Re: New onslaught

April 27, 2011

Oh, Aggi, I am so sorry, and I know how you feel! I have been going for 3 or 4

great days when I think I've turned the corner and then WHAM -- it's awful

again. Sometimes it's in the car, sometimes at work, sometimes in the house.

This is the most depresssing part -- getting the hopes up that all the efforts

have been working. I am getting sooo tired of everything.

I wonder if it really is birdmites sometimes. I have never gotten anything

identified, and sometimes I get bites but other times just crawling, crawling,

crawling....

I am going to try the antiobiotics as others have. I don't know what else to

do. Aggi, have you done antiobiotics yet?

I also have had some strange rashes that look like stretchmarks. On some sites

that is listed a symptom of bartonella, an infection from a tickbite. We had an

awful summer/fall last year with ticks. My poor dogs would have about 6

engrossed ticks each night that I would tweezer off. And I was using

Revolution, tickbaths, powder, etc. Nothing seems to work on those monsters!

I am living with a male friend and he feels nothing, and believes I am imagining

most of this. I've shown him the bites adn rashes but he doesn't know what to

say. Well, he certainly gets angry for me taking over the washing machine and

the funny smells of all of my concoctions.

You and everyone are in my prayers each night.

Mabel

>

> Hi All,

>

> After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a total

onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a horrendous night,

almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time all of

a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from being

totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

>

> So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

>

> For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without anything on

me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say how happy i was.

Now back to square one...

>

> I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is just

right back at the doorstep.

>

> Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever been

reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for example from

all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i believe, how many have

been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

>

April 28, 2011

Aggi Here is a survey, in fact from a gentleman in Germany. Believe has

given this before. Take the survey and read the likeness.

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-inquiry2.htm

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-statistic.htm

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-diagnosis.htm

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/

>

> Hi All,

>

> After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a total

onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a horrendous night,

almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time all of

a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from being

totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

>

> So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

>

> For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without anything on

me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say how happy i was.

Now back to square one...

>

> I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is just

right back at the doorstep.

>

> Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever been

reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for example from

all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i believe, how many have

been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

>

April 29, 2011

Hi , Aggi!This seems lika a knowledgeable man in Germany- Any chance you can try to see him?KRCeciliaFrom: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 10:05:59 PMSubject: Re: New onslaught

Aggi Here is a survey, in fact from a gentleman in Germany. Believe has given this before. Take the survey and read the likeness.

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-inquiry2.htm

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-statistic.htm

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-diagnosis.htm

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/

>

> Hi All,

>

> After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

>

> So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

>

> For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say how happy i was. Now back to square one...

>

> I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is just right back at the doorstep.

>

> Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

>

April 29, 2011

Thanks for reposting this Marie.

I recently purchased a handheld microscope and started looking at my skin once again, esp. looking for mites. I was surprised to see black seed-like dots in my skin that are microscopic. They are smaller than the head of a needle. I will post a few pictures if I can. Also finding fibers, of course.

Re: New onslaught

Aggi Here is a survey, in fact from a gentleman in Germany. Believe has given this before. Take the survey and read the likeness. http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-inquiry2.htmhttp://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-statistic.htmhttp://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-diagnosis.htmhttp://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/--- In bird mites , "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:>> Hi All,> > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation. > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,> repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.> > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say how happy i was. Now back to square one...> > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is just right back at the doorstep.> > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.>

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April 29, 2011

I had the black specks to. Still look for them in hot spots like under

breast. So far so good:0 Did find some springtials outside this spring, after

them I am.

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a total

onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a horrendous night,

almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time all

of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from being

totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

> >

> > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

> >

> > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without anything

on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say how happy i

was. Now back to square one...

> >

> > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is just

right back at the doorstep.

> >

> > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever been

reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for example from

all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i believe, how many have

been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

> >

>

May 1, 2011

Mabel,

Same here, my partner is not affected by the mites at all. He scratches his head

now and then, but that's about it. He has meanwhile accepted that there is

something seriously disrupting my life, but does not believe it is mites,

although i was clearly identified with blood-sucking mites and as it all kicked

off with that bird nest, i am almost 100% certain they are BM's. Not that i've

ever seen anything moving or crawling on me or elsewhere. Absolutely nothing

under a handheld magnifier. Think i was only lucky catching them on the tape

stuck on the bed frame at night.

I'd love to take antibiotics, but in Germany doctor's only prescripe them when

you have bad infections THEY WOULD KNOW ABOUT. I had a bronchitis last winter

and got antibiotics for 7 days to take, feeling all better plus been pretty much

ignored by the mites. Felt like heaven, just didn't last long ;-)

For me personally this is a total disaster and i very much doubt to ever get rid

of them, because like you said, these monsters seem invincible. Additionaly, how

to break the cycle having them in the home, in the car and at work? Home

environment seems to be manageable, but nothing in the car ever worked. In my

carpeted floor office i can only spray alcohol to keep them at bay.

Luckily, the wheather got sunny and dry again and the past couple of nights have

been a whole lot better.

Besides, i was having those strange red strechmarks on several occasions, but my

explanation to it was that the mite must have just pierced my skin and i

disturbed it by scratching and pulling the mite all through the skin. Maybe

nonsense, but for me i don't think i have Bartonella, but bird mites.

Have you been bit by the ticks last summer? Can you get tested for Bartonella?

Saying that, if tics spread Bartonelle, bird mites apparently can, too !

Gosh Mabel, i am feeling so helpless and scared at times. The only relief really

is this forum, being understood and pampered and cheered up every time i go

here.

You're all in my prayers each and every night. Get well soon !

Aggi

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a total

onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a horrendous night,

almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time all

of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from being

totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

> >

> > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

> >

> > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without anything

on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say how happy i

was. Now back to square one...

> >

> > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is just

right back at the doorstep.

> >

> > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever been

reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for example from

all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i believe, how many have

been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

> >

>

May 3, 2011

Hi Marie, thanks for reminding me of Marc. And yes, had sent me the link

previously. He seems to be a remarkable guy from what i've been reading so far.

He is very far away from my place, but i am going to send him an e-mail. Not

much hope he knows what to do about bird mites as he is specialized in

Morgellon's research, but why not try. Don't think there is any precautionary

steps one could take to prevent Morg's, is there. I've been doing better again

after my recent onslaught and i am hoping you are doing fine, too !

Take care,

Aggi

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a total

onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a horrendous night,

almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time all

of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from being

totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

> >

> > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

> >

> > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without anything

on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say how happy i

was. Now back to square one...

> >

> > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is just

right back at the doorstep.

> >

> > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever been

reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for example from

all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i believe, how many have

been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

> >

>

May 3, 2011

Aggi,Just an idea. If you problems are entirely bird mites, have you tried a systemic endectocide such as ivermectin or moxidectin? Research shows ivermectin is more effective against bird mites but both ought to work. If you didn't know precisely which type of mite, every warm blooded, living being in your house would need to be treated every month for about a year to be sure it would work. This is because bird mites such as D.gallinae can live for as long as 9 or 10 months without going to the host for a feed. I have tackled bird mites in poultry in this way as it is very difficult to remove them from the environment.

Ivermectin is regularly used in humans. I don't know what the rules in Germany regarding Ivermectin; in UK it is special type or prescription available only on request from a consultant to a public health authority.

RegardsKrysOn 3 May 2011 15:18, Aggi <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Marie, thanks for reminding me of Marc. And yes, had sent me the link previously. He seems to be a remarkable guy from what i've been reading so far. He is very far away from my place, but i am going to send him an e-mail. Not much hope he knows what to do about bird mites as he is specialized in Morgellon's research, but why not try. Don't think there is any precautionary steps one could take to prevent Morg's, is there. I've been doing better again after my recent onslaught and i am hoping you are doing fine, too !

Take care,

Aggi

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

> >

> > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

> >

> > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say how happy i was. Now back to square one...

> >

> > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is just right back at the doorstep.

> >

> > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

> >

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

May 3, 2011

Did you find your black specks by using hand held microscope? I had lots of the large black specks & fibers, but these ones are microscopic even with the scope. If you took a needle & pin pointed it to a black speck, it is smaller than the tip of the needle not the eye of the needle. I can't enlarge it any more. I think the small ones are of the same origin as the large ones everyone sees.Sent from my iPodOn Apr 29, 2011, at 11:47 AM, "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote:

I had the black specks to. Still look for them in hot spots like under breast. So far so good:0 Did find some springtials outside this spring, after them I am.

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

> >

> > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

> >

> > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say how happy i was. Now back to square one...

> >

> > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is just right back at the doorstep.

> >

> > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

> >

>

May 4, 2011

Hi Krys,

Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems

to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I

could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as

horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds

are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the

medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.

I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the

University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird

mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of

the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide

open window and started biting me.

The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept

carrying them in my clothes into the car and new home i had just moved to. After

about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my

entire body, especially hair and scalp.

Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding

something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to

hopefully get them out of my scalp.

Take care,

Aggi

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a

> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a

> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time

> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from

> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

> > > >

> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

> > > >

> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without

> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say

> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...

> > > >

> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is

> > just right back at the doorstep.

> > > >

> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever

> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for

> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i

> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> --

> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

May 5, 2011

Aggi--I've had to use veterinary meds on a number of occasions--my doctor has me starting injecting penicillin made for cattle for Lyme disease ... She says it is the same thing as human penicillin & so much cheaper. $15/bottle as opposed to hundreds. Will start when I get right sized syringes & needles.Apparently so many people with Lyme now are getting full recovery with injecting self 3x per week. Saw LLD again last week for Lyme.I would not hesitate to use Ivermectin again & order from vet supplies. Sent from my iPodOn May 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Krys,

Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.

I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.

The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.

Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp.

Take care,

Aggi

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a

> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a

> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time

> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from

> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

> > > >

> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

> > > >

> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without

> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say

> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...

> > > >

> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is

> > just right back at the doorstep.

> > > >

> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever

> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for

> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i

> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> --

> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

May 5, 2011

It isn't necessarily straight forward to use veterinary medicines on humans without doctor's supervision. The dosage does not, necessarily, correspond kg to kg, due to differing metabolic rates. For instance dosage per kilo for a cow is probably not the same as for a dog, or for a human or for a chicken.

One could work out the dosage for a human by comparing with the product made for humans, in the case of ivermectin, brand name Stromectol. I had left some eprinomectin cattle pour on at my mothers', last time I was over, & told her how to use it on her huskies, but I'm too worried to have my mother try to dose herself in case she gets it wrong.

I'm not sure systemic endectocides would kill all the mites for Aggi, because the mites are in her work environment (as well as at home?). While the mites which bit Aggi would probably die, there is still the possibility of the mites in the environment biting her colleagues, who are untreated, & thus the mites would survive.

Best wishesKrysOn 5 May 2011 20:46, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Aggi--I've had to use veterinary meds on a number of occasions--my doctor has me starting injecting penicillin made for cattle for Lyme disease ... She says it is the same thing as human penicillin & so much cheaper. $15/bottle as opposed to hundreds. Will start when I get right sized syringes & needles.

Apparently so many people with Lyme now are getting full recovery with injecting self 3x per week. Saw LLD again last week for Lyme.I would not hesitate to use Ivermectin again & order from vet supplies.

Sent from my iPodOn May 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, " Aggi " <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Krys,

Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.

I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.

The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.

Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp.

Take care,

Aggi

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a

> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a

> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.

> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time

> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from

> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.

> > > >

> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,

> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

> > > >

> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without

> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say

> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...

> > > >

> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is

> > just right back at the doorstep.

> > > >

> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever

> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for

> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i

> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> --

> They shut the road through the woods

> Seventy years ago.

> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know

> There was once a road through the woods

> Before they planted the trees.

> It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> And the thin anemones.

> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,

> And the badgers roll at ease,

> There was once a road through the woods.

>

> Yet, if you enter the woods

> Of a summer evening late,

> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.

> (They fear not men in the woods,

> Because they see so few)

> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,

> As though they perfectly knew

> The old lost road through the woods….

> But there is no road through the woods.

> *

> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

May 5, 2011

All seem like good reasonable points Krys. I am under a doctor's supervision with the penicillin for cattle with exact dosing. My doctor is a Lyme specialist and speaks yearly at the California Lyme Disease and its Associated Disorders meetings (CALDA). But your point is well taken. If you don't know the product and how much should be taken, it could be dangerous. For a long time she did have me on Stromectol. Also doctors at my HMO had us on Ivermectin too at one point. At the stage we were at it didn't seem to make much difference, but has helped a lot of people here too. We did take medications for animals at one point and it may have helped a little. I'm working on my issues with MMS and on the Lyme with injectible penicillin and some other things, plus working on the environment. I also just started per my doc instructions on antifungals once again.

One medication she prescribed for me I did not get--just too expensive. Costco pharmacy wanted over a $1,000 for one prescription. I think the combo I'm doing will give me some really good results. Other people with Lyme are really getting help from the combination.

Re: Re: New onslaught

It isn't necessarily straight forward to use veterinary medicines on humans without doctor's supervision. The dosage does not, necessarily, correspond kg to kg, due to differing metabolic rates. For instance dosage per kilo for a cow is probably not the same as for a dog, or for a human or for a chicken. One could work out the dosage for a human by comparing with the product made for humans, in the case of ivermectin, brand name Stromectol. I had left some eprinomectin cattle pour on at my mothers', last time I was over, & told her how to use it on her huskies, but I'm too worried to have my mother try to dose herself in case she gets it wrong. I'm not sure systemic endectocides would kill all the mites for Aggi, because the mites are in her work environment (as well as at home?). While the mites which bit Aggi would probably die, there is still the possibility of the mites in the environment biting her colleagues, who are untreated, & thus the mites would survive.Best wishesKrys

On 5 May 2011 20:46, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Aggi--

I've had to use veterinary meds on a number of occasions--my doctor has me starting injecting penicillin made for cattle for Lyme disease ... She says it is the same thing as human penicillin & so much cheaper. $15/bottle as opposed to hundreds. Will start when I get right sized syringes & needles.

Apparently so many people with Lyme now are getting full recovery with injecting self 3x per week. Saw LLD again last week for Lyme.

I would not hesitate to use Ivermectin again & order from vet supplies.

Sent from my iPod

On May 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Krys,Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp. Take care,Aggi> > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > > >> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.> > > >> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...> > > >> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is> > just right back at the doorstep.> > > >> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The misty solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

May 5, 2011

Good points Krys. My doctor is a Lyme Disease specialist and following all of this very closely with exact dosage. This particular drug is being used extensively right now in the Lyme Disease community. You would have to research the drug and dosage very carefully to make sure it would be safe. We did use meds from PetMeds at one point that seemed to help a bit. But that was not prescribed by my doctor, it was when we were trying to deal with this and the Lyme and co-infections on our own.

Also your point is good about driving the mites to others. That 1950's articlet you and Tim sent a link for a few days ago said that you can drive mites to other parts of the body after you treat them. They travel easily under the skin. They could also find another host in a work situation.

