Re: Long overdue question

January 11, 2009

Welcome, Vira! You are very observant to question the blood in the poops, and

I'm stunned the doctor admitted it could have been from the vaccines. One of my

sons also had that (he was totally breastfed so it couldn't have been specks of

food). I had my doc send a sample out for testing and she said the test didn't

show blood. Knowing what I know now, I should have asked for the test results.

If your husband is willing to read up on this, I would give him a copy of Neil

's older book Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective? If he'd rather

research it online, I would have him take a look at the National Vaccine

Information Center website (nvic.org). There is so much out information there,

it can be overwhelming to sort through.

If he won't read up on this, then he isn't as interested in the issue so

shouldn't be a part of the decision. He can be in charge of other aspects of

parenthood. Not every child rearing decision has to be made by both parents.

Good luck!

Winnie

Long overdue question

Vaccinations

> Hello,

>

> I have been reading for a while but never posted before, so

> allow me

> to start with a little introduction. I am a mom to 7 month old baby

> girl. Before she was born I never really even heard about the

> vaccination issues, dangers or anything at all. I just accepted

> it as

> a norm of our life. However, a friend of mine, from my home country

> Ukraine started telling me about recent vaccination disaster and that

> did concern, but I honestly thought the issue with Ukrainian vaccines

> was in poor quality - they were made in India in insanely large

> quantities, so it is possible that there was little or no

> control of

> the quality. So I proceeded with the first set of vaccines at 2

> months. We are in Canada, so no vaccines were given to DD at birth,

> and at 2 month she was given four shots. I was more concerned about

> her being in pain from the shots at the time, and only wanted it to

> end as soon as possible. I felt horribly guilty for letting the doctor

> put needles in my baby and it just broke my heart. However, it turned

> out to be the least of my problems. Four hours after shots she started

> crying, for the first time she wouldn't take breast to comfort

> herself. She screamed for an hour without stopping and then she had

> some fever. I didn't give her any Tylenol, as I didn't feel it was

> necessary to put more chemicals in her. The next day my baby was back

> to normal - happy, healthy, just a little swollen in those places

> where the needle pierced the skin. However, when I changed her diaper

> I saw little tiny dots of blood in her poop. I made an appointment

> with my doctor and he confirmed that it could be a reaction to the

> shots. The blood dots remained in her poop for another 10-12 days.

> That is when I joined the group and researched the issue. I was never

> able to find an answer as to WHAT caused the blood. I read some

> literature on vaccines but I was unable to find an answer. If anyone

> has an explanation please kindly reply. I do realize that

> anything can

> be blamed on chemical cocktail in the vaccines, but I am looking for

> an actual cause. In case you are wondering, I am not vaccinating my

> girl any more and my doctor does not push me into it. He is actually

> one of those who says - Collect ALL the information you can and make

> an informed decision, I am here to tell you that you should vaccinate,

> but YOU as a parent need to make a decision. On the other side my

> husband feels that it is safer to vaccinate than not to. I am hoping

> that if any of you have any actual info on the topic I might be able

> to convince him.

>

> Thank you in advance to those who respond,

>

> Respectfully

>

> Vira

>

January 11, 2009

Hi Vira,

Welcome to our list. I'm sorry to hear of the events that led up to

you finding us though. It the hope of us here on this list that

someday all parents will be fully informed and that children will be

spared vaccine injury... it's not a rare thing at all, and if you stay

subscribed, you will soon find that out for yourself. Many on this

list are vaccine injured or have children that are vaccine injured, or

both.

Regarding the cause of the blood in the stool, well... you really

already know that; it was the vaccines (poisons). What specific

component of those poisons, or what exactly they did to the body to

cause the blood will likely remain a mystery. My suggestion is to

find a good classic homeopath to help your child completely recover

from her vaccine toxicity. Even children with no blatantly outward

signs of vaccine toxicity are served well by homeopathic treatment

after vaccines. Homeopathy doesn't look for a specific cause, it just

treats the individual. As such, it is highly specific and very

effective.

Winnie's book recommendation is a good one. There are quite a few

good books out there now, and many good websites. Sorting through all

the information can be quite overwhelming, but it does get less

confusing and less overwhelming after you've been digging for awhile.

There are many good websites on the subject of vaccine awareness...

here are a few that I recommend:

Sheri, our list owner, has put together a really good site here:

(http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm);

, a list mate, has a brilliant website that has tons and tons and

tons of info:

(http://whale.to/vaccines.html);

and finally, I like to refer to this website, because it kind of lays

a little groundwork to make it slightly easier to get started in the

research. It can be sightly less overwhelming to start here:

(http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2008/05/13/where-to-start/)

You can also find a list of ingredients in vaccines at the CDC's

website; if nothing else, show your husband these:

(http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-tabl\

e-1.pdf)

(http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-tabl\

e-2.pdf)

Hopefully your husband has an open mind and will be willing to look at

information that you present to him. Winnie's advice is excellent.

If he doesn't want to read up on the subject (with an open mind), then

the decision on that particular subject should not be left in his

hands. He wouldn't want to go out and purchase a car without first

researching makes/models/gas mileage/prices and whatever else is

important to him in a car... your child deserves at least as much

devotion as a car... all parents should read up on and know what is

being injected into their child. If one parent knows more on the

subject than the other, they should be the one making the decisions on

that subject. My husband and I do this all the time... share the

load. I make the vaccine decisions (which is NONE, EVER), he goes

along with me on that, but does not have the desire to research the

topic as well as I have... when we put my child in preschool, he made

the ultimate decision over WHICH school, after we both interviewed

each school, because he had done more research on the actual schools

than I had... I went along with it and feel confident that his choice

was the best for our child and our family.

Good for you for being here and wanting to find out the truth in order

to protect your child! Most parents spend far more time researching

the colors they are going to put in their nursery, or researching the

safety data on car seats than they ever do on the issue of vaccines

and knowing what exactly is being injected into their child's body.

It is not the parents fault; we are conditioned, as a society, to

never question our doctors or the " Powers that Be " , and we trust our

doctors to make the right choices for our health. Doing the research

isn't fun, but it is quite necessary in order to protect our future

generations.

Keep reading, reading and read some more! Again welcome aboard!

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:52 AM, vkrykus <vkrykus@...> wrote: