Whooping Cough ...Re: measles jab

[Guest guest]

Having pertussis does not necessarily confer lifetime protection - and the

pertussis vaccine certainly does not. Both my husband and I were vaxed as

kids and both had pertussis. Any protection wears off after just a few

years and it constantly needs *boosting*. They are trying hard to capture

the adult market for this vaccine for this reason. Good for the $$$$s.

The vaccine has probably had more serious adverse reactions than any other -

I certainly wouldn't take a chance with it.

A good diet, and healthy lifestyle will all protect, and in addition I would

say that pertussis is less serious as the child gets older. It is very

treatable with homeopathy, and is really only a severe threat to very young

infants. I agree having an asthmatic child is a concern, but I would still

be more afraid of the vaccine.

Difficult call - I don't believe it works, but many people do. Question is,

is it worth the risk? How old is your son?

Sue x

-- Whooping Cough ...Re: measles jab

OK...what about the dreaded whooping cough?

A son with asthma...this is really a concern!

I've heard terrible stories!

If it was offered as a singe vaccine, I would

consider it.

What can I do to help my son and other children?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Yes, I was fully vaxed for WC did not stop me missing all my summer

break when I was 9, I dont remember being systemically ill, I just

remeber the coughing, I also suffered in lung capacity for a while

after, BUT, I was in a very poor family with very bad nutrition and I

did not see a doctor at all, I was basically left to get on with it,

what upset me most was missing swimming with my pals.

>

> Having pertussis does not necessarily confer lifetime protection -

and the

> pertussis vaccine certainly does not. Both my husband and I were

vaxed as

> kids and both had pertussis. Any protection wears off after just a

few

> years and it constantly needs *boosting*. They are trying hard to

capture

> the adult market for this vaccine for this reason. Good for the

$$$$s.

>

> The vaccine has probably had more serious adverse reactions than

any other -

> I certainly wouldn't take a chance with it.

>

> A good diet, and healthy lifestyle will all protect, and in

addition I would

> say that pertussis is less serious as the child gets older. It is

very

> treatable with homeopathy, and is really only a severe threat to

very young

> infants. I agree having an asthmatic child is a concern, but I

would still

> be more afraid of the vaccine.

>

> Difficult call - I don't believe it works, but many people do.

Question is,

> is it worth the risk? How old is your son?

>

> Sue x

>

> -- Whooping Cough ...Re: measles jab

>

> OK...what about the dreaded whooping cough?

> A son with asthma...this is really a concern!

> I've heard terrible stories!

> If it was offered as a singe vaccine, I would

> consider it.

> What can I do to help my son and other children?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi - the key is to learn the reality of whooping cough - only fearful

for those under 6 months, for the most part

and even then homeopathy is very successful with treatment.

Again - NO vaccine gives immunity ever. This is the key to understand.

Sheri

At 10:03 PM 2/11/2009, you wrote:

>OK...what about the dreaded whooping cough?

>A son with asthma...this is really a concern!

>I've heard terrible stories!

>If it was offered as a singe vaccine, I would

>consider it.

>What can I do to help my son and other children?

>

>Thanks!

>

>

>

> >

> > Measles used to be grouped in the same category as roseola and parvo

> > virus, two completely harmless childhood illnesses, all three were

> > treated as one. My son had roseola and it was nothing, measles

> > should not be much worse.

> > Vida

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

i am sorry for going on a bit but i wish i could be so sure about a decision to

vax with MMR or not vax.How can people reach this decision and how did people

reach this decision.I undertsand if a child was damaged with MMR but

otherwise?Please let me know!

Dawn

>OK...what about the dreaded whooping cough?

>A son with asthma...this is really a concern!

>I've heard terrible stories!

>If it was offered as a singe vaccine, I would

>consider it.

>What can I do to help my son and other children?

>

>Thanks!

>

>

>

> >

> > Measles used to be grouped in the same category as roseola and parvo

> > virus, two completely harmless childhood illnesses, all three were

> > treated as one. My son had roseola and it was nothing, measles

> > should not be much worse.

> > Vida

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

At 09:24 AM 2/13/2009, you wrote:

>i am sorry for going on a bit but i wish i could be so sure about a

>decision to vax with MMR or not vax.How can people reach this

>decision and how did people reach this decision.I undertsand if a

>child was damaged with MMR but otherwise?Please let me know!

>Dawn

Have you researched measles, the disease?

Have you researched mumps, the disease?

Have you researched rubella, the disease?

Why do you find them dangerous and want to vax?

Why do you believe vaccines give immunity - do you have proof?

Why do you fear these diseases?

I am 58 years old and literally everyone had these diseases with very

few problems

Sheri

listowner

>

>

> >OK...what about the dreaded whooping cough?

> >A son with asthma...this is really a concern!

> >I've heard terrible stories!

> >If it was offered as a singe vaccine, I would

> >consider it.

> >What can I do to help my son and other children?

> >

> >Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Measles used to be grouped in the same category as roseola and parvo

> > > virus, two completely harmless childhood illnesses, all three were

> > > treated as one. My son had roseola and it was nothing, measles

> > > should not be much worse.

> > > Vida

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

You might not ever be 100% sure of whether you're doing the right thing to vax

or not, at least not at the time. But you can be sure that every vaccine carries

the risk of death, no vaccine is guaranteed to work and the huge number of

parents who believe the MMR (or other vaccines) injured/killed their children

gain nothing from your decision either way.

For me, I gave my older two the MMR. I didn't know at the time I was going

through hell with my oldest's sudden asthma/allergy problem, that the MMR was

the cause. Once I put two and two together, I never gave any of my children any

vaccines again. That was 15 years ago. They're all alive and well. I am

convinced vaccines are the biggest scam going.

The question you should be asking is not whether to give the MMR or any other

vaccine, but what do your instincts tell you? What can you live with if the

outcome is not good either way? Could you live with yourself if your child

became autistic or died, having been warned that this has happened to thousands

if not hundreds of thousands of children? Go with your gut.

Winnie

Re: Whooping Cough ...Re: measles jab

Vaccinations

> i am sorry for going on a bit but i wish i could be so sure

> about a decision to vax with MMR or not vax.How can people reach

> this decision and how did people reach this decision.I

> undertsand if a child was damaged with MMR but otherwise?Please

> let me know!

> Dawn

>

>

>

> >OK...what about the dreaded whooping cough?

> >A son with asthma...this is really a concern!

> >I've heard terrible stories!

> >If it was offered as a singe vaccine, I would

> >consider it.

> >What can I do to help my son and other children?

> >

> >Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Measles used to be grouped in the same category as roseola

> and parvo

> > > virus, two completely harmless childhood illnesses, all

> three were

> > > treated as one. My son had roseola and it was nothing, measles

> > > should not be much worse.

> > > Vida

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Winnie,

I second what you say there. I do doubt myself, but then again, I trust

also God (I know others trust mother nature, the human body - for me

it's God).

BTW MMR - I had a bad reaction (got it 2005 as an adult) and just

learned that my older sister received it last year (she was planning her

current pregnancy) and had an equally horrible reaction as well. The MMR

is terrible, for everyone. She is now cautious of vaccines too (she's

not the doctor sister, I have a couple of sisters ). And I am glad

she listens to me. For now, she only considers vaccines that she

received as a kid, which is a huge step in the right direction.

wharrison@... wrote:

>

> You might not ever be 100% sure of whether you're doing the right

> thing to vax or not, at least not at the time. But you can be sure

> that every vaccine carries the risk of death, no vaccine is guaranteed

> to work and the huge number of parents who believe the MMR (or other

> vaccines) injured/killed their children gain nothing from your

> decision either way.

>

> For me, I gave my older two the MMR. I didn't know at the time I was

> going through hell with my oldest's sudden asthma/allergy problem,

> that the MMR was the cause. Once I put two and two together, I never

> gave any of my children any vaccines again. That was 15 years ago.

> They're all alive and well. I am convinced vaccines are the biggest

> scam going.

>

> The question you should be asking is not whether to give the MMR or

> any other vaccine, but what do your instincts tell you? What can you

> live with if the outcome is not good either way? Could you live with

> yourself if your child became autistic or died, having been warned

> that this has happened to thousands if not hundreds of thousands of

> children? Go with your gut.

>

> Winnie

>

> Re: Whooping Cough ...Re: measles jab

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>

> > i am sorry for going on a bit but i wish i could be so sure

> > about a decision to vax with MMR or not vax.How can people reach

> > this decision and how did people reach this decision.I

> > undertsand if a child was damaged with MMR but otherwise?Please

> > let me know!

> > Dawn

> >

> >

> >

> > >OK...what about the dreaded whooping cough?

> > >A son with asthma...this is really a concern!

> > >I've heard terrible stories!

> > >If it was offered as a singe vaccine, I would

> > >consider it.

> > >What can I do to help my son and other children?

> > >

> > >Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Measles used to be grouped in the same category as roseola

> > and parvo

> > > > virus, two completely harmless childhood illnesses, all

> > three were

> > > > treated as one. My son had roseola and it was nothing, measles

> > > > should not be much worse.

> > > > Vida

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

It's thinking you're sacrificing the protection from vaccines that causes the

doubt. Once you realize they don't work, or at the very least come to understand

the lack of a guarantee, then the doubts subside. I had doubts for several years

until I read more and understood more.

FYI--those doubts never came to be reality. The only serious illnesses I dealt

with after not vaccinating were unrelated to typical childhood diseases. It's

easy for me now to look back 15 years and know I did the right thing. It's a

little dicier when you're in the midst of it.

Winnie

Re: Whooping Cough ...Re: measles jab

> > Vaccinations

> >

> > > i am sorry for going on a bit but i wish i could be so sure

> > > about a decision to vax with MMR or not vax.How can people reach

> > > this decision and how did people reach this decision.I

> > > undertsand if a child was damaged with MMR but otherwise?Please

> > > let me know!

> > > Dawn

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >OK...what about the dreaded whooping cough?

> > > >A son with asthma...this is really a concern!

> > > >I've heard terrible stories!

> > > >If it was offered as a singe vaccine, I would

> > > >consider it.

> > > >What can I do to help my son and other children?

> > > >

> > > >Thanks!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Measles used to be grouped in the same category as roseola

> > > and parvo

> > > > > virus, two completely harmless childhood illnesses, all

> > > three were

> > > > > treated as one. My son had roseola and it was nothing, measles

> > > > > should not be much worse.

> > > > > Vida

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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