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At 02:24 PM 9/10/2008, you wrote:

>HI All,

>

>just curious, they have listed in the hospital pre-made " birth plan "

>whether or not i would receive the Tdap vaccine.

>

>what is this exactly?? i suppose it's so i can pass it onto the baby

>through my breastmilk, but i just want to make sure what it is.

They want to sell vaccines to the HUGE adult market

They will tell you it is so you don't get pertussis and give it to your baby.

(doesn't matter that there is tetanus and diphtheria in there also -

diphtheria, a rare disease of poverty basically now; you vaccinated

against tetanus will not protect your baby). All can harm you

See my webpages on danger of tetanus vax

http://www.wellwithin1.com/tetanus.htm

this is just another way to sell their product and keep you in fear

>i really don't want to get it, unless i have too....is this something

>new? i don't recall getting a vaccine with my last birth (7 yrs ago)

you don't have to get anything

Put it in your birth plan and refuse any injections.

Sheri

>btw, i also saw an ad for this is the american baby magazine, urging

>mothers to get this vaccine...does it have something to do with

>pertussis???

>

>i'm 37 weeks, could pop any time....so any feedback would be helpful.

>

>thanks!!

>~

>

>

>

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>

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Hi, . You do not have to get any vaccine of any kind.

It is something fairly new that they are pushing this on new moms. It is for

pertussis, but also for tetanus and diphteria. The push is for pertussis but as

is typical, they lump other vaccines with it for no reason other than because

they can.

The reason is not to pass it along through breastmilk but to prevent you from

getting pertussis and giving it to your baby. However, that is assuming that the

vaccine works. Don't bet on it. It won't.

If you don't want it (and neither would I), tell them AND put it in writing. I

would never use a hospital pre-made birth plan--never heard of such a thing. By

definition it would be your plan because you are the one giving birth, so make

your own.

You are the customer. You make the rules. Don't let them force you into

anything.

Winnie

VACCINE FOR MOTHER AFTER BIRTH???

Vaccinations

> HI All,

>

> just curious, they have listed in the hospital pre-made " birth

> plan "

> whether or not i would receive the Tdap vaccine.

>

> what is this exactly?? i suppose it's so i can pass it onto the

> baby

> through my breastmilk, but i just want to make sure what it is.

>

> i really don't want to get it, unless i have too....is this

> something

> new? i don't recall getting a vaccine with my last birth (7 yrs ago)

>

> btw, i also saw an ad for this is the american baby magazine,

> urging

> mothers to get this vaccine...does it have something to do with

> pertussis???

>

> i'm 37 weeks, could pop any time....so any feedback would be

> helpful.

>

> thanks!!

> ~

>

>

>

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When I went to to deliver my second child I was told by the dr that they would

be giving me that shot after the baby was born.  I stressed about it for months

wondering how I was going to get out of it.  But when I went in to deliver the

nurse handed me some paperwork to fill out and there was a space on the sheet

and I wrote down that I did not want any shot at all and told the nurse what I

had put.  I was never asked about it and the dr never bothered me about it

either. 

 

So put it in writing and tell them hopefully they will not give you a hard

time. 

Good Luck!

Jill

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Subject: Re: VACCINE FOR MOTHER AFTER BIRTH???

Vaccinations

Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 2:16 PM

Hi, . You do not have to get any vaccine of any kind.

It is something fairly new that they are pushing this on new moms. It is for

pertussis, but also for tetanus and diphteria. The push is for pertussis but as

is typical, they lump other vaccines with it for no reason other than because

they can.

The reason is not to pass it along through breastmilk but to prevent you from

getting pertussis and giving it to your baby. However, that is assuming that the

vaccine works. Don't bet on it. It won't.

If you don't want it (and neither would I), tell them AND put it in writing.. I

would never use a hospital pre-made birth plan--never heard of such a thing. By

definition it would be your plan because you are the one giving birth, so make

your own.

You are the customer. You make the rules. Don't let them force you into

anything.

Winnie

VACCINE FOR MOTHER AFTER BIRTH???

Vaccinations

> HI All,

>

> just curious, they have listed in the hospital pre-made " birth

> plan "

> whether or not i would receive the Tdap vaccine.

>

> what is this exactly?? i suppose it's so i can pass it onto the

> baby

> through my breastmilk, but i just want to make sure what it is.

>

> i really don't want to get it, unless i have too....is this

> something

> new? i don't recall getting a vaccine with my last birth (7 yrs ago)

>

> btw, i also saw an ad for this is the american baby magazine,

> urging

> mothers to get this vaccine...does it have something to do with

> pertussis???

>

> i'm 37 weeks, could pop any time....so any feedback would be

> helpful.

>

> thanks!!

> ~

>

>

>

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They didn't offer this to me, thank goodness.

You don't have to do anything.. if not doing it is a 10 to you, then fight

against it

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Nice--they just announced to you that you would get it. Good for you to be aware

enough at the time to refuse it. I wonder how many women are given this

automatically.

Winnie

VACCINE FOR MOTHER AFTER BIRTH???

> Vaccinations

>

> > HI All,

> >

> > just curious, they have listed in the hospital pre-made " birth

> > plan "

> > whether or not i would receive the Tdap vaccine.

> >

> > what is this exactly?? i suppose it's so i can pass it onto

> the

> > baby

> > through my breastmilk, but i just want to make sure what it

> is.

> >

> > i really don't want to get it, unless i have too....is this

> > something

> > new? i don't recall getting a vaccine with my last birth (7

> yrs ago)

> >

> > btw, i also saw an ad for this is the american baby magazine,

> > urging

> > mothers to get this vaccine...does it have something to do

> with

> > pertussis???

> >

> > i'm 37 weeks, could pop any time....so any feedback would be

> > helpful.

> >

> > thanks!!

> > ~

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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sneaky of them!  good thing you know before you're in labor!  I would also

stress to your partner or whoever will be at the birth with you that these are

your wishes and for them to stay VIGILANT that you don't get anything you don't

want!  I would not put anything pass the hospital/pharma co - there is big

profit to be made on this and if they're already advertising in baby mags, they

will pursue every victim possible.

 

mabel

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DO NOT agree to getting any vaccines postpartum, especially if you

are planning to breastfeed. There is no evidence of Tdap being safe

in pregnant or nursing women. There is in fact question of whether

immunization of the mother will interfere with immunity of the infant

(presuming you will be giving your infant the routine schedule of

vaccines). Similarly, if you are rubella non-immune, do not allow

vaccination prior to leaving the hospital.

I am a family practice doc who does obstetrics. My hospital recently

has added the Tdap to routine discharge orders. My nurses know that I

specifically to not wish any of my patients to have this. I am not

allowing Hep B to be given to my newborns either, unless of course

the mom or close contacts have Hepatitis B. Where I practice there is

a very low prevalence of this.

My view is not particularly popular among my peers. However I

recently was told by the OB nurses that my partners have stopped

giving Hep B at birth as well (that was a very pleasant surprise!)

All of God's blessings with your delivery and new baby!!!!!!

Gayl H.

>

> HI All,

>

> just curious, they have listed in the hospital pre-made " birth

plan "

> whether or not i would receive the Tdap vaccine.

>

> what is this exactly?? i suppose it's so i can pass it onto the

baby

> through my breastmilk, but i just want to make sure what it is.

>

> i really don't want to get it, unless i have too....is this

something

> new? i don't recall getting a vaccine with my last birth (7 yrs ago)

>

> btw, i also saw an ad for this is the american baby magazine,

urging

> mothers to get this vaccine...does it have something to do with

> pertussis???

>

> i'm 37 weeks, could pop any time....so any feedback would be

helpful.

>

> thanks!!

> ~

>

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Gayl,

 

THAT is awesome that you and other medical professionals here are in our group -

we need more docs like you!!  Glad to have you here on these posts - I can

imagine the difficulty you have with peers but I am very proud you all that

you are speaking up and helping others to speak up and revealing the truth! 

Thank you!!! 

 

mabel

 

 

 

 

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Gayl,

Bless you for this. It is a small step in a large battle but those

babies are being spared for even the small chance (assuming the ped

will push the vaxes) that you are giving them. It gives me hope

within the medical community to hear of a proactive doc.

Marci

I am not

> allowing Hep B to be given to my newborns either, unless of course

> the mom or close contacts have Hepatitis B. Where I practice there

is

> a very low prevalence of this.

> My view is not particularly popular among my peers. However I

> recently was told by the OB nurses that my partners have stopped

> giving Hep B at birth as well (that was a very pleasant surprise!)

>

> All of God's blessings with your delivery and new baby!!!!!!

>

> Gayl H.

>

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