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My second son used to bite his older brother on the back and got payback when

HIS little brother did the same to him. Second son--delayed speech; the other

speaking in full sentences right off the bat.

Do girls bite, too?

Winnie

attentive mother- Re: Has anyone

> notice this?

> >

> >

> >

> > How funny, I was just sharing today with someone about how

> maybe

> > some

> > kids don't talk because sometimes we are so intune with what

> > they

> > need that we understand them etc.

> >

> > Not saying that others aren't. It's just that I've noticed

> that

> > some

> > kids don't seem the need to talk until later. While other kids

> > are

> > more vocal and even like to hear themselves babble.

> >

> > My children even though they don't talk until later do

> > understand

> > very well. To well I think sometimes LOL>

> >

> > I was shocked when at one 6 month appointment the Ped asked if

> > my

> > child was speaking yet? I thought he was joking. He wasn't.

> Just

> > checking he said because some start talking early.

> >

> > Diane

> >

> > > My twins didn't speak mostly but had excellent receptive

> > language

> > before 24months old. I

> > > had them evaluated at 18months b/c they didn't talk. I was

> > told

> > that ALL of their needs were

> > > eagerly anticipated by an attentive mother (me) and that

> they

> > had

> > absolutely no reason to

> > > speak up. They had everything they needed/wanted/could dream

> > of

> > having prior to having to

> > > scream/cry/beg for attention to get it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Very cute--clearly a man looking to save the earth!

Winnie

attentive mother- Re: Has anyone notice this?

Vaccinations

> baby sign language videos are great for this. It takes so much

> frustration out because at a very young age (before 12 months

> old) they

> can learn such simple hand gestures/signs. It helped me so much

> with my

> 4th child because I had the hardest time understanding his

> words. I

> felt like we were playing charades.

>

> My kids all thought it was fun to watch the baby sign langauge

> videos

> as well so they could talk to him.

>

> He talks pretty good now at 4.5yrs old. Just today he told me I

> was

> wasting gas because I turned on the engine but hadn't pulled out

> yet.

>

> Diane

>

> > My thirteen year old was not verbal and he went through a

> hitting

> buying stage because he couldn't get his point across. I vowed

> that my

> other children would not suffer. I only hope my new son is

> verbal as

> well.

> >

>

>

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Making sounds, but they likely have no understanding about what it is. It's just

babble, and they usually make several similar sounds, a new one every few days,

seems to be the focus. We babble the same sound right back at them, and they

look at you like Yeah, that's what I said! LOL

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From: spanishmiss430 <spanishmiss430@...>

Subject: attentive mother- Re: Has anyone notice this?

Vaccinations

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 10:44 AM

I work for Early Intervention and our testing standards say that kids

should be making consonant/vowel combos like " mama " and " dada " by 6-8

months.

Melinda C. in Mass.

>

> Six months???

>

> attentive mother- Re: Has anyone notice

this?

> Vaccinations

>

> > How funny, I was just sharing today with someone about how maybe

> > some

> > kids don't talk because sometimes we are so intune with what

> > they

> > need that we understand them etc.

> >

> > Not saying that others aren't. It's just that I've noticed that

> > some

> > kids don't seem the need to talk until later. While other kids

> > are

> > more vocal and even like to hear themselves babble.

> >

> > My children even though they don't talk until later do

> > understand

> > very well. To well I think sometimes LOL>

> >

> > I was shocked when at one 6 month appointment the Ped asked if

> > my

> > child was speaking yet? I thought he was joking. He wasn't. Just

> > checking he said because some start talking early.

> >

> > Diane

> >

> > > My twins didn't speak mostly but had excellent receptive

> > language

> > before 24months old. I

> > > had them evaluated at 18months b/c they didn't talk. I was

> > told

> > that ALL of their needs were

> > > eagerly anticipated by an attentive mother (me) and that they

> > had

> > absolutely no reason to

> > > speak up. They had everything they needed/wanted/ could dream

> > of

> > having prior to having to

> > > scream/cry/beg for attention to get it.

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Oh, I was thinking speaking as in phrases.

Winnie

attentive mother- Re: Has anyone

> notice

> this?

> > Vaccinations

> >

> > > How funny, I was just sharing today with someone about how

> maybe

> > > some

> > > kids don't talk because sometimes we are so intune with what

> > > they

> > > need that we understand them etc.

> > >

> > > Not saying that others aren't. It's just that I've noticed

> that

> > > some

> > > kids don't seem the need to talk until later. While other

> kids

> > > are

> > > more vocal and even like to hear themselves babble.

> > >

> > > My children even though they don't talk until later do

> > > understand

> > > very well. To well I think sometimes LOL>

> > >

> > > I was shocked when at one 6 month appointment the Ped asked

> if

> > > my

> > > child was speaking yet? I thought he was joking. He wasn't.

> Just

> > > checking he said because some start talking early.

