Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I am quite sure that it is possible for DDT to poison the body, to make it sick or even paralyze it. But I have a doubt that DDT caused every case of polio or the spraying of fruit trees with arsenic. First these sprays and DDT were used extensively all over the U.S. They even sprayed the city of Chicago with DDT hoping to kill their polio virus in the fifties. On the other hand there were so few cases of paralytic polio in the first place that you would think there would be a lot more cases if DDT and arsenic were the main cause. In the worst year which was 1952 they reported 21,269 cases of paralytic polio. I can't exactly remember but I think there were about three hundred million people in this country. If we just take 10% and say they ate poisoned fruit and were around other toxic chemicals, that would be thirty million people who would be subject to paralytic polio.. If only 21,000 had the condition I think that would make a strong argument against the DDT and other poisons . Because the question would be why didn't more people who ate the fruits or were contaminated with other toxic chemicals get it. Now you can add all the other toxic poisons that people were subjected to and that weakens the case even more. On a personal note during that time, there was no panic from my neighborhood parents about polio. I remember some one saying not to go swimming in lake Michigan, but the lake was always filled with swimmers. As far as spraying the fruit trees my friends and neighbors and I always ate from these trees and never washed the fruit. The point is my Uncle always sprayed the trees out of the back of his pickup truck. I don't even remember any one wearing a mask of any kind. I asked my older brother what he and my uncle were using in that spray and he said it was arsenic. I also attended four schools during the fifties: one being in California, a school of 3000 and only recall one girl with a whithered leg. The part of her book that appealed to me was the virus liquid. This is what I read about in all my old books. There was no virus like they teach today. That is they didn't pick out specks which was magnified 50,000 times and inject them into a body. Let me quote what they really did> Flexner, S. The transmission of poliomyelitis to monkeys, J.A.M.A. Nov. 13 1909. " The virus of poliomyelitis was carried successfully through a series of monkeys by intracranial inoculations of emulsions of the spinal cord of children who died of poliomyelitis. " Flexner again Dec. . 18, 1909. " Report of experiments the results of which indicated that the infecting agent of poliomyelitis " belongs to the class of minute and filterable viruses. " Like the lady in the book said the electron microscope was not invented until the 1930s. And the word virus to these people clearly meant poison. These sick and demented men ground up the spinal cords of dead kids, added their poisons and made the liquid soup and this is what they injected into the monkeys brain. When the monkey survived they concluded,assumed,guessed that the reason the monkey didn't get polio was because the virus(poison) injected into it created antibodies and then they concluded, assumed, guessed that if a body had developed antibody that these antibodies would attacked the so-called imaginary virus(bug) that they believed was the cause of polio or any other disease. Flexner again. " Lists a number of other animals in which the virus was introduced into the brain but without causing any appreciable effects. In paralyzed monkeys lesions similar to those in the cord and brain were found in the intervertebral ganglia " The key word here is lesions . Moving up to 1949 it was Enders they said grew the polio virus in tissue culture. What he really did was to inject his liquid poison into the monkey kidney cells and a few days later he saw the lesions(destroyed cells) and concluded, assumed, guessed that it was something in the liquid that destroyed the cells rather then the poison itself. In other words these idiots evidently didn't think that the poison had the power to destroy. They wanted to believe it was something alive they couldn't see. The term live virus, from the research I have been doing refers to the cell or actual disease that comes from a live cell or person. It is not a dead speck that magically comes alive. As far as what happen to polio in the 1950s let me quote. Leegaard, C. Poliomyelitis in Norway. 1914 " Leegaard also describes an outbreak in 1868 of 14 cases with five deaths, originally regarded as cases of meningitis. " Louria, L. " Personal experience of the abortive and meningitis types(of poliomyelitis) Arch. Pediat. 1916. Poynton, F.J. " The meningitic form of acute poliomyelitis. " Clin. J. 1919 Newark, N.J. Dept of Health. " Poliomyelitis, Meningitis, becoming rare. Forty second annual report, for year ending Dec. 31.. 1926, p. 45 And last but not least, because I am really tired the book I suggested the other day clearly says Salk did not concern himself with viruses. He believed that if there were antibodies in the blood then you were protected from polio period. He knew that almost any poison injected into the body could provoke the body into making antibodies. There is of course tons more of supporting evidence to the above quotes. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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