Re: TKO: Are 100% Organic Claims Legit?

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Kim Yes this site is moderated by Tim, perhaps not online for the holiday? Agree

Bobby was way off base with his post, and comments!

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

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Hi healinghope, this is good to know. I prefer sites that are moderated. Also,

I'm glad other people noticed the problem with bobby's post. I got a mean post

from Rush when I first got here, I hope the moderator spots it. Thanks. Kim

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

make it on your own.

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the Orange cleaning products reported here. I will get back if I can find out

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Ok...here we go again!!!!! Please stop this M!Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 28, 2010, at 12:44 AM, kimstat90 <no_reply > wrote:

Hi healinghope, this is good to know. I prefer sites that are moderated. Also, I'm glad other people noticed the problem with bobby's post. I got a mean post from Rush when I first got here, I hope the moderator spots it. Thanks. Kim

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Hi Rush

How are you ? , Are you going to church tomorrow, I pray you do , it will be

wonderful . Last week was about 'Eye has not seen nor ear heard nor heart

percived what God has in store for those that Love Him' ........ Praise God.

,

Bill.

On Sun Nov 28th, 2010 12:53 AM EST Rush wrote:

>I think the identities are Marie. I have had others email me with the same

conclusion! How sad is that. It's not accomplishing one thing here!!!

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>On Nov 27, 2010, at 9:55 PM, " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote:

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>Kim Yes this site is moderated by Tim, perhaps not online for the holiday?

Agree Bobby was way off base with his post, and comments!

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

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Rush, you're answer to my post doesn't make sense to me. What do you mean by

" here we go again? " Who is M, and what is it you want to stop? Kim

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

make it on your own.

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If your intent here is to get well or help others I hope that is accomplished! Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 28, 2010, at 1:23 AM, kimstat90 <no_reply > wrote:

Rush, you're answer to my post doesn't make sense to me. What do you mean by "here we go again?" Who is M, and what is it you want to stop? Kim

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Apology accepted.

Now on to your other point: I fail to see how analyzing product ingredients

constitutes " splitting hairs " especially given how many folks seem to suffer

from extreme sensitivities. I am not one of them but can certainly empathize.

There is nothing " silly " about getting sick off some chemical or other

ingredient you might otherwise avoided with honest, unfettered feedback. This is

as much about weeding out the crap that doesn't work as anything else. In as

much as product ingredients contribute (or not) to " getting well " I see this

sort of discussion as not only healthy but critical to the ultimate goal of Life

Without Mites.

But then, that's just my opinion.

Harrington

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

make it on your own.

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the Orange cleaning products reported here. I will get back if I can find out

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Rush How dare you accuse me of creating identities? That is out there! I have

had one intent with this group helping others through this horrific and terrible

infestation, infection.

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

make it on your own.

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the Orange cleaning products reported here. I will get back if I can find out

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Bobby There are other ways of telling someone how you feel without name calling,

and insulting people with handicaps. Now I am being called the great identity

creator. Wow!

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

make it on your own.

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all the Orange cleaning products reported here. I will get back if I can find

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Rush Do you really think we are the only ones that found this group in need? I

am not childish like or in need of playing such games like " creating

identities " . I know being sick with this, I WOULD NEVER PLAY SUCH A GAME!

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

make it on your own.

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all the Orange cleaning products reported here. I will get back if I can find

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Of course You never would...I don't really think anyone thinks that..From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 5:52:48 AMSubject: Re: TKO: Are 100% Organic Claims Legit?

Rush Do you really think we are the only ones that found this group in need? I am not childish like or in need of playing such games like "creating identities". I know being sick with this, I WOULD NEVER PLAY SUCH A GAME!

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Can We all just get along even if We don't agree...this group goes through these kind of arguments from time to time,,,,suggestion would be ignore a post if You don't like it and maybe things Will get back to being more helpful...Marie,Bobby,Rush...You are all old time members with very useful info...I don't want to see anyone bounced esp not you guys...it wouldn't be the same...maybe consider it just a pain in the behind for a bit...I've made the same mistake of responding to things that got my dander...and usually I feel it's been counterproductive...except a few cases where the abuse level was hurting others...don't forget for some this disease affects Your brain...It was the case for me for awhile who's to say really...my suggestion is to ignore this latest fight and keep on

being positive yes it is a bit pollyanna but people are really stirred up this time of year...holidays are not fun when You are sick...anyway I hope it gets better RoseFrom: rose <auberginedream777@...>bird mites Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 7:24:08 AMSubject: Re: Re: TKO: Are 100% Organic Claims Legit?

Of course You never would...I don't really think anyone thinks that..From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 5:52:48 AMSubject: Re: TKO: Are 100% Organic Claims Legit?

Rush Do you really think we are the only ones that found this group in need? I am not childish like or in need of playing such games like "creating identities". I know being sick with this, I WOULD NEVER PLAY SUCH A GAME!

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Hi Bobby

You going to Church today ,

I am late but still going , it will be great

I'll be praying for you & all the other posters, this big thing is the worst .

Let's start up the prayer group again ...ok ?

God Bless you Bobby ,

Bill

On Sun Nov 28th, 2010 8:19 AM EST bobbyboyd99 wrote:

>Marie, here are a few on base comments. You really have become quite the pot

stirrer in this room with this " product " group. My sybil reference was to their

constant changing of views. How many hundred of posts did we have to endure, and

still endure, about " I would never use a product that doesn't post all the

ingredients " or " I would never buy from a company that doesn't post all the

ingredients " yet they post about green terpene all the time, which exactly does

this. You have not felt them constantly pick apart a useful product you use

because they like you. They like you because you are usually right in there

picking on us with them. You have constantly dished on our Anu use, Willard

Water, ESP Botanicals, Orange plus etc, products which you have never used. You

go to extremes in your posts against things that have helped us. If it's not

your protocol, you dish on it. These people who are behind these posts are NOT

mite sufferers or even care

about our healing. If they were, they would contribute in a meaningful way.

Remember you did not want to believe Willow was behind all the mean Laz postings

because you had read her " profile " . If you like all this repetative dissing crap

they post, invite them to join your Healing Hope room and diss away. This room

deserves better. Bobby

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

make it on your own.

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Marie is not the one playing games... this was going on at Morgellons Sanctum way before... alot of the same game playing. I don't know who these individuals are or if they are individuals or one person, but they are accumulating lots of negative Karma. None of us ever get away with just trying to hurt another person, it always comes back to us. Anyway, my approach has been to ignore posts you don't agree with or don't care to comment on. Marie is not the one doing this. She has spent SO much time trying to help. Why would she do something like this? No reason at all. There was someone at Morgellons Sanctum doing the same thing, so I believe it was probably someone outside of the mite or Morgellons community, just creating havoc for the hell of it. Perhaps even government related. Since I believe that these birdmites and Morgellons are bioweapons it would make sense that people would go on sites to divide and conquer those of us who have an inkling of what is going on.

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You are so right . That is the room that is was going on in. Some mean folk

were in there. So sad they have come here when it shut down. Lynn quit the room

yesterday because of their constant picking on her. It was too hard for her to

ignore them, she is so sweet and sensitive. Maybe time to start a room with more

protected membership that doesn't allow repetative postings...say your piece

once and get on with it.

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complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

make it on your own.

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sorry to hear about Lynn I adore Her makes me very sad maybe We should get another place where We are protected more if that's possible anybody Have any suggestions maybe too early for that...From: bobbyboyd99 <bobbyboyd99@...>bird mites Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 11:51:06 AMSubject: Re: TKO: Are 100% Organic Claims Legit?

You are so right . That is the room that is was going on in. Some mean folk were in there. So sad they have come here when it shut down. Lynn quit the room yesterday because of their constant picking on her. It was too hard for her to ignore them, she is so sweet and sensitive. Maybe time to start a room with more protected membership that doesn't allow repetative postings...say your piece once and get on with it.

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Lynn can't quit.....I honestly think I would not be here if it weren't for her

constant replies to my cries for help. What can we do to make this better

around here? We are all suffering so much - we can't inflict suffering upon

each other - the mites do a fine job all by themselves.

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love lynn very muchFrom: southernbuggirl <jpingolt@...>bird mites Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 2:43:57 PMSubject: Re: TKO: Are 100% Organic Claims Legit?

Lynn can't quit.....I honestly think I would not be here if it weren't for her constant replies to my cries for help. What can we do to make this better around here? We are all suffering so much - we can't inflict suffering upon each other - the mites do a fine job all by themselves.

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Wow, you make fun of people with disabilities and call people awful names then

you have the nerve to call Marie a pot stirrer? She didn't call anyone a

horrible name like you did. Maybe you think it's ok for Rush to accuse her of

making identities, I don't see you coming down on Rush at all for being mean and

turning this place into a virtual war zone with it's i phone. Yea, I've been

watching this forum for quite some time but only decided to join when I saw a

good talk on Vikane. I am going through as many of the posts here as possible

and Marie, healinghope, is the most knowledgeable, most helpful person here from

what I can see. Anyone who insults a good person like this has something else

going on. Whatever it is I can't just stand by and watch good people get

attacked like this. I have seen posts where people dissed healinghopes protocols

and she never lost it or started calling people awful names.

When I first got here Rush was incredibly rude to me and you didn't blink an

eye. But you come down on people hard just for talking about products. There's

something wrong with this picture! It's ok to call other members horrible names

and be hostile but somehow talking about an inaminate object is off limits? So

what if people talk about products? You and Rush don't have any right to try and

control the conversations just because not everyone thinks exactly the same as

you. Is this the Borg or something? It's not healthy to identify yourself with a

product to the point of getting hysterical with others who might not have the

same opinion on it you do. What I see happening is you and some of your friends

are ok if people discuss products as long as they agree with you. If they don't

agree with you then you attack, and attack, and attack. Then if the other person

responds to your attacks you accuse them of harping on the subject or being

" hateful " or " unhelpful. " Give me a break. Why don't you just live and let live?

