Re: How can I clean the car once and for all

March 22, 2011

Thanks, I moved 3 times and my environment improved, but what if I can't change my car 3 times? I do have a Jeep Wrangler. I used the Jeep all winter and would have thought that the Camry left out in cold below zero temperatures would have killed everything. Turns out that they were just waiting for better weather. The Wrangler has no cloth seat or lining of any kind - the floor coverings are gone, it has a worn canvas top and the rusty floor apparently is not to their liking. No place to really hide. But it's old and unreliable. I need to use the Camry.

Is there any way I could get them out once and for all?

Everything is lined with cloth and the seats are cloth. I have covered all the floor with 1/2 inch of earth demacious for 2 weeks - I tried covering the seats with plastic but I am ready to give up - there are so many places they could hide besides the floor and seats.

What can I do?

From: Doe <doe1769@...>bird mites Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 8:33:04 PMSubject: Re: How about ozone?

Hi DorisThe poison gases c02 , nitrogen , vikane kill live life forms but an egg dosnet seem to be alive yet . So afte I gas my car with carbon dioxide ( c02 ) it get bugless bliss for days , but it seems the bug rehatches . I now never gas I only powder the seats & interior with borax rubbed into the car , or now I only use baking soda & rub it in deep or carpet fresh ( baking soda is highly alkaline & caustic . . I don't get bit in my car any more . I have changed cars at least 4 times since thei all began . Ea8h new caris easier to control . God bless you Doris , BillFor the mountains shall depart And the hills be removed But my kindness shall not depart from you, Is 54:10On Tue Mar 22nd, 2011 8:50 PM EDT Doris Kennedy wrote:>If the ozone thing works, I would like to try it for my car also, I have moved 3 >times, but the bug incubator (my car) is still infested,

sometimes it goes down >a little, but then they bulk up again.>>>>>________________________________>From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>>bird mites >Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 5:37:37 PM>Subject: How about ozone?>> >Hi All,>>Has anyone ever been successful by using ozone generators for killing birdmites? >I have learnt that ozone kills every living organism in the air, e.g. bacteria, >fungus, mold, dustmites. Last week i have been talking to a lady of a company >where you can lease ozone generators. She promised me to do some research and >got

back to me today, saying that she talked to some experts and they said that >i should be able to eradicate birdmites with it. As i need to get 2 generators >for producing enough ozone and because the generators are quite costly, >>i'd love to get your opinion prior to leasing. I might try 1 generator first for >the car and see if it works as this vehicle is just the worst place to be at.>>>>>>

March 22, 2011

Have you tried the MMS in the car as a spray once it is activated? What a predicament this is with houses and cars! You'd have to do it over and over again I think.

So sorry Doris.

How about ozone?>> >Hi All,>>Has anyone ever been successful by using ozone generators for killing birdmites? >I have learnt that ozone kills every living organism in the air, e.g. bacteria, >fungus, mold, dustmites. Last week i have been talking to a lady of a company >where you can lease ozone generators. She promised me to do some research and >got back to me today, saying that she talked to some experts and they said that >i should be able to eradicate birdmites with it. As i need to get 2 generators >for producing enough ozone and because the generators are quite costly, >>i'd love to get your opinion prior to leasing. I might try 1 generator first for >the car and see if it works as this vehicle is just the worst place to be at.>>>>>>

March 22, 2011

Hi Doris

I would use everything

Here is my favorite list :

http://www.fao.org/docrep/X5042E/x5042E01.htm

Other ways that have been found effective in preventing and controlling

infestations are as follows:

1. Sanitation.

2. Exclusion of pests.

3. Low temperature - " freeze-outs " , refrigeration, aeration.

4. High temperature - heating of mills.

5. Moisture control - grain drying.

6. Aeration - cooling, drying, elimination of temperature gradients.

7. Protectants - chemicals, inert dusts, natural compounds.

8. Residual or contact insecticides.

9. Atmospheric gases - carbon dioxide, nitrogen.

10. Gamma radiation, radio and sonic waves, microwaves, infra-red radiation.

11. Pheromones.

12. Insect growth regulators.

13. Insect pathogens.

14. Predators.

15. Insect resistant packaging.

16. Resistant varieties.

An effective integrated pest management system should begin with comprehensive

planning to include all aspects of the problem, followed by the application of

preventive and control methods...