> > >

> > > Diane

> > >

> > > > My twins didn't speak mostly but had excellent receptive

> > > language

> > > before 24months old. I

> > > > had them evaluated at 18months b/c they didn't talk. I was

> > > told

> > > that ALL of their needs were

> > > > eagerly anticipated by an attentive mother (me) and that

> they

> > > had

> > > absolutely no reason to

> > > > speak up. They had everything they needed/wanted/could

> dream

> > > of

> > > having prior to having to

> > > > scream/cry/beg for attention to get it.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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My second son, , the late speaker used to speak " cat " when he was 2 or 3. He

would meow whatever he had to say and if I answered him in " human, " he would get

mad. If I meowed back, he'd say " Meow " as in, yes, that's it.

Winnie

attentive mother- Re: Has anyone

> notice

> this?

> > Vaccinations

> >

> > > How funny, I was just sharing today with someone about how

> maybe

> > > some

> > > kids don't talk because sometimes we are so intune with what

> > > they

> > > need that we understand them etc.

> > >

> > > Not saying that others aren't. It's just that I've noticed

> that

> > > some

> > > kids don't seem the need to talk until later. While other

> kids

> > > are

> > > more vocal and even like to hear themselves babble.

> > >

> > > My children even though they don't talk until later do

> > > understand

> > > very well. To well I think sometimes LOL>

> > >

> > > I was shocked when at one 6 month appointment the Ped asked

> if

> > > my

> > > child was speaking yet? I thought he was joking. He wasn't.

> Just

> > > checking he said because some start talking early.

> > >

> > > Diane

> > >

> > > > My twins didn't speak mostly but had excellent receptive

> > > language

> > > before 24months old. I

> > > > had them evaluated at 18months b/c they didn't talk. I was

> > > told

> > > that ALL of their needs were

> > > > eagerly anticipated by an attentive mother (me) and that

> they

> > > had

> > > absolutely no reason to

> > > > speak up. They had everything they needed/wanted/ could

> dream

> > > of

> > > having prior to having to

> > > > scream/cry/beg for attention to get it.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Kendall is 13 months and has about 25 words and bites. My son has bruises when

she gets him good before we can stop her. She hits, bites, pinches, etc. You can

see the look of frustration on her face when she wants something and can't

have/get it. For her at least I don't think communication and biting are

related. I think she just gets mad  LOL

 

Marie Quisenberry

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attentive mother- Re: Has anyone

> notice this?

> >

> >

> >

> > How funny, I was just sharing today with someone about how

> maybe

> > some

> > kids don't talk because sometimes we are so intune with what

> > they

> > need that we understand them etc.

> >

> > Not saying that others aren't. It's just that I've noticed

> that

> > some

> > kids don't seem the need to talk until later. While other kids

> > are

> > more vocal and even like to hear themselves babble.

> >

> > My children even though they don't talk until later do

> > understand

> > very well. To well I think sometimes LOL>

> >

> > I was shocked when at one 6 month appointment the Ped asked if

> > my

> > child was speaking yet? I thought he was joking. He wasn't.

> Just

> > checking he said because some start talking early.

> >

> > Diane

> >

> > > My twins didn't speak mostly but had excellent receptive

> > language

> > before 24months old. I

> > > had them evaluated at 18months b/c they didn't talk. I was

> > told

> > that ALL of their needs were

> > > eagerly anticipated by an attentive mother (me) and that

> they

> > had

> > absolutely no reason to

> > > speak up. They had everything they needed/wanted/ could dream

> > of

> > having prior to having to

> > > scream/cry/beg for attention to get it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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It could be as simple as that. Does your son scream and cry when she bites him?

Could be fun for her, making the bigger kid squawk.

Winnie

attentive mother- Re: Has anyone

> > notice this?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > How funny, I was just sharing today with someone about how

> > maybe

> > > some

> > > kids don't talk because sometimes we are so intune with what

> > > they

> > > need that we understand them etc.

> > >

> > > Not saying that others aren't. It's just that I've noticed

> > that

> > > some

> > > kids don't seem the need to talk until later. While other

> kids

> > > are

> > > more vocal and even like to hear themselves babble.

> > >

> > > My children even though they don't talk until later do

> > > understand

> > > very well. To well I think sometimes LOL>

> > >

> > > I was shocked when at one 6 month appointment the Ped asked

> if

> > > my

> > > child was speaking yet? I thought he was joking. He wasn't.

> > Just

> > > checking he said because some start talking early.

> > >

> > > Diane

> > >

> > > > My twins didn't speak mostly but had excellent receptive

> > > language

> > > before 24months old. I

> > > > had them evaluated at 18months b/c they didn't talk. I was

> > > told

> > > that ALL of their needs were

> > > > eagerly anticipated by an attentive mother (me) and that

> > they

> > > had

> > > absolutely no reason to

> > > > speak up. They had everything they needed/wanted/ could

> dream

> > > of

> > > having prior to having to

> > > > scream/cry/beg for attention to get it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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That sounds like a very gifted child. They can be so odd and

imaginative.

