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Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her two

month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable. She had

band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and hot to the

touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every time, no matter

how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their child? They left the

party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried right there in front of

everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in pain, being injured, and their

own parents doing it to them.

Melinda C.

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At times like this we have to kinda take a step back and perhaps just drop a

little tiny hint.

Ask the parents, how many shots did the baby get today? Then suggest perhaps

only getting one at a time, or ask " have you thought about delaying them at

all? " Ask a question or two that would make them think a little bit about the

shot, what disease is that " supposed " to protect from? etc... just to get the

parents thinking.

So many parents don't even KNOW what shots the baby got, just that they got

them.... making them really think about it might bring them to thinking a little

more. If they happen to know exactly what shots the baby got, and are talking

in an easy manner, you can perhaps steer the conversation further...

I'm betting the parents don't like to see their own baby screaming and crying

like that either - and the idea of delaying or one at time might apeal to them,

and its easier to get that done than to totally talk them out of getting shots

at all.

Chelly

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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:03:48 +0000

Subject: So sad...just need to vent.

Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her two

month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable. She had

band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and hot to the

touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every time, no matter

how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their child? They left the

party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried right there in front of

everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in pain, being injured, and their

own parents doing it to them.

Melinda C.

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Chelly,

That's so true! I was one of those parents that didn't know what the shots were

and I never knew that I had other options. No one has ever said anything like

that to me. I wish someone did when I went thru that with my daughter. Good idea

on the questions. I may try that the next time with friends who are not familiar

with the vaxes.

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So sad...just need to vent.

Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her two

month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable. She had

band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and hot to the

touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every time, no matter

how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their child? They left the

party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried right there in front of

everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in pain, being injured, and their

own parents doing it to them.

Melinda C.

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I would be feeling the same way and although I would want to give my life long

lecture on being a nurse and not vaccinating, I would have simply said:

" Wow that sure is quite a mixture of who knows what ... if she had an allergic

reaction how would you ever know what caused it? " A minute later follow up with

" there is a better way you know. "

This would give her some food for thought and then SHE would initiate a

conversation giving YOU the opportunity to educate.

We must keep on keeping on.

KH

>

> Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her two

month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable. She had

band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and hot to the

touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every time, no matter

how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their child? They left the

party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried right there in front of

everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in pain, being injured, and their

own parents doing it to them.

>

> Melinda C.

>

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Poor baby. I wish I had known too. The doctor just tells you that crying and

fever are a normal reaction. Use Tylenol. It's horrible but when everyone you

know does it too you don't really even think to question it. Thankfully when my

daughter was 18 months one of my friends found out and told me. We both

immediately decided to never vax again. I shudder to think of what would have

happened with those 18 month shots considering that she was completely

overloaded with mercury already as we found out years later. Could have been

MUCH worse. My guess is full-blown autism. As it was daily migraines and gut

disorders were the norm as well as allergies, ADD and I assume Aspergers since

she fits the profile exactly if there's even such thing. I think it's all just

toxicity and brain damage, call it what you want.

Please warn your friends. Better to lose a friend and have a clean conscience.

If they found out later that you knew and didn't tell them they'd be pretty

upset too.

Sharon

>

> Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her two

month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable. She had

band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and hot to the

touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every time, no matter

how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their child? They left the

party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried right there in front of

everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in pain, being injured, and their

own parents doing it to them.

>

> Melinda C.

>

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At 10:32 PM 8/14/2009, you wrote:

>Poor baby. I wish I had known too. The doctor just tells you that

>crying and fever are a normal reaction. Use Tylenol. It's horrible

>but when everyone you know does it too you don't really even think

>to question it. Thankfully when my daughter was 18 months one of my

>friends found out and told me. We both immediately decided to never

>vax again. I shudder to think of what would have happened with

>those 18 month shots considering that she was completely overloaded

>with mercury already as we found out years later. Could have been

>MUCH worse. My guess is full-blown autism. As it was daily

>migraines and gut disorders were the norm as well as allergies, ADD

>and I assume Aspergers since she fits the profile exactly if there's

>even such thing. I think it's all just toxicity and brain damage,

>call it what you want.

>

>Please warn your friends. Better to lose a friend and have a clean

>conscience. If they found out later that you knew and didn't tell

>them they'd be pretty upset too.

>

>Sharon

They cry for hours because of the vaccine-induced

encephalitis - the varying degrees of the encephalitis

range from:

1. irritability

2. intractable crying

3. seizures

4. hyperactivity

5. ADD/ADHD

6. autism

7. death (SIDS & other)

And anything else in between - its because of the

inflammation of their little brains.

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The Mechanism of Encephalitic Damage from Vaccines

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The Myelin Sheath

An important part of human brain development involves the process of

myelination. A nerve is a conducting channel for electrochemical

impulses. The nerve can only conduct pulses of energy that a

succession of leaps along the fiber. Like insulation on an electric

wire, the fatty coating of myelin helps keep the pulses confined.

Brain Myelination Processes

* At birth, relatively few pathways have myelin insulation, and

the myelination process in the human brain continues from before

birth until at least 20 years old. Up until the age of 10 or so, vast

areas of the cortex are not yet myelinated, and up to the age of 20,

large areas of the frontal lobes are not yet myelinated. [Ref:

, The Nervous System, (Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott, 1969),

p.296.; Hart, Human Brain and Human Learning, (New York:

Longman Inc., White Plains) Books for Educators, Oak Creek, CA),p.119]

*

* Myelination processes begin in the phylogenetically older parts

of the brain, such as the brain stem, and then moves to the areas of

the nervous system that have developed recently in humans, the

prefrontal lobe and cortex. The processes spread through the nervous

system in developmental stages which vary slightly in each individual.

*

* The prefrontal portions of the cerebrum have a profound

influence on human behavior. [Hart, p.118] If an individual is

injected with vaccines, most of which have adjuvants which include

mercury and aluminum compounds and also include foreign proteins

(many of them from other species in which the vaccines are grown) and

biological organisms, unprotected nerves are impacted and alteration

of neurological development impacts subsequent behavior and learning

patterns to one degree or another.

*

* In 1947, Isaac Karlin suggested that stuttering was caused by

" delay in the myelinization of the cortical areas in the brain

concerned with speech. " In 1988, research by Dietrich and others

using MRI imaging of the brains of infants and children from four

days old to 36 months of age have found that those who were

developmentally delayed had immature patterns of myelination.

*

* It has also been found that impairment of these processes can

alter neural communication without necessarily causing severe CNS

damage. So, these facts have been satisfactorily proven by science,

but ignored and suppressed by mainstream medical establishment.

Babies and children pay the price, and society pays the price when

these individuals grow up and begin to exhibit aberrant behavior,

affecting social structure, increasing crime and necessitating more

authoritarian social control mechanisms.

Vaccines, Neuroallergic Reaction and Brain Damage

* The exact role of the allergic reaction in encephalitis was not

completely understood until about 1935, with the discovery by

Rivers of the phenomenon known as " experimental allergic

encephalomyelitis, " or (EAE). Up until 1935, it was assumed that

encephalitis was caused by some viral or bacterial infection of the

nervous system, and a search began in the 1920's for some organism

that might cause the problem. Rivers was able to produce brain

inflammation in laboratory monkeys by injecting them repeatedly with

extracts of sterile normal rabbit brain and spinal cord material, and

this made it quite apparent that encephalitis was an allergic

reaction. This explains the association of allergies and autoimmune

states with prior cases of encephalitis.

*

* In 1922, the smallpox vaccination program caused an outbreak of

encephalitis, with a secondary result of Guillain-Barre Syndrome, an

ascending paralysis ending in death. For some reason, the fact that

the vaccinations were directly connected was hidden from the public

until 1942. In 1953 it was realized that some of the epidemic

children's diseases, measles in particular, were demonstrating an

increased propensity to attack the central nervous system. This

indicated a growing allergic reaction in the population to both the

diseases and the vaccinations for the diseases. In 1978, British

researcher Bannister observed that the demyelinating diseases

were getting more serious " because of some abnormal process of

sensitization of the nervous system. "

*

I submit that the process of increased sensitivity was a normal

occurrence - it could only be seen as abnormal if the connection

between the vaccines and the sensitization process, which by then

should have been obvious with the research conducted, was

deliberately ignored. The fact of the matter is that it is a matter

of record that it was known that vaccinations produced encephalitis

since 1926. The sensitization of the population was being enhanced by

vaccination programs. Someone had to know, since the connection was a

matter of record.

