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Hey - I forgot that's something I did too - cover the carpet at least 1/4 thick with earth diamacious and then covered it with plastic sheeting (shower curtains) wall to wall. Later when I realized they could still find me, I removed all the plastic covering, but the fine dust was terrible to remove, it set off the apartment alarm just like the time I burned crystals (burned my eyes, could hardly breathe, and ran outside, took me months to get rid of all that dust from the carpet, then samll white lumps appeared inside my mouth (still there today).

On that, I learned later, someone else in the building was blamed for using drugs

Actually, just today, I did the borax in my car, not sure what anyone would think if they peeked in the window and saw all the white powder all over the floor and seats. I suppose I would just tell them, I was trying to get the pet smell out. I have no pets other than mites.

From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 5:35:13 PMSubject: Re: Re: melting power of soaking things in chemicals - even hand santizer!

Hi That is the funniest picture in my mind of you sitting there in full anti bug gear ... Haa ahh , oh how I know how it looked .. So funny , but not at the time .Ok , at least you were HOME in your full bug proof garb Me ..noooo , Extended Stay Motel 3 am: Knock knock , open up Who is it ,Its the police .. The police ... What I said ..I open the door to an officer & peer down the wall rubbing my eyes ... there were 15 firemen in full fire gear , helmets , axes , & hose , they all glared at me . Seems my sulfur ointment drenched clothes boiling on the stove had stunk up the whole building due to a strong draft pulling the smell under the rack at the door. Police asked what is the smell , I said you mean the sulfur ..... All the firemen reared & tensed there axes ready to save the motel from a sulfur fire.. I said oh its my clothes they have residule sulfur creme on them

& I was trying to boil the smell out The poiceman understood , but not the fire dept one bit , they orderd me out of the room & raced in with huge fireproof gloves & picked up the huge boiling steamer pot & rushed it out side in to the snow bank . Then procedued to search the room of what they thought was a mobile meth lab ... Ohh brother ..... Asking all kinds of questions about strange aparatie, why is your laptop in a fishtank with duct tape over the to of the tank ... Ahhh er an experiment in temp control on processors sir . ( I used to gas the laptop while I used it , thets how I learned c02 is deadly & damages kidneys , the pain dropped me to the ground for 5 hrs one day while I was gassing it inside . C02 gas is not to be used inside, I learned the hard way. Then they saw the c02 tank ... There eyes blazed , I think now they were thinking terrorist .. What's this for .... Er ahhh to blow transmissinion lines out on my

truck I am working on .. Well needless to say My extended stay at the extended stay got cut short , they made me move. at 5:30 am ....Bugs , they are a meanace...So I moved to a house , set up my pots , left my new bed in the wrapper, ... naturaly , Well the state policeman that lived next door to my curtainless house didn't like the looks of it . 3 days later ..yes... They came for a raid , broke the door down & searched high & low , they found my pots on the stove again.... & the c02 tank & a 30 gallon ziplock bag hanging in the basment by a hook , I was beaching the bag clean .... .. The said I looked like a methlab , I would have to move. The landlord was very mad a had no understanding at all for his apt front door being smashed & a raid , even though the police said it , looked like a duck , quacked like a duck , smelled like a duck , but it wasn't a duck .. So I to another apt & decided I must learn to

fight this bug instead of move all over ..You would not belive what I did to the apt to stop bugs ... It is a whole other chapter..if done over again I would of bought baking soda & burried the palce 1/8 inch thick , but I didnt know.. Ok so

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Wow Doris! I wrecked one vacuum with DE since we couldn't tolerate it for too long and to later apply it again. I had it downstairs last summer to deal with the spider invasion which seems to happen every summer in this house. It does seem to help with the crawling of bugs. Maybe as Bill has done the baking soda operates the same way. The plastic on the floor reminds me of a good friend of mine with severe Environmental Illness... she has had plastic over her floors in her little apartment since I've known her. It is a weird experience to see someone living like that. The edges are taped down with duct tape. She had to do it to keep smoke out of her apartment since smoke was seeping through the floorboards.

I really wonder what those white lumps are inside the mouth. I take the food grade DE for some time now.

