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Kathy,

Organic pullets (@ 18 weeks) ready to start laying

eggs will go for $5.50 to $6 per hen. Most growers

will follow some sort of vaccination schedule-

depending on what they need to deal with in the grower

house and where the hens are going. I may decide to

grow a flock of 1200 from day-old chicks but not

until July. I'd be happy to help (advice if needed)

start your livestock part of the school. Sounds really

ambitious and interesting. Alvin

--- Kathy DeBoer <kdeboer@...> wrote:

> My mother had the Asian flu in 1957 and that was a

> bird flu. She was

> pregnant and got sick, in the hospital a couple

> days, then OK. My dad and I

> didn't get it and we all lived together. The only

> bird we had was a parakeet

> and we ate family style meals. There was another

> bird flu in the late

> 1960's. Neither was an epidemic and I think people

> sometimes forget that.

>

> I read one of the best selling bird flu books

> written by a MD and part of

> the book was about HSUS saying one difference is the

> unhealthy living

> conditions of birds today.

>

> I do have a couple questions for folks who raise

> chickens. We plan to get a

> small flock of layers this summer. We hope to open

> the school in 2009 and I

> think it will be fun to start raising some before

> then to educate ourselves.

>

> Is there a better place to purchase young layers?

> What are chickens

> vaccinated for and is that important or not? When I

> raised dogs, I

> vaccinated dogs myself against the deadly diseases

> and skipped the rest. My

> dogs didn't get sick because Will taught me about

> nutrition 25 years ago.

>

> Doing rescue work was a real eye opener. If you

> raise animals close to how

> mother nature intended, most don't get sick, or it

> is mild. Very sick dogs

> can often recover with TLC and proper nutrition. We

> have had more than one

> we called Lazarus.

>

> Kathy

>

>

>

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MacMurray Hatchery has awesome chickens, from common varieties to beautiful

heirlooms. Check them out at:

http://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com They also have a beautiful print catalog you

can request. R.

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Bird flu

My mother had the Asian flu in 1957 and that was a bird flu. She was

pregnant and got sick, in the hospital a couple days, then OK. My dad and I

didn't get it and we all lived together. The only bird we had was a parakeet

and we ate family style meals. There was another bird flu in the late

1960's. Neither was an epidemic and I think people sometimes forget that.

I read one of the best selling bird flu books written by a MD and part of

the book was about HSUS saying one difference is the unhealthy living

conditions of birds today.

I do have a couple questions for folks who raise chickens. We plan to get a

small flock of layers this summer. We hope to open the school in 2009 and I

think it will be fun to start raising some before then to educate ourselves.

Is there a better place to purchase young layers? What are chickens

vaccinated for and is that important or not? When I raised dogs, I

vaccinated dogs myself against the deadly diseases and skipped the rest. My

dogs didn't get sick because Will taught me about nutrition 25 years ago.

Doing rescue work was a real eye opener. If you raise animals close to how

mother nature intended, most don't get sick, or it is mild. Very sick dogs

can often recover with TLC and proper nutrition. We have had more than one

we called Lazarus.

Kathy

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  • 2 years later...

Why wasn't there a vax for the bird flu? I remember that a couple years ago, and it was really pushed that we were all going to die from the bird flu at some point. I can't believe big pharma would have let a chance like that go.

Holly

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It's called setting the stage. Prime the public to expect an inevitable pandemic, then when it comes, it's not a surprise and we'll be ready to roll up our sleeves.

This has been a long time in the making.

Winnie bird fluVaccinations > Why wasn't there a vax for the bird flu? I remember that a > couple years > ago, and it was really pushed that we were all going to die from > the bird > flu at some point. I can't believe big pharma would have let a > chance like > that go.> > Holly>

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You're right. They know how to promote their business.

President Bush suggested that US stockpile 10 Billion dollars worth of the bird flu vaccine.

It was a big score for Rumsfeld and his drug company.

Others also profited besides Bush and Rumsfeld. Schults was also in on it.

bird flu

Why wasn't there a vax for the bird flu? I remember that a couple years ago, and it was really pushed that we were all going to die from the bird flu at some point. I can't believe big pharma would have let a chance like that go.

Holly

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They were trying as I recall. I was in nursing school at the time. My

own personal belief is that they have been working their way up to

this.... working out the " bugs " over several of these scares. There was

also SARS not too far distant in time.

One thing that I learned at the protest was that both houses of the NYS

legislature did NOT pass the Gov and DOH heads initial request to mandate

the shots. It FAILED. Then because the CDC labelled it a level 6

pandemic that solved the problem...no legislative approval needed because

it is a " pandemic " . so they got their way by making the voting bodies

impotent.

I can only say that I can only conclude this head of the CDC and the Gov

and the head of the DOH in NYS MUST be in bed with the pharma cos. I

can't see how else this would happen. And how is it that the president

doesn't reign in this CDC person and/or replace her for someone who can

read epidemiological data? I have no trust in anything anymore. Anne NY

> Why wasn't there a vax for the bird flu? I remember that a couple years

> ago, and it was really pushed that we were all going to die from the bird

> flu at some point. I can't believe big pharma would have let a chance like

> that go.

>

> Holly

>

Anne and Trev

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