Here is the list afain with my take on it , please if any body can add the the

prodedures please do , thei bug is a menace & a destroyer , it need to be killed

when present . I found baking soda sends it packing. I haven felt a bug barly

since puffing it all over . If I do feel a bug I wooo slather it with

16 oz perox / 2 tbls borax /32 oz water, it die soon after , if it sosent

which some are tenacious , apply yjr same mix again & then maybe som arm &

hammer powdered laundry soap 3 tsp per gal of water , if it slill lives!

betadine applied for 5 mins then rinsed

1. Sanitation. Borax 1 cup per gal of hot hot water & spic n span 1 cup

2. Exclusion of pests. Wash the outside often

3. Low temperature - " freeze-outs " , refrigeration, aeration. Quick freeze & then

re warm they say helps ...

4. High temperature - heating of mills. ,,,,,, Oh yea , that's the ticket

170-200 weekly for 3 weeks , auto spray booth paint baker , call & find aan auto

man who needs money or use a turbo heater, or a furnace bought used form a

furnace guy with a tube leadimg to your car & thermometers inthe window facing

out,,,,,,

5. Moisture control - grain drying. ,,,,,, Doris turn the heat up put down

baking soda it is so dry & alkaline bug s hate it ,,,,,,

6. Aeration - cooling, drying, elimination of temperature gradients. ,,,,,,

7. Protectants - chemicals, inert dusts, natural compounds. ,,,,,, baking soda

, powdered soap ,,,,,,

8. Residual or contact insecticides. ,,,,,, borax, boric acic , ant traps ,

aspertame from nutra sweet sprinled all over then misted with water to attract

the bug moistre makes it more palatable & it kills ants I know & mites I

believe ,,,,,,

9. Atmospheric gases - carbon dioxide, nitrogen. ,,,,,, c02 or nitrogen works

like a charm ,,,,,, rent tanks at any welding shop 20lb tank for a car 5.00

per month the rent & $12.68 to fill at the welding shop . Never breath any of

it , that why it is calle poison gas , air out area gassed for 5-8 hrs ,,,,,,

c02 attracts bugs so wash the car oun the outside to smothe them in the soap

also , notrogen does not attract bug ,abut you get leass gas for the money , but

it works , most oraganic vegatable are gase with c02 or notrogen ,,,,,,

10. Gamma radiation, radio and sonic waves, microwaves, infra-red radiation.

,,,,,, bug sonic repellers , ,,,,,,

11. Pheromones. ,,,,,, Strong scented carpet fresh ,,,,,, ant traps with

attractarants in it ,,,,,,

12. Insect growth regulators. ,,,,,, nyllar ,,,,,,

13. Insect pathogens. ? I don't under stand thei one , does anyone else ?

14. Predators. ,,,,,, I don't want to release more bugs ,,,,,, But I pray

my body will learn to resist the bug ,

15. Insect resistant packaging. ,,,,,, put all in bags & power the inside

with baking soda & borax

16. Resistant varieties. ,,,,,, change up the weapons constantly so the bug

can't figure them out & adapt

bye ,

Nite ,

God is Love He will help ....,

Bill

On Tue Mar 22nd, 2011 10:43 PM EDT Doris Kennedy wrote:

>Thanks, I moved 3 times and my environment improved, but what if I can't

change

>my car 3 times? I do have a Jeep Wrangler. I used the Jeep all winter and

>would have thought that the Camry left out in cold below zero temperatures

would

>have killed everything. Turns out that they were just waiting for better

>weather. The Wrangler has no cloth seat or lining of any kind - the floor

>coverings are gone, it has a worn canvas top and the rusty floor apparently is

>not to their liking. No place to really hide. But it's old and unreliable. I

>need to use the Camry.

>

> Is there any way I could get them out once and for all?

>

>Everything is lined with cloth and the seats are cloth. I have covered all the

>floor with 1/2 inch of earth demacious for 2 weeks - I tried covering the

seats

>with plastic but I am ready to give up - there are so many places they could

>hide besides the floor and seats.

>

>What can I do?

>

>________________________________

>From: Doe <doe1769@...>

>bird mites

>Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 8:33:04 PM

>Subject: Re: How about ozone?

>

>Hi Doris

>

>The poison gases c02 , nitrogen , vikane kill live life forms but an egg dosnet

>seem to be alive yet . So afte I gas my car with carbon dioxide ( c02 ) it get

>bugless bliss for days , but it seems the bug rehatches . I now never gas I

only

>powder the seats & interior with borax rubbed into the car , or now I only use

>baking soda & rub it in deep or carpet fresh ( baking soda is highly alkaline &

>caustic . . I don't get bit in my car any more . I have changed cars at least 4

>times since thei all began . Ea8h new caris easier to control .

>

>God bless you Doris ,

>

>Bill

>

>For the mountains shall depart And the hills be removed But my kindness shall

>not depart from you, Is 54:10

>

>On Tue Mar 22nd, 2011 8:50 PM EDT Doris Kennedy wrote:

>

>>If the ozone thing works, I would like to try it for my car also, I have moved

3

>>

>>times, but the bug incubator (my car) is still infested, sometimes it goes

down

>

>>a little, but then they bulk up again.

>>

>>________________________________

>>From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 5:37:37 PM

>>Subject: How about ozone?

>>

>>Hi All,

>>

>>Has anyone ever been successful by using ozone generators for killing

birdmites?

>>

>>I have learnt that ozone kills every living organism in the air, e.g.

bacteria,

>

>>fungus, mold, dustmites. Last week i have been talking to a lady of a company

>>where you can lease ozone generators. She promised me to do some research and

>>got back to me today, saying that she talked to some experts and they said

that

>

>>i should be able to eradicate birdmites with it. As i need to get 2 generators

>>for producing enough ozone and because the generators are quite costly,

>>

>>i'd love to get your opinion prior to leasing. I might try 1 generator first

for

>>

>>the car and see if it works as this vehicle is just the worst place to be at.

>>

>

March 23, 2011

H Doris

This is Shans approach to cars , she said she beat the bug in 2 moths

She powdered her car with :

75 % de

25 % pyritherin power ( flea powder )

she says the combo is the ticket

then she burns menthol crystals ( I believe the menthol causes the bug to run

from its intense & over whelming fumes when it is heated in a concentrated

amount. I can't stay in the room with it , nothing can , it smells good but to

powerful to be around while it is being heated ..... & it make the bug run , thus

thru the powder poison

Buy it at Ypslant Co-op

734-483-1354,office

$18. per 1/2 lb enough for 40 treatments of 1 room 12X12 .

Shan said she washed her car with Xtreme clean , it is 80.00 per gallon , I

found the same ingredients in vetnary kennel wash called a-33 m it is .40 cents

for 1 packet and it makes 1 gallon . Shan said the Xtreme clean stopped the bug

, then she used Nylar growth regulator & they didn't return till she opened a

box that they had forgotten to 'fumagate with the powder they used ..

Here is a letter from a birdmite forum poster who used Xtreme clean

PASTED POST FROM THE PAST

>

>>If the ozone thing works, I would like to try it for my car also, I have moved

3

>>

>>times, but the bug incubator (my car) is still infested, sometimes it goes

down

>

>>a little, but then they bulk up again.

>>

>>________________________________

>>From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@...>

>>bird mites

>>Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 5:37:37 PM

>>Subject: How about ozone?

>>

>>Hi All,

>>

>>Has anyone ever been successful by using ozone generators for killing

birdmites?

>>

>>I have learnt that ozone kills every living organism in the air, e.g.

bacteria,

>

>>fungus, mold, dustmites. Last week i have been talking to a lady of a company

>>where you can lease ozone generators. She promised me to do some research and

>>got back to me today, saying that she talked to some experts and they said

that

>

>>i should be able to eradicate birdmites with it. As i need to get 2 generators

>>for producing enough ozone and because the generators are quite costly,

>>

>>i'd love to get your opinion prior to leasing. I might try 1 generator first

for

>>

>>the car and see if it works as this vehicle is just the worst place to be at.

>>

>

March 24, 2011

Hi Z M

Tha baking soda ia amizing isn't it & m the epsom is a huge seterent , heard

sprinling t around gabage cans will even make racoon who come to the can never

return .....

Reminds me of the bad eggs I accidently ate yesterday & even tried today not

sure what caused the huge stomach wrench , I will never go near them again .

...EVER , ( no constipation from those eggs , very simalar ,(sort of) to the

effect of epsom salts . , if you can't beat them , drive them away .... : )

Eospm will frive any thing far away I spray 1 cup & 3 cups water on ants & they

never return ..It beats the bug too . But is does cause rusting of metal so I

try to taper off to borax after the initial epsom spray soaking for 2-3 weeks of

every thing if the infestation is bad .

I have read of 40 posters using epsom as a weapon bu never rubbed in dry

,thanks

To nit I went in to my worst truck I own , I havvent been in it in 4 months ,

it is a bug mobile, I have slaoughtered it with evety bom p windex , borax ,

antifreeze, bleach, c02 , oil etc . Weel tonit ei wen in to get the battery &

charge it & I got a few bites I rubbed dry arm & hammer powdered laundry soap on

the bites , the burned only at the pin point of their bite & the dissappered & I

fell no more , it has been 1.5 hrs .... Its miracle . I didn't have to pray

myseld in the face with peroxide & borax , or epsom or any liquid only wipe on

a 1/16 teasp of arm & hammer powdered laundry soap. Thank God . .

Bye Bye ZM ,

thanks ... Dry epsom , I never thought of it , it is so safe too .

Bill

On Thu Mar 24th, 2011 8:53 PM EDT zen morgie wrote:

>I did have luck with rubbing epsom salt and baking soda everywhere in my car

>and letting it sit in the hot, hot sun for a few days. It was so messy to

>clean up (still find it now and again between the seats, etc.) but worth it

>for the peace. In fact, I need to do this again now that it's warm here.

>

>Good luck!

>

>On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Aggi <aggi_assmann@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Hi Healinghope,

>> Pest controllers also fumigated my car with pyrethrum to no avail. After

>> that i've tried different sprays from the pet shop, one gave a little

>> relief, then the bugs got used to it. Followed up with alcohol 70 per cent

>> that usually knocks them dead when applied to the skin...not so in the car.

>> I will try burning tons of menthol crystals next and if that doesn't work i

>> am going to lease that ozone generator. Overall, my home feels pretty much

>> like a home again, whereas car and office are still badly infested. I

>> believe it is the carpet in both places that makes it almost impossible to

>> eradicate those devils in disguise;-)

>> Have you had any luck with anything in your car ?

>>

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >>If the ozone thing works, I would like to try it for my car

>> also, I have moved 3

>> > > > > > >>

>> > > > > > >>times, but the bug incubator (my car) isÂ still infested,

>> sometimes it goes down

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >>a little, but then they bulk up again.

>> > > > > > >>

>> > > > > > >>________________________________

>> > > > > > >>From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@>

>> > > > > > >>bird mites

>> > > > > > >>Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 5:37:37 PM

>> > > > > > >>Subject: How about ozone?

>> > > > > > >>

>> > > > > > >>Â

>> > > > > > >>Hi All,

>> > > > > > >>

>> > > > > > >>Has anyone ever been successful by using ozone generators for

>> killing birdmites?

>> > > > > > >>

>> > > > > > >>I have learnt that ozone kills every living organism in the

>> air, e.g. bacteria,

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >>fungus, mold, dustmites. Last week i have been talking to a

>> lady of a company

>> > > > > > >>where you can lease ozone generators. She promised me to do

>> some research and

>> > > > > > >>got back to me today, saying that she talked to some experts

>> and they said that

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >>i should be able to eradicate birdmites with it. As i need to

>> get 2 generators

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > >>for producing enough ozone and because the generators are quite

>> costly,

>> > > > > > >>

>> > > > > > >>i'd love to get your opinion prior to leasing. I might try 1

>> generator first for

>> > > > > > >>

>> > > > > > >>the car and see if it works as this vehicle is just the worst

>> place to be at.

>> > > > > > >>

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > >

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March 25, 2011

Thanks Healinghope !

Would you mind telling me the ingredients in Orange Guard, maybe i can find

something similar in Germany. You did not use this stuff on your body, did you ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >>If the ozone thing works, I would like to try it for my car

also, I have moved 3

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>times, but the bug incubator (my car) isÂ still infested,

sometimes it goes down

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >>a little, but then they bulk up again.

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>________________________________

> > > > > > > >>From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@>

> > > > > > > >>bird mites

> > > > > > > >>Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 5:37:37 PM

> > > > > > > >>Subject: How about ozone?

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>Â

> > > > > > > >>Hi All,

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>Has anyone ever been successful by using ozone generators for

killing birdmites?

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>I have learnt that ozone kills every living organism in the air,

e.g. bacteria,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >>fungus, mold, dustmites. Last week i have been talking to a lady

of a company

> > > > > > > >>where you can lease ozone generators. She promised me to do some

research and

> > > > > > > >>got back to me today, saying that she talked to some experts and

they said that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >>i should be able to eradicate birdmites with it. As i need to

get 2 generators

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >>for producing enough ozone and because the generators are quite

costly,

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>i'd love to get your opinion prior to leasing. I might try 1

generator first for

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >>the car and see if it works as this vehicle is just the worst

place to be at.

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March 26, 2011

Hi Group.

I did buy the ant traps and they didn't work. Sometimes, with these mitey

mites, you need something a little more powerful. I did remove the carpet from

the driver's side floor.

What works really well is CYONARA mixed with an INSECT GROWTH REGULATOR NYLAR.

These can be purchase from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. Mix a small amount

with water and put it in a spray bottle and spray the areas where you sit in the

car, the floor, the seat, the back of the seat and a small amount on steering

wheel and stick shift. The mites DO NOT travel to other seats in the car, only

where you sit. Make sure you spray the ceiling above your head, too.

Use a hot wash cloth and clean the seat, floor, ceiling, steering wheel, stick

shift. You can also spray 91% alcohol, too. Don't forget about the seat belts,

as you handle the seat belts and mites will fall from your hand to whereever you

touch. Someone once told me that you can spray many things, but WIPING UP IS

NECESSARY, and IT WORKS. If you have the energy, vacuum the driver's side area,

too.

I tried the CO2 tanks; extremely expensive, it costs $120 per tank and over $20

for a refill; they DO NOT WORK. I tried the extreme heat treating - NOT A GOOD

IDEA, dangerous and expensive and IT DOESN'T WORK. I tried the menthol

cyrstals, didn't work.

Removing the carpet DID WORK. I know that removing the carpet is extreme and

ugly, but it beats getting bit up and reinfested every time you drive your car.

When you are dealing with something as powerful as invisible biting mites, the

car acts as an incubator for these mites, you need to take drastic steps, but

co2 tanks and extremely heat treating does not work. Ozone will destory things

inside your car, like rubber, etc.

Cyonara and Nylar did work for me. Best to spray when getting out of your car,

when you are finished using it. When the car is in use, OPEN THE WINDOWS.

Take care,

Mel

> > Some of the newer posters here are not familiar with this person

but I spoke with SOM today. He is one of our previous posters in which has

suffered this nightmare going on four years. In the last four weeks he has

incorporated Ant bait traps in his home and is having such good results that he

wanted to let you all know. The traps have pheromones that attracts ants, but we

both are of the feeling that whatever these " things " are are attracted to a

multitude of pheromones. He wanted to let you all know the good results he was

having. He said it took

> about a week to feel a decrease and over the course of the next three weeks,

the activity has gone down to almost zero. He is doing weekly laundry now and

gets no activity at his computer or while he is sleeping. He said that he places

the traps near his computer, under his bed, etc. > > How these traps may be

working. The pheromones attract, they enter, and may feed on the bait. So they

may ingest some portion and then go back to their " nest " The exposure to the

rest in the nest occurs due to the exposure of thebugs exoskeleton and legs,

etc. They carry the compound back on their bodies, spreading the compound to

others in which may alsoingest/breathe or expose their own bodies to the

original bug. The original bug dies from the ingestion/inhalatio n or external

>

> The end of fritos post.

>

> 2.

> Aspartame is the sweetening ingredient in NutraSweet. ... Blaylock,

neurosurgeon, said, " The ingredients stimulates the neurons of the ...

> www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/nutrasweet.htm - Cached

>

http://search./search?p=Nutrasweet+ingredients & ei=ISO-8859-1 & iscqry= & fr\

=sfp

>

> I opened two packets of aspartame sweetener, and dumped one in a corner of

each of our bathrooms. That was about 2 years ago and I have not seen any

carpenter ants for about 9 to 12 months. It works better th

March 26, 2011

Cas Registry #: 5989-27-5 (d-Limonene, 5.8%)

Cas Registry Names: Citrus Terpenes, Orange Terpenes, Menthadiene

The active ingredient is d-Limonene (solvent). This is a steam-distilled

byproduct of citrus peels, entirely of natural origin. Orange Guard is

water-based and all ingredients are classified food-grade and G.R.A.S.

(generally recognized as safe) by the FDA.

http://www.orangeguard.com/tech.html

http://www.greenterpene.com/

http://www.greenterpene.com/d_Limonene_Terpenes_s/20.htm

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >>If the ozone thing works, I would like to try it for my car

also, I have moved 3

> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >>times, but the bug incubator (my car) isÂ still infested,

sometimes it goes down

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >>a little, but then they bulk up again.

> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >>________________________________

> > > > > > > > >>From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@>

> > > > > > > > >>bird mites

> > > > > > > > >>Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 5:37:37 PM

> > > > > > > > >>Subject: How about ozone?

> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >>Â

> > > > > > > > >>Hi All,

> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >>Has anyone ever been successful by using ozone generators for

killing birdmites?

> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >>I have learnt that ozone kills every living organism in the

air, e.g. bacteria,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >>fungus, mold, dustmites. Last week i have been talking to a

lady of a company

> > > > > > > > >>where you can lease ozone generators. She promised me to do

some research and

> > > > > > > > >>got back to me today, saying that she talked to some experts

and they said that

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >>i should be able to eradicate birdmites with it. As i need to

get 2 generators

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >>for producing enough ozone and because the generators are

quite costly,

> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >>i'd love to get your opinion prior to leasing. I might try 1

generator first for

> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >>the car and see if it works as this vehicle is just the worst

place to be at.

> > > > > > > > >>

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March 26, 2011

From: iggydoll <iggydoll@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 5:20:22 AMSubject: Re: How can I clean the car once and for all

That sounds very positive, maybe I won't buy ten thousand ant traps. But how toxic is it for humans? I'm trying hard to stay away from poisons. I previoulsy thought of removing the carpets in the car, both front seats are infested. Moreover, it's not a new car anyway and they are filthy. It's the weeek-end and I think I will do that. The seats are cloth, but I cover them with plastic.

Thank you so much, this site offers more than any professional service, medical,emotional, or exterminator company.

Hi Group. I did buy the ant traps and they didn't work. Sometimes, with these mitey mites, you need something a little more powerful. I did remove the carpet from the driver's side floor. What works really well is CYONARA mixed with an INSECT GROWTH REGULATOR NYLAR. These can be purchase from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. Mix a small amount with water and put it in a spray bottle and spray the areas where you sit in the car, the floor, the seat, the back of the seat and a small amount on steering wheel and stick shift. The mites DO NOT travel to other seats in the car, only where you sit. Make sure you spray the ceiling above your head, too.Use a hot wash cloth and clean the seat, floor, ceiling, steering wheel, stick shift. You can also spray 91% alcohol, too. Don't forget about the seat belts, as you handle the seat belts and mites will fall from your hand to whereever you touch. Someone once told me that you can

spray many things, but WIPING UP IS NECESSARY, and IT WORKS. If you have the energy, vacuum the driver's side area, too.I tried the CO2 tanks; extremely expensive, it costs $120 per tank and over $20 for a refill; they DO NOT WORK. I tried the extreme heat treating - NOT A GOOD IDEA, dangerous and expensive and IT DOESN'T WORK. I tried the menthol cyrstals, didn't work.Removing the carpet DID WORK. I know that removing the carpet is extreme and ugly, but it beats getting bit up and reinfested every time you drive your car. When you are dealing with something as powerful as invisible biting mites, the car acts as an incubator for these mites, you need to take drastic steps, but co2 tanks and extremely heat treating does not work. Ozone will destory things inside your car, like rubber, etc.Cyonara and Nylar did work for me. Best to spray when getting out of your car, when you are finished using it. When the car is in use,

OPEN THE WINDOWS.Take care,Mel > > Some of the newer posters here are not familiar with this person but I spoke with SOM today. He is one of our previous posters in which

has suffered this nightmare going on four years. In the last four weeks he has incorporated Ant bait traps in his home and is having such good results that he wanted to let you all know. The traps have pheromones that attracts ants, but we both are of the feeling that whatever these "things" are are attracted to a multitude of pheromones. He wanted to let you all know the good results he was having. He said it took> about a week to feel a decrease and over the course of the next three weeks, the activity has gone down to almost zero. He is doing weekly laundry now and gets no activity at his computer or while he is sleeping. He said that he places the traps near his computer, under his bed, etc. > > How these traps may be working. The pheromones attract, they enter, and may feed on the bait. So they may ingest some portion and then go back to their "nest" The exposure to the rest in the nest occurs due to the exposure of thebugs exoskeleton

and legs, etc. They carry the compound back on their bodies, spreading the compound to others in which may alsoingest/breathe or expose their own bodies to the original bug. The original bug dies from the ingestion/inhalatio n or external> > The end of fritos post. > > > 2. > Aspartame is the sweetening ingredient in NutraSweet. ... Blaylock, neurosurgeon, said, "The ingredients stimulates the neurons of the ...> www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/nutrasweet.htm - Cached> > http://search./search?p=Nutrasweet+ingredients & ei=ISO-8859-1 & iscqry= & fr=sfp> > > > > I opened two packets of aspartame sweetener, and dumped one in a corner of each of our bathrooms. That was about 2 years ago and I have not seen any carpenter ants for about 9 to 12 months. It works better

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March 26, 2011

Many Thanks :-) I've just realized that i am using a cleaner with d-limonene

already for quite some time. Don't know how much is in there, but it says on the

label 'orange cleaner with d-limonene'.

You just gave me some new ideas, because there are these big outdoor candles,

supposed to keep the critters away sitting on your patio at night. I know that

these also have d-limonene in them. I will go and burn some in the house while i

am at work and vent thoroughly coming back in.

I am happy for you that you cleared yourself of these horrible pests. What did

you do internally though ? Sorry to bother you with all these questions!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>If the ozone thing works, I would like to try it for my car

also, I have moved 3

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>times, but the bug incubator (my car) isÂ still infested,

sometimes it goes down

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> > > > > > > > > >>a little, but then they bulk up again.

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>________________________________

> > > > > > > > > >>From: Aggi <aggi_assmann@>

> > > > > > > > > >>bird mites

> > > > > > > > > >>Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 5:37:37 PM

> > > > > > > > > >>Subject: How about ozone?

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>Â

> > > > > > > > > >>Hi All,

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>Has anyone ever been successful by using ozone generators

for killing birdmites?

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>I have learnt that ozone kills every living organism in the

air, e.g. bacteria,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>fungus, mold, dustmites. Last week i have been talking to a

lady of a company

> > > > > > > > > >>where you can lease ozone generators. She promised me to do

some research and

> > > > > > > > > >>got back to me today, saying that she talked to some experts

and they said that

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>i should be able to eradicate birdmites with it. As i need

to get 2 generators

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>for producing enough ozone and because the generators are

quite costly,

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>i'd love to get your opinion prior to leasing. I might try 1

generator first for

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >>the car and see if it works as this vehicle is just the

worst place to be at.

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March 26, 2011

Hi. Yeah, Cyonara and Nylar are toxic, but I used so many things, most toxic, in my car. After the removal of the carpet, things got better in there. That's why I say to open the windows. It's being sprayed on the floor of the car and a small amount on seats. This works better than anything else I have used. I guess it all depends on how infested you are, as a person, as to how the car does, too.

Take Care,

Mel

From: Doris Kennedy <kean2465@...>Subject: Re: Re: How can I clean the car once and for allbird mites Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 9:40 AM

From: iggydoll <iggydoll@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 5:20:22 AMSubject: Re: How can I clean the car once and for all That sounds very positive, maybe I won't buy ten thousand ant traps. But how toxic is it for humans? I'm trying hard to stay away from poisons. I previoulsy thought of removing the carpets in the car, both front seats are infested. Moreover, it's not a new car anyway and they are filthy. It's the weeek-end and I think I will do that. The seats are cloth, but I cover them with plastic.

Thank you so much, this site offers more than any professional service, medical,emotional, or exterminator company.

Hi Group. I did buy the ant traps and they didn't work. Sometimes, with these mitey mites, you need something a little more powerful. I did remove the carpet from the driver's side floor. What works really well is CYONARA mixed with an INSECT GROWTH REGULATOR NYLAR. These can be purchase from doyourownpestcontrol dot com. Mix a small amount with water and put it in a spray bottle and spray the areas where you sit in the car, the floor, the seat, the back of the seat and a small amount on steering wheel and stick shift. The mites DO NOT travel to other seats in the car, only where you sit. Make sure you spray the ceiling above your head, too.Use a hot wash cloth and clean the seat, floor, ceiling, steering wheel, stick shift. You can also spray 91% alcohol, too. Don't forget about the seat belts, as you handle the seat belts and mites will fall from your hand to whereever you touch. Someone once told me that you can

spray many things, but WIPING UP IS NECESSARY, and IT WORKS. If you have the energy, vacuum the driver's side area, too.I tried the CO2 tanks; extremely expensive, it costs $120 per tank and over $20 for a refill; they DO NOT WORK. I tried the extreme heat treating - NOT A GOOD IDEA, dangerous and expensive and IT DOESN'T WORK. I tried the menthol cyrstals, didn't work.Removing the carpet DID WORK. I know that removing the carpet is extreme and ugly, but it beats getting bit up and reinfested every time you drive your car. When you are dealing with something as powerful as invisible biting mites, the car acts as an incubator for these mites, you need to take drastic steps, but co2 tanks and extremely heat treating does not work. Ozone will destory things inside your car, like rubber, etc.Cyonara and Nylar did work for me. Best to spray when getting out of your car, when you are finished using it. When the car is in use,

OPEN THE WINDOWS.Take care,Mel > > Some of the newer posters here are not familiar with this person but I spoke with SOM today. He

is one of our previous posters in which has suffered this nightmare going on four years. In the last four weeks he has incorporated Ant bait traps in his home and is having such good results that he wanted to let you all know. The traps have pheromones that attracts ants, but we both are of the feeling that whatever these "things" are are attracted to a multitude of pheromones. He wanted to let you all know the good results he was having. He said it took> about a week to feel a decrease and over the course of the next three weeks, the activity has gone down to almost zero. He is doing weekly laundry now and gets no activity at his computer or while he is sleeping. He said that he places the traps near his computer, under his bed, etc. > > How these traps may be working. The pheromones attract, they enter, and may feed on the bait. So they may ingest some portion and then go back to their "nest" The exposure to the rest in the nest occurs

due to the exposure of thebugs exoskeleton and legs, etc. They carry the compound back on their bodies, spreading the compound to others in which may alsoingest/breathe or expose their own bodies to the original bug. The original bug dies from the ingestion/inhalatio n or external> > The end of fritos post. > > > 2. > Aspartame is the sweetening ingredient in NutraSweet. ... Blaylock, neurosurgeon, said, "The ingredients stimulates the neurons of the ...> www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/n/nutrasweet.htm - Cached> > http://search./search?p=Nutrasweet+ingredients & ei=ISO-8859-1 & iscqry= & fr=sfp> > > > > I opened two packets of aspartame sweetener, and dumped one in a corner of each of our bathrooms. That was about 2 years ago and I have not seen any

carpenter ants for about 9 to 12 months. It works better th

March 26, 2011

Hi Z M

Also I tead this

http://www.fao.org/docrep/X5042E/x5042E01.htm

Other ways that have been found effective in preventing and controlling

infestations are as follows:

1. Sanitation.

2. Exclusion of pests.

3. Low temperature - " freeze-outs " , refrigeration, aeration.

4. High temperature - heating of mills.

5. Moisture control - grain drying.

6. Aeration - cooling, drying, elimination of temperature gradients.

7. Protectants - chemicals, inert dusts, natural compounds.

8. Residual or contact insecticides.

9. Atmospheric gases - carbon dioxide, nitrogen.

10. Gamma radiation, radio and sonic waves, microwaves, infra-red radiation.

11. Pheromones.

12. Insect growth regulators.

13. Insect pathogens.

14. Predators.

15. Insect resistant packaging.

16. Resistant varieties.

An effective integrated pest management system should begin with comprehensive

planning to include all aspects of the problem, followed by the application of

preventive and control methods...

Bye ,

Pray hard & hit them from every angel, it is a bug kill it , it will die

,

Bill

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