Re: Re: New onslaught

It isn't necessarily straight forward to use veterinary medicines on humans without doctor's supervision. The dosage does not, necessarily, correspond kg to kg, due to differing metabolic rates. For instance dosage per kilo for a cow is probably not the same as for a dog, or for a human or for a chicken. One could work out the dosage for a human by comparing with the product made for humans, in the case of ivermectin, brand name Stromectol. I had left some eprinomectin cattle pour on at my mothers', last time I was over, & told her how to use it on her huskies, but I'm too worried to have my mother try to dose herself in case she gets it wrong. I'm not sure systemic endectocides would kill all the mites for Aggi, because the mites are in her work environment (as well as at home?). While the mites which bit Aggi would probably die, there is still the possibility of the mites in the environment biting her colleagues, who are untreated, & thus the mites would survive.Best wishesKrys

On 5 May 2011 20:46, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Aggi--

I've had to use veterinary meds on a number of occasions--my doctor has me starting injecting penicillin made for cattle for Lyme disease ... She says it is the same thing as human penicillin & so much cheaper. $15/bottle as opposed to hundreds. Will start when I get right sized syringes & needles.

Apparently so many people with Lyme now are getting full recovery with injecting self 3x per week. Saw LLD again last week for Lyme.

I would not hesitate to use Ivermectin again & order from vet supplies.

Sent from my iPod

On May 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Krys,Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp. Take care,Aggi> > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > > >> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.> > > >> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...> > > >> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is> > just right back at the doorstep.> > > >> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The misty solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

May 6, 2011

That's an interesting point . Talking only of bird mites, I was assuming that mites could just as easily bite one person as another, but perhaps some people are more susceptible than others. Is it that bird mites bite some people but not others, or is it that they bite any people they come into contact with but some people do not notice or react to the bite?

For instance, most people seem to get bitten by mosquitoes, but some more than others. Mozzies love me & get a lot of mozzie bites if I go out unprotected. But, there is one particular type of mozzie to whose bite I am allergic; I get a huge swelling, about the size of half a smallish orange. Presumably this type of mozzie bites other members of the family but their body does not react in the same way. Could it be the same way with mite bites?

I gather many if not most people are inhabited by demodex mites, most people do not notice them, but some people seem to have trouble with them. I gather it is suggested people who have a compromised immune response are thought to be more prone to trouble with demodex. I wonder whether it could be the same with bird mites.

All the best,KrysOn 5 May 2011 23:49, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Good points Krys. My doctor is a Lyme Disease specialist and following all of this very closely with exact dosage. This particular drug is being used extensively right now in the Lyme Disease community. You would have to research the drug and dosage very carefully to make sure it would be safe. We did use meds from PetMeds at one point that seemed to help a bit. But that was not prescribed by my doctor, it was when we were trying to deal with this and the Lyme and co-infections on our own.

Also your point is good about driving the mites to others. That 1950's articlet you and Tim sent a link for a few days ago said that you can drive mites to other parts of the body after you treat them. They travel easily under the skin. They could also find another host in a work situation.

Re: Re: New onslaught

It isn't necessarily straight forward to use veterinary medicines on humans without doctor's supervision. The dosage does not, necessarily, correspond kg to kg, due to differing metabolic rates. For instance dosage per kilo for a cow is probably not the same as for a dog, or for a human or for a chicken.

One could work out the dosage for a human by comparing with the product made for humans, in the case of ivermectin, brand name Stromectol. I had left some eprinomectin cattle pour on at my mothers', last time I was over, & told her how to use it on her huskies, but I'm too worried to have my mother try to dose herself in case she gets it wrong.

I'm not sure systemic endectocides would kill all the mites for Aggi, because the mites are in her work environment (as well as at home?). While the mites which bit Aggi would probably die, there is still the possibility of the mites in the environment biting her colleagues, who are untreated, & thus the mites would survive.

Best wishesKrys

On 5 May 2011 20:46, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Aggi--

I've had to use veterinary meds on a number of occasions--my doctor has me starting injecting penicillin made for cattle for Lyme disease ... She says it is the same thing as human penicillin & so much cheaper. $15/bottle as opposed to hundreds. Will start when I get right sized syringes & needles.

Apparently so many people with Lyme now are getting full recovery with injecting self 3x per week. Saw LLD again last week for Lyme.

I would not hesitate to use Ivermectin again & order from vet supplies.

