did >>> nothing to the BLs. >>> >>> >>> >>> * Wash bed sheets as often as possible. >>> >>> * I found that wearing the Veruca socks and Latex gloves with Vics >>> smeared around the openings stopped the BL crawling on to my skin >>while >>> cleaning. >>> >>> * At night I burnt the Lavender sticks which I feel may have helped. >>> >>> >>> * I put the Menthol crystals in hot water in my bedroom and feel this >>> may also help as my children did not get bites. >>> >>> * Don't leave the vacuum cleaner standing without spraying some Raid >>> down the pipe while turned on and sealing the opening with tape when >>not in >>> use. >>> >>> * Check everything regularly with Magnifying glass and hand microscope >>> using clear tape to trap some mites. >>> >>> * Breathing in any spray products are a serious health hazard so I >>> recommend a mask. >>> >>> * Guys, cut your head hair as short as work/social life allows. Shaved >>> head is best. ( girls may look a little odd with no hair) >>> >>> * Be extra careful not to contaminate other parts of your home even >>> walking around could spread them. >>> >>> >>> >>> I found in the first few days that the only thing that started dieing >>was >>> one of my house plants but then I was seeing less of the BL but be >>aware >>> that the young ones may hatch out within a week or so as far as I can >>tell. >>> Keep doing the above until you see results. >>> >>> As for being bitten at night I found certain things do work. >>> >>> On testing an Idea for the constant crawling feeling while attempting >>to >>> sleep I kept several cuts of clear tape by my bed which I used on my >>face >>> through the nights only to find that tiny loose hairs were all I could >>see >>> under the microscope. I did pull BL off of my body with the tape. >>> >>> My doctor had told me a few years back to use Extra Virgin Olive Oil >>in my >>> ears at night to loosen wax so I was going to try leaving the residue >>oil >>> in my ears to stop or catch the BL but never got round to trying it. >>> >>> >>> >>> At one time I thought they were gone but found them on and under a >>large pot >>> plant which on using the Raid killed them on contact. My 11 year old >>found >>> two at the weekend and I have found one live in four days and then a >>few >>> dead ones. I will keep the war going until I find none for a few >>weeks. >>> >>> I have found some spiders around my pc area which may be eating the BL >>but >>> without a lab to test this I can't be sure so rather than catching the >>> spiders I am leaving them for now (not happy with spiders in my >>bedroom) >>> >>> >>> >>> After two weeks my 11 year old has one bite but I can only find dead >>BL >>> still. At one month I have realized that my face has become very >>sensitive >>> to even a hair or speck. I decided to use clear tape on my face to >>capture >>> anything that remotely feels crawly or itchy but after a week of >>sticking >>> tape to a white paper sheet and using the microscope I only found >>black/blue >>> fibres. I phoned a friend who I have not had contact with or knows of >>my >>> problem and asked her to stick a piece of tape on her face and see >>what was >>> on it, she was shocked to find black particles and black/blue, red and >>some >>> yellow flat looking fibres on her face. I can only think that the >>fibres >>> must be from clothing sticking to the face over the course of the day. >>(I >>> have asked other friends to check their faces with tape and all get >>similar >>> results) >>> >>> >>> >>> It's now 4 months since it all started and the BL seem to have >>gone but I >>> will carry on checking and using my methods until I feel safe. I have >>> observed myself in my home and found that the only place I feel >>crawling is >>> near my PC and on walking to another room the sensation goes away. I >>believe >>> that I have been left with the psychological crawling sensation which >>I will >>> now deal with. >>> >>> >>> >>> Well that was probably very long and boring for you but if it helps >>just one >>> person I'm happy. My worry was my kids being bitten or carrying them >>back to >>> their mother's home but my showering, dressing and Aloe product >>strategy >>> seems to have worked for them. The car is clear and our UK freezing >>winters >>> would kill them anyway. My plant has seen better days but may pull >>through. >>> I'm told that with fast breading insects and animals that they can >>quickly >>> become immune to products from the natural process of evolution so I >>hope >>> that the above products can take them out before they evolve. >>> >>> I have now had some full nights of sleep but find it hard not to wake >>up >>> through the night to check around. The crawling sensation has got less >>but I >>> know much of it is psychological. The biting has at last stopped. >>> >>> >>> >>> The Bird Mite/Lice are ruining people's lives and I felt >>completely lost and >>> alone at night, desolate, abandoned and wanting to give up but >>positive >>> thinking kept me going. Don't just hope but do, they can be beaten >>there is >>> always a way if you are persistent. >>> >>> >>> >>> I read that satin clothing helped as BL like Cotton. I found that >>Satin is >>> basically 100% Polyester so my friend (female) bough two pair of >>ladies >>> 100%polyester leggings for me which were tight fitting, that stopped >>the >>> biting on my legs, butt and privates altogether (the legging must be >>close >>> woven which I checked with my magnifying glass before purchase) Men's >>satin >>> underwear and nightclothes are available but are loose fitting so not >>a >>> great option. I looked stupid but hey whatever it takes and to be >>honest >>> when I was younger and used to go sea fishing in mid winter and my >>wife >>> use to give me her tights (hose) to keep me warm under my thermals >>and >>> waterproofs so no big deal. >>> >>> >>> >>> Vics menthol vapour rub seems to stop the BL from crawling up >>furniture legs >>> but I think they may get on the ceiling and drop onto the body ( >>vacuum >>> ceiling thoroughly) >>> >>> >>> >>> Also eat good nutritious food and keep your body in shape for the >>fight! >>> >>> _________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> Some questions I don't understand. >>> >>> >>> >>> * If the BL is air breathing how can it live in certain parts of our >>> bodies? >>> >>> * Are we all infested with the same bug? >>> >>> * If we all collected a sample on clear tape and write a personal >>> account could we not send it to every University, Gov health >>department, >>> WHO, Museum, etc???? >>> >>> * Why does it affect only us folk that do not have the funds to >>> eradicate it, do rich people get affected? >>> >>> * Why have we not got the World Health Organization looking into this? >>> >>> May 10 2011. I still have crawling sensations and use clear tape but >>only >>> find fibres and no bites. I have analyzed fibres in dust from my TV >>and PC >>> screen and many other things and they appear to be the same as found >>on my >>> face. Oh, and no I don't wear the leggings any more LOL. I would say >>you >>> should think of any ideas outside the box that may sound odd or stupid >>but >>> try them anyway. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm a male, now 61, I split with my 32 year old second wife (not my >>doing) >>> in 2006 and have two boys now 15 & 13 who stay with me every >>weekend. I >>> live about 6 miles from London, England just in the suburbs. I have a >>> daughter 39 and son 36 and 6 grandchildren (2 years to 15 years old). >>My 36 >>> year old son is now a life coach and his biggest help for me was >>teaching me >>> about persistence in life. >>> >>> >>> >>> The above worked for me but I can not be responsible for any misuse of >>> products that may have an adverse affect to human, animal or plant >>life. >>> READ THE LABEL FIRST and decide for yourself. >>> >>> Thoroughly wash your hands before eating, smoking, drinking or >>touching your >>> mouth, nose, eyes, ears or private parts. >>> >>> >>> >>> I will try to answer any questions. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>----------------------------------------------------------\ >>---- >>> >>----------------------------------------------------------\ >>---- >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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