Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Hi At 01:36 PM 7/29/2009, you wrote: >Well, my 2 year old is scheduled for a check up on Aug 4 my husband >wants to vaccinate, I DO NOT, however, I need to get through to him >and I want to bring paperwork with me to ask the right questions >because I am assuming the Dr. is going to push these vaccines. Would your husband take my online class along with you to get all the info in a methodical way? You will not be able to communicate with your doctor no matter what you bring with you. Don't even try. >Can anyone tell me if there is a site that simplifies the vaccine >issues, by telling what each one is for and why they are not necessary. No, there is not one site No vaccines give immunity All give harm on some level it takes educating yourself with each and every disease and each and every vaccine to understand it all as well as the dangers of all vaccines and why - ingredients, how they act, etc. > I want to get through to my husband and be well prepared for the > doctor. I am looking to find out if there is a site out there that > will break down very simply what each vaccine is for and why they > are not necessary. I am trying also to get my son out of a tetanus > shot that is due. Any help would greatly be appreciated. You will have to avoid the doctor's visit and start reading and researching and getting your husband on board. There is no easy answer. Will he read anything at all? If he won't how can he be part of the decision making. Sheri listowner Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Washington State, USA Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers, Childhood Disease Classes & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes start July 29 & 30 http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 What I would do is not even go for the checkup unless I had a medical issue that needed attention. Some feel the checkups are important. If you are one that feels this way, you do need to do one thing before you go. You need to look your child/baby directly into their eyes. Then you need to Promise him/her that you will not allow any vaccines today. You could also tell him/her that you will research any info the doc says before you ever agree to any vaccines. Once you look into your childs eyes and make this promise, it is hard to back down nomatter what the doctor says. You can always change your mind after researching what the doctor has to say. Something tells me you wont do that anyway. I hope this helps. You can also go to a family doc, chiro, or other doctor that is not a pediatrician. I have heard from others that non-pediatricians arent as pushy about vaccines. April > > > Well, my 2 year old is scheduled for a check up on Aug 4 my husband wants to vaccinate, I DO NOT, however, I need to get through to him and I want to bring paperwork with me to ask the right questions because I am assuming the Dr. is going to push these vaccines.. Can anyone tell me if there is a site that simplifies the vaccine issues, by telling what each one is for and why they are not necessary. I want to get through to my husband and be well prepared for the doctor. I am looking to > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 I think the simple solution is to ask your doctor who is accepting medical liability for a procedure that carries the risk of disability and death? Look at the first form for demanding the state or doctor administrating the vaccines accept medical liability here - http://www.vaclib.org/legal/accept.htm I would act very matter-of-factly about it. " OH, before we move ahead, could you please just sign this for me? " If they are willing to sign (since vaccines are so low risk), then your husband should have comfort in it. But, if he sees they are unwilling to sign for medical liability (and they won't), then he should KNOW there is something wrong there. Maybe you could agree with your husband that you willingness to vaccinate is based on the doctor's willingness to accept medical liability. See if he will agree to do that. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM, ejandls <ejandls@...> wrote: > > > Well, my 2 year old is scheduled for a check up on Aug 4 my husband wants > to vaccinate, I DO NOT, however, I need to get through to him and I want to > bring paperwork with me to ask the right questions because I am assuming the > Dr. is going to push these vaccines. Can anyone tell me if there is a site > that simplifies the vaccine issues, by telling what each one is for and why > they are not necessary. I want to get through to my husband and be well > prepared for the doctor. I am looking to find out if there is a site out > there that will break down very simply what each vaccine is for and why they > are not necessary. I am trying also to get my son out of a tetanus shot that > is due. Any help would greatly be appreciated. > Thank you in advance, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Too bad you and your husband are not in agreement on this. I don't know how firmly he wants to do this or what the dynamics are between you, so it's difficult to help in that area. Is he interested in reading up on it? If so, I would get Neil 's books--short, easy to read, packed full of info. There are no right questions to ask the doctor, unless you want to hear how wonderful and necessary vaccines are. You don't need to justify your decision to the doctor, whom YOU hire--not the other way around. You don't have to convince him/her of anything--and you won't. There are no papers, books or websites that will convince the doctor you know more about medicine that he/she does. The way to get your son out of the tetanus shot is to say NO. If you mean he needs it for school, you can file an exemption. Where do you live? Winnie Need advice before going to doctor can anyone help? Vaccinations > Well, my 2 year old is scheduled for a check up on Aug 4 my > husband wants to vaccinate, I DO NOT, however, I need to get > through to him and I want to bring paperwork with me to ask the > right questions because I am assuming the Dr. is going to push > these vaccines. Can anyone tell me if there is a site that > simplifies the vaccine issues, by telling what each one is for > and why they are not necessary. I want to get through to my > husband and be well prepared for the doctor. I am looking to > find out if there is a site out there that will break down very > simply what each vaccine is for and why they are not necessary. > I am trying also to get my son out of a tetanus shot that is > due. Any help would greatly be appreciated. > Thank you in advance, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Hi Everyone, I am new and a Grandmother of 4, all unvaxed and aged between 2 and 8 years.. My question regarding the forms at http://www.vaclib. org/legal/ accept.htm is to do with Refusal of Recommended Vaccines. Is this form relevant and can it be used against mandated vaccination and also how can any legal forms be effective if there is legislation in place protecting the Pharma companies, Governments and the Medical Profession against all liability? Forgive me if this subject has been posted before. Thanks heaps, > > > Well, my 2 year old is scheduled for a check up on Aug 4 my husband wants > to vaccinate, I DO NOT, however, I need to get through to him and I want to > bring paperwork with me to ask the right questions because I am assuming the > Dr. is going to push these vaccines. Can anyone tell me if there is a site > that simplifies the vaccine issues, by telling what each one is for and why > they are not necessary. I want to get through to my husband and be well > prepared for the doctor. I am looking to find out if there is a site out > there that will break down very simply what each vaccine is for and why they > are not necessary. I am trying also to get my son out of a tetanus shot that > is due. Any help would greatly be appreciated. > Thank you in advance, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Cancel the appointment till you can get through to your hubby. Tell him, that once those " things " have been injected, there is no getting them back out and he needs to be 100% sure of what he wants to do. Then state your side of the story. No need to get a doctor involved at all. Chelly Vaccinations From: ejandls@... Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:36:28 +0000 Subject: Need advice before going to doctor can anyone help? Well, my 2 year old is scheduled for a check up on Aug 4 my husband wants to vaccinate, I DO NOT, however, I need to get through to him and I want to bring paperwork with me to ask the right questions because I am assuming the Dr. is going to push these vaccines. Can anyone tell me if there is a site that simplifies the vaccine issues, by telling what each one is for and why they are not necessary. I want to get through to my husband and be well prepared for the doctor. I am looking to find out if there is a site out there that will break down very simply what each vaccine is for and why they are not necessary. I am trying also to get my son out of a tetanus shot that is due. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thank you in advance, _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA\ _HM_sports_photos_072009 & cat=sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Has your husband ever spoken to any families with vaccine injured childen? And I mean severe injuries, as I think most kids who have been vaccinated have mild injuries, or injuries that just aren't that obvious. I have two vaccine injured chidren. My youngest is injured severely - he has autism and cannot speak. I would talk to you or your husband anytime. sylviapimentel @ hotmail.com (no spaces) I am active the autism community in my area (Sacramento), and know dozens and dozens of families with simialr stories to ours. Our kids can and do make improvements, but few will recover to the point of where the were BEFORE vaccines. Best Wishes, Sylvia > > > Cancel the appointment till you can get through to your hubby. > > > > Tell him, that once those " things " have been injected, there is no getting them back out and he needs to be 100% sure of what he wants to do. Then state your side of the story. > > > > No need to get a doctor involved at all. > > Chelly > > > > > > Vaccinations > From: ejandls@... > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:36:28 +0000 > Subject: Need advice before going to doctor can anyone help? > > > > > > Well, my 2 year old is scheduled for a check up on Aug 4 my husband wants to vaccinate, I DO NOT, however, I need to get through to him and I want to bring paperwork with me to ask the right questions because I am assuming the Dr. is going to push these vaccines. Can anyone tell me if there is a site that simplifies the vaccine issues, by telling what each one is for and why they are not necessary. I want to get through to my husband and be well prepared for the doctor. I am looking to find out if there is a site out there that will break down very simply what each vaccine is for and why they are not necessary. I am trying also to get my son out of a tetanus shot that is due. Any help would greatly be appreciated. > Thank you in advance, > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA\ _HM_sports_photos_072009 & cat=sports > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Also have him read the paper work that comes with the vaccines. It actually says a moderate side effect is seizures! Seriously? SEIZURES ARE ONLY MODERATE????????? > > > > > > Cancel the appointment till you can get through to your hubby. > > > > > > > > Tell him, that once those " things " have been injected, there is no getting them back out and he needs to be 100% sure of what he wants to do. Then state your side of the story. > > > > > > > > No need to get a doctor involved at all. > > > > Chelly > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaccinations > > From: ejandls@ > > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:36:28 +0000 > > Subject: Need advice before going to doctor can anyone help? > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, my 2 year old is scheduled for a check up on Aug 4 my husband wants to vaccinate, I DO NOT, however, I need to get through to him and I want to bring paperwork with me to ask the right questions because I am assuming the Dr. is going to push these vaccines. Can anyone tell me if there is a site that simplifies the vaccine issues, by telling what each one is for and why they are not necessary. I want to get through to my husband and be well prepared for the doctor. I am looking to find out if there is a site out there that will break down very simply what each vaccine is for and why they are not necessary. I am trying also to get my son out of a tetanus shot that is due. Any help would greatly be appreciated. > > Thank you in advance, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. > > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA\ _HM_sports_photos_072009 & cat=sports > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Have you looked at fourteenstudies.org yet? Somebody mentioned it earlier on this group, it's an easy site to read, with some good info. Good luck in communicating with your husband. Annette > > vaclib.org > > > > > ________________________________ > From: ejandls <ejandls@...> > Vaccinations > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:36:28 PM > Subject: Need advice before going to doctor can anyone help? > > > Well, my 2 year old is scheduled for a check up on Aug 4 my husband wants to vaccinate, I DO NOT, however, I need to get through to him and I want to bring paperwork with me to ask the right questions because I am assuming the Dr. is going to push these vaccines.. Can anyone tell me if there is a site that simplifies the vaccine issues, by telling what each one is for and why they are not necessary. I want to get through to my husband and be well prepared for the doctor. I am looking to find out if there is a site out there that will break down very simply what each vaccine is for and why they are not necessary. I am trying also to get my son out of a tetanus shot that is due. Any help would greatly be appreciated. > Thank you in advance, > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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