Diane

> > My second son, , the late speaker used to speak " cat " when he

was 2 or 3. He would

> meow whatever he had to say and if I answered him in " human, " he

would get mad. If I

> meowed back, he'd say " Meow " as in, yes, that's it.

>

> Winnie: You will either roll your eyes or laugh or both - b/c that's

a " gifted " thing!! Have you

> had that kid tested yet? :-P

>

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Well, he's 16 now so we've already discovered his " genius. " He a musician,

artist and a math whiz and over the years we've had much eye rolling and

laughing over things he has said/done. He has a different take on things than

others--very intuitive. It's almost scary. We explain it as " he's . "

Winnie

attentive mother- Re: Has anyone notice this?

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>

> >

> > My second son, , the late speaker used to speak " cat " when

> he was 2 or 3. He would

> meow whatever he had to say and if I answered him in " human, " he

> would get mad. If I

> meowed back, he'd say " Meow " as in, yes, that's it.

>

> Winnie: You will either roll your eyes or laugh or both - b/c

> that's a " gifted " thing!! Have you

> had that kid tested yet? :-P

>

>

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Sometimes I think he's my favorite...

Winnie

attentive mother- Re: Has anyone notice this?

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> That sounds like a very gifted child. They can be so odd and

> imaginative.

>

> Diane

>

> > > My second son, , the late speaker used to speak " cat "

> when he

> was 2 or 3. He would

> > meow whatever he had to say and if I answered him in " human, "

> he

> would get mad. If I

> > meowed back, he'd say " Meow " as in, yes, that's it.

> >

> > Winnie: You will either roll your eyes or laugh or both - b/c

> that's

> a " gifted " thing!! Have you

> > had that kid tested yet? :-P

> >

>

>

>

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My son Meows. =)

He also dances to music, has since he was 4 months or so and tries to

beat a drum beat with the music.

At one he is now waving back at me two different ways and developing his

on sign language for things like he's hungry!

Doug and I are going to start teaching him sign language so he can

communicate better, he gets a kick out of it.

I think the vax mess up a lot of development for kids and I'm glad my

son has been spared! Now if he'd just grow some hair! =)

Dawn

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>

>

> Well, he's 16 now so we've already discovered his " genius. " He a

> musician, artist and a math whiz and over the years we've had much eye

> rolling and laughing over things he has said/done. He has a different

> take on things than others--very intuitive. It's almost scary. We

> explain it as " he's . "

>

> Winnie

> attentive mother- Re: Has anyone notice this?

> Vaccinations <mailto:Vaccinations%40>

>

> >

> > >

> > > My second son, , the late speaker used to speak " cat " when

> > he was 2 or 3. He would

> > meow whatever he had to say and if I answered him in " human, " he

> > would get mad. If I

> > meowed back, he'd say " Meow " as in, yes, that's it.

> >

> > Winnie: You will either roll your eyes or laugh or both - b/c

> > that's a " gifted " thing!! Have you

> > had that kid tested yet? :-P

> >

> >

>

>

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Okay, it's beginning to make sense. Are they copying their " brother and sister "

cats??

Winnie

attentive mother- Re: Has anyone

> notice this?

> > Vaccinations

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > My second son, , the late speaker used to speak " cat " when

> > > he was 2 or 3. He would

> > > meow whatever he had to say and if I answered him in

> " human, " he

> > > would get mad. If I

> > > meowed back, he'd say " Meow " as in, yes, that's it.

> > >

> > > Winnie: You will either roll your eyes or laugh or both - b/c

> > > that's a " gifted " thing!! Have you

> > > had that kid tested yet? :-P

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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which is why we shouldn't assume kids are these ways because of vaccination or

unvaccination....EVERY baby, child, toddler, etc...... is different and to say

they look or are a certain way because of vaccines or not is unfair. This is why

this topic bothers me so....... " the look " ....jsut horrible!

 

My opinion, Rina

Rina Barillas

From: herbmom92 <herbmom@...>

Subject: attentive mother- Re: Has anyone notice this?

Vaccinations

Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 4:05 PM

How funny, I was just sharing today with someone about how maybe some

kids don't talk because sometimes we are so intune with what they

need that we understand them etc.

Not saying that others aren't. It's just that I've noticed that some

kids don't seem the need to talk until later. While other kids are

more vocal and even like to hear themselves babble.

My children even though they don't talk until later do understand

very well. To well I think sometimes LOL>

I was shocked when at one 6 month appointment the Ped asked if my

child was speaking yet? I thought he was joking. He wasn't. Just

checking he said because some start talking early.

Diane

> My twins didn't speak mostly but had excellent receptive language

before 24months old. I

> had them evaluated at 18months b/c they didn't talk. I was told

that ALL of their needs were

> eagerly anticipated by an attentive mother (me) and that they had

absolutely no reason to

> speak up. They had everything they needed/wanted/ could dream of

having prior to having to

> scream/cry/beg for attention to get it.

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