Obama says no to selective vaccination

[Guest guest]

Well I know who to vote for now.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/09/obama-i-am-not.html?

cid=129668998#comments

or

http://tinyurl.com/5td62a

andrea

[Guest guest]

and what does McCain say?

I encourage you to do what many others of us are doing - writing and

phoning and educating him.

And this is NOT the only issue. If we destroy the planet and

continue to contribute toxins to the environment and kill all our

children once they become 18 and are drafted into the military, it

won't matter that you didn't vaccinate them.

You have to look at everything with your vote.

And the laws about vaccination are at a state level - you need to be

reviewing the position of those in your state government.

Has that been done?

Sheri

At 02:21 AM 9/13/2008, you wrote:

>Well I know who to vote for now.

>

>http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/09/obama-i-am-not.html?

>cid=129668998#comments

>or

>http://tinyurl.com/5td62a

>

>andrea

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 10, 2008

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/13/2008 10:27:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

vidamarino@... writes:

Anyways, if Ron is still running, he is my first choice, as I

agree with him on most issues and believe he is our best chance for

keeping and restoring our liberties.

Thanks, Vida.

If others truly wanted to vote the way Ron leans, it would be either

for Barr or Baldwin. Chuck Baldwin actually holds an almost identical platform

as , but for some more overt religiousness. He's the Constitution Party

nominee. Other than that, the two are identical. Bob Barr isn't identical

policy-wise, but he is the Libertarian candidate. He still seeks to leave the

power with the people rather than the gov't. He definitely believes that

individuals should make more decisions and the fed's less.

Also check out

Campaign For Liberty:

Statement of Principles

Americans inherit from their ancestors a glorious tradition of freedom and

resistance to oppression. Our country has long been admired by the rest of the

world for her great example of liberty and prosperity – a light shining in

the darkness of tyranny.

But many Americans today are frustrated. The political choices they are

offered give them no real choice at all. For all their talk of “change,â€

neither

major political party as presently constituted challenges the status quo in

any serious way. Neither treats the Constitution with anything but contempt.

Neither offers any kind of change in monetary policy. Neither wants to make

the reductions in government that our crushing debt burden demands. Neither

talks about bringing American troops home not just from Iraq but from around

the world. Our country is going bankrupt, and none of these sensible proposals

are even on the table.

This destructive bipartisan consensus has suffocated American political life

for many years. Anyone who tries to ask fundamental questions instead of

cosmetic ones is ridiculed or ignored.

That is why the Campaign for Liberty was established: to highlight the

neglected but common-sense principles we champion and reinsert them into the

American political conversation.

The U.S. Constitution is at the heart of what the Campaign for Liberty

stands for, since the very least we can demand of our government is fidelity to

its own governing document. Claims that our Constitution was meant to be a “

living document†that judges may interpret as they please are fraudulent,

incompatible with republican government, and without foundation in the

constitutional text or the thinking of the Framers. Jefferson spoke of

binding our

rulers down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution, and we are

proud to follow in his distinguished lineage.

With our Founding Fathers, we also believe in a noninterventionist foreign

policy. Inspired by the old Taft wing of the Republican Party, we are

convinced that the American people cannot remain free and prosperous with 700

military bases around the world, troops in 130 countries, and a steady diet

of war propaganda. Our military overstretch is undermining our national

defense and bankrupting our country.

We believe that the free market, reviled by people who do not understand it,

is the most just and humane economic system and the greatest engine of

prosperity the world has ever known.

We believe with Ludwig von Mises, Henry Hazlitt, and F.A. Hayek that central

banking distorts economic decisionmaking and misleads entrepreneurs into

making unsound investments. Hayek won the Nobel Prize for showing how central

banks’ interference with interest rates sets the stage for economic

downturns.

And the central bank’s ability to create money out of thin air transfers

wealth from the most vulnerable to those with political pull, since it is the

latter who receive the new money before the price increases it brings in its

wake have yet occurred. For economic and moral reasons, therefore, we join the

great twentieth-century economists in opposing the Federal Reserve System,

which has reduced the value of the dollar by 95 percent since it began in 1913.

We oppose the dehumanizing assumption that all issues that divide us must be

settled at the federal level and forced on every American community, whether

by activist judges, a power-hungry executive, or a meddling Congress. We

believe in the humane alternative of local self-government, as called for in

our

Constitution.

We oppose the transfer of American sovereignty to supranational

organizations in which the American people possess no elected representatives.

Such

compromises of our country’s independence run counter to the principles of

the

American Revolution, which was fought on behalf of self-government and local

control. Most of these organizations have a terrible track record even on their

own terms: how much poverty have the World Bank and the International

Monetary Fund actually alleviated, for example? The peoples of the world can

interact with each other just fine in the absence of bureaucratic

intermediaries

that undermine their sovereignty.

We believe that freedom is an indivisible whole, and that it includes not

only economic liberty but civil liberties and privacy rights as well, all of

which are historic rights that our civilization has cherished from time

immemorial.

Our stances on other issues can be deduced from these general principles.

Our country is ailing. That is the bad news. The good news is that the

remedy is so simple and attractive: a return to the principles our Founders

taught

us. Respect for the Constitution, the rule of law, individual liberty, sound

money, and a noninterventionist foreign policy constitute the foundation of

the Campaign for Liberty.

Will you join us?

_http://www.campaignforliberty.com/_ (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/)

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/13/2008 7:27:00 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

vidamarino@... writes:

> Does anyone have any good links to info on McCain and Obama so I can

> see what each is really all about? Especially when it comes to issues

> on health, as I think this is the most important subject, not just gas

> prices and taxes.

I think I sent this once before ...

[ http://www.yourcandidatesyourhealth.org/presidential.php ]

Becca

**************

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[Guest guest]

I agree. It would be great to have a president that totally agreed with my views

on vaccines and health care but they cannot spend the inordinate amount of time

required to change the world's view on it and still do their job as president.

Still it would be nice...

Winnie

Re: Obama says " no " to selective vaccination

Vaccinations

> and what does McCain say?

>

> I encourage you to do what many others of us are doing - writing

> and

> phoning and educating him.

>

> And this is NOT the only issue. If we destroy the planet and

> continue to contribute toxins to the environment and kill all

> our

> children once they become 18 and are drafted into the military,

> it

> won't matter that you didn't vaccinate them.

>

> You have to look at everything with your vote.

>

> And the laws about vaccination are at a state level - you need

> to be

> reviewing the position of those in your state government.

> Has that been done?

>

> Sheri

>

> At 02:21 AM 9/13/2008, you wrote:

> >Well I know who to vote for now.

> >

> >http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/09/obama-i-am-not.html?

> >cid=129668998#comments

> >or

> >http://tinyurl.com/5td62a

> >

> >andrea

>

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes

> Sept 10, 2008

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone have any good links to info on McCain and Obama so I can

see what each is really all about? Especially when it comes to issues

on health, as I think this is the most important subject, not just gas

prices and taxes. I really don't know enough about the two right now to

make a good choice. Although I know my parents would kill me if I

voted for McCain

Anyways, if Ron is still running, he is my first choice, as I

agree with him on most issues and believe he is our best chance for

keeping and restoring our liberties.

Thanks, Vida.

[Guest guest]

Question 5

5. What strategies would you use to increase the focus on prevention and

wellness in our health care system?

¡ÄToo many Americans go without high¡¾value preventive services,

such as

cancer screening and immunizations to protect against flu or pneumonia¡ÄI

believe that protecting and promoting health and wellness in this nation is

a shared responsibility among individuals and families, school systems,

employers, the medical and public health workforce, and federal and state

and local governments. Each must do their part, as well as collaborate with

one another, to create the conditions and opportunities that will allow and

encourage Americans to adopt healthy lifestyles.

I believe that protecting and promoting health and wellness in this nation

is a shared responsibility among individuals and families, school systems,

employers, the medical and public health workforce, and federal and state

and local governments. Each must do their part, as well as collaborate with

one another, to create the conditions and opportunities that will allow and

encourage Americans to adopt healthy lifestyles.

Hmm. Sounds like he¡Çs for a socialist system.

Does anyone know if ron paul is still in the running? I want healthcare

freedom!!

Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 15, Jon 13, 11, 9,

7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac, 2/3/08

http://momof6.dotphoto.com <http://momof6.dotphoto.com/> for not

necessarily current pictures

http://nitasspot.blogspot.com

Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough

to make them all yourself.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheri

Re: Obama says " no " to selective vaccination

and what does McCain say?

I encourage you to do what many others of us are doing - writing and

phoning and educating him.

And this is NOT the only issue. If we destroy the planet and

continue to contribute toxins to the environment and kill all our

children once they become 18 and are drafted into the military, it

won't matter that you didn't vaccinate them.

You have to look at everything with your vote.

And the laws about vaccination are at a state level - you need to be

reviewing the position of those in your state government.

Has that been done?

Sheri

At 02:21 AM 9/13/2008, you wrote:

>Well I know who to vote for now.

>

>http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/09/obama-i-am-not.html?

>cid=129668998#comments

>or

>http://tinyurl.com/5td62a

>

>andrea

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses - next classes Sept 10, 2008

[Guest guest]

Sorry- but this is not the only issue and/or reason to vote NOT vote

for Obama- I think with a little more " insight " he will be easy on

vaccines- meaning also make sure the laws will allow/remain for a

parent choice.

I wouldn't vote for McCain even if someone held a %$#* to my head!!!

[Guest guest]

www.barackobama.com

Re: Obama says " no " to selective vaccination

Does anyone have any good links to info on McCain and Obama so I can

see what each is really all about? Especially when it comes to issues

on health, as I think this is the most important subject, not just gas

prices and taxes. I really don't know enough about the two right now to

make a good choice. Although I know my parents would kill me if I

voted for McCain

Anyways, if Ron is still running, he is my first choice, as I

agree with him on most issues and believe he is our best chance for

keeping and restoring our liberties.

Thanks, Vida.

[Guest guest]

Ron is not officially still running, but would accept the

presidency if elected, but you don't have to vote for only the people

on the ballot. I have not decided if I am going with Baldwin, Barr

or writing in Ron .

>

>

> In a message dated 9/13/2008 10:27:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> vidamarino@... writes:

>

> Anyways, if Ron is still running, he is my first choice, as I

> agree with him on most issues and believe he is our best chance

for

> keeping and restoring our liberties.

> Thanks, Vida.

>

>

>

> If others truly wanted to vote the way Ron leans, it would be

either

> for Barr or Baldwin. Chuck Baldwin actually holds an almost

identical platform

> as , but for some more overt religiousness. He's the

Constitution Party

> nominee. Other than that, the two are identical. Bob Barr isn't

identical

> policy-wise, but he is the Libertarian candidate. He still seeks

to leave the

> power with the people rather than the gov't. He definitely

believes that

> individuals should make more decisions and the fed's less.

>

> Also check out

>

>

> Campaign For Liberty:

>

> Statement of Principles

> Americans inherit from their ancestors a glorious tradition of

freedom and

> resistance to oppression. Our country has long been admired by the

rest of the

> world for her great example of liberty and prosperity †" a light

shining in

> the darkness of tyranny.

>

> But many Americans today are frustrated. The political choices

they are

> offered give them no real choice at all. For all their talk of

“change,†neither

> major political party as presently constituted challenges the

status quo in

> any serious way. Neither treats the Constitution with anything but

contempt.

> Neither offers any kind of change in monetary policy. Neither

wants to make

> the reductions in government that our crushing debt burden

demands. Neither

> talks about bringing American troops home not just from Iraq but

from around

> the world. Our country is going bankrupt, and none of these

sensible proposals

> are even on the table.

>

> This destructive bipartisan consensus has suffocated American

political life

> for many years. Anyone who tries to ask fundamental questions

instead of

> cosmetic ones is ridiculed or ignored.

>

> That is why the Campaign for Liberty was established: to highlight

the

> neglected but common-sense principles we champion and reinsert

them into the

> American political conversation.

>

> The U.S. Constitution is at the heart of what the Campaign for

Liberty

> stands for, since the very least we can demand of our government

is fidelity to

> its own governing document. Claims that our Constitution was meant

to be a “

> living document†that judges may interpret as they please are

fraudulent,

> incompatible with republican government, and without foundation in

the

> constitutional text or the thinking of the Framers.