Sent from my iPod

On May 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, " Aggi " <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Krys,Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.

I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.

The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.

Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp. Take care,

Aggi

> > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a

> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from

> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > > >> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.

> > > >> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...

> > > >> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is> > just right back at the doorstep.> > > >> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever

> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.

> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,

> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees

> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> Where the otter whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through

> The misty solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woods….> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling

>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

May 6, 2011

I suspect that the immune compromised have the worst trouble with the mites and other insects as well. Years ago I had gone with my husband and son on a camping trip in North Dakota (Yellowstone and all over). We walked through a field with no path towards a river to observe beavers. I came back with over 40 ticks on me and neither of them had any ticks on them. I wish someone did research on that. But I think it might have to do with how well the body combats inflammation? Maybe.

Anyway, we were out again in the bush on Easter day and swarmed with mosquitoes by the hundreds. I had so many layers of clothing on they couldn't get me, but they sure tried. I have demodex mites, but the last time I went to the opthalmologist (2 weeks ago) she could not see any in my eyelashes. It seems there is a relationship between demodex and those who have rosacea. I had rosacea but was able to get rid of it with antibiotics. I also suspected demodex could possibly bite the eyeballs too. Demodex are known to wander on the body too, but most common on the face. They live in hair follicles as you probably know.

How's mama doing or have you spoken to her lately? Have a great week-end all. Happy Mother's day to all you mom's out there. It is a work day for us--we're having our electrical updated in the house on Monday (recessed lighting and other projects) so have to get things organized and cleared out.

Re: Re: New onslaught

It isn't necessarily straight forward to use veterinary medicines on humans without doctor's supervision. The dosage does not, necessarily, correspond kg to kg, due to differing metabolic rates. For instance dosage per kilo for a cow is probably not the same as for a dog, or for a human or for a chicken. One could work out the dosage for a human by comparing with the product made for humans, in the case of ivermectin, brand name Stromectol. I had left some eprinomectin cattle pour on at my mothers', last time I was over, & told her how to use it on her huskies, but I'm too worried to have my mother try to dose herself in case she gets it wrong. I'm not sure systemic endectocides would kill all the mites for Aggi, because the mites are in her work environment (as well as at home?). While the mites which bit Aggi would probably die, there is still the possibility of the mites in the environment biting her colleagues, who are untreated, & thus the mites would survive.Best wishesKrys

On 5 May 2011 20:46, goldstein <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Aggi--

I've had to use veterinary meds on a number of occasions--my doctor has me starting injecting penicillin made for cattle for Lyme disease ... She says it is the same thing as human penicillin & so much cheaper. $15/bottle as opposed to hundreds. Will start when I get right sized syringes & needles.

Apparently so many people with Lyme now are getting full recovery with injecting self 3x per week. Saw LLD again last week for Lyme.

I would not hesitate to use Ivermectin again & order from vet supplies.

Sent from my iPod

On May 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, "Aggi" <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

Hi Krys,Many thanks for your message. I've been researching about moxidectin which seems to be more effective than ivermectin, but both are prescribed by vets only. I could purchase it online as a gel, but then i wouldn't know about the doses as horses weigh round about 200 kg, compared to my 57 kilos... Besides, both meds are not available for humans in Germany. And that also proofs again that for the medical society infestations of humans apart from scabies do not exist.I am pretty certain that my problem is a bird mite. The entomologist of the University here has ID'd my sample as a blood-sucking mite, not clearly bird mite, but my misery started in the office, having a bird's nest right on top of the flat roof and when the birds fled the nest, they got in through the wide open window and started biting me.The office has been treated with pyrethrum 4 times to no avail and i just kept carrying them in my clothes into the car and new home i had just moved to. After about 1 year i noticed that due to the constant exposure they had infested my entire body, especially hair and scalp.Deerly sorry your mum has to live this nightmare. Hope you'll be able to finding something that gives her relief. I have decided to order the MMS for bathing to hopefully get them out of my scalp. Take care,Aggi> > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > After about 2 months of almost zero mite activity in the house i had a> > total onslaught again last night. Left me totally shocked, having a> > horrendous night, almost like in the beginning of my infestation.> > > > There has been a drastic wheather change, temperature dropped big time> > all of a sudden and i am wondering if that has triggered it. Also went from> > being totally dry to very humid and that might have been the reason why.> > > >> > > > So here i go again, covered in sulfur 8 conditioner on hair and scalp,> > > > repellent head to toe, menthol cream around nose, mouth and ears.> > > >> > > > For the past 8 weeks i was able to go to my DE-covered bed without> > anything on me, just like in my good old 'previous life'. Needless to say> > how happy i was. Now back to square one...> > > >> > > > I am running out of ideas folks and my old friend called depression is> > just right back at the doorstep.> > > >> > > > Maybe we should really collect some facts and figures. Has this ever> > been reported? Maybe we all have something in common. Is it known for> > example from all the people on this forum that was founded in 2007 i> > believe, how many have been cured of bird mites. Not many i suppose.> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > > -- > They shut the road through the woods> Seventy years ago.> Weather and rain have undone it again,> And now you would never know> There was once a road through the woods> Before they planted the trees.> It is underneath the coppice and heath,> And the thin anemones.> Only the keeper sees> That, where the ring-dove broods,> And the badgers roll at ease,> There was once a road through the woods.> > Yet, if you enter the woods> Of a summer evening late,> When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools> Where the otter whistles his mate.> (They fear not men in the woods,> Because they see so few)> You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,> And the swish of a skirt in the dew,> Steadily cantering through> The misty solitudes,> As though they perfectly knew> The old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.> But there is no road through the woods.> *> The Way Through the Woods* - Rudyard Kipling>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woodsâ€¦.But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

May 6, 2011

Hi , Hope you have a good weekend too. We had mothering Sunday a few weeks ago in UK (in Lent).Oh, I really, hate ticks. How horrid having 40 on you. That would have made me panic. I wonder why they were only on you, that is so odd.

Our three dogs we brought over from Britain got Lyme's disease. First my daughter's little Jack became ill & the vet couldn't save her, one boder collie died with a month & the other border collie dog was on antibiotics for months (he's still with us). We were so terribly sad, we hadn't really been aware of Lyme's disease & our ignorance caused them terrible suffering. We don't get many ticks in UK, I didn't know what they were at first. I used to panic & flick them away but I'm getting better about just picking them up & flushing them down the loo.

Thanks for asking after Mother. She phones me every day at the mo & I read the group's emails to her, tell her people do defeat the parasites & people do get better. It gives her hope; she was getting so distraught. She also felt very sad for Sandy's troubles.

She's thrown lots of her clothes away, sealed the rest in vinyl bag things after cleaing & she's getting her " shopping list " together, but has not obtained all the things yet. I tell her she could get the things at the chemists in town, but she's getting them from Amazon....even the baking powder.

Mother says she has rosacea; she says that's why she has some red broken veins on her cheeks. Is that so? If so, do you think there could be a link? I think she may also be run down with all the stress; I am getting her to take the vitamins & minerals designed for older people.

She said, today, she is having less trouble with her hair. She's been soaking in Epsom Salts every night, using neem shampoo, & permethrin cream in her hair, plus neem oil & Sudocrem on her body. her skin has become very dry, Sudocrem is pretty good for healing cuts & grazes but it is also used for nappy rash. It contains Zinc oxide, plus Benzyl alcohol (mild anasthetic, disinfectant), Benzyl benzoate (pesticide), Benzyl cinnamate (antibacterial, antifungal). It sounded to me like the Sudocrem might help, until she the sulphur arrives, but she says Sudocrem makes her feel like a " grease ball " . :~/

She says the neem makes the black specks come out more easily.Thanks for your helpKrys

On 6 May 2011 14:29, <Goldstein@...> wrote: