Guest guest Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Oh yes , i do remember now. We were speculating if demodex mites are able to wandering around and spread to other body parts. I found a source online were i can purchase the MMS. It is also quite cheep, so i will give it a try. Besides, it is true what Marie said, that the MSM helps the biofilm. It has got slightly better, but the mites still happily live in my scalp. The sulfur bath only helps temporarily. All the best to you, Aggi > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a > > > > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a > > > > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation. > > > > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time > > > > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from > > > > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why. > > > > > > > > > > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp, > > > > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears. > > > > > > > > > > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without > > > > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say > > > > how happy i was. Now back to square one... > > > > > > > > > > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is > > > > just right back at the doorstep. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever > > > > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for > > > > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i > > > > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > They shut the road through the woods > > > Seventy years ago. > > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > > And now you would never know > > > There was once a road through the woods > > > Before they planted the trees. > > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > > And the thin anemones. > > > Only the keeper sees > > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > > Of a summer evening late, > > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > > Because they see so few) > > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > > Steadily cantering through > > > The misty solitudes, > > > As though they perfectly knew > > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > * > > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > They shut the road through the woods > > Seventy years ago. > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > And now you would never know > > There was once a road through the woods > > Before they planted the trees. > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > And the thin anemones. > > Only the keeper sees > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > Of a summer evening late, > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > Because they see so few) > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > Steadily cantering through > > The misty solitudes, > > As though they perfectly knew > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > They shut the road through the woods > > Seventy years ago. > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > And now you would never know > > There was once a road through the woods > > Before they planted the trees. > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > And the thin anemones. > > Only the keeper sees > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > Of a summer evening late, > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > Because they see so few) > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > Steadily cantering through > > The misty solitudes, > > As though they perfectly knew > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > But there is no road through the woods. > > > > The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Hi Aggie,What a nice email. I passed your message on to my mother & she thought it exceedingly kind of you. I thought my mother may have had a fungal infection involved as she has had that sort of trouble before. I wonder what attracts the mites to certain people. My mother has always been very fit & athletic; she was very sporty in her younger days. She has very fine skin & is very susceptible to allergies. I wonder whether may have anything to do with it. I don't know much about entomology past parasites affecting poultry & the mites affecting poultry, luckily, do not like me (touch wood). Shame I can't say the same about mozzies. The idea of the parasite marking their host is strange, but many very strange things happen. I am very curious to know what makes one person susceptible & another not. We don't have an Northern Fowl Mite (O.sylvarium) in the birds at present, but it makes me wonder whether some chickens were more affected than others. I definitely remember, once when we thought we had the affected birds isolated there was just one bird in a different shed which was noticeably affected but none apparent on the others (O.sylvarium is much easier to spot than D.gallinae, because the mites live on the host). We were treating all of the birds on that day, I don't remember what happened after that. I only remember it because it seemed strange. Best wishesKrys On 6 May 2011 21:44, Aggi <aggi_assmann@...> wrote: Hi Krys, Maybe it is as simple as some critters prefer certain blood types? This is why I'd asked here previously if we possibly all have something in common ? This is funny about the mozzies, because my boyfried seems to attract them big time. I am absolutely safe being around him when a mozzie is. On the other hand, and that might be the most interesting part for you, is, that he never got bothered by my mites. Neither have i ever transmitted my mites onto anybody else. No family member, boyfriend, best friends, colleagues, they only bite me ! Is there any mite out there, that is a 100% host-specific? I can also believe in the theory of parasites 'marking their hosts' one guy posted here. Can't remember who did, but been reading a lot about it online since. Besides, my immune system has always worked perfectly, never been seriously sick my entire life, always loved sports, turning 50 this year noone believes. Also blessed that i never had them real bad skin leasons, my bites just appear as little red papules, healing very quickly. At the time of my infestation i had a little skin fungus w/o even knowing and this probably was the reason for the initial attack. As for the situation at home it goes very well, about 80% better just by excessive cleaning, hoovering and hot washing for 2 years, no chemicals used. Biggest problems are car and office due to the carpets. Simply do not know what to do there. Glad to hear your mum is doing slightly better. I was absolutely devastated in the 1st year of the infestation until i found this forum. It is a good thing you keep reading these posts to your mum. please give her my regards and send her a big hug and get well soon ! > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Hi All, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i > >> had a > >> > > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a > >> > > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation. > >> > > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big > >> time > >> > > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went > >> from > >> > > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason > >> why. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and > >> scalp, > >> > > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without > >> > > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to > >> say > >> > > how happy i was. Now back to square one... > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called > >> depression is > >> > > just right back at the doorstep. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this > >> ever > >> > > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for > >> > > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i > >> > > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > They shut the road through the woods > >> > Seventy years ago. > >> > Weather and rain have undone it again, > >> > And now you would never know > >> > There was once a road through the woods > >> > Before they planted the trees. > >> > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > >> > And the thin anemones. > >> > Only the keeper sees > >> > That, where the ring-dove broods, > >> > And the badgers roll at ease, > >> > There was once a road through the woods. > >> > > >> > Yet, if you enter the woods > >> > Of a summer evening late, > >> > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > >> > Where the otter whistles his mate. > >> > (They fear not men in the woods, > >> > Because they see so few) > >> > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > >> > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > >> > Steadily cantering through > >> > The misty solitudes, > >> > As though they perfectly knew > >> > The old lost road through the woods…. > >> > But there is no road through the woods. > >> > * > >> > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > They shut the road through the woods > > Seventy years ago. > > Weather and rain have undone it again, > > And now you would never know > > There was once a road through the woods > > Before they planted the trees. > > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > > And the thin anemones. > > Only the keeper sees > > That, where the ring-dove broods, > > And the badgers roll at ease, > > There was once a road through the woods. > > > > Yet, if you enter the woods > > Of a summer evening late, > > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > > Where the otter whistles his mate. > > (They fear not men in the woods, > > Because they see so few) > > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > > Steadily cantering through > > The misty solitudes, > > As though they perfectly knew > > The old lost road through the woods…. > > But there is no road through the woods. > > * > > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > > > > > > > > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods > Seventy years ago. > Weather and rain have undone it again, > And now you would never know > There was once a road through the woods > Before they planted the trees. > It is underneath the coppice and heath, > And the thin anemones. > Only the keeper sees > That, where the ring-dove broods, > And the badgers roll at ease, > There was once a road through the woods. > > Yet, if you enter the woods > Of a summer evening late, > When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools > Where the otter whistles his mate. > (They fear not men in the woods, > Because they see so few) > You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, > And the swish of a skirt in the dew, > Steadily cantering through > The misty solitudes, > As though they perfectly knew > The old lost road through the woods…. > But there is no road through the woods. > * > The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling > -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 Thanks Cecilia, I've just looked, it is available in UK.Best wishesKrysOn 7 May 2011 14:43, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote: Dear Krys! A skincreme that we found better than anything else when the skin dries out from sulphur or so is Decubal. IF she can find that (is available in nordic countries and thereby probably thru internet in UK as well) it might be a good idea. Kind regards Cecilia From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 11:09:09 PMSubject: Re: Re: New onslaught Hi , Hope you have a good weekend too. We had mothering Sunday a few weeks ago in UK (in Lent).Oh, I really, hate ticks. How horrid having 40 on you. That would have made me panic. I wonder why they were only on you, that is so odd. Our three dogs we brought over from Britain got Lyme's disease. First my daughter's little Jack became ill & the vet couldn't save her, one boder collie died with a month & the other border collie dog was on antibiotics for months (he's still with us). We were so terribly sad, we hadn't really been aware of Lyme's disease & our ignorance caused them terrible suffering. We don't get many ticks in UK, I didn't know what they were at first. I used to panic & flick them away but I'm getting better about just picking them up & flushing them down the loo. Thanks for asking after Mother. She phones me every day at the mo & I read the group's emails to her, tell her people do defeat the parasites & people do get better. It gives her hope; she was getting so distraught. She also felt very sad for Sandy's troubles.She's thrown lots of her clothes away, sealed the rest in vinyl bag things after cleaing & she's getting her " shopping list " together, but has not obtained all the things yet. I tell her she could get the things at the chemists in town, but she's getting them from Amazon....even the baking powder. Mother says she has rosacea; she says that's why she has some red broken veins on her cheeks. Is that so? If so, do you think there could be a link? I think she may also be run down with all the stress; I am getting her to take the vitamins & minerals designed for older people. She said, today, she is having less trouble with her hair. She's been soaking in Epsom Salts every night, using neem shampoo, & permethrin cream in her hair, plus neem oil & Sudocrem on her body. her skin has become very dry, Sudocrem is pretty good for healing cuts & grazes but it is also used for nappy rash. It contains Zinc oxide, plus Benzyl alcohol (mild anasthetic, disinfectant), Benzyl benzoate (pesticide), Benzyl cinnamate (antibacterial, antifungal). It sounded to me like the Sudocrem might help, until she the sulphur arrives, but she says Sudocrem makes her feel like a " grease ball " . :~/ She says the neem makes the black specks come out more easily.Thanks for your helpKrys On 6 May 2011 14:29, <Goldstein@...> wrote: I suspect that the immune compromised have the worst trouble with the mites and other insects as well. Years ago I had gone with my husband and son on a camping trip in North Dakota (Yellowstone and all over). We walked through a field with no path towards a river to observe beavers. I came back with over 40 ticks on me and neither of them had any ticks on them. I wish someone did research on that. But I think it might have to do with how well the body combats inflammation? Maybe. Anyway, we were out again in the bush on Easter day and swarmed with mosquitoes by the hundreds. I had so many layers of clothing on they couldn't get me, but they sure tried. I have demodex mites, but the last time I went to the opthalmologist (2 weeks ago) she could not see any in my eyelashes. It seems there is a relationship between demodex and those who have rosacea. I had rosacea but was able to get rid of it with antibiotics. I also suspected demodex could possibly bite the eyeballs too. Demodex are known to wander on the body too, but most common on the face. They live in hair follicles as you probably know. How's mama doing or have you spoken to her lately? Have a great week-end all. Happy Mother's day to all you mom's out there. It is a work day for us--we're having our electrical updated in the house on Monday (recessed lighting and other projects) so have to get things organized and cleared out. Re: Re: New onslaught It isn't necessarily straight forward to use veterinary medicines on humans without doctor's supervision. The dosage does not, necessarily, correspond kg to kg, due to differing metabolic rates. For instance dosage per kilo for a cow is probably not the same as for a dog, or for a human or for a chicken. One could work out the dosage for a human by comparing with the product made for humans, in the case of ivermectin, brand name Stromectol. I had left some eprinomectin cattle pour on at my mothers', last time I was over, & told her how to use it on her huskies, but I'm too worried to have my mother try to dose herself in case she gets it wrong. I'm not sure systemic endectocides would kill all the mites for Aggi, because the mites are in her work environment (as well as at home?). While the mites which bit Aggi would probably die, there is still the possibility of the mites in the environment biting her colleagues, who are untreated, & thus the mites would survive.Best wishesKrys On 5 May 2011 20:46, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote: Aggi-- I've had to use veterinary meds on a number of occasions--my doctor has me starting injecting penicillin made for cattle for Lyme disease ... She says it is the same thing as human penicillin & so much cheaper. $15/bottle as opposed to hundreds. Will start when I get right sized syringes & needles. Apparently so many people with Lyme now are getting full recovery with injecting self 3x per week. Saw LLD again last week for Lyme. I would not hesitate to use Ivermectin again & order from vet supplies. Sent from my iPod On May 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, " Aggi " <aggi_assmann@...> wrote: Hi Krys,Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist. I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me. The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp. Take care,Aggi > > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time > > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > > >> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp, > > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.> > > >> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say > > how happy i was. Now back to square one...> > > >> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is> > just right back at the doorstep.> > > >> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for > > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods > Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter whistles his mate. > (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The misty solitudes, > As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woods….> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling> -- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never know There was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never know There was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never know There was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling -- They shut the road through the woods Seventy years ago. Weather and rain have undone it again, And now you would never know There was once a road through the woods Before they planted the trees. It is underneath the coppice and heath, And the thin anemones. Only the keeper sees That, where the ring-dove broods, And the badgers roll at ease, There was once a road through the woods. Yet, if you enter the woods Of a summer evening late, When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools Where the otter whistles his mate. (They fear not men in the woods, Because they see so few) You will hear the beat of a horse's feet, And the swish of a skirt in the dew, Steadily cantering through The misty solitudes, As though they perfectly knew The old lost road through the woods…. But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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