Re: Re: Desperate! Goldseal for ear infections

[Guest guest]

Great explanation, Arlynn. I've also understood it that we don't have the

enzymes to break down cow's milk because we're not cows. Not sure if that's

completely accurate, but maybe some people are bothered by this and others just

get used to it.

My oldest son had a milk allergy when he was young--terrible sleep problems,

asthma/wheezing (all gone now). We kept him off dairy for years, but he can have

it now. It's minimal though.

Winnie

Re: Desperate! Goldseal for ear infections

Vaccinations

> I didn't go into it in detail b/c it's OT, but since it seems

> important: There is such a thing as a true milk allergy where

> the body

> gets all inflamed with Histamines. BUT that is not very common.

> Usually what we call an allergy is our body not able to make the

>

> enzyme that digests the milk protein, casein. It does damage the

>

> intestines causing leaky gut and ends up with all kinds of

> health

> issues from the body attacking the proteins floating around the

> body

> where they don't belong. Sometimes this is neurological issues

> such as

> behaviour and sometimes its ear infections from mucus constantly

> being

> formed. It's an in depth subject but avoiding the casein

> altogether

> and giving enzymes such as Trienza when there has been an

> " accidental

> ingestion " , the body heals over time and then you just need to

> avoid

> the dairy ongoing to stay healthy. I have never heard of the

> body

> becoming able to start making those enzymes it lacks but would

> be all

> ears if someone has actual evidence that it has happened with a

> certain protocol (and not just in theory :-). In peace, Arlynn

>

[Guest guest]

What about giving the enzyme lactase?

On Oct 10, 2008, at 11:19 AM, wharrison@... wrote:

> Great explanation, Arlynn. I've also understood it that we don't

> have the enzymes to break down cow's milk because we're not cows.

> Not sure if that's completely accurate, but maybe some people are

> bothered by this and others just get used to it.

>

> My oldest son had a milk allergy when he was young--terrible sleep

> problems, asthma/wheezing (all gone now). We kept him off dairy for

> years, but he can have it now. It's minimal though.

>

> Winnie

> Re: Desperate! Goldseal for ear infections

> Vaccinations

>

> > I didn't go into it in detail b/c it's OT, but since it seems

> > important: There is such a thing as a true milk allergy where

> > the body

> > gets all inflamed with Histamines. BUT that is not very common.

> > Usually what we call an allergy is our body not able to make the

> >

> > enzyme that digests the milk protein, casein. It does damage the

> >

> > intestines causing leaky gut and ends up with all kinds of

> > health

> > issues from the body attacking the proteins floating around the

> > body

> > where they don't belong. Sometimes this is neurological issues

> > such as

> > behaviour and sometimes its ear infections from mucus constantly

> > being

> > formed. It's an in depth subject but avoiding the casein

> > altogether

> > and giving enzymes such as Trienza when there has been an

> > " accidental

> > ingestion " , the body heals over time and then you just need to

> > avoid

> > the dairy ongoing to stay healthy. I have never heard of the

> > body

> > becoming able to start making those enzymes it lacks but would

> > be all

> > ears if someone has actual evidence that it has happened with a

> > certain protocol (and not just in theory :-). In peace, Arlynn

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

My feeling is if your body rejects it, why force it? Must not be good for you.

Winnie

Re: Desperate! Goldseal for ear infections

> > Vaccinations

> >

> > > I didn't go into it in detail b/c it's OT, but since it seems

> > > important: There is such a thing as a true milk allergy where

> > > the body

> > > gets all inflamed with Histamines. BUT that is not very common.

> > > Usually what we call an allergy is our body not able to make the

> > >

> > > enzyme that digests the milk protein, casein. It does damage the

> > >

> > > intestines causing leaky gut and ends up with all kinds of

> > > health

> > > issues from the body attacking the proteins floating around the

> > > body

> > > where they don't belong. Sometimes this is neurological issues

> > > such as

> > > behaviour and sometimes its ear infections from mucus constantly

> > > being

> > > formed. It's an in depth subject but avoiding the casein

> > > altogether

> > > and giving enzymes such as Trienza when there has been an

> > > " accidental

> > > ingestion " , the body heals over time and then you just need to

> > > avoid

> > > the dairy ongoing to stay healthy. I have never heard of the

> > > body

> > > becoming able to start making those enzymes it lacks but would

> > > be all

> > > ears if someone has actual evidence that it has happened

> with a

> > > certain protocol (and not just in theory :-). In peace, Arlynn

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Homeopathy is NOTHING like traditional medicine. In a chronic

condition you don't look at one symptom, say it is an allergy (or the

flu or whatever), then find one remedy that is the cure for every

person with that same condition. For instance, recently my whole

family came down with a nasty upper respiratory " bug " . We all had the

same major symptoms (very painful but short-lived sore throat, thick

mucus, nasal congestion, chest congestion, hacking cough, absence of

fever), but when reportizing to narrow down remedies for us, there

were several subtle things going on in each person that were

different; things you might never notice if you aren't really paying

attention (Just two examples: one child was very fussy and had to be

held constantly, the other didn't want to be touched; my DH felt

relief with warm drinks while I was relieved with warm baths and

eating ice), and that made us each need a different remedy for what

would be viewed by the allopathic community as the same illness. The

treatments worked very well, and we are all well on the way to

recovery, but had I given us all the same remedy blindly, it would not

have worked so well.

So what is saying is that there is probably some underlying

disturbance that is causing the body to not produce these enzymes (or

whatever your body is/isn't doing to cause the symptom).... the TRUE

cause will never be known (and a homeopath isn't going to spend time

trying to find an exact " cause " ) but if you treat homeopathically by

looking at a patient's whole constitution - not just one or two

symptoms but the WHOLE PICTURE of the person (disposition, thoughts,

sleep patterns, other symptoms you may not correlate to this

condition, age, sex, the list goes on and on), you can help the body

rid itself of the disturbance, which gets rid of the symptoms

(allergies, etc.) by addressing the underlying condition. The

treatment for your daughter with a " milk allergy " will most likely be

different than treatment for my son with seemingly the same " milk

allergy " . This may not be accomplished in one treatment, or even with

one remedy. It could take several months, a year, or more of

continual treatment by a good homeopath to get through the layers to

the root problem, but it can be addressed and eliminated if you stick

to it.

I am going to seek homeopathic care for my asthma and allergies now

that I understand homeopathy on a much deeper level. I'm convinced

that once the underlying disturbance is dealt with homeopathically, my

asthma and allergies will go away.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Arlynn Liebster <abfab@...> wrote:

> I didn't go into it in detail b/c it's OT, but since it seems

> important: There is such a thing as a true milk allergy where the body

> gets all inflamed with Histamines. BUT that is not very common.

> Usually what we call an allergy is our body not able to make the

> enzyme that digests the milk protein, casein.

[Guest guest]

Except it's not a disease to be allergic, or whatever you want to call it, to

milk. We're not meant to consume other animals' milk so it makes sense that a

person might react to it. I don't think homeopathy can change that. I think it

can strengthen your immune system to be able to tolerate it better.

I took my oldest to an environmental doc years ago. I didn't like the treatment

because it meant giving food drops 1/2 hour before every meal--very tedious, and

still a bandaid approach. But what I learned from him was that it was my child

who was allergic. It wasn't the foods' fault, or whatever allergen, EXCEPT that

milk is different. It's a special case.

Winnie

Re: Re: Desperate! Goldseal for ear infections

Vaccinations

> Homeopathy is NOTHING like traditional medicine. In a chronic

> condition you don't look at one symptom, say it is an allergy

> (or the

> flu or whatever), then find one remedy that is the cure for every

> person with that same condition. For instance, recently my whole

> family came down with a nasty upper respiratory " bug " . We all

> had the

> same major symptoms (very painful but short-lived sore throat, thick

> mucus, nasal congestion, chest congestion, hacking cough,

> absence of

> fever), but when reportizing to narrow down remedies for us, there

> were several subtle things going on in each person that were

> different; things you might never notice if you aren't really paying

> attention (Just two examples: one child was very fussy and had

> to be

> held constantly, the other didn't want to be touched; my DH felt

> relief with warm drinks while I was relieved with warm baths and

> eating ice), and that made us each need a different remedy for what

> would be viewed by the allopathic community as the same illness.

> The

> treatments worked very well, and we are all well on the way to

> recovery, but had I given us all the same remedy blindly, it

> would not

> have worked so well.

>

> So what is saying is that there is probably some underlying

> disturbance that is causing the body to not produce these

> enzymes (or

> whatever your body is/isn't doing to cause the symptom).... the TRUE

> cause will never be known (and a homeopath isn't going to spend time

> trying to find an exact " cause " ) but if you treat

> homeopathically by

> looking at a patient's whole constitution - not just one or two

> symptoms but the WHOLE PICTURE of the person (disposition, thoughts,

> sleep patterns, other symptoms you may not correlate to this

> condition, age, sex, the list goes on and on), you can help the body

> rid itself of the disturbance, which gets rid of the symptoms

> (allergies, etc.) by addressing the underlying condition. The

> treatment for your daughter with a " milk allergy " will most

> likely be

> different than treatment for my son with seemingly the same " milk

> allergy " . This may not be accomplished in one treatment, or

> even with

> one remedy. It could take several months, a year, or more of

> continual treatment by a good homeopath to get through the

> layers to

> the root problem, but it can be addressed and eliminated if you stick

> to it.

>

> I am going to seek homeopathic care for my asthma and allergies now

> that I understand homeopathy on a much deeper level. I'm convinced

> that once the underlying disturbance is dealt with

> homeopathically, my

> asthma and allergies will go away.

>

>

>

>

>

> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Arlynn Liebster

> wrote:

> > I didn't go into it in detail b/c it's OT, but since it seems

> > important: There is such a thing as a true milk allergy where

> the body

> > gets all inflamed with Histamines. BUT that is not very common.

> > Usually what we call an allergy is our body not able to make the

> > enzyme that digests the milk protein, casein.

>

[Guest guest]

I totally agree with you, milk is not a perfect human food, by any

means. I was just attempting to describe, from a homeopathic

standpoint, why would suggest treating the " allergy " that

way. I am not dairy intolerant, so I don't refrain from it as I LOVE

cheese and real whipped cream - except that when nursing a newborn, I

do give up all dairy. I DO keep my small children off dairy. Only

recently have I started letting my almost-three-year-old drink goat

milk and, once in awhile, cow milk at school if he really wants it --

and he now loves cheese (because he sees me eat it). It's just like

sugar or anything else... if you don't give it to them when they are

young, they don't develop the taste for it and don't really miss it.

My son doesn't particularly like drinking milk, and he will only take

one bite of something with sugar in it, then say " done mama! "

If I did suddenly find myself intolerant to dairy, I would seek

homeopathic remedy before giving it up for more than just the

short-term because it's one of the few things I still allow myself to

enjoy. I don't drink alcohol, don't eat sugar, don't consume

caffeine, don't consume any fast food. I don't even have any of that

stuff in the house, so my two " vices " are cheese and chiropractic! I

think I could live on cheese and chiropractic alone!

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM, <wharrison@...> wrote:

> Except it's not a disease to be allergic, or whatever you want to call it,

> to milk. We're not meant to consume other animals' milk so it makes sense

> that a person might react to it. I don't think homeopathy can change that. I

> think it can strengthen your immune system to be able to tolerate it better.

>

> I took my oldest to an environmental doc years ago. I didn't like the

> treatment because it meant giving food drops 1/2 hour before every

> meal--very tedious, and still a bandaid approach. But what I learned from

> him was that it was my child who was allergic. It wasn't the foods' fault,

> or whatever allergen, EXCEPT that milk is different. It's a special case.

>

> Winnie

[Guest guest]

Is the chiro spicy or sweet? LOL

On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Roberg wrote:

> I totally agree with you, milk is not a perfect human food, by any

> means. I was just attempting to describe, from a homeopathic

> standpoint, why would suggest treating the " allergy " that

> way. I am not dairy intolerant, so I don't refrain from it as I LOVE

> cheese and real whipped cream - except that when nursing a newborn, I

> do give up all dairy. I DO keep my small children off dairy. Only

> recently have I started letting my almost-three-year-old drink goat

> milk and, once in awhile, cow milk at school if he really wants it --

> and he now loves cheese (because he sees me eat it). It's just like

> sugar or anything else... if you don't give it to them when they are

> young, they don't develop the taste for it and don't really miss it.

> My son doesn't particularly like drinking milk, and he will only take

> one bite of something with sugar in it, then say " done mama! "

>

> If I did suddenly find myself intolerant to dairy, I would seek

> homeopathic remedy before giving it up for more than just the

> short-term because it's one of the few things I still allow myself to

> enjoy. I don't drink alcohol, don't eat sugar, don't consume

> caffeine, don't consume any fast food. I don't even have any of that

> stuff in the house, so my two " vices " are cheese and chiropractic! I

> think I could live on cheese and chiropractic alone!

>

>

>

> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM, <wharrison@...> wrote:

> > Except it's not a disease to be allergic, or whatever you want to

> call it,

> > to milk. We're not meant to consume other animals' milk so it

> makes sense

> > that a person might react to it. I don't think homeopathy can

> change that. I

> > think it can strengthen your immune system to be able to tolerate

> it better.

> >

> > I took my oldest to an environmental doc years ago. I didn't like

> the

> > treatment because it meant giving food drops 1/2 hour before every

> > meal--very tedious, and still a bandaid approach. But what I

> learned from

> > him was that it was my child who was allergic. It wasn't the

> foods' fault,

> > or whatever allergen, EXCEPT that milk is different. It's a

> special case.

> >

> > Winnie

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're forgetting ice cream!

It's a weird situation with milk because you would think no one could tolerate

it if we don't have the enzymes. And why is it cow's milk rather than goat's

milk that people get allergic to?

Winnie

Re: Re: Desperate! Goldseal for ear infections

Vaccinations

> I totally agree with you, milk is not a perfect human food, by any

> means. I was just attempting to describe, from a homeopathic

> standpoint, why would suggest treating the " allergy " that

> way. I am not dairy intolerant, so I don't refrain from it as I LOVE

> cheese and real whipped cream - except that when nursing a

> newborn, I

> do give up all dairy. I DO keep my small children off dairy. Only

> recently have I started letting my almost-three-year-old drink goat

> milk and, once in awhile, cow milk at school if he really wants

> it --

> and he now loves cheese (because he sees me eat it). It's just like

> sugar or anything else... if you don't give it to them when they are

> young, they don't develop the taste for it and don't really miss it.

> My son doesn't particularly like drinking milk, and he will only take

> one bite of something with sugar in it, then say " done mama! "

>

> If I did suddenly find myself intolerant to dairy, I would seek

> homeopathic remedy before giving it up for more than just the

> short-term because it's one of the few things I still allow

> myself to

> enjoy. I don't drink alcohol, don't eat sugar, don't consume

> caffeine, don't consume any fast food. I don't even have any of that

> stuff in the house, so my two " vices " are cheese and

> chiropractic! I

> think I could live on cheese and chiropractic alone!

>

>

>

>

>

> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM, wrote:

> > Except it's not a disease to be allergic, or whatever you want

> to call it,

> > to milk. We're not meant to consume other animals' milk so it

> makes sense

> > that a person might react to it. I don't think homeopathy can

> change that. I

> > think it can strengthen your immune system to be able to

> tolerate it better.

> >

> > I took my oldest to an environmental doc years ago. I didn't

> like the

> > treatment because it meant giving food drops 1/2 hour before every

> > meal--very tedious, and still a bandaid approach. But what I

> learned from

> > him was that it was my child who was allergic. It wasn't the

> foods' fault,

> > or whatever allergen, EXCEPT that milk is different. It's a

> special case.

> >

> > Winnie

>

[Guest guest]

When I thought my daughter was allergic to milk I researched.(she had

reflux) I remember them saying it is the lack of the enzyme Lactase

to digest the lactose in milk that might be causing the reflux.

...

I think, I read a long time ago ,if you are allergic to cow's milk

you might be allergic to goat, too.

I read, also, that the protein molecules are smaller in goat's milk.

hmmm I should do some research on that....if I can find the time.

On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:57 PM, wharrison@... wrote:

> You're forgetting ice cream!

>

> It's a weird situation with milk because you would think no one

> could tolerate it if we don't have the enzymes. And why is it cow's

> milk rather than goat's milk that people get allergic to?

>

> Winnie

>

> Re: Re: Desperate! Goldseal for ear infections

> Vaccinations

>

> > I totally agree with you, milk is not a perfect human food, by any

> > means. I was just attempting to describe, from a homeopathic

> > standpoint, why would suggest treating the " allergy " that

> > way. I am not dairy intolerant, so I don't refrain from it as I LOVE

> > cheese and real whipped cream - except that when nursing a

> > newborn, I

> > do give up all dairy. I DO keep my small children off dairy. Only

> > recently have I started letting my almost-three-year-old drink goat

> > milk and, once in awhile, cow milk at school if he really wants

> > it --

> > and he now loves cheese (because he sees me eat it). It's just like

> > sugar or anything else... if you don't give it to them when they are

> > young, they don't develop the taste for it and don't really miss it.

> > My son doesn't particularly like drinking milk, and he will only

> take

> > one bite of something with sugar in it, then say " done mama! "

> >

> > If I did suddenly find myself intolerant to dairy, I would seek

> > homeopathic remedy before giving it up for more than just the

> > short-term because it's one of the few things I still allow

> > myself to

> > enjoy. I don't drink alcohol, don't eat sugar, don't consume

> > caffeine, don't consume any fast food. I don't even have any of that

> > stuff in the house, so my two " vices " are cheese and

> > chiropractic! I

> > think I could live on cheese and chiropractic alone!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM, wrote:

> > > Except it's not a disease to be allergic, or whatever you want

> > to call it,

> > > to milk. We're not meant to consume other animals' milk so it

> > makes sense

> > > that a person might react to it. I don't think homeopathy can

> > change that. I

> > > think it can strengthen your immune system to be able to

> > tolerate it better.

> > >

> > > I took my oldest to an environmental doc years ago. I didn't

> > like the

> > > treatment because it meant giving food drops 1/2 hour before every

> > > meal--very tedious, and still a bandaid approach. But what I

> > learned from

> > > him was that it was my child who was allergic. It wasn't the

> > foods' fault,

> > > or whatever allergen, EXCEPT that milk is different. It's a

> > special case.

> > >

> > > Winnie

> >

>

>