Re: Re:Nano-UV disinfection scanner.

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Has anyone ever tried using something called a Nano-UV Disinfection Scanner. It is the use of UV light to destroy microorganims without using sprays etc?

The only place I have trouble is sometimes at work, from the carpeting, probably dust mites that kick off an allerigic response and awakes all my old hot spots which may still contain bacteria left from the mites. I am thinking of ordering this wand since I can't spray at work or sprinkle earth Diamacsous

Also, this is not a poison which seems to strenghten the bugs instead of killling them.

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 11:46:22 AMSubject: Re: Re: New onslaught

That's an interesting point . Talking only of bird mites, I was assuming that mites could just as easily bite one person as another, but perhaps some people are more susceptible than others. Is it that bird mites bite some people but not others, or is it that they bite any people they come into contact with but some people do not notice or react to the bite? For instance, most people seem to get bitten by mosquitoes, but some more than others. Mozzies love me & get a lot of mozzie bites if I go out unprotected. But, there is one particular type of mozzie to whose bite I am allergic; I get a huge swelling, about the size of half a smallish orange. Presumably this type of mozzie bites other members of the family but their body does not react in the same way. Could it be the same way with mite bites?I gather many if not most people are inhabited by demodex mites, most people do not notice them, but some people seem to

have trouble with them. I gather it is suggested people who have a compromised immune response are thought to be more prone to trouble with demodex. I wonder whether it could be the same with bird mites. All the best,Krys

On 5 May 2011 23:49, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Good points Krys. My doctor is a Lyme Disease specialist and following all of this very closely with exact dosage. This particular drug is being used extensively right now in the Lyme Disease community. You would have to research the drug and dosage very carefully to make sure it would be safe. We did use meds from PetMeds at one point that seemed to help a bit. But that was not prescribed by my doctor, it was when we were trying to deal with this and the Lyme and co-infections on our own.

Also your point is good about driving the mites to others. That 1950's articlet you and Tim sent a link for a few days ago said that you can drive mites to other parts of the body after you treat them. They travel easily under the skin. They could also find another host in a work situation.

Re: Re: New onslaught

It isn't necessarily straight forward to use veterinary medicines on humans without doctor's supervision. The dosage does not, necessarily, correspond kg to kg, due to differing metabolic rates. For instance dosage per kilo for a cow is probably not the same as for a dog, or for a human or for a chicken. One could work out the dosage for a human by comparing with the product made for humans, in the case of ivermectin, brand name Stromectol. I had left some eprinomectin cattle pour on at my mothers', last time I was over, & told her how to use it on her huskies, but I'm too worried to have my mother try to dose herself in case she gets it wrong. I'm not sure systemic endectocides would kill all the mites for Aggi, because the mites are in her work environment (as well as at home?). While the mites which bit Aggi would probably die, there is still the possibility of the mites in the environment biting her colleagues, who are

untreated, & thus the mites would survive.Best wishesKrys

On 5 May 2011 20:46, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Aggi--

I've had to use veterinary meds on a number of occasions--my doctor has me starting injecting penicillin made for cattle for Lyme disease ... She says it is the same thing as human penicillin & so much cheaper. $15/bottle as opposed to hundreds. Will start when I get right sized syringes & needles.

Apparently so many people with Lyme now are getting full recovery with injecting self 3x per week. Saw LLD again last week for Lyme.

I would not hesitate to use Ivermectin again & order from vet supplies.

Sent from my iPod

On May 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Krys,Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car and

new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp. Take care,Aggi> > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > > >> > > > So here

i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.> > > >> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...> > > >> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is> > just right back at the doorstep.> > > >> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.> > > >>

> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The

misty solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woods….> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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I know Costco carried this for a while. I did not buy one.

Re: Re: New onslaught

It isn't necessarily straight forward to use veterinary medicines on humans without doctor's supervision. The dosage does not, necessarily, correspond kg to kg, due to differing metabolic rates. For instance dosage per kilo for a cow is probably not the same as for a dog, or for a human or for a chicken. One could work out the dosage for a human by comparing with the product made for humans, in the case of ivermectin, brand name Stromectol. I had left some eprinomectin cattle pour on at my mothers', last time I was over, & told her how to use it on her huskies, but I'm too worried to have my mother try to dose herself in case she gets it wrong. I'm not sure systemic endectocides would kill all the mites for Aggi, because the mites are in her work environment (as well as at home?). While the mites which bit Aggi would probably die, there is still the possibility of the mites in the environment biting her colleagues, who are untreated, & thus the mites would survive.Best wishesKrys

On 5 May 2011 20:46, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Aggi--

I've had to use veterinary meds on a number of occasions--my doctor has me starting injecting penicillin made for cattle for Lyme disease ... She says it is the same thing as human penicillin & so much cheaper. $15/bottle as opposed to hundreds. Will start when I get right sized syringes & needles.

Apparently so many people with Lyme now are getting full recovery with injecting self 3x per week. Saw LLD again last week for Lyme.

I would not hesitate to use Ivermectin again & order from vet supplies.

Sent from my iPod

On May 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Krys,Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp. Take care,Aggi> > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > > >> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.> > > >> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...> > > >> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is> > just right back at the doorstep.> > > >> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The misty solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woods….> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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Wonder if buying UV bulbs for reptiles at the PetSmart store and using instead of light bulbs would be a good thing?

Hi Krys,Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car

and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp. Take care,Aggi> > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped

big time> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > > >> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.> > > >> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...> > > >> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is> > just right back at the doorstep.> > > >> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever> > been reported? Maybe we all

have something in common. Is it known for> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter

whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The misty solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woods….> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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Got to say though, the floating fibers I had were real bad around the floressent light in the kitchen.

Hi Krys,Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car

and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp. Take care,Aggi> > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > > >> > > > So here i go again,

covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.> > > >> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...> > > >> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is> > just right back at the doorstep.> > > >> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.> > > >> >

>> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The misty

solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woods….> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling