Re: Started interviewing Peds today, and a Chicken Pox question...

[Guest guest]

Congradulations on the ped search. Sounds like you are off to a good

start :-)

As for the baby, one big question is did her mom have chicken pox?

If so, she is probly still partially protected from her mother

antibodies that are still in her system.

That fever she ran may be the ONLY symptom that she gets. I am

immune and never had a pox??? Maybe I was exposed soon after birth

or while I was nursing??? Who nows. But when everyother child in the

family had them I did not and in college I had to have the titer and

came up immune.

I would not worry. Hopfully she is now permanently immune :-)

andrea

>

> Hello all,

>

> We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not plan

to

> vax at all. Today I began the daunting task of interviewing

> pediatricians and was pleasantly surprised with my very first

visit.

> I will admit that I have been very nervous about these upcoming

> interviews as I expected some hardcore opposition to my position on

> the matter. It didn't help that the information packet they gave

me

> to look over while I waited consisted of tons of information about

> the importance of childhood vaccines, most of it authored by none

> other than Dr. Offit (ugh). Although I did wait for almost 45

> minutes to see both of the Drs at the practice, I was pleased to

hear

> them both say that they would be willing to respect a parent's

choice

> to delay vaccinating or to not vaccinate altogether. Both of them

> responded with " This is your child and you have to raise her, so we

> will respect the choices that you make as a parent " . I was able to

> interview them separately, and neither of them seemed pushy at

all.

> Both of them openly admitted they were not familiar with Dr. Sears

> delayed schedule, so they could not give me an opinion one way or

the

> other (I decided to start with the question of a delayed schedule

to

> feel out how they would respond to not vaxing at all). The male Dr

> in the practice asked if I was having a boy or girl, and when I

said

> girl he then openly admitted that he does not recommend the HPV

> vaccine at all due to it being so new with the long term affects

> being as yet unknown. He also mentioned some of the " possible "

> adverse reactions to the shot. I just smiled knowingly