I kept what I was doing in the house pretty secret. We isolated 100% for a year except a few workers that had to come in for various things. I'd make things look as normal as possible because I felt so self-conscious about it. I am sure they wondered though and it was a lot of work keeping the lid on what was happening. No one ever asked, "what gives."

Re: Re: melting power of soaking things in chemicals - even hand santizer!

Hi That is the funniest picture in my mind of you sitting there in full anti bug gear ... Haa ahh , oh how I know how it looked .. So funny , but not at the time .Ok , at least you were HOME in your full bug proof garb Me ..noooo , Extended Stay Motel 3 am: Knock knock , open up Who is it ,Its the police .. The police ... What I said ..I open the door to an officer & peer down the wall rubbing my eyes ... there were 15 firemen in full fire gear , helmets , axes , & hose , they all glared at me . Seems my sulfur ointment drenched clothes boiling on the stove had stunk up the whole building due to a strong draft pulling the smell under the rack at the door. Police asked what is the smell , I said you mean the sulfur ..... All the firemen reared & tensed there axes ready to save the motel from a sulfur fire.. I said oh its my clothes they have residule sulfur creme on them & I was trying to boil the smell out The poiceman understood , but not the fire dept one bit , they orderd me out of the room & raced in with huge fireproof gloves & picked up the huge boiling steamer pot & rushed it out side in to the snow bank . Then procedued to search the room of what they thought was a mobile meth lab ... Ohh brother ..... Asking all kinds of questions about strange aparatie, why is your laptop in a fishtank with duct tape over the to of the tank ... Ahhh er an experiment in temp control on processors sir . ( I used to gas the laptop while I used it , thets how I learned c02 is deadly & damages kidneys , the pain dropped me to the ground for 5 hrs one day while I was gassing it inside . C02 gas is not to be used inside, I learned the hard way. Then they saw the c02 tank ... There eyes blazed , I think now they were thinking terrorist .. What's this for .... Er ahhh to blow transmissinion lines out on my truck I am working on .. Well needless to say My extended stay at the extended stay got cut short , they made me move. at 5:30 am ....Bugs , they are a meanace...So I moved to a house , set up my pots , left my new bed in the wrapper, ... naturaly , Well the state policeman that lived next door to my curtainless house didn't like the looks of it . 3 days later ..yes... They came for a raid , broke the door down & searched high & low , they found my pots on the stove again.... & the c02 tank & a 30 gallon ziplock bag hanging in the basment by a hook , I was beaching the bag clean .... .. The said I looked like a methlab , I would have to move. The landlord was very mad a had no understanding at all for his apt front door being smashed & a raid , even though the police said it , looked like a duck , quacked like a duck , smelled like a duck , but it wasn't a duck .. So I to another apt & decided I must learn to fight this bug instead of move all over ..You would not belive what I did to the apt to stop bugs ... It is a whole other chapter..if done over again I would of bought baking soda & burried the palce 1/8 inch thick , but I didnt know.. Ok so

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Best vac I found for DE is a shop vac. Spray down with sprayer and sweep up. I

even used some MMS in the sprayer:)

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> Wow Doris!  I wrecked one vacuum with DE since we couldn't tolerate it for

too long and to later apply it again.  I had it downstairs last summer to deal

with the spider invasion which seems to happen every summer in this house.  It

does seem to help with the crawling of bugs.  Maybe as Bill has done the baking

soda operates the same way.  The plastic on the floor reminds me of a good

friend of mine with severe Environmental Illness... she has had plastic over her

floors in her little apartment since I've known her.  It is a weird experience

to see someone living like that.  The edges are taped down with duct tape. 

She had to do it to keep smoke out of her apartment since smoke was seeping

through the floorboards. 

>

>

>

> I really wonder what those white lumps are inside the mouth.  I take the food

grade DE for some time now.

>

>

>

> I kept what I was doing in the house pretty secret.  We isolated 100% for a

year except a few workers that had to come in for various things.  I'd make

things look as normal as possible because I felt so self-conscious about it.  I

am sure they wondered though and it was a lot of work keeping the lid on what

was happening.  No one ever asked, " what gives. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: Re: melting power of soaking things in chemicals -

even hand santizer!

>

>  

>

>

> Hi

>

> That is the funniest picture in my mind of you sitting there in full anti bug

gear ... Haa ahh , oh how I know how it looked .. So funny , but not at the time

..

>

> Ok , at least you were HOME in your full bug proof garb

>

> Me ..noooo , Extended Stay Motel

>

> 3 am: Knock knock , open up

>

> Who is it ,

>

> Its the police

>

> .. The police ... What I said ..

> I open the door to an officer & peer down the wall rubbing my eyes ...

> there were 15 firemen in full fire gear , helmets , axes , & hose , they all

glared at me . Seems my sulfur ointment drenched clothes boiling on the stove

had stunk up the whole building due to a strong draft pulling the smell under

the rack at the door.

>

> Police asked what is the smell , I said you mean the sulfur ..... All the

firemen reared & tensed there axes ready to save the motel from a sulfur fire..

I said oh its my clothes they have residule sulfur creme on them & I was trying

to boil the smell out

> The poiceman understood , but not the fire dept one bit , they orderd me out

of the room & raced in with huge fireproof gloves & picked up the huge boiling

steamer pot & rushed it out side in to the snow bank . Then procedued to search

the room of what they thought was a mobile meth lab ... Ohh brother ..... Asking

all kinds of questions about strange aparatie, why is your laptop in a fishtank

with duct tape over the to of the tank ... Ahhh er an experiment in temp control

on processors sir . ( I used to gas the laptop while I used it , thets how I

learned c02 is deadly & damages kidneys , the pain dropped me to the ground for

5 hrs one day while I was gassing it inside . C02 gas is not to be used inside,

I learned the hard way.

> Then they saw the c02 tank ... There eyes blazed , I think now they were

thinking terrorist .. What's this for .... Er ahhh to blow transmissinion lines

out on my truck I am working on ..

>

> Well needless to say My extended stay at the extended stay got cut short ,

they made me move. at 5:30 am ....

> Bugs , they are a meanace...

>

> So I moved to a house , set up my pots , left my new bed in the wrapper, ...

naturaly , Well the state policeman that lived next door to my curtainless house

didn't like the looks of it . 3 days later ..yes... They came for a raid , broke

the door down & searched high & low , they found my pots on the stove again....

& the c02 tank & a 30 gallon ziplock bag hanging in the basment by a hook , I

was beaching the bag clean .... .. The said I looked like a methlab , I would

have to move. The landlord was very mad a had no understanding at all for his

apt front door being smashed & a raid , even though the police said it , looked

like a duck , quacked like a duck , smelled like a duck , but it wasn't a duck

... So I to another apt & decided I must learn to fight this bug instead of move

all over ..

> You would not belive what I did to the apt to stop bugs ... It is a whole

other chapter..

> if done over again I would of bought baking soda & burried the palce 1/8 inch

thick , but I didnt know..

>

> Ok so

>

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Doris For my car I used orange guard. Some had good luck using bombs, like bio

spot flea bombs. Air out well before driving and wash the steering wheel. Be

sure and do the trunk to.

http://www.orangeguard.com/

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>

>

> Wow Doris!  I wrecked one vacuum with DE since we couldn't tolerate it for

too long and to later apply it again.  I had it downstairs last summer to deal

with the spider invasion which seems to happen every summer in this house.  It

does seem to help with the crawling of bugs.  Maybe as Bill has done the baking

soda operates the same way.  The plastic on the floor reminds me of a good

friend of mine with severe Environmental Illness... she has had plastic over her

floors in her little apartment since I've known her.  It is a weird experience

to see someone living like that.  The edges are taped down with duct tape. 

She had to do it to keep smoke out of her apartment since smoke was seeping

through the floorboards. 

>

>

>

> I really wonder what those white lumps are inside the mouth.  I take the food

grade DE for some time now.

>

>

>

> I kept what I was doing in the house pretty secret.  We isolated 100% for a

year except a few workers that had to come in for various things.  I'd make

things look as normal as possible because I felt so self-conscious about it.  I

am sure they wondered though and it was a lot of work keeping the lid on what

was happening.  No one ever asked, " what gives. "

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: Re: melting power of soaking things in chemicals -

even hand santizer!

>

>  

>

>

> Hi

>

> That is the funniest picture in my mind of you sitting there in full anti bug

gear ... Haa ahh , oh how I know how it looked .. So funny , but not at the time

..

>

> Ok , at least you were HOME in your full bug proof garb

>

> Me ..noooo , Extended Stay Motel

>

> 3 am: Knock knock , open up

>

> Who is it ,

>

> Its the police

>

> .. The police ... What I said ..

> I open the door to an officer & peer down the wall rubbing my eyes ...

> there were 15 firemen in full fire gear , helmets , axes , & hose , they all

glared at me . Seems my sulfur ointment drenched clothes boiling on the stove

had stunk up the whole building due to a strong draft pulling the smell under

the rack at the door.

>

> Police asked what is the smell , I said you mean the sulfur ..... All the

firemen reared & tensed there axes ready to save the motel from a sulfur fire..

I said oh its my clothes they have residule sulfur creme on them & I was trying

to boil the smell out

> The poiceman understood , but not the fire dept one bit , they orderd me out

of the room & raced in with huge fireproof gloves & picked up the huge boiling

steamer pot & rushed it out side in to the snow bank . Then procedued to search

the room of what they thought was a mobile meth lab ... Ohh brother ..... Asking

all kinds of questions about strange aparatie, why is your laptop in a fishtank

with duct tape over the to of the tank ... Ahhh er an experiment in temp control

on processors sir . ( I used to gas the laptop while I used it , thets how I

learned c02 is deadly & damages kidneys , the pain dropped me to the ground for

5 hrs one day while I was gassing it inside . C02 gas is not to be used inside,

I learned the hard way.

> Then they saw the c02 tank ... There eyes blazed , I think now they were

thinking terrorist .. What's this for .... Er ahhh to blow transmissinion lines

out on my truck I am working on ..

>

> Well needless to say My extended stay at the extended stay got cut short ,

they made me move. at 5:30 am ....

> Bugs , they are a meanace...

>

> So I moved to a house , set up my pots , left my new bed in the wrapper, ...

naturaly , Well the state policeman that lived next door to my curtainless house

didn't like the looks of it . 3 days later ..yes... They came for a raid , broke

the door down & searched high & low , they found my pots on the stove again....

& the c02 tank & a 30 gallon ziplock bag hanging in the basment by a hook , I

was beaching the bag clean .... .. The said I looked like a methlab , I would

have to move. The landlord was very mad a had no understanding at all for his

apt front door being smashed & a raid , even though the police said it , looked

like a duck , quacked like a duck , smelled like a duck , but it wasn't a duck

... So I to another apt & decided I must learn to fight this bug instead of move

all over ..

> You would not belive what I did to the apt to stop bugs ... It is a whole

other chapter..

> if done over again I would of bought baking soda & burried the palce 1/8 inch

thick , but I didnt know..

>

> Ok so

>

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I agree. Realized that Kenmore canisters are not made for fine particulate matter like DE, no matter how much filtration they have. Shop vacs are made for dust.

Re: Re: melting power of soaking things in chemicals - even hand santizer! > > Â > > > Hi > > That is the funniest picture in my mind of you sitting there in full anti bug gear ... Haa ahh , oh how I know how it looked .. So funny , but not at the time . > > Ok , at least you were HOME in your full bug proof garb > > Me ..noooo , Extended Stay Motel > > 3 am: Knock knock , open up > > Who is it , > > Its the police > > .. The police ... What I said .. > I open the door to an officer & peer down the wall rubbing my eyes ... > there were 15 firemen in full fire gear , helmets , axes , & hose , they all glared at me . Seems my sulfur ointment drenched clothes boiling on the stove had stunk up the whole building due to a strong draft pulling the smell under the rack at the door. > > Police asked what is the smell , I said you mean the sulfur ..... All the firemen reared & tensed there axes ready to save the motel from a sulfur fire.. I said oh its my clothes they have residule sulfur creme on them & I was trying to boil the smell out > The poiceman understood , but not the fire dept one bit , they orderd me out of the room & raced in with huge fireproof gloves & picked up the huge boiling steamer pot & rushed it out side in to the snow bank . Then procedued to search the room of what they thought was a mobile meth lab ... Ohh brother ..... Asking all kinds of questions about strange aparatie, why is your laptop in a fishtank with duct tape over the to of the tank ... Ahhh er an experiment in temp control on processors sir . ( I used to gas the laptop while I used it , thets how I learned c02 is deadly & damages kidneys , the pain dropped me to the ground for 5 hrs one day while I was gassing it inside . C02 gas is not to be used inside, I learned the hard way. > Then they saw the c02 tank ... There eyes blazed , I think now they were thinking terrorist .. What's this for .... Er ahhh to blow transmissinion lines out on my truck I am working on .. > > Well needless to say My extended stay at the extended stay got cut short , they made me move. at 5:30 am .... > Bugs , they are a meanace... > > So I moved to a house , set up my pots , left my new bed in the wrapper, ... naturaly , Well the state policeman that lived next door to my curtainless house didn't like the looks of it . 3 days later ..yes... They came for a raid , broke the door down & searched high & low , they found my pots on the stove again.... & the c02 tank & a 30 gallon ziplock bag hanging in the basment by a hook , I was beaching the bag clean .... .. The said I looked like a methlab , I would have to move. The landlord was very mad a had no understanding at all for his apt front door being smashed & a raid , even though the police said it , looked like a duck , quacked like a duck , smelled like a duck , but it wasn't a duck .. So I to another apt & decided I must learn to fight this bug instead of move all over .. > You would not belive what I did to the apt to stop bugs ... It is a whole other chapter.. > if done over again I would of bought baking soda & burried the palce 1/8 inch thick , but I didnt know.. > > Ok so>

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Made for dust and water. That is why you can wet the carpet first with a

sprayer.

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> >

> >

> > Wow Doris!  I wrecked one vacuum with DE since we couldn't tolerate it

for too long and to later apply it again.  I had it downstairs last summer to

deal with the spider invasion which seems to happen every summer in this

house.  It does seem to help with the crawling of bugs.  Maybe as Bill has

done the baking soda operates the same way.  The plastic on the floor reminds

me of a good friend of mine with severe Environmental Illness... she has had

plastic over her floors in her little apartment since I've known her.  It is

a weird experience to see someone living like that.  The edges are taped down

with duct tape.  She had to do it to keep smoke out of her apartment since

smoke was seeping through the floorboards. 

> >

> >

> >

> > I really wonder what those white lumps are inside the mouth.  I take the

food grade DE for some time now.

> >

> >

> >

> > I kept what I was doing in the house pretty secret.  We isolated 100% for

a year except a few workers that had to come in for various things.  I'd make

things look as normal as possible because I felt so self-conscious about it. 

I am sure they wondered though and it was a lot of work keeping the lid on what

was happening.  No one ever asked, " what gives. "

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Re: melting power of soaking things in chemicals

- even hand santizer!

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > That is the funniest picture in my mind of you sitting there in full anti

bug gear ... Haa ahh , oh how I know how it looked .. So funny , but not at the

time .

> >

> > Ok , at least you were HOME in your full bug proof garb

> >

> > Me ..noooo , Extended Stay Motel

> >

> > 3 am: Knock knock , open up

> >

> > Who is it ,

> >

> > Its the police

> >

> > .. The police ... What I said ..

> > I open the door to an officer & peer down the wall rubbing my eyes ...

> > there were 15 firemen in full fire gear , helmets , axes , & hose , they all

glared at me . Seems my sulfur ointment drenched clothes boiling on the stove

had stunk up the whole building due to a strong draft pulling the smell under

the rack at the door.

> >

> > Police asked what is the smell , I said you mean the sulfur ..... All the

firemen reared & tensed there axes ready to save the motel from a sulfur fire..

