To Shari: Depression, long email

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Dear Sharri,

My heart goes out to you. I had a similar experience 8 years ago

following the birth of my first child. I got an unexpected dose of

postpartum anxiety and ocd. How about that treat for a first time

mom? It was the most horrible experience I've ever had, worse than

this.

I won't go into all the horrific details of it, but the baby and

I made it through it. My marriage was definitely rocky there. None

of us had a clue of what was happening. I had severe anxiety,

didn't want to leave the baby, didn't want anyone touching the baby,

had irrational fears of the baby being harmed.

Anyway, at three months I finally got the nerve to seek

treatment. It took me that long because I was afraid they would

take my baby. Anyway, my " wonderful " hmo told me I was depressed,

which I wasn't, but did become, because noone had properly diagnosed

me.

I finally found an awesome postpartum doctor up in Newton, Mass.

I emailed her and wrote her constantly. This wonderful woman told

me I wasn't crazy, told me I had classic anxiety/ocd, and gave me

all the information to take to my doctor.

During that time, I ended up trying about every kind of

antidepressant you can think of. They will automatically give you

meds and see how you do. Also let me say that if you are severely

depressed or suicidal, then take the meds, by all means. They will

at least help you get back on your feet so you can figure out the

best treatment plan for you. In the long run, what worked for me

was not the meds but behavior therapy.

I studied behavior therapy which is very cool. It teaches you to

modify the response to the things that stimulate the

depression,anxiety, etc. I still have the workbook and I found it

to be very effective. Also, interestingly, I found Inositol, which

is in the b-vitamin family. After a time I weaned myself off the

antidepressants and started the Inositol, which is used in Israel

and Europe, and started feeling much much better. Some holistic

doctors are combining that with 5htp and are getting more positive

results than with the SSRIs.

My hormones were all off kilter. I had had an emergency c-

section, which I feel triggered most of the problems. The

specialist in Mass. sees a lot of that with c-sections. There is

an overflow of the hormone Oxytocin because the body doesn't dispose

of it post-delivery like it would with a vaginal delivery.

Anyway, the stuff just plain lifted around the 2 year mark. I

have come a long way from that situation and learned a lot about

myself, how strong I really am, who my friends are and that God is

always with me. I never experienced that again, even with the

second baby.

When this implant junk struck me, I thought oh no, just my

luck!!! I seem to fall victim to these sorts of things. But so

far, no depression. What I am experiencing now so far is mostly

physical, except for some odd panic attacks that seem to strike.

It's sort of strange, I will get the feeling that I can't breathe.

I just blow it off and think maybe it's implant related, maybe not.

I will be praying for you and thinking of you. I think finding a

doctor that believes in you is so helpful. It's sort of a

validation that you are sane. Also, starting a treatment plan and

making goals is a must, in my opinion.

I'm wondering if your doctor got all the shell out. I know you

had textured and Dr Kolb has quite a lot to say about the textured

salines. I think it might be worth your while to email her.

I will keep you in my prayers and a verse that comes to mind

is, " This too shall pass. "

Hugs,

Beth

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Beth

you mentioned the feeling of not being able to breath. Are you

stressed or anxious right now ? That happened to me when i was very

anxious and usually deep relaxing breathing and at one point some

anti anxiety meds really helped me allot.

I hope you feel better soon.

I agree about the textured implants being a big nightmare, I know my

Dr went through hell to get them out. I am so glad I went to someone

that new how to remove those things, I shudder to think what might

have happened had I gone to a less experienced Dr, eek.

hugs and prayers

-

In , " bethlakey " <bethlakey@y...> wrote:

> Dear Sharri,

>

> My heart goes out to you. I had a similar experience 8 years

ago

> following the birth of my first child. I got an unexpected dose of

> postpartum anxiety and ocd. How about that treat for a first time

> mom? It was the most horrible experience I've ever had, worse than

> this.

> I won't go into all the horrific details of it, but the baby and

> I made it through it. My marriage was definitely rocky there.

None

> of us had a clue of what was happening. I had severe anxiety,

> didn't want to leave the baby, didn't want anyone touching the

baby,

> had irrational fears of the baby being harmed.

> Anyway, at three months I finally got the nerve to seek

> treatment. It took me that long because I was afraid they would

> take my baby. Anyway, my " wonderful " hmo told me I was depressed,

> which I wasn't, but did become, because noone had properly

diagnosed

> me.

> I finally found an awesome postpartum doctor up in Newton,

Mass.

> I emailed her and wrote her constantly. This wonderful woman told

> me I wasn't crazy, told me I had classic anxiety/ocd, and gave me

> all the information to take to my doctor.

> During that time, I ended up trying about every kind of

> antidepressant you can think of. They will automatically give you

> meds and see how you do. Also let me say that if you are severely

> depressed or suicidal, then take the meds, by all means. They will

> at least help you get back on your feet so you can figure out the

> best treatment plan for you. In the long run, what worked for me

> was not the meds but behavior therapy.

> I studied behavior therapy which is very cool. It teaches you

to

> modify the response to the things that stimulate the

> depression,anxiety, etc. I still have the workbook and I found it

> to be very effective. Also, interestingly, I found Inositol, which

> is in the b-vitamin family. After a time I weaned myself off the

> antidepressants and started the Inositol, which is used in Israel

> and Europe, and started feeling much much better. Some holistic

> doctors are combining that with 5htp and are getting more positive

> results than with the SSRIs.

> My hormones were all off kilter. I had had an emergency c-

> section, which I feel triggered most of the problems. The

> specialist in Mass. sees a lot of that with c-sections. There is

> an overflow of the hormone Oxytocin because the body doesn't

dispose

> of it post-delivery like it would with a vaginal delivery.

> Anyway, the stuff just plain lifted around the 2 year mark. I

> have come a long way from that situation and learned a lot about

> myself, how strong I really am, who my friends are and that God is

> always with me. I never experienced that again, even with the

> second baby.

> When this implant junk struck me, I thought oh no, just my

> luck!!! I seem to fall victim to these sorts of things. But so

> far, no depression. What I am experiencing now so far is mostly

> physical, except for some odd panic attacks that seem to strike.

> It's sort of strange, I will get the feeling that I can't breathe.

> I just blow it off and think maybe it's implant related, maybe not.

> I will be praying for you and thinking of you. I think finding

a

> doctor that believes in you is so helpful. It's sort of a

> validation that you are sane. Also, starting a treatment plan and

> making goals is a must, in my opinion.

> I'm wondering if your doctor got all the shell out. I know you

> had textured and Dr Kolb has quite a lot to say about the textured

> salines. I think it might be worth your while to email her.

>

> I will keep you in my prayers and a verse that comes to mind

> is, " This too shall pass. "

>

> Hugs,

> Beth

[Guest guest]

Shari,

Get your hormones checked. Take care.bethlakey <bethlakey@...> wrote:

Dear Sharri,My heart goes out to you. I had a similar experience 8 years ago following the birth of my first child. I got an unexpected dose of postpartum anxiety and ocd. How about that treat for a first time mom? It was the most horrible experience I've ever had, worse than this.I won't go into all the horrific details of it, but the baby and I made it through it. My marriage was definitely rocky there. None of us had a clue of what was happening. I had severe anxiety, didn't want to leave the baby, didn't want anyone touching the baby, had irrational fears of the baby being harmed.Anyway, at three months I finally got the nerve to seek treatment. It took me that long because I was afraid they would take my baby. Anyway, my "wonderful" hmo told me I was depressed, which I wasn't, but did become, because noone had properly

diagnosed me.I finally found an awesome postpartum doctor up in Newton, Mass. I emailed her and wrote her constantly. This wonderful woman told me I wasn't crazy, told me I had classic anxiety/ocd, and gave me all the information to take to my doctor. During that time, I ended up trying about every kind of antidepressant you can think of. They will automatically give you meds and see how you do. Also let me say that if you are severely depressed or suicidal, then take the meds, by all means. They will at least help you get back on your feet so you can figure out the best treatment plan for you. In the long run, what worked for me was not the meds but behavior therapy.I studied behavior therapy which is very cool. It teaches you to modify the response to the things that stimulate the depression,anxiety, etc. I still have the workbook and I found it to be very effective. Also, interestingly, I found Inositol, which is

in the b-vitamin family. After a time I weaned myself off the antidepressants and started the Inositol, which is used in Israel and Europe, and started feeling much much better. Some holistic doctors are combining that with 5htp and are getting more positive results than with the SSRIs.My hormones were all off kilter. I had had an emergency c-section, which I feel triggered most of the problems. The specialist in Mass. sees a lot of that with c-sections. There is an overflow of the hormone Oxytocin because the body doesn't dispose of it post-delivery like it would with a vaginal delivery.Anyway, the stuff just plain lifted around the 2 year mark. I have come a long way from that situation and learned a lot about myself, how strong I really am, who my friends are and that God is always with me. I never experienced that again, even with the second baby.When this implant junk struck me, I thought oh no, just my luck!!! I

seem to fall victim to these sorts of things. But so far, no depression. What I am experiencing now so far is mostly physical, except for some odd panic attacks that seem to strike. It's sort of strange, I will get the feeling that I can't breathe. I just blow it off and think maybe it's implant related, maybe not.I will be praying for you and thinking of you. I think finding a doctor that believes in you is so helpful. It's sort of a validation that you are sane. Also, starting a treatment plan and making goals is a must, in my opinion.I'm wondering if your doctor got all the shell out. I know you had textured and Dr Kolb has quite a lot to say about the textured salines. I think it might be worth your while to email her.I will keep you in my prayers and a verse that comes to mind is, "This too shall pass."Hugs,Beth

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In a message dated 5/20/2004 7:51:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, naturalbeauty38@... writes:

Bethyou mentioned the feeling of not being able to breath. Are you stressed or anxious right now ? That happened to me when i was very anxious and usually deep relaxing breathing and at one point some anti anxiety meds really helped me allot.I hope you feel better soon.I agree about the textured implants being a big nightmare, I know my Dr went through hell to get them out. I am so glad I went to someone that new how to remove those things, I shudder to think what might have happened had I gone to a less experienced Dr, eek.hugs and prayers-

i basically have a problem breathing but its only at night and when i go to lay down and i am not sure if this has anything to do with it or not....i use to have to wear a bra to bed as they hurt so so bad, now i can't because it makes me feel like i can't breathe at all...sounds weird but does anyone feel the same thing or am i like this because i use to be a smoker?? don't know thanks all bj

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In a message dated 5/21/2004 8:55:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, bethlakey@... writes:

have read that some chest pain and breathing difficulties are from fungal infections from the implants. I know some women on the explantation.com site who have had to do anti fungal treatments to get better.

Even with silicone is there worry of fungal infection???? hmmm wonder if i have to...thanks BJ

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That particular problem actually started about three months after

getting the implants, I started feeling a strange kind of anxiety,

not like before. Then a few days later the numbness and tingling

started in my arm, then later to my face and legs. I just figured

it was all tied together from the implants. I try not to focus on

it. I've never hyperventilated or anything, so hopefully it will go

away.

I have read that some chest pain and breathing difficulties are from

fungal infections from the implants. I know some women on the

explantation.com site who have had to do anti fungal treatments to

get better.

Hugs,

Beth

> In a message dated 5/20/2004 7:51:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> naturalbeauty38@y... writes:

> Beth

> you mentioned the feeling of not being able to breath. Are you

> stressed or anxious right now ? That happened to me when i was

very

> anxious and usually deep relaxing breathing and at one point some

> anti anxiety meds really helped me allot.

> I hope you feel better soon.

> I agree about the textured implants being a big nightmare, I know

my

> Dr went through hell to get them out. I am so glad I went to

someone

> that new how to remove those things, I shudder to think what might

> have happened had I gone to a less experienced Dr, eek.

> hugs and prayers

> -

> i basically have a problem breathing but its only at night and

when i go to

> lay down and i am not sure if this has anything to do with it or

not....i use

> to have to wear a bra to bed as they hurt so so bad, now i can't

because it

> makes me feel like i can't breathe at all...sounds weird but does

anyone feel the

> same thing or am i like this because i use to be a smoker?? don't

know

> thanks all bj