Jefferson spoke of binding our

> rulers down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution, and

we are

> proud to follow in his distinguished lineage.

>

> With our Founding Fathers, we also believe in a noninterventionist

foreign

> policy. Inspired by the old Taft wing of the Republican

Party, we are

> convinced that the American people cannot remain free and

prosperous with 700

> military bases around the world, troops in 130 countries, and a

steady diet

> of war propaganda. Our military overstretch is undermining our

national

> defense and bankrupting our country.

>

> We believe that the free market, reviled by people who do not

understand it,

> is the most just and humane economic system and the greatest

engine of

> prosperity the world has ever known.

>

> We believe with Ludwig von Mises, Henry Hazlitt, and F.A. Hayek

that central

> banking distorts economic decisionmaking and misleads

entrepreneurs into

> making unsound investments. Hayek won the Nobel Prize for showing

how central

> banks’ interference with interest rates sets the stage for

economic downturns.

> And the central bank’s ability to create money out of thin air

transfers

> wealth from the most vulnerable to those with political pull,

since it is the

> latter who receive the new money before the price increases it

brings in its

> wake have yet occurred. For economic and moral reasons, therefore,

we join the

> great twentieth-century economists in opposing the Federal Reserve

System,

> which has reduced the value of the dollar by 95 percent since it

began in 1913.

>

> We oppose the dehumanizing assumption that all issues that divide

us must be

> settled at the federal level and forced on every American

community, whether

> by activist judges, a power-hungry executive, or a meddling

Congress. We

> believe in the humane alternative of local self-government, as

called for in our

> Constitution.

>

> We oppose the transfer of American sovereignty to supranational

> organizations in which the American people possess no elected

representatives. Such

> compromises of our country’s independence run counter to the

principles of the

> American Revolution, which was fought on behalf of self-government

and local

> control. Most of these organizations have a terrible track record

even on their

> own terms: how much poverty have the World Bank and the

International

> Monetary Fund actually alleviated, for example? The peoples of the

world can

> interact with each other just fine in the absence of bureaucratic

intermediaries

> that undermine their sovereignty.

>

> We believe that freedom is an indivisible whole, and that it

includes not

> only economic liberty but civil liberties and privacy rights as

well, all of

> which are historic rights that our civilization has cherished from

time

> immemorial.

>

> Our stances on other issues can be deduced from these general

principles.

>

> Our country is ailing. That is the bad news. The good news is that

the

> remedy is so simple and attractive: a return to the principles our

Founders taught

> us. Respect for the Constitution, the rule of law, individual

liberty, sound

> money, and a noninterventionist foreign policy constitute the

foundation of

> the Campaign for Liberty.

>

> Will you join us?

>

> _http://www.campaignforliberty.com/_

(http://www.campaignforliberty.com/)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new

fashion blog,

> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

NO...unfortunately, he is no longer running.  I know...I'm bumming, too....

From: Venita Garner <nitagarner@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Obama says " no " to selective vaccination

Vaccinations

Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 7:26 PM

Question 5

5. What strategies would you use to increase the focus on prevention and

wellness in our health care system?

…Too many Americans go without highâ€value preventive services, such as

cancer screening and immunizations to protect against flu or pneumonia…I

believe that protecting and promoting health and wellness in this nation is

a shared responsibility among individuals and families, school systems,

employers, the medical and public health workforce, and federal and state

and local governments. Each must do their part, as well as collaborate with

one another, to create the conditions and opportunities that will allow and

encourage Americans to adopt healthy lifestyles.

I believe that protecting and promoting health and wellness in this nation

is a shared responsibility among individuals and families, school systems,

employers, the medical and public health workforce, and federal and state

and local governments. Each must do their part, as well as collaborate with

one another, to create the conditions and opportunities that will allow and

encourage Americans to adopt healthy lifestyles.

Hmm. Sounds like he’s for a socialist system.

Does anyone know if ron paul is still in the running? I want healthcare

freedom!!

Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 15, Jon 13, 11, 9,

7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac, 2/3/08

http://momof6. dotphoto. com <http://momof6. dotphoto. com/> for not

necessarily current pictures

http://nitasspot. blogspot. com

Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough

to make them all yourself.