I said oh its my clothes they have residule sulfur creme on them & I was trying

to boil the smell out

> > The poiceman understood , but not the fire dept one bit , they orderd me out

of the room & raced in with huge fireproof gloves & picked up the huge boiling

steamer pot & rushed it out side in to the snow bank . Then procedued to search

the room of what they thought was a mobile meth lab ... Ohh brother ..... Asking

all kinds of questions about strange aparatie, why is your laptop in a fishtank

with duct tape over the to of the tank ... Ahhh er an experiment in temp control

on processors sir . ( I used to gas the laptop while I used it , thets how I

learned c02 is deadly & damages kidneys , the pain dropped me to the ground for

5 hrs one day while I was gassing it inside . C02 gas is not to be used inside,

I learned the hard way.

> > Then they saw the c02 tank ... There eyes blazed , I think now they were

thinking terrorist .. What's this for .... Er ahhh to blow transmissinion lines

out on my truck I am working on ..

> >

> > Well needless to say My extended stay at the extended stay got cut short ,

they made me move. at 5:30 am ....

> > Bugs , they are a meanace...

> >

> > So I moved to a house , set up my pots , left my new bed in the wrapper, ...

naturaly , Well the state policeman that lived next door to my curtainless house

didn't like the looks of it . 3 days later ..yes... They came for a raid , broke

the door down & searched high & low , they found my pots on the stove again....

& the c02 tank & a 30 gallon ziplock bag hanging in the basment by a hook , I

was beaching the bag clean .... .. The said I looked like a methlab , I would

have to move. The landlord was very mad a had no understanding at all for his

apt front door being smashed & a raid , even though the police said it , looked

like a duck , quacked like a duck , smelled like a duck , but it wasn't a duck

... So I to another apt & decided I must learn to fight this bug instead of move

all over ..

> > You would not belive what I did to the apt to stop bugs ... It is a whole

other chapter..

> > if done over again I would of bought baking soda & burried the palce 1/8

inch thick , but I didnt know..

> >

> > Ok so

> >

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Hi Healing hope

By the way the Kirby vac is one of the only vacs that has a separate fan for

drawing the dust up & another separate fan for cooling the motor it protects the

bearings in the motor . I used to use shop vacs & sears we vacs for grinders

with vac attachments on concrete , I would get 6 hrs before the vacaumm would

sieze to no repair . I switched to a Kirby I found & it never sied I have used

it fo oved 150 hrs on concrete dust , my plasterer friend taught me that after

wreckng many shop vacs & wet vacs

Kirbs are sold used at vac repair shops

God Bl.ess you ,

Bill

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Bill Thanks for the advice will keep this in mind. I have had luck with my shop

vac. I especially like the fact I can wet the carpet first to get the DE up. My

carpets are fine now since healed I do not use the DE in the house. My shop vac

is a 5.0 horse and considered industrial perhaps this made a difference. Also

making sure the foam filter was cleaned, especially when using wet. I bought the

sweeper at Ace Hardware on sale for $59.00 usually $100.00.

>

> Hi Healing hope

>

> By the way the Kirby vac is one of the only vacs that has a separate fan for

drawing the dust up & another separate fan for cooling the motor it protects the

bearings in the motor . I used to use shop vacs & sears we vacs for grinders

with vac attachments on concrete , I would get 6 hrs before the vacaumm would

sieze to no repair . I switched to a Kirby I found & it never sied I have used

it fo oved 150 hrs on concrete dust , my plasterer friend taught me that after

wreckng many shop vacs & wet vacs

> Kirbs are sold used at vac repair shops

>

> God Bl.ess you ,

>

> Bill

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In fact it is on sale this month, just googled. Be sure and buy the foam filter

also for wet applications, cost $8.00, and can be washed.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3899086 & cp=1981689.125952\

8 & origkw=shop+vac

> >

> > Hi Healing hope

> >

> > By the way the Kirby vac is one of the only vacs that has a separate fan

for drawing the dust up & another separate fan for cooling the motor it protects

the bearings in the motor . I used to use shop vacs & sears we vacs for

grinders with vac attachments on concrete , I would get 6 hrs before the

vacaumm would sieze to no repair . I switched to a Kirby I found & it never sied

I have used it fo oved 150 hrs on concrete dust , my plasterer friend taught me

that after wreckng many shop vacs & wet vacs

> > Kirbs are sold used at vac repair shops

> >

> > God Bl.ess you ,

> >

> > Bill

> >

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