Re: Results of the move...

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Well you did it Cecilia! This is another real experiment, but feel you have such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now. Good for you! Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen.

Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia. This move was very brave. Starting over materially is such a huge thing.

How to diagnose?

"bird mites" <bird mites >Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the environment in the same way. I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white crystal things. I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of infestations. How does one diagnose which parasite?ThanksKrys-- I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tideIs a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. Sea Fever - Masefield

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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Very brave. Good luck. Best wishesKrysOn 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

 

Well you did it Cecilia!  This is another real experiment, but feel you have such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now.  Good for you!  Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen. 

 

Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia.  This move was very brave.  Starting over materially is such a huge thing.

 

How to diagnose?

" bird mites " <bird mites >

Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

 

It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae).

But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the environment in the same way.

I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following reasons:  She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white crystal things.  

I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of infestations. How does one diagnose which parasite?ThanksKrys-- I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,

And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.

I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tideIs a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. 

Sea Fever - Masefield

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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THanks for your support LInda! I appreciate it.

C

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 3:58:21 PMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

Well you did it Cecilia! This is another real experiment, but feel you have such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now. Good for you! Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen.

Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia. This move was very brave. Starting over materially is such a huge thing.

How to diagnose?

"bird mites" <bird mites >Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the environment in the same way. I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but they don't

burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white crystal things. I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of infestations. How does one diagnose which parasite?ThanksKrys-- I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tideIs a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.I must go down to the seas again, to the

vagrant gypsy life,To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. Sea Fever - Masefield

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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THanks Krys!

I really hope you find some relief for your mother!

C

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

Very brave. Good luck. Best wishesKrys

On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

Well you did it Cecilia! This is another real experiment, but feel you have such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now. Good for you! Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen.

Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia. This move was very brave. Starting over materially is such a huge thing.

How to diagnose?

"bird mites" <bird mites >Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the environment in the same way. I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but they don't

burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white crystal things. I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of infestations. How does one diagnose which parasite?ThanksKrys-- I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tideIs a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.I must go down to the seas again, to the

vagrant gypsy life,To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. Sea Fever - Masefield

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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I'm praying for you all!

From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>Subject: Results of the move...bird mites Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 8:00 AM

HI, all!

We moved this sunday. Brought NOTHING except credit cards and a key, that was thouroughly washed and then kept in a plastic bag of kisel/diatom earth for 2 days. We all showered in sulphur at a neutral place and threw away the clothes and took new ones on, thtat was brought to us. We also changed cars. We now live in a small appartment instead of our nice house that we sold cheap (because of the mites that the buers were told about).

We only have bought new things so that we can "survive".

We adults have no bites or sensations, our 8 year old has nothing, but the small one 1,5 years has some small lesions. THat could be something else, so please cross your fingers that it is. Cause losing your home and all your things is not a fun thing to do....if it results in still having the mites.. BUT if we get rid of it, it is well worth it!

Just wanted to let you know about our attempt and how it´s going.

JEnnifer! I know your move is getting closer and I really hope it will result in something good!

Take care all of you!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 1:51:58 AMSubject: Re: How to diagnose?

I read this Krys. Describes what I've been through to a "t" except that my condition has been accompanied by fibers. Thanks. Very interesting considering that this was identified back in the 50's--it is the same more or less.

How to diagnose?

"bird mites" <bird mites >Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the environment in the same way. I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but they don't

burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white crystal things. I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of infestations. How does one diagnose which parasite?ThanksKrys-- I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tideIs a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.I must go down to the seas again, to the

vagrant gypsy life,To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. Sea Fever - Masefield

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

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Hi Cecelia

I moved it, went great till I brought in a old omputer & tha bug flurished .

So sad. Cost me so much. I I sprayed & fogged for years killing the bug . I

helped. I don't het bit anymore

I powder everything now with baking soda so if a bug gets in it leaves or

dies in the higly caustic alkaline baking soda.

Baking soda helps so much , I bug can't live in it .

I put it in my boot sonce in a while & have no bites . My feet dry out so bad

I have to oil them w/ cococnut oil . I magine it dries out the bug & repels the

bug.

God bless you Ceceleis

,m

Bill

On Thu May 5th, 2011 3:52 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>THanks Krys!

>I really hope you find some relief for your mother!

>C

>

>

>

>

>________________________________

>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PM

>Subject: Re: Results of the move...

>

> 

>Very brave. Good luck.

>

>Best wishes

>Krys

>

>

>On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

>

> 

>>Well you did it Cecilia!  This is another real experiment, but feel you have

>>such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now.  Good for

you! 

>>Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen. 

>>

>> 

>>Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but

>>Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia.  This move was very brave.  Starting over

>>materially is such a huge thing.

>> 

>>

>>

>> How to diagnose?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> " bird mites " <bird mites >

>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> 

>>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need

to

>>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt

with in

>>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being

>>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae).

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is

a

>>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons

& have

>>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously,

only

>>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from

the

>>>>>>environment in the same way.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following

>>>>>>reasons:  She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above,

are

>>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood,

but

>>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have

more

>>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or

white

>>>>>>crystal things.  

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of

>>>>>>infestations.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Thanks

>>>>>>Krys

>>>>>>

>>>>>>--

>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,

>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,

>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,

>>>>>>And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.

>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide

>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;

>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,

>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,

>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted

>knife;

>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,

>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. 

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>--

>>>>They shut the road through the woods

>>>>Seventy years ago.

>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>>And now you would never know

>>>>There was once a road through the woods

>>>>Before they planted the trees.

>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>>>And the thin anemones.

>>>>Only the keeper sees

>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>>>

>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>>>Of a summer evening late,

>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>>>Because they see so few)

>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>>>Steadily cantering through

>>>>The misty solitudes,

>>>>As though they perfectly knew

>>>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>>

>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>>>

>>

>>

>>--

>>They shut the road through the woods

>>Seventy years ago.

>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>And now you would never know

>>There was once a road through the woods

>>Before they planted the trees.

>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>And the thin anemones.

>>Only the keeper sees

>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>

>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>Of a summer evening late,

>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>Because they see so few)

>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>Steadily cantering through

>>The misty solitudes,

>>As though they perfectly knew

>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>

>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>

>

>

>--

>They shut the road through the woods

>Seventy years ago.

>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>And now you would never know

>There was once a road through the woods

>Before they planted the trees.

>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>And the thin anemones.

>Only the keeper sees

>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>And the badgers roll at ease,

>There was once a road through the woods.

>

>Yet, if you enter the woods

>Of a summer evening late,

>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>(They fear not men in the woods,

>Because they see so few)

>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>Steadily cantering through

>The misty solitudes,

>As though they perfectly knew

>The old lost road through the woods….

>But there is no road through the woods.

>

>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bill!

We have put some things in a storage. HOw long did you wait until you brought an old computer in again. Cause what I´ve read it takes 9-10 months until you should be safe, cause the mmites can live that long without a meal. JUst wanted to know, so we don´t make any mistakes bringing that stuff in too early and get hit again, like you did. Apreciate your advice!

God bless you!Cecilia

From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 7:48:42 AMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

Hi CeceliaI moved it, went great till I brought in a old omputer & tha bug flurished . So sad. Cost me so much. I I sprayed & fogged for years killing the bug . I helped. I don't het bit anymoreI powder everything now with baking soda so if a bug gets in it leaves or dies in the higly caustic alkaline baking soda. Baking soda helps so much , I bug can't live in it . I put it in my boot sonce in a while & have no bites . My feet dry out so bad I have to oil them w/ cococnut oil . I magine it dries out the bug & repels the bug. God bless you Ceceleis,mBillOn Thu May 5th, 2011 3:52 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:>THanks Krys!>I really hope you find some relief for your mother!>C>>>>>________________________________>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PM>Subject: Re: Results of the move...>> >Very brave. Good luck. >>Best wishes>Krys>>>On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:>> >>Well you did it Cecilia! This is another real experiment, but feel you have >>such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now. Good for you! >>Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen.

>>>> >>Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but >>Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia. This move was very brave. Starting over >>materially is such a huge thing.>> >>>>>> How to diagnose?>>>>>>>>>>>>"bird mites" <bird mites >>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to >>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in >>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being >>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But,

since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a >>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have >>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only >>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the >>>>>>environment in the same way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following >>>>>>reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are >>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but >>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more

>>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white >>>>>>crystal things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of >>>>>>infestations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks>>>>>>Krys>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,>>>>>>And a grey mist on the

sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted >knife;>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. >>>>>>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>Seventy years ago.>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>>And now you would never know>>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>Before they planted the trees.>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>And the thin anemones.>>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>(They fear not

men in the woods,>>>>Because they see so few)>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>Steadily cantering through>>>>The misty solitudes,>>>>As though they perfectly knew>>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>>>>>>-- >>They shut the road through the woods>>Seventy years ago.>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>And now you would never know>>There was once a road through the woods>>Before they planted the trees.>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>And the thin anemones.>>Only the keeper

sees>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>Of a summer evening late,>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>Because they see so few)>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>Steadily cantering through>>The misty solitudes,>>As though they perfectly knew>>The old lost road through the woods….>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>-- >They shut the road through the woods>Seventy years ago.>Weather and rain have undone it again,>And

now you would never know>There was once a road through the woods>Before they planted the trees.>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>And the thin anemones.>Only the keeper sees>That, where the ring-dove broods,>And the badgers roll at ease,>There was once a road through the woods.>>Yet, if you enter the woods>Of a summer evening late,>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>Where the otter whistles his mate.>(They fear not men in the woods,>Because they see so few)>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>Steadily cantering through>The misty solitudes,>As though they perfectly knew>The old lost road through the woods….>But there is no road through the woods. >>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling>

[Guest guest]

THanks, !

C

From: Benton <sarahbenton48@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 10:38:00 PMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

I'm praying for you all!

From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>Subject: Results of the move...bird mites Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 8:00 AM

HI, all!

We moved this sunday. Brought NOTHING except credit cards and a key, that was thouroughly washed and then kept in a plastic bag of kisel/diatom earth for 2 days. We all showered in sulphur at a neutral place and threw away the clothes and took new ones on, thtat was brought to us. We also changed cars. We now live in a small appartment instead of our nice house that we sold cheap (because of the mites that the buers were told about).

We only have bought new things so that we can "survive".

We adults have no bites or sensations, our 8 year old has nothing, but the small one 1,5 years has some small lesions. THat could be something else, so please cross your fingers that it is. Cause losing your home and all your things is not a fun thing to do....if it results in still having the mites.. BUT if we get rid of it, it is well worth it!

Just wanted to let you know about our attempt and how it´s going.

JEnnifer! I know your move is getting closer and I really hope it will result in something good!

Take care all of you!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 1:51:58 AMSubject: Re: How to diagnose?

I read this Krys. Describes what I've been through to a "t" except that my condition has been accompanied by fibers. Thanks. Very interesting considering that this was identified back in the 50's--it is the same more or less.

How to diagnose?

"bird mites" <bird mites >Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the environment in the same way. I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but they don't

burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white crystal things. I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of infestations. How does one diagnose which parasite?ThanksKrys-- I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tideIs a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.I must go down to the seas again, to the

vagrant gypsy life,To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. Sea Fever - Masefield

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecilia,The length of time bird mites can survive without a host depend upon the type of mite. D.gallinae lives mostly off the host, hiding in dark cracks

& crevices during daylight hours, preferring to feed at night; not all leave host during day. O.sylvarium lives mostly on the host; will feed day or night.

The red poultry mite, D.gallinae, can live for a very long time without feeding. Opinions seem to vary; the longest I've read is 10 months. The northern fowl mite, O.sylvarium does not live as long without feeding, again times vary according to source, longest I've read, about two months.

Best wishesKrysOn 6 May 2011 05:31, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

 

Dear Bill!

We have put some things in a storage. HOw long did you wait until you brought an old computer in again. Cause what I´ve read it takes 9-10 months until you should be safe, cause the mmites can live that long without a meal. JUst wanted to know, so we don´t make any mistakes bringing that stuff in too early and get hit again, like you did. Apreciate your advice!

God bless you!Cecilia

From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites

Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 7:48:42 AMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

 

Hi CeceliaI moved it, went great till I brought in a old omputer & tha bug flurished . So sad. Cost me so much. I I sprayed & fogged for years killing the bug . I helped. I don't het bit anymore

I powder everything now with baking soda so if a bug gets in it leaves or dies in the higly caustic alkaline baking soda. Baking soda helps so much , I bug can't live in it . I put it in my boot sonce in a while & have no bites . My feet dry out so bad I have to oil them w/ cococnut oil . I magine it dries out the bug & repels the bug.

God bless you Ceceleis,mBillOn Thu May 5th, 2011 3:52 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:>THanks Krys!>I really hope you find some relief for your mother!>C>>>

>>________________________________>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>>bird mites

>Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PM>Subject: Re: Results of the move...>>  >Very brave. Good luck. >>Best wishes>Krys>>>On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

>>  >>Well you did it Cecilia!  This is another real experiment, but feel you have >>such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now.  Good for you!  >>Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen. 

>>>> >>Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but >>Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia.  This move was very brave.  Starting over >>materially is such a huge thing.

>> >>>>>> How to diagnose?

>>>>>>>>>>>> " bird mites " <bird mites >>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to

>>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in >>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being

>>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But,

since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a >>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have >>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only

>>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the >>>>>>environment in the same way. >>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following

>>>>>>reasons:  She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are >>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but >>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more

>>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white >>>>>>crystal things.   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of

>>>>>>infestations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks

>>>>>>Krys>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,

>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,>>>>>>And a grey mist on the

sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;

>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,

>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted >knife;>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. 

>>>>>>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>Seventy years ago.>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>>And now you would never know>>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>Before they planted the trees.>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>And the thin anemones.

>>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>

>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>(They fear not

men in the woods,>>>>Because they see so few)>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>Steadily cantering through

>>>>The misty solitudes,>>>>As though they perfectly knew>>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>

>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>>>>>>-- >>They shut the road through the woods>>Seventy years ago.>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>And now you would never know>>There was once a road through the woods>>Before they planted the trees.>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>And the thin anemones.>>Only the keeper

sees>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>Of a summer evening late,

>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>Because they see so few)>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>Steadily cantering through>>The misty solitudes,>>As though they perfectly knew>>The old lost road through the woods….>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>-- >They shut the road through the woods>Seventy years ago.>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>And

now you would never know>There was once a road through the woods>Before they planted the trees.>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>And the thin anemones.>Only the keeper sees>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>And the badgers roll at ease,>There was once a road through the woods.>>Yet, if you enter the woods>Of a summer evening late,>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>(They fear not men in the woods,>Because they see so few)>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>Steadily cantering through>The misty solitudes,

>As though they perfectly knew>The old lost road through the woods….>But there is no road through the woods. >>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling>

-- They shut the road through the woods

Seventy years ago.

Weather and rain have undone it again,

And now you would never know

There was once a road through the woods

Before they planted the trees.

It is underneath the coppice and heath,

And the thin anemones.