We can see that the association between post-encephalitic syndrome

and either demyelination or incomplete myelination of the brain is

pretty straight forward. In might be mentioned at this point that

polio, or poliomyelitis, involves a breakdown of the myelin sheath,

which causes paralysis. We also know that encephalitis, whether

caused through disease or as a result of vaccination, can cause

demyelination of the nerves, and that this has been known since the

1920's. Since the developmental neurobiology of the human brain has

not changed, but the AMA statement has, we can only conclude that

they are deliberately and knowingly, at the top levels connected in

bed with the pharmaceutical companies, allowing brain damage to be

continually perpetrated on the population in order to provide the

basis for long-term medical profit treating subsequent medical and

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This may sound harsh but if you speak up, those " own parents doing it to them "

might begin to understand that they have been lied to by those they trust, and

you will save just that one baby from further injury. Please don't judge them,

help to enlighten them.

I have cried in public when I've heard THE scream, and believe me, it gives a

big opportunity to tell parents the truth. I don't cry any more, but my heart

jumps into my throat - difficult to speak, so prayer helps me find my voice. So

much the better if there are lots of people present. I can't speak in public to

an organised group, but I can find the courage in informal gatherings, even if

my knees shake and my voice quavers.

When her daughter had a reaction and she decided not to vaccinate again, a

friend asked me why I hadn't told her about DS. I had known her for 10 years

prior and EVERYONE knows why DH is the way he is! Even the people at the local

gas station, greengrocer, dentist, doctor etc. (It's quite useful that DH tends

to boom when he talks.) I had specifically been telling her since I knew she was

pregnant, but she was so wrapped up in being an ap lactivist and a " yummy mummy "

she never " heard " what I was saying. Had to suggest she start reading all the

info I had given her. She had to wipe the dust off it!

I am still trying to get through to her about nutrition - it breaks my heart to

see a photo of her, " slung " baby being publicly bf in Mcs while she hoes

into McD non-food!!!! This baby isn't vaxed and is very lucky his mother's body

is filtering the garbage. He is still sick all the time though. Ear infections,

gastroenteritis, bronchitis. Extended bf hasn't helped.

Sooooo...sorry folks, that's my vent for the month. A friend is ill, not much

time for vactivism for a while.

Love,

Mara

spanishmiss wrote:

>

> Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her two

month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable. She had

band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and hot to the

touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every time, no matter

how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their child? They left the

party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried right there in front of

everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in pain, being injured, and their

own parents doing it to them.

>

> Melinda C.

>

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Oh, I hope it didn't come off as trying to judge them. I was just so upset! This

is a friend who I have talked to about vaccines at length - she knows exactly

how we feel, why we don't do it, etc. She is on my facebook so she sees and even

has commented on some of vaccine posts. So it's not like she's totally

uninformed. And she truly felt awful last night and was very worried about the

baby, so hopefully it will make her think twice.

Melinda C.

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Mention that Tylenol is terrible to give after shots! 's shots just

knocked her out all day at 2 months. the only shots she got " on

time " .--however, I probably would never have given another shot again if she

had screamed all day. maybe she should have!?

I wish they'd do their research better on the gluthi.. whatever it is. I

can't spell it and I can't say it.. the stuff that helps the body detox and

that tylenol lowers.

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Yes, me too. I was so incredibly naive, that I thought kept getting

" some sort of virus " everytime he went to the doctors for his shots! He was

always sick afterwards. As I have said before, I don't dwell in guilt, but

really, I had no idea that vaccines could cause this sort of damage. Ignorance

IS NOT BLISS. I am a pretty open-minded person - I would have given

consideration to the advice of someone warning me. But no one did. Not one

single person. This was before I spent much time on the internet. It wasn't

untill after he was severely injured did I say " oh GOD what do I do? How can I

find out more to help him? " Then something told me to get on-line. And there I

found hundreds of stories that un-folded exactly like mine.

And I found out that giving Tylenol was one of the worse possible things I could

do - it depletes glutathione, needed for detoxification.

What I would do to have had that information THEN! New parents are so lucky that

this information is available. I tell parents. If they don't listen, then that

is up to them. But at least I did my part.

Sylvia

> >

> > Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her two

month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable. She had

band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and hot to the

touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every time, no matter

how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their child? They left the

party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried right there in front of

everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in pain, being injured, and their

own parents doing it to them.

> >

> > Melinda C.

> >

>

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Sylvia

You wern't naive.

you were lied to from every direction. Medical, Government and school.

Remember your high school Biology book. No matter what grade anyone received

they always left that class with one thought burned into their mind.

VACCINES ARE SAFE AND PREVENT DISEASE.

For those of you that are mad and into helping others you need to get into the

schools and start asking hard questions, like who's responsible for the no shots

no school lie. And why aren't  the exemptions posted in ALL school policy books.

Do not these omissions tell you that the allopaths are in charge of what your

kids learn.

It is the schools that are setting up the kids to be life long customers for the

allopaths.

Jim

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 9:54:26 AM

Subject: Re: So sad....just need to vent.

 

Yes, me too. I was so incredibly naive, that I thought kept getting

" some sort of virus " everytime he went to the doctors for his shots! He was

always sick afterwards. As I have said before, I don't dwell in guilt, but

really, I had no idea that vaccines could cause this sort of damage. Ignorance

IS NOT BLISS. I am a pretty open-minded person - I would have given

consideration to the advice of someone warning me. But no one did. Not one

single person. This was before I spent much time on the internet. It wasn't

untill after he was severely injured did I say " oh GOD what do I do? How can I

find out more to help him? " Then something told me to get on-line. And there I

found hundreds of stories that un-folded exactly like mine.

And I found out that giving Tylenol was one of the worse possible things I could

do - it depletes glutathione, needed for detoxification.

What I would do to have had that information THEN! New parents are so lucky that

this information is available. I tell parents. If they don't listen, then that

is up to them. But at least I did my part.

Sylvia

> >

> > Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her two

month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable. She had

band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and hot to the

touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every time, no matter

how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their child? They left the

party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried right there in front of

everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in pain, being injured, and their

own parents doing it to them.

> >

> > Melinda C.

> >

>

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Right. We're told they must have picked up something in the waiting room from

the germy kids or toys. They picked up something all right but in the doctor's

office.

I, likewise, never had one person say watch out for vaccines. You heard through

the grapevine that maybe rare reactions occurred to strangers far away and the

docs will say, oh I've never seen any reactions if you do happen to question

them. But not one person ever warned me, either until my son was three.

This was in 1993. I did not own a computer until 2000. I never heard of autism.

I only found info in the form of Neil 's book in the waiting room of my

naturopath--whom I went to, by the way, for treatment for my son's asthma after

a homeopathic vet pointed out the vaccine connection. So I had to be alerted

from a VET after the fact, not a PED beforehand.

Winnie

Re: So sad...just need to vent.

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> Yes, me too. I was so incredibly naive, that I thought

> kept getting " some sort of virus " everytime he went to the

> doctors for his shots! He was always sick afterwards. As I have

> said before, I don't dwell in guilt, but really, I had no idea

> that vaccines could cause this sort of damage. Ignorance IS NOT

> BLISS. I am a pretty open-minded person - I would have given

> consideration to the advice of someone warning me. But no one

> did. Not one single person. This was before I spent much time on

> the internet. It wasn't untill after he was severely injured did

> I say " oh GOD what do I do? How can I find out more to help

> him? " Then something told me to get on-line. And there I found

> hundreds of stories that un-folded exactly like mine.

>

> And I found out that giving Tylenol was one of the worse

> possible things I could do - it depletes glutathione, needed for

> detoxification.

>

> What I would do to have had that information THEN! New parents

> are so lucky that this information is available. I tell parents.

> If they don't listen, then that is up to them. But at least I

> did my part.

>

> Sylvia

>

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Good to “hear” your posts again Maracuja, I’ve missed listening to you!

Chris

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Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:48 AM

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Subject: Re: Re: So sad...just need to vent.

This may sound harsh but if you speak up, those " own parents doing it to

them " might begin to understand that they have been lied to by those they

trust, and you will save just that one baby from further injury. Please

don't judge them, help to enlighten them.

I have cried in public when I've heard THE scream, and believe me, it gives

a big opportunity to tell parents the truth. I don't cry any more, but my

heart jumps into my throat - difficult to speak, so prayer helps me find my

voice. So much the better if there are lots of people present. I can't speak

in public to an organised group, but I can find the courage in informal

gatherings, even if my knees shake and my voice quavers.

When her daughter had a reaction and she decided not to vaccinate again, a

friend asked me why I hadn't told her about DS. I had known her for 10 years

prior and EVERYONE knows why DH is the way he is! Even the people at the

local gas station, greengrocer, dentist, doctor etc. (It's quite useful that

DH tends to boom when he talks.) I had specifically been telling her since I

knew she was pregnant, but she was so wrapped up in being an ap lactivist

and a " yummy mummy " she never " heard " what I was saying. Had to suggest she

start reading all the info I had given her. She had to wipe the dust off it!

I am still trying to get through to her about nutrition - it breaks my heart

to see a photo of her, " slung " baby being publicly bf in Mcs while she

hoes into McD non-food!!!! This baby isn't vaxed and is very lucky his

mother's body is filtering the garbage. He is still sick all the time

though. Ear infections, gastroenteritis, bronchitis. Extended bf hasn't

helped.

Sooooo...sorry folks, that's my vent for the month. A friend is ill, not

much time for vactivism for a while.

Love,

Mara

spanishmiss wrote:

>

> Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her

two month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable.

She had band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and

hot to the touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every

time, no matter how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their

child? They left the party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried

right there in front of everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in

pain, being injured, and their own parents doing it to them.

>

> Melinda C.

>

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They confuse " common " with " normal. "

Winnie

Re: So sad...just need to vent.

Vaccinations

> Poor baby. I wish I had known too. The doctor just tells you

> that crying and fever are a normal reaction. Use Tylenol. It's

> horrible but when everyone you know does it too you don't really

> even think to question it. Thankfully when my daughter was 18

> months one of my friends found out and told me. We both

> immediately decided to never vax again. I shudder to think of

> what would have happened with those 18 month shots considering

> that she was completely overloaded with mercury already as we

> found out years later. Could have been MUCH worse. My guess is

> full-blown autism. As it was daily migraines and gut disorders

> were the norm as well as allergies, ADD and I assume Aspergers

> since she fits the profile exactly if there's even such thing.

> I think it's all just toxicity and brain damage, call it what

> you want.

>

> Please warn your friends. Better to lose a friend and have a

> clean conscience. If they found out later that you knew and

> didn't tell them they'd be pretty upset too.

>

> Sharon

>

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I can't imagine if one of my friends knew and never told me...

I would however feel like an idiot if my friend warned me and I never took it

seriously.

I think everyone knows how I feel...if they don't agree with it so be it, but

they know they

can always come to me and ask  me anything...How many times have I gotton that

phone call...

what should I do my child has....

I'm just greatful that they feel like they can ask me.

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From: " wharrison@... " <wharrison@...>

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Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:00:40 PM

Subject: Re: Re: So sad...just need to vent.

 

They confuse " common " with " normal. "

Winnie

Re: So sad...just need to vent.

Vaccinations

> Poor baby. I wish I had known too. The doctor just tells you

> that crying and fever are a normal reaction. Use Tylenol. It's

> horrible but when everyone you know does it too you don't really

> even think to question it. Thankfully when my daughter was 18

> months one of my friends found out and told me. We both

> immediately decided to never vax again. I shudder to think of

> what would have happened with those 18 month shots considering

> that she was completely overloaded with mercury already as we

> found out years later. Could have been MUCH worse. My guess is

> full-blown autism. As it was daily migraines and gut disorders

> were the norm as well as allergies, ADD and I assume Aspergers

> since she fits the profile exactly if there's even such thing.

> I think it's all just toxicity and brain damage, call it what

> you want.

>

> Please warn your friends. Better to lose a friend and have a

> clean conscience. If they found out later that you knew and

> didn't tell them they'd be pretty upset too.

>

> Sharon

>

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I hope so and that it is not too late

Hopefully she will be calling you

Sheri

At 07:17 AM 8/15/2009, you wrote:

>Oh, I hope it didn't come off as trying to judge them. I was just so

>upset! This is a friend who I have talked to about vaccines at

>length - she knows exactly how we feel, why we don't do it, etc. She

>is on my facebook so she sees and even has commented on some of

>vaccine posts. So it's not like she's totally uninformed. And she

>truly felt awful last night and was very worried about the baby, so

>hopefully it will make her think twice.

>

>Melinda C.

>

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SO true Jim!

This is exactly part of the reason I homeschool. We skipped the vaccine

chapter completely in my son's biology class this year. I asked him what

he knew about vaccines, he said they were poison, we moved on.......his

teacher didn't even question it. I guess after getting to know me for

the last year they've learned not to, lol. From what I remember we

skipped quite a bit in that book.

-

> Remember your high school Biology book. No matter what grade anyone

received they always left that class with one thought burned into their

mind.

>

> VACCINES ARE SAFE AND PREVENT DISEASE.

>

> For those of you that are mad and into helping others you need to get

into the schools and start asking hard questions, like who's responsible

for the no shots no school lie. And why aren't the exemptions posted in

ALL school policy books.

>

> Do not these omissions tell you that the allopaths are in charge of

what your kids learn.

>

> It is the schools that are setting up the kids to be life long

customers for the allopaths.

>

> Jim

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Good for you.

I went over that book page by page with my Granddaughter..

Jim

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From: kimberlyire <kimberlyire@...>

Vaccinations

Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 2:23:59 PM

Subject: Re: So sad...just need to vent.

 

SO true Jim!

This is exactly part of the reason I homeschool. We skipped the vaccine

chapter completely in my son's biology class this year. I asked him what

he knew about vaccines, he said they were poison, we moved on.......his

teacher didn't even question it. I guess after getting to know me for

the last year they've learned not to, lol. From what I remember we

skipped quite a bit in that book.

-

> Remember your high school Biology book. No matter what grade anyone

received they always left that class with one thought burned into their

mind.

>

> VACCINES ARE SAFE AND PREVENT DISEASE.

>

> For those of you that are mad and into helping others you need to get

into the schools and start asking hard questions, like who's responsible

for the no shots no school lie. And why aren't the exemptions posted in

ALL school policy books.

>

> Do not these omissions tell you that the allopaths are in charge of

what your kids learn.

>

> It is the schools that are setting up the kids to be life long

customers for the allopaths.

>

> Jim

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And of course this would be pooh-poohed as a " normal " reaction. So sad...I

agree with you.

Lori

---- spanishmiss430 <spanishmiss430@...> wrote:

> Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her two

month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable. She had

band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and hot to the

touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every time, no matter

how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their child? They left the

party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried right there in front of

everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in pain, being injured, and their

own parents doing it to them.

>

> Melinda C.

>

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" For those of you that are mad and into helping others you need to get into

the schools and start asking hard questions, like who's responsible for the

no shots no school lie. And why aren't the exemptions posted in ALL school

policy books. "

I consider myself fairly well educated and very involved in my children's

lives. I never knew that there was a choice in vaxing until we started

homeschooling child #5. I have never felt so stupid in my life. He had all

his shots before I knew better. I wonder how much of his severe dyslexia is

on account of what I did to him with the shots. I just could kick myself -

really hard. This has really been a hard " pill to swallow " with all I have

learned just since we started homeschooling 6 years ago, plus the vast

amounts I am learning from all of you.

Barb - Tx

-- Re: So sad....just need to vent.

Yes, me too. I was so incredibly naive, that I thought kept getting

" some sort of virus " everytime he went to the doctors for his shots! He was

always sick afterwards. As I have said before, I don't dwell in guilt, but

really, I had no idea that vaccines could cause this sort of damage.

Ignorance IS NOT BLISS. I am a pretty open-minded person - I would have

given consideration to the advice of someone warning me. But no one did. Not

one single person. This was before I spent much time on the internet. It

wasn't untill after he was severely injured did I say " oh GOD what do I do?

How can I find out more to help him? " Then something told me to get on-line.

And there I found hundreds of stories that un-folded exactly like mine.

And I found out that giving Tylenol was one of the worse possible things I

could do - it depletes glutathione, needed for detoxification.

What I would do to have had that information THEN! New parents are so lucky

that this information is available. I tell parents. If they don't listen,

then that is up to them. But at least I did my part.

Sylvia

> >

> > Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her

two month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable.

She had band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and

hot to the touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every

time, no matter how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their

child? They left the party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried

right there in front of everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in

pain, being injured, and their own parents doing it to them.

> >

> > Melinda C.

> >

>

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and I also wonder if people think that vaccines are required for

school, why they aren't out in the street protesting this violation

of their rights.

Sheri

At 07:28 PM 8/15/2009, you wrote:

> " For those of you that are mad and into helping others you need to get into

>the schools and start asking hard questions, like who's responsible for the

>no shots no school lie. And why aren't the exemptions posted in ALL school

>policy books. "

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or

http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email

courses - next classes start September 9 & 10

http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or

http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm

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My bil was teaching a " social " studies class years ago - more like propaganda,

at a high school. When he got to the vaccines are safe & have saved the world

dreck, all he said was,  " You and your parents may or may not agree with that

statement, " & an unvaccinated 14 year old stood up and educated that class on

the vaccine menace. My bil was rapt. It spread - all he had to do was relate

what his pupil had said, to other classes. He did it for years and got them to

research the history, WITHOUT the internet. Some of those pupils do not

vaccinate their children and they know what Jim knows! My bil is still teaching!

Sow the seeds and never give up!

Don't beat yourself up - it's unproductive and it can paralyse you with guilt.

So many of us have been on that road. Have a hug! :-)

Mara

From: Barbara J. Paduh <txscrapper@...>

Subject: Re: Re: So sad...just need to vent.

Vaccinations

Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 7:28 PM

" For those of you that are mad and into helping others you need to get into

the schools and start asking hard questions, like who's responsible for the

no shots no school lie. And why aren't  the exemptions posted in ALL school

policy books. "

I consider myself fairly well educated and very involved in my children's

lives. I never knew that there was a choice in vaxing until we started

homeschooling child #5.  I have never felt so stupid in my life.  He had all

his shots before I knew better.  I wonder how much of his severe dyslexia is

on account of what I did to him with the shots.  I just could kick myself -

really hard.  This has really been a hard " pill to swallow " with all I have

learned just since we started homeschooling 6 years ago, plus the vast

amounts I am learning from all of you.

Barb - Tx

-- Re: So sad....just need to vent.

 

Yes, me too. I was so incredibly naive, that I thought kept getting

" some sort of virus " everytime he went to the doctors for his shots! He was

always sick afterwards. As I have said before, I don't dwell in guilt, but

really, I had no idea that vaccines could cause this sort of damage.

Ignorance IS NOT BLISS. I am a pretty open-minded person - I would have

given consideration to the advice of someone warning me. But no one did. Not

one single person. This was before I spent much time on the internet. It

wasn't untill after he was severely injured did I say " oh GOD what do I do?

How can I find out more to help him? " Then something told me to get on-line..

And there I found hundreds of stories that un-folded exactly like mine.

And I found out that giving Tylenol was one of the worse possible things I

could do - it depletes glutathione, needed for detoxification.

What I would do to have had that information THEN! New parents are so lucky

that this information is available. I tell parents. If they don't listen,

then that is up to them. But at least I did my part.

Sylvia

> >

> > Tonight we were at a party and one of my good friends was there with her

two month old baby girl, who was screaming bloody murder and inconsolable.

She had band aids all over her little legs, which were red and swollen and

hot to the touch. She had her shots today...it just breaks my heart every

time, no matter how many times I see it. How can anyone do that to their

child? They left the party early to go buy baby tylenol. I almost cried

right there in front of everyone. I can't stand all these babies being in

pain, being injured, and their own parents doing it to them.

> >

> > Melinda C.

> >

>

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wonderful story

Sheri

At 10:33 PM 8/15/2009, you wrote:

>My bil was teaching a " social " studies class years ago - more like

>propaganda, at a high school. When he got to the vaccines are safe &

>have saved the world dreck, all he said was, " You and your parents

>may or may not agree with that statement, " & an unvaccinated 14 year

>old stood up and educated that class on the vaccine menace. My bil

>was rapt. It spread - all he had to do was relate what his pupil had

>said, to other classes. He did it for years and got them to research

>the history, WITHOUT the internet. Some of those pupils do not

>vaccinate their children and they know what Jim knows! My bil is

>still teaching!

>Sow the seeds and never give up!

>Don't beat yourself up - it's unproductive and it can paralyse you

>with guilt. So many of us have been on that road. Have a hug! :-)

>

>Mara

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or

http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email

courses - next classes start September 9 & 10

http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or

http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm

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