In the real world not everyone is going to agree with you so stop trying to

control how other people post. Maybe you could start your own group where

everyone thinks exactly the same as you, and likes exactly the same products and

same protocols. It sounds like a cult or Borg colony to me but it's starting to

sound like that's exactly the kind of place you want.

Now you're trying capitalize on the fact Lynn hasn't been here since yesterday

or whatever. Well you know what? I haven't seen anyone attack Lynn or call her

insulting names like sybil, or accuse of her making identities! Personally I

never got any benefit from her posts but I wouldn't stoop to calling her names

or making crazy accusations just because I don't' care for her posts. She is

free to post whether I like her stuff or not. You know what? I haven't seen Jen

here since you so rudely attacked her but that doesn't seem to concern you.

Maybe it's just me but I think you owe Marie, Jen, and others you rudely

attacked and put into the " product " category a serious apology. Kim

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> > > > > > > > I am going to research this. I am not sure if I trust that

complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins

backs this product.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a

generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe.

Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically

make it on your own.

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all the Orange cleaning products reported here. I will get back if I can find

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I'm sending my love to Lynn! Please do not quit on us! Love,

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Lynn can't quit.....I honestly think I would not be here if it weren't for her constant replies to my cries for help. What can we do to make this better around here? We are all suffering so much - we can't inflict suffering upon each other - the mites do a fine job all by themselves. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Jen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am going to research this. I am not sure if I trust that > >complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins > >backs this product. > >http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a > >generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe. > >Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically > >make it on your own. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think most of the products touted here are good. Exspecially > >all the Orange cleaning products reported here. I will get back if I can find > >out anything more. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >>

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Bobby,

They are in other forums as well... none of us escapes Karma, including myself, so we all reap what we sow. The Dalai Lama talks about compassion and kindness and I'm trying to live by that principal, but wow, it is difficult sometimes.

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You are so right . That is the room that is was going on in. Some mean folk were in there. So sad they have come here when it shut down. Lynn quit the room yesterday because of their constant picking on her. It was too hard for her to ignore them, she is so sweet and sensitive. Maybe time to start a room with more protected membership that doesn't allow repetative postings...say your piece once and get on with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Jen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am going to research this. I am not sure if I trust that complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins backs this product. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe. Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically make it on your own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think most of the products touted here are good. Exspecially all the Orange cleaning products reported here. I will get back if I can find out anything more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>

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Hi there Rose, you asked about another place that's more " protected.' Anyone can

start a group on just like this one, then you can probably make it a

closed group where no one outside your little group of friends can join. Then

you don't have to worry about outsiders. If I hear about something else I will

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Hi there , I agree we reap what we sow. Would you agree that name-calling

brings on bad Karma? Also the habit of pigeon holing people into categories

seems very negative to me. I kind of like the Dali Lama but I dont' really bow

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Dear Kim,name calling is bad karma...We never know how much We are hurting someone..tolerance and peace bring good karma...peace RoseFrom: kimstat90 <no_reply >bird mites Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 10:04:36 PMSubject: Re: TKO: Are 100% Organic Claims

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Hi there , I agree we reap what we sow. Would you agree that name-calling brings on bad Karma? Also the habit of pigeon holing people into categories seems very negative to me. I kind of like the Dali Lama but I dont' really bow down to him or anything. He's just a man. Kim

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Yes Kim. Name calling does bring bad Karma. Pigeon holing or generalizing is not good either and can be negative, although sometimes making judgments to try to understand what is going on does not appear to be negative to me. We also have to shield ourselves from what appears to be negative from others. I won't spend time with negative people for example. I've had plenty of that in my life and life is too short for that type of drama.

Dali Lama is JUST a man as you said. I don't bow down to him, but respect him because in his training--he learned how to take the high road. But remember, he had to escape to Nepal and India to keep from being murdered. He isn't just about the plight of the Tibetan people with the squashing of the Chinese government, he thinks in terms of humanity. That's what I like about him. No, you're correct, I don't bow down to him, or even shake his hand--he is a simple monk--and male monks do not shake hands with females! I went to shake the hand of a monk and found out they back off!

Hugs to you,

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Hi there , I agree we reap what we sow. Would you agree that name-calling brings on bad Karma? Also the habit of pigeon holing people into categories seems very negative to me. I kind of like the Dali Lama but I dont' really bow down to him or anything. He's just a man. Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Jen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am going to research this. I am not sure if I trust that complaint. Too soon for a solid opinion now from me. I found Swanson Vitamins backs this product. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/TK001/ItemDetail?SourceCode=INTL402 Its a generized statement of all products they sale. They must think its safe. Personnally its very hard to be completely organic unless you can physically make it on your own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think most of the products touted here are good. Exspecially all the Orange cleaning products reported here. I will get back if I can find out anything more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>