Only the keeper sees

That, where the ring-dove broods,

And the badgers roll at ease,

There was once a road through the woods.

Yet, if you enter the woods

Of a summer evening late,

When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

Where the otter whistles his mate.

(They fear not men in the woods,

Because they see so few)

You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

Steadily cantering through

The misty solitudes,

As though they perfectly knew

The old lost road through the woods….

But there is no road through the woods.

The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecilia,

Please be careful bringing things back in too soon. There were people here on the forum who went back to the storage places and even got bit after 12 months.

Apart from that I am still crossing my fingers ! The best of luck to you and your family. Hope all turns out perfectly well !!

Warm Hugs,

Aggi --- Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> schrieb am Fr, 6.5.2011:

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>Betreff: Re: Results of the move...An: bird mites Datum: Freitag, 6. Mai, 2011 12:31 Uhr

Dear Bill!

We have put some things in a storage. HOw long did you wait until you brought an old computer in again. Cause what I´ve read it takes 9-10 months until you should be safe, cause the mmites can live that long without a meal. JUst wanted to know, so we don´t make any mistakes bringing that stuff in too early and get hit again, like you did. Apreciate your advice!

God bless you!Cecilia

From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 7:48:42 AMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

Hi CeceliaI moved it, went great till I brought in a old omputer & tha bug flurished . So sad. Cost me so much. I I sprayed & fogged for years killing the bug . I helped. I don't het bit anymoreI powder everything now with baking soda so if a bug gets in it leaves or dies in the higly caustic alkaline baking soda. Baking soda helps so much , I bug can't live in it . I put it in my boot sonce in a while & have no bites . My feet dry out so bad I have to oil them w/ cococnut oil . I magine it dries out the bug & repels the bug. God bless you Ceceleis,mBillOn Thu May 5th, 2011 3:52 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:>THanks Krys!>I really hope you find some relief for your mother!>C>>>>>________________________________>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PM>Subject: Re: Results of the move...>> >Very brave. Good luck. >>Best wishes>Krys>>>On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:>> >>Well you did it Cecilia! This is another real experiment, but feel you have >>such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now. Good for you!

>>Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen. >>>> >>Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but >>Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia. This move was very brave. Starting over >>materially is such a huge thing.>> >>>>>> How to diagnose?>>>>>>>>>>>>"bird mites" <bird mites >>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to >>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in >>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being >>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a >>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have

>>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only >>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the >>>>>>environment in the same way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following >>>>>>reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are >>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but >>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more >>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white >>>>>>crystal things.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of >>>>>>infestations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks>>>>>>Krys>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,>>>>>>And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide>>>>>>Is a

wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted >knife;>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. >>>>>>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>Seventy years ago.>>>>Weather and rain

have undone it again,>>>>And now you would never know>>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>Before they planted the trees.>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>And the thin anemones.>>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>>>Because they see so few)>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>Steadily

cantering through>>>>The misty solitudes,>>>>As though they perfectly knew>>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>>>>>>-- >>They shut the road through the woods>>Seventy years ago.>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>And now you would never know>>There was once a road through the woods>>Before they planted the trees.>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>And the thin anemones.>>Only the keeper sees>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>Of a summer evening

late,>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>Because they see so few)>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>Steadily cantering through>>The misty solitudes,>>As though they perfectly knew>>The old lost road through the woods….>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>-- >They shut the road through the woods>Seventy years ago.>Weather and rain have undone it again,>And now you would never know>There was once a road through the woods>Before they planted the trees.>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>And the thin anemones.>Only the keeper

sees>That, where the ring-dove broods,>And the badgers roll at ease,>There was once a road through the woods.>>Yet, if you enter the woods>Of a summer evening late,>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>Where the otter whistles his mate.>(They fear not men in the woods,>Because they see so few)>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>Steadily cantering through>The misty solitudes,>As though they perfectly knew>The old lost road through the woods….>But there is no road through the woods. >>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>

[Guest guest]

Cecilia has a steam press too, so any fabric that was stored could been hot steamed. This kills everything in fabric, if the fabric can tolerate the heat. For synthetics I put a thin towel over the fabric and steamed away... with other things that are not fabric it is more of a problem.

How to diagnose?>>>>>>>>>>>>"bird mites" <bird mites >>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to >>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in >>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being >>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a >>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have >>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only >>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the >>>>>>environment in the same way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following >>>>>>reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are >>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but >>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more >>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white >>>>>>crystal things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of >>>>>>infestations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks>>>>>>Krys>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,>>>>>>And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted >knife;>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. >>>>>>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>Seventy years ago.>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>>And now you would never know>>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>Before they planted the trees.>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>And the thin anemones.>>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>>>Because they see so few)>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>Steadily cantering through>>>>The misty solitudes,>>>>As though they perfectly knew>>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>>>>>>-- >>They shut the road through the woods>>Seventy years ago.>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>And now you would never know>>There was once a road through the woods>>Before they planted the trees.>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>And the thin anemones.>>Only the keeper sees>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>Of a summer evening late,>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>Because they see so few)>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>Steadily cantering through>>The misty solitudes,>>As though they perfectly knew>>The old lost road through the woods….>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>-- >They shut the road through the woods>Seventy years ago.>Weather and rain have undone it again,>And now you would never know>There was once a road through the woods>Before they planted the trees.>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>And the thin anemones.>Only the keeper sees>That, where the ring-dove broods,>And the badgers roll at ease,>There was once a road through the woods.>>Yet, if you enter the woods>Of a summer evening late,>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>Where the otter whistles his mate.>(They fear not men in the woods,>Because they see so few)>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>Steadily cantering through>The misty solitudes,>As though they perfectly knew>The old lost road through the woods….>But there is no road through the woods. >>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecelia

I waited a long time , I had a truck full of the bugs that I left 1 year &

still got bit up going in to the truck

But ! Skf, a lady that used the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent on

everything & got to keep most of her Stuff. She sprayed it on everything , &

left the a & h on at 1 cup per gallon. Then when she moved, she put everything

outside so the bug could crawl off . She was bugless in her new apt , for 1

year then got lonely & went back to her husband & the original bug house & is

fine still .

God bless you ,

Bill

110:1 (A

Psalm of .) The LORD said unto my Lord,

Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst

of thine enemies. 3 Thy people [shall be] willing in the day of thy power, in

the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy

youth

:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. Jesus is Lord of All l:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.

`,,`,,`

.... __/ /\____ ____

, o`,/__/ _/\_ //____/\

```)( | | | | | | | || |l |

,.- ,.-~~-., `-. :

As forme and my house,

We will serve YHWH!

,,`,,``

(Mat 27:40

50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51

And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the

bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were

opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the

graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto

many. 54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus,

saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly,

saying, Truly this was the Son of God. 55 And many women were there beholding

afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee,

Psalm 68:18

18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast

received gifts for men; yea, [for] the rebellious also, that the LORD God might

dwell [among them]. 19 Blessed [be] the Lord, [who] daily loadeth us [with

benefits, even] the God of our salvation. Selah.

that I still

On Fri May 6th, 2011 6:31 AM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>Dear Bill!

>We have put some things in a storage. HOw long did you wait until you brought

an

>old computer in again. Cause what I´ve read it takes 9-10 months until you

>should be safe, cause the mmites can live that long without a meal. JUst wanted

>to know, so we don´t make any mistakes bringing that stuff in too early and

get

>hit again, like you did. Apreciate your advice!

>God bless you!

>Cecilia

>

>

>

>

>________________________________

>From: Doe <doe1769@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 7:48:42 AM

>Subject: Re: Results of the move...

>

> 

>Hi Cecelia

>

>I moved it, went great till I brought in a old omputer & tha bug flurished . So

>sad. Cost me so much. I I sprayed & fogged for years killing the bug . I

helped.

>I don't het bit anymore

>I powder everything now with baking soda so if a bug gets in it leaves or dies

>in the higly caustic alkaline baking soda.

>

>

>Baking soda helps so much , I bug can't live in it .

>I put it in my boot sonce in a while & have no bites . My feet dry out so bad I

>have to oil them w/ cococnut oil . I magine it dries out the bug & repels the

>bug.

>

>

>God bless you Ceceleis

>

>,m

>Bill

>

>On Thu May 5th, 2011 3:52 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>

>>THanks Krys!

>>I really hope you find some relief for your mother!

>>C

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>________________________________

>>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PM

>>Subject: Re: Results of the move...

>>

>> 

>>Very brave. Good luck.

>>

>>Best wishes

>>Krys

>>

>>

>>On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

>>

>> 

>>>Well you did it Cecilia!  This is another real experiment, but feel you have

>>>such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now.  Good for

you! 

>>>

>>>Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen. 

>>>

>>> 

>>>Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but

>>>Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia.  This move was very brave.  Starting

over

>>>materially is such a huge thing.

>>> 

>>>

>>>

>>> How to diagnose?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> " bird mites " <bird mites >

>>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I

need to

>>>>

>>>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt

with in

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being

>>>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is

a

>>

>>>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons

& have

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously,

only

>>>>

>>>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed

from the

>>>>>

>>>>>>>environment in the same way.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the

following

>

>>>>>>>reasons:  She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above,

are

>

>>>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood,

but

>>>>

>>>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have

more

>>

>>>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or

white

>>

>>>>>>>crystal things.  

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread

of

>

>>>>>>>infestations.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Thanks

>>>>>>>Krys

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,

>>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,

>>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,

>>>>>>>And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.

>>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide

>>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;

>>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,

>>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

>>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,

>>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted

>>knife;

>>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,

>>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. 

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>--

>>>>>They shut the road through the woods

>>>>>Seventy years ago.

>>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>>>And now you would never know

>>>>>There was once a road through the woods

>>>>>Before they planted the trees.

>>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>>>>And the thin anemones.

>>>>>Only the keeper sees

>>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>>>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>>>>

>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>>>>Of a summer evening late,

>>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>>>>Because they see so few)

>>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>>>>Steadily cantering through

>>>>>The misty solitudes,

>>>>>As though they perfectly knew

>>>>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>>>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>>>

>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>--

>>>They shut the road through the woods

>>>Seventy years ago.

>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>And now you would never know

>>>There was once a road through the woods

>>>Before they planted the trees.

>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>>And the thin anemones.

>>>Only the keeper sees

>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>>

>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>>Of a summer evening late,

>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>>Because they see so few)

>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>>Steadily cantering through

>>>The misty solitudes,

>>>As though they perfectly knew

>>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>

>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>>

>>

>>

>>--

>>They shut the road through the woods

>>Seventy years ago.

>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>And now you would never know

>>There was once a road through the woods

>>Before they planted the trees.

>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>And the thin anemones.

>>Only the keeper sees

>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>

>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>Of a summer evening late,

>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>Because they see so few)

>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>Steadily cantering through

>>The misty solitudes,

>>As though they perfectly knew

>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>

>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear BIll!

Oh!, so you still got it after leaving stuff for 1 year! We thougt of leaving the stuff for one year to pick it up then, cause I did read that the mites live maximum 9-10 months without a meal. THat might not be a good idea then, cuase if we get it back it´s definately not worth it! We don´t have arm and hammer here, so that is unfortunately no option... Thanks for telling!

Cecilia

From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 12:55:34 AMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

Hi CeceliaI waited a long time , I had a truck full of the bugs that I left 1 year & still got bit up going in to the truck But ! Skf, a lady that used the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent on everything & got to keep most of her Stuff. She sprayed it on everything , & left the a & h on at 1 cup per gallon. Then when she moved, she put everything outside so the bug could crawl off . She was bugless in her new apt , for 1 year then got lonely & went back to her husband & the original bug house & is fine still . God bless you , Bill110:1 (APsalm of .) The LORD said unto my Lord,Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. 3 Thy people [shall be] willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast

the dew of thy youth:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. Jesus is Lord of All l:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.`,,`,,`... __/ /\____ ____ , o`,/__/ _/\_ //____/\```)( | | | | | | | || |l |,.- ,.-~~-., `-. :As forme and my house, We will serve YHWH! ,,`,,``(Mat 27:4050 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. 54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. 55 And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from

Galilee,Psalm 68:18 18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, [for] the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell [among them]. 19 Blessed [be] the Lord, [who] daily loadeth us [with benefits, even] the God of our salvation. Selah. that I stillOn Fri May 6th, 2011 6:31 AM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:>Dear Bill!>We have put some things in a storage. HOw long did you wait until you brought an >old computer in again. Cause what I´ve read it takes 9-10 months until you >should be safe, cause the mmites can live that long without a meal. JUst wanted >to know, so we don´t make any mistakes bringing that stuff in too early and get >hit again, like you did. Apreciate your advice!>God bless you!>Cecilia>>>>>________________________________>From: Doe <doe1769@...>>bird mites >Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 7:48:42 AM>Subject: Re: Results of the move...>> >Hi Cecelia>>I moved it, went great till I brought in a old omputer & tha bug flurished . So >sad. Cost me so much. I I sprayed & fogged for years killing the bug . I helped. >I don't het bit anymore>I powder everything now with baking soda so if a bug gets in it leaves or dies >in the higly caustic alkaline baking soda. >>>Baking soda helps so much , I bug can't live in it . >I put it in my boot sonce in a while & have no bites . My feet dry out so bad I

>have to oil them w/ cococnut oil . I magine it dries out the bug & repels the >bug. >>>God bless you Ceceleis>>,m>Bill>>On Thu May 5th, 2011 3:52 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:>>>THanks Krys!>>I really hope you find some relief for your mother!>>C>>>>>>>>>>________________________________>>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>>>bird mites >>Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PM>>Subject: Re: Results of the move...>>>> >>Very brave. Good luck.

>>>>Best wishes>>Krys>>>>>>On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:>>>> >>>Well you did it Cecilia! This is another real experiment, but feel you have >>>such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now. Good for you! >>>>>>Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen. >>>>>> >>>Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but >>>Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia. This move was very brave. Starting over >>>materially is such a huge thing.>>> >>>>>>>>>-----

Original Message ----->>>From: "Cecilia Borg" <ceciliaborg@...>>>>bird mites >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2011 1:00:05 AM>>>Subject: Results of the move...>>>>>> >>>HI, all!>>>We moved this sunday. Brought NOTHING except credit cards and a key, that was >>>thouroughly washed and then kept in a plastic bag of kisel/diatom earth for 2 >>>days. We all showered in sulphur at a neutral place and threw away the clothes >>>>and took new ones on, thtat was brought to us. We also changed cars. We now live

>>>>>>in a small appartment instead of our nice house that we sold cheap (because of >>>>the mites that the buers were told about). >>>>>>We only have bought new things so that we can "survive". >>>We adults have no bites or sensations, our 8 year old has nothing, but the small >>>>>>one 1,5 years has some small lesions. THat could be something else, so please >>>cross your fingers that it is. Cause losing your home and all your things is not >>>>>>a fun thing to do....if it results in still having the mites.. BUT if we get rid >>>>>>of it, it is well worth it!>>>Just wanted to let you know about our attempt and how it´s going.>>>JEnnifer! I know your move is getting closer and I really hope it will result in >>>>>>something

good!>>>>>>Take care all of you!>>>>>>Cecilia>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>________________________________>>From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>>>>bird mites >>>Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 1:51:58 AM>>>Subject: Re: How to diagnose?>>>>>> >>>I read this Krys. Describes what I've been through to a "t" except

that my >>>condition has been accompanied by fibers. Thanks. Very interesting considering >>>>>>that this was identified back in the 50's--it is the same more or less. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How to diagnose?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"bird mites" <bird mites >>>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to >>>>>>>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being >>>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae).

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a >>>>>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only >>>>>>>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the >>>>>>>>>>>>environment in the same way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following >>>>>>>>reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are

>>>>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but >>>>>>>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more >>>>>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white >>>>>>>>>crystal things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of >>>>>>>>infestations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which

parasite?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks>>>>>>>Krys>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,>>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,>>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,>>>>>>>And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.>>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide>>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;>>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,>>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.>>>>>>>I

must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,>>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted >>knife;>>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,>>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>>Seventy years ago.>>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>>>And now you would never know>>>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>>Before they planted the

trees.>>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>>And the thin anemones.>>>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>>>>Because they see so few)>>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>>Steadily cantering through>>>>>The misty solitudes,>>>>>As though they perfectly

knew>>>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>They shut the road through the woods>>>Seventy years ago.>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>And now you would never know>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>Before they planted the trees.>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>And the thin anemones.>>>Only the keeper sees>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>Of a summer evening

late,>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>>Because they see so few)>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>Steadily cantering through>>>The misty solitudes,>>>As though they perfectly knew>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>>>>>-- >>They shut the road through the woods>>Seventy years ago.>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>And now you would never know>>There was once a road through the woods>>Before they planted the trees.>>It is

underneath the coppice and heath,>>And the thin anemones.>>Only the keeper sees>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>Of a summer evening late,>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>Because they see so few)>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>Steadily cantering through>>The misty solitudes,>>As though they perfectly knew>>The old lost road through the woods….>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling>>>>

[Guest guest]

HI, ! Happy mothers day to you too!

THe steam press was so good, but we threw it when we moved, just like allmost everything else, except really valuable personal stuff. So maby we´ll bhave to buy a new one. Right now we can´t afford it though after the expensive move, but maby later on.

Take care!Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 9:18:08 PMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

Cecilia has a steam press too, so any fabric that was stored could been hot steamed. This kills everything in fabric, if the fabric can tolerate the heat. For synthetics I put a thin towel over the fabric and steamed away... with other things that are not fabric it is more of a problem.

How to diagnose?>>>>>>>>>>>>"bird mites" <bird mites >>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to >>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in >>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being >>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But, since

researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a >>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have >>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only >>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the >>>>>>environment in the same way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following >>>>>>reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are >>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but >>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more >>>>>>delicate

skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white >>>>>>crystal things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of >>>>>>infestations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks>>>>>>Krys>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,>>>>>>And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn

breaking.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted >knife;>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. >>>>>>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>Seventy years ago.>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>>And now you would never know>>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>Before they planted the trees.>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>And the thin anemones.>>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>(They fear not

men in the woods,>>>>Because they see so few)>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>Steadily cantering through>>>>The misty solitudes,>>>>As though they perfectly knew>>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>>>>>>-- >>They shut the road through the woods>>Seventy years ago.>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>And now you would never know>>There was once a road through the woods>>Before they planted the trees.>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>And the thin anemones.>>Only the keeper

sees>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>Of a summer evening late,>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>Because they see so few)>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>Steadily cantering through>>The misty solitudes,>>As though they perfectly knew>>The old lost road through the woods….>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>-- >They shut the road through the woods>Seventy years ago.>Weather and rain have undone it again,>And

now you would never know>There was once a road through the woods>Before they planted the trees.>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>And the thin anemones.>Only the keeper sees>That, where the ring-dove broods,>And the badgers roll at ease,>There was once a road through the woods.>>Yet, if you enter the woods>Of a summer evening late,>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>Where the otter whistles his mate.>(They fear not men in the woods,>Because they see so few)>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>Steadily cantering through>The misty solitudes,>As though they perfectly knew>The old lost road through the woods….>But there is no road through the woods. >>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling>

[Guest guest]

HI, Aggi!

Thanks for your warning. I guess it would be stupid to bring those stored things back even after a year... Maby have to throw that as well... It is just that it is personal stuff from my parents that are not alive anymore...And my husband has some things he didn´t want to part from, so I let him put it in stroage rather than bringing it with us....Are you better? I really hope so. Still no bites or sensations on me, husband or 8 year old after one week! THe small 1,5 year old has some lesions (very small), but that is hopefully something else...

Hugs to you !

Cecilia

From: Aggi Assmann <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 6:03:43 PMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

Hi Cecilia,

Please be careful bringing things back in too soon. There were people here on the forum who went back to the storage places and even got bit after 12 months.

Apart from that I am still crossing my fingers ! The best of luck to you and your family. Hope all turns out perfectly well !!

Warm Hugs,

Aggi --- Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> schrieb am Fr, 6.5.2011:

Von: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>Betreff: Re: Results of the move...An: bird mites Datum: Freitag, 6. Mai, 2011 12:31 Uhr

Dear Bill!

We have put some things in a storage. HOw long did you wait until you brought an old computer in again. Cause what I´ve read it takes 9-10 months until you should be safe, cause the mmites can live that long without a meal. JUst wanted to know, so we don´t make any mistakes bringing that stuff in too early and get hit again, like you did. Apreciate your advice!

God bless you!Cecilia

From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 7:48:42 AMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

Hi CeceliaI moved it, went great till I brought in a old omputer & tha bug flurished . So sad. Cost me so much. I I sprayed & fogged for years killing the bug . I helped. I don't het bit anymoreI powder everything now with baking soda so if a bug gets in it leaves or dies in the higly caustic alkaline baking soda. Baking soda helps so much , I bug can't live in it . I put it in my boot sonce in a while & have no bites . My feet dry out so bad I have to oil them w/ cococnut oil . I magine it dries out the bug & repels the bug. God bless you Ceceleis,mBillOn Thu May 5th, 2011 3:52 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:>THanks Krys!>I really hope you find some relief for your mother!>C>>>>>________________________________>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PM>Subject: Re: Results of the move...>> >Very brave. Good luck. >>Best wishes>Krys>>>On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:>> >>Well you did it Cecilia! This is another real experiment, but feel you have >>such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now. Good for you! >>Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen. >>>> >>Sunday here in the US is

Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but >>Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia. This move was very brave. Starting over >>materially is such a huge thing.>> >>>>>> How to diagnose?>>>>>>>>>>>>"bird mites" <bird mites >>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to >>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in >>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being >>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But, since

researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a >>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have >>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only >>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the >>>>>>environment in the same way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following >>>>>>reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are >>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but >>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more >>>>>>delicate

skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white >>>>>>crystal things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of >>>>>>infestations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks>>>>>>Krys>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,>>>>>>And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn

breaking.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted >knife;>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. >>>>>>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>Seventy years ago.>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>>And now you would never know>>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>Before they planted the trees.>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>And the thin anemones.>>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>(They fear not

men in the woods,>>>>Because they see so few)>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>Steadily cantering through>>>>The misty solitudes,>>>>As though they perfectly knew>>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>>>>>>-- >>They shut the road through the woods>>Seventy years ago.>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>And now you would never know>>There was once a road through the woods>>Before they planted the trees.>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>And the thin anemones.>>Only the keeper

sees>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>Of a summer evening late,>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>Because they see so few)>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>Steadily cantering through>>The misty solitudes,>>As though they perfectly knew>>The old lost road through the woods….>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>-- >They shut the road through the woods>Seventy years ago.>Weather and rain have undone it again,>And

now you would never know>There was once a road through the woods>Before they planted the trees.>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>And the thin anemones.>Only the keeper sees>That, where the ring-dove broods,>And the badgers roll at ease,>There was once a road through the woods.>>Yet, if you enter the woods>Of a summer evening late,>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>Where the otter whistles his mate.>(They fear not men in the woods,>Because they see so few)>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>Steadily cantering through>The misty solitudes,>As though they perfectly knew>The old lost road through the woods….>But there is no road through the woods. >>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling>

[Guest guest]

THank you so much for your info Krys! I have seen the same with 9-10 months. Unfortunately we never found any mites, "only" got dermatologists to tell us it was birdmite bites on the whole family and also tha black specks in our beds etc. Because of that we don´t know what mite it is. Thought it would be safe after 1 year, but see here that others has had problems even after that.

How is your mother doing?

Take care adn you are such a nice man encouraging your mother and trying to help her!

Cecilia

From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 2:10:16 PMSubject: Re: Results of the move...

Hi Cecilia,The length of time bird mites can survive without a host depend upon the type of mite. D.gallinae lives mostly off the host, hiding in dark cracks & crevices during daylight hours, preferring to feed at night; not all leave host during day. O.sylvarium lives mostly on the host; will feed day or night. The red poultry mite, D.gallinae, can live for a very long time without feeding. Opinions seem to vary; the longest I've read is 10 months. The northern fowl mite, O.sylvarium does not live as long without feeding, again times vary according to source, longest I've read, about two months. Best wishesKrys

On 6 May 2011 05:31, Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...> wrote:

Dear Bill!

We have put some things in a storage. HOw long did you wait until you brought an old computer in again. Cause what I´ve read it takes 9-10 months until you should be safe, cause the mmites can live that long without a meal. JUst wanted to know, so we don´t make any mistakes bringing that stuff in too early and get hit again, like you did. Apreciate your advice!

God bless you!Cecilia

From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 7:48:42 AM

Subject: Re: Results of the move...

Hi CeceliaI moved it, went great till I brought in a old omputer & tha bug flurished . So sad. Cost me so much. I I sprayed & fogged for years killing the bug . I helped. I don't het bit anymoreI powder everything now with baking soda so if a bug gets in it leaves or dies in the higly caustic alkaline baking soda. Baking soda helps so much , I bug can't live in it . I put it in my boot sonce in a while & have no bites . My feet dry out so bad I have to oil them w/ cococnut oil . I magine it dries out the bug & repels the bug. God bless you Ceceleis,mBillOn Thu May 5th, 2011 3:52 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:>THanks Krys!>I really hope you find some relief for your mother!>C>>>>>________________________________>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>>bird mites >Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PM>Subject: Re: Results of the move...>> >Very brave. Good luck. >>Best wishes>Krys>>>On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:>> >>Well you did it Cecilia! This is another real experiment, but feel you have >>such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now. Good for you! >>Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen.

>>>> >>Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but >>Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia. This move was very brave. Starting over >>materially is such a huge thing.>> >>>>>> How to diagnose?>>>>>>>>>>>>"bird mites" <bird mites >>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I need to >>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt with in >>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being >>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>But,

since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there is a >>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, & Morgellons & have >>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously, only >>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed from the >>>>>>environment in the same way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the following >>>>>>reasons: She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above, are >>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck blood, but >>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have more

>>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or white >>>>>>crystal things. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread of >>>>>>infestations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks>>>>>>Krys>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,>>>>>>And a grey mist on the

sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted >knife;>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. >>>>>>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>They shut the road through the woods>>>>Seventy years ago.>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>>>And now you would never know>>>>There was once a road through the woods>>>>Before they planted the trees.>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>>>And the thin anemones.>>>>Only the keeper sees>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>>>Of a summer evening late,>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>>>(They fear not

men in the woods,>>>>Because they see so few)>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>>>Steadily cantering through>>>>The misty solitudes,>>>>As though they perfectly knew>>>>The old lost road through the woods….>>>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>>>>>>-- >>They shut the road through the woods>>Seventy years ago.>>Weather and rain have undone it again,>>And now you would never know>>There was once a road through the woods>>Before they planted the trees.>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>>And the thin anemones.>>Only the keeper

sees>>That, where the ring-dove broods,>>And the badgers roll at ease,>>There was once a road through the woods.>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods>>Of a summer evening late,>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>>Where the otter whistles his mate.>>(They fear not men in the woods,>>Because they see so few)>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>>Steadily cantering through>>The misty solitudes,>>As though they perfectly knew>>The old lost road through the woods….>>But there is no road through the woods. >>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling>>>>>-- >They shut the road through the woods>Seventy years ago.>Weather and rain have undone it again,>And

now you would never know>There was once a road through the woods>Before they planted the trees.>It is underneath the coppice and heath,>And the thin anemones.>Only the keeper sees>That, where the ring-dove broods,>And the badgers roll at ease,>There was once a road through the woods.>>Yet, if you enter the woods>Of a summer evening late,>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools>Where the otter whistles his mate.>(They fear not men in the woods,>Because they see so few)>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,>Steadily cantering through>The misty solitudes,>As though they perfectly knew>The old lost road through the woods….>But there is no road through the woods. >>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard

Kipling>

-- They shut the road through the woodsSeventy years ago.Weather and rain have undone it again,And now you would never knowThere was once a road through the woodsBefore they planted the trees.It is underneath the coppice and heath,And the thin anemones.Only the keeper seesThat, where the ring-dove broods,And the badgers roll at ease,There was once a road through the woods.Yet, if you enter the woodsOf a summer evening late,When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed poolsWhere the otter whistles his mate.(They fear not men in the woods,Because they see so few)You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,And the swish of a skirt in the dew,Steadily cantering throughThe misty solitudes,As though they perfectly knewThe old lost road through the woods….But there is no

road through the woods. The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecilia,

I guess if i did a step like you did, i wouldn't dare bringing anything back in.

All that materialistic stuff is nothing in comparison to peace and health. This

one just can't buy... ;-)

So much hope your little one has not been marked as a host. Then it would all

start from the beginning. Let's think pink as usual !!

Big hug

Aggi

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Subject: How to diagnose?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> " bird mites " <bird mites >

> >>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> 

> >>>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I

need to

> >>>>

> >>>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are

dealt with in

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being

> >>>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae).

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there

is a

> >>

> >>>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, &

Morgellons & have

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had,

previously, only

> >>>>

> >>>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed

from the

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>>environment in the same way.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the

following

> >

> >>>>>>>reasons:  She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above,

are

> >

> >>>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck

blood, but

> >>>>

> >>>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have

more

> >>

> >>>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or

white

> >>

> >>>>>>>crystal things.  

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread

of

> >

> >>>>>>>infestations.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Thanks

> >>>>>>>Krys

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>--

> >>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,

> >>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,

> >>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,

> >>>>>>>And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.

> >>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide

> >>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;

> >>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,

> >>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

> >>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,

> >>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted

> >>knife;

> >>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,

> >>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. 

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>--

> >>>>>They shut the road through the woods

> >>>>>Seventy years ago.

> >>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>>>And now you would never know

> >>>>>There was once a road through the woods

> >>>>>Before they planted the trees.

> >>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>>>And the thin anemones.

> >>>>>Only the keeper sees

> >>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>>>There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>>>

> >>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>>>Of a summer evening late,

> >>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>>>Because they see so few)

> >>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>>>Steadily cantering through

> >>>>>The misty solitudes,

> >>>>>As though they perfectly knew

> >>>>>The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>>>But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>>>

> >>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>--

> >>>They shut the road through the woods

> >>>Seventy years ago.

> >>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>>And now you would never know

> >>>There was once a road through the woods

> >>>Before they planted the trees.

> >>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>>And the thin anemones.

> >>>Only the keeper sees

> >>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>>And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>>There was once a road through the woods.

> >>>

> >>>Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>>Of a summer evening late,

> >>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>>(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>>Because they see so few)

> >>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>>Steadily cantering through

> >>>The misty solitudes,

> >>>As though they perfectly knew

> >>>The old lost road through the woods….

> >>>But there is no road through the woods.

> >>>

> >>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>--

> >>They shut the road through the woods

> >>Seventy years ago.

> >>Weather and rain have undone it again,

> >>And now you would never know

> >>There was once a road through the woods

> >>Before they planted the trees.

> >>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

> >>And the thin anemones.

> >>Only the keeper sees

> >>That, where the ring-dove broods,

> >>And the badgers roll at ease,

> >>There was once a road through the woods.

> >>

> >>Yet, if you enter the woods

> >>Of a summer evening late,

> >>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

> >>Where the otter whistles his mate.

> >>(They fear not men in the woods,

> >>Because they see so few)

> >>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

> >>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

> >>Steadily cantering through

> >>The misty solitudes,

> >>As though they perfectly knew

> >>The old lost road through the woods….

> >>But there is no road through the woods.

> >>

> >>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cecelia

You could try & make your own Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent

1. sodium bicarbonate ( baking soda ) is simalar to the a & h soaps' sodium

carbonate

2. protease is a meat tenderizer enzyme

3. then add some soap , it should help . I have had great results with just dry

baking soda powdered all over. & rubbed into the cloth items . baking soda is

sold in bulk also as a sandblasting powder or medium .

Try anythng you will come up with a cure , Keep praying. & be patient . This

bug is a fighter , bt it can't beat you . I powder everything with baking soda

& I poof it with a duster tool as I enter the area so I dount get hit by the

sttraggles hanging from te cieling waitng to drop on me.

Here is the msds ( material safty data sheet on Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry

Detergent ( and some notes & links to skf the user of Arm & Hammer Powdered

Laundry Detergent . :

Here is the ingredient list for all the types of Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry

Detergent

ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent clean burst ingredients

Have A Question? Call Us Toll Free! 1-800-998-3295

ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent clean burst ingredients

skf file

topix SKF Arm & Hammer laundry detergent, soaked 2 times and did the house in it

..2. burn sulfer

8/21/09

Note:

Discussion topic:

Scabies/Eggs lifespan? and a question about premethrin...

http://www.ahprokleen.com/MSDS/MSDS-056-Laundry%20Detergent%20powder.pdf

MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET

MSDS NUMBER: MSDS-056 ISSUE DATE: 03/27/06 PAGE 1 OF 5

CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS: 469 North on Street Princeton, New Jersey

08543-5297 Phone (609) 683-5900

CHURCH & DWIGHT CO., INC.

CONSUMER PRODUCTS SPECIALTY PRODUCTS

1. PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION Emergency Phone:

1-609-683-5900 (USA)

ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent Medical Emergency Phone:

(All Forms: Phosphate, Non-phosphate, Fragrance-free, 1-888-234-1828

with Color Safe Bleach, and Fabric Softener)

Information Phone:

1-416-444-5241 (Canada)

2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS

Chemical Ingredient (% by Wt) CAS Number Exposure Limits (TLV-TWA)

Alcohol Ethoxysulfate Salt 3-10% 68585-34-2 Not Established

Ethoxylated Alcohol 1-5% 68131-39-5 Not Established

Sodium Percarbonate 1-5% 15630-89-4 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC)

(bleach formula only) 3 mg/m3 resp.

Sodium Carbonate 70-85% 497-19-8 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC)

3 mg/m3 resp.

Enzyme Preparation < 1% 9014-01-1 0.00395 mg/m3 (calculated)

(as 100% pure protease) 0.00006 mg/m3 (ACGIH)

Bentonite Clay 2-6% Mixture 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC)

(fabric softener formula only) 3 mg/m3 resp.

[bentonite clay may contain up to 7% naturally occurring crystalline silica]

Workplace Considerations: Contains no other hazardous ingredients at 1% or more

(0.1% for carcinogens) as defined by 29 CFR 1910 or the Hazardous Products Act.

(PNOC = Particles Not Otherwise Classified)

3. i was told that back in the old days people would burn sulfer and let their

houses fill up with the smoke and it would kill bed bugs and chicken /bird mites

if they got inside their houses and that it always worked .just wondering how

you would make a contraption to burn that stuff .

just wonder where you would buy powdered sulfer .

i have had several old folk tell me this story and they always say it took care

of it no matter how bad the bugs were .

4. http://bamboosourcery.com/cat_frame.cfm?row=13

Create an insecticidal soap made with Arm & Hammer laundry detergent (powder),

using 1 tablespoon per 1 gal water in a sprayer. Apply no more than once every

two weeks. It turns leaves somewhat yellow, but is our treatment of choice

because of its high effectiveness and low toxicity to the environment.

skf

Glasgow, KY

Reply

|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#2 Saturday Aug 8

darlin .going to the dr is a waste of time ,energy and money .

exterminators are costly and also dont work .

i just take one day at a time and i never do the same routine unless it gives me

relief /

although im really careful now how toxic something can be before i use it .

you can get really sick on some things .

how long have you had them

is it you ,or does your whole family have them .i just recently took a soak bath

in a 1/2 cup of armor hammer powdered laundry soap

helped alot today havnt felt them except once on my finger .

i always use a soft scrub brush when i take a bath .it will get alot the eggs

out of your skin ..WELCOME ABOARD...I WILL TALK TO YOU WHENEVER YOU NEED ME TO

..HOPE IT GOES AWAY FOR YOU SOON .

more at link: http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/TKN7C65AKILQNGL46

CHECK THIS OUT:

Silver ?

3. 3333333333333333333333333

SKF

Glasgow, KY

Reply

|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#13 Tuesday Aug 11

Paranoid-Compulsive wrote:

Skf,

hey havent heard from you much today. I wnt to the doctor today and he took a

look at me and said i was prob in the clear. Today on my back i noticed a diff

bump but it since wnt away. He gave me a script of Eurax 10% he says its better

then the perm. Has anyone used Eurax cream 10% and if so how did it do for you??

Curious:))My back

God bless you Cecelia,

Bill

On Sat May 7th, 2011 3:38 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>Dear BIll!

>Oh!, so you still got it after leaving stuff for 1 year! We thougt of leaving

>the stuff for one year to pick it up then, cause I did read that the mites live

>maximum 9-10 months without a meal. THat might not be a good idea then, cuase

if

>we get it back it´s definately not worth it! We don´t have arm and hammer

here,

>so that is unfortunately no option...

>

>Thanks for telling!

>Cecilia

>

>

>________________________________

>From: Doe <doe1769@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 12:55:34 AM

>Subject: Re: Results of the move...

>

> 

>Hi Cecelia

>

>I waited a long time , I had a truck full of the bugs that I left 1 year &

still

>got bit up going in to the truck

>

>But ! Skf, a lady that used the Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent on

>everything & got to keep most of her Stuff. She sprayed it on everything , &

left

>the a & h on at 1 cup per gallon. Then when she moved, she put everything outside

>so the bug could crawl off . She was bugless in her new apt , for 1 year then

>got lonely & went back to her husband & the original bug house & is fine still

..

>

>

>God bless you ,

>

>Bill

>

>110:1 (A

>Psalm of .) The LORD said unto my Lord,

>Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

>The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst

>of thine enemies. 3 Thy people [shall be] willing in the day of thy power, in

>the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy

>youth

>

>:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.. Jesus is Lord of All l:*-::-*:..:*-::-*:.

>

>`,,`,,`

>

>... __/ /\____ ____

>, o`,/__/ _/\_ //____/\

>```)( | | | | | | | || |l |

>,.- ,.-~~-., `-. :

>As forme and my house,

>We will serve YHWH!

>

>,,`,,``

>

>(Mat 27:40

>50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51

>And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the

>bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were

>opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the

>graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto

>many. 54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus,

>saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly,

>saying, Truly this was the Son of God. 55 And many women were there beholding

>afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee,

>

>Psalm 68:18

>

>18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast

>received gifts for men; yea, [for] the rebellious also, that the LORD God might

>dwell [among them]. 19 Blessed [be] the Lord, [who] daily loadeth us [with

>benefits, even] the God of our salvation. Selah.

>

>

>that I still

>

>On Fri May 6th, 2011 6:31 AM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>

>>Dear Bill!

>>We have put some things in a storage. HOw long did you wait until you brought

an

>>

>>old computer in again. Cause what I´ve read it takes 9-10 months until you

>>should be safe, cause the mmites can live that long without a meal. JUst

wanted

>

>>to know, so we don´t make any mistakes bringing that stuff in too early and

get

>

>>hit again, like you did. Apreciate your advice!

>>God bless you!

>>Cecilia

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>________________________________

>>From: Doe <doe1769@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 7:48:42 AM

>>Subject: Re: Results of the move...

>>

>> 

>>Hi Cecelia

>>

>>I moved it, went great till I brought in a old omputer & tha bug flurished .

So

>

>>sad. Cost me so much. I I sprayed & fogged for years killing the bug . I

helped.

>>

>>I don't het bit anymore

>>I powder everything now with baking soda so if a bug gets in it leaves or dies

>>in the higly caustic alkaline baking soda.

>>

>>

>>Baking soda helps so much , I bug can't live in it .

>>I put it in my boot sonce in a while & have no bites . My feet dry out so bad

I

>

>>have to oil them w/ cococnut oil . I magine it dries out the bug & repels the

>>bug.

>>

>>

>>God bless you Ceceleis

>>

>>,m

>>Bill

>>

>>On Thu May 5th, 2011 3:52 PM EDT Cecilia Borg wrote:

>>

>>>THanks Krys!

>>>I really hope you find some relief for your mother!

>>>C

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>________________________________

>>>From: Krys Brennand <krys109uk@...>

>>>bird mites

>>>Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 9:26:37 PM

>>>Subject: Re: Results of the move...

>>>

>>> 

>>>Very brave. Good luck.

>>>

>>>Best wishes

>>>Krys

>>>

>>>

>>>On 5 May 2011 08:58, <Goldstein@...> wrote:

>>>

>>> 

>>>>Well you did it Cecilia!  This is another real experiment, but feel you

have

>>>>such a good chance of at least controlling your environment now.  Good for

you! 

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Keep us informed as things happen or do not happen. 

>>>>

>>>> 

>>>>Sunday here in the US is Mother's Day--I don't think you have it there, but

>>>>Happy Mother's Day anyway Cecilia.  This move was very brave.  Starting

over

>>>>materially is such a huge thing.

>>>> 

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> How to diagnose?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> " bird mites " <bird mites >

>>>>>>>>Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 1:16 AM

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> 

>>>>>>>>It seems to me, if I am to help my mother get rid of her parasites, I

need to

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>>>know how to diagnose precisely what it is she needs to kill.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>I am familiar with how the bird mites D.gallinae & O.sylvarium are dealt

with in

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>poultry houses. I've dealt with O.sylvarium, in poultry, (these being

>>>>>>>>considerably easier to eradicate than D.gallinae).

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>But, since researching, apart from various mites, I've read that there

is a

>>>

>>>

>>>>>>>>possibility of human infestation by some type of Collembola, &

Morgellons & have

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>recently read of people being bitten by thrips (which I had, previously,

only

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>>>related to plants). It does not seem likely they would all be removed

from the

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>environment in the same way.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>I am not convinced my mother has a bird mite infestation for the

following

>>

>>

>>>>>>>>reasons:  She has never found a mite. The bird mites, mentioned above,

are

>>

>>

>>>>>>>>visible with the naked eye. Bird mites, at least in chickens, suck

blood, but

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>>>they don't burrow into the skin on chickens (though live chickens have

more

>>>

>>>

>>>>>>>>delicate skin than humans), nor do they leave black fibrous specks or

white

>>>

>>>

>>>>>>>>crystal things.  

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>I, also, notice the black specks & white bits seem to be a common tread

of

>>

>>

>>>>>>>>infestations.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>How does one diagnose which parasite?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Thanks

>>>>>>>>Krys

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,

>>>>>>>>And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,

>>>>>>>>And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,

>>>>>>>>And a grey mist on the sea's face and a grey dawn breaking.

>>>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide

>>>>>>>>Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;

>>>>>>>>And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,

>>>>>>>>And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

>>>>>>>>I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,

>>>>>>>>To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted

>>>knife;

>>>>>>>>And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,

>>>>>>>>And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over. 

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Sea Fever - Masefield

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>--

>>>>>>They shut the road through the woods

>>>>>>Seventy years ago.

>>>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>>>>And now you would never know

>>>>>>There was once a road through the woods

>>>>>>Before they planted the trees.

>>>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>>>>>And the thin anemones.

>>>>>>Only the keeper sees

>>>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>>>>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>>>>>Of a summer evening late,

>>>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>>>>>Because they see so few)

>>>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>>>>>Steadily cantering through

>>>>>>The misty solitudes,

>>>>>>As though they perfectly knew

>>>>>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>>>>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>--

>>>>They shut the road through the woods

>>>>Seventy years ago.

>>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>>And now you would never know

>>>>There was once a road through the woods

>>>>Before they planted the trees.

>>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>>>And the thin anemones.

>>>>Only the keeper sees

>>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>>>

>>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>>>Of a summer evening late,

>>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>>>Because they see so few)

>>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>>>Steadily cantering through

>>>>The misty solitudes,

>>>>As though they perfectly knew

>>>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>>

>>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>--

>>>They shut the road through the woods

>>>Seventy years ago.

>>>Weather and rain have undone it again,

>>>And now you would never know

>>>There was once a road through the woods

>>>Before they planted the trees.

>>>It is underneath the coppice and heath,

>>>And the thin anemones.

>>>Only the keeper sees

>>>That, where the ring-dove broods,

>>>And the badgers roll at ease,

>>>There was once a road through the woods.

>>>

>>>Yet, if you enter the woods

>>>Of a summer evening late,

>>>When the night-air cools on the trout-ringed pools

>>>Where the otter whistles his mate.

>>>(They fear not men in the woods,

>>>Because they see so few)

>>>You will hear the beat of a horse's feet,

>>>And the swish of a skirt in the dew,

>>>Steadily cantering through

>>>The misty solitudes,

>>>As though they perfectly knew

>>>The old lost road through the woods….

>>>But there is no road through the woods.

>>>

>>>The Way Through the Woods - Rudyard Kipling

>>>

>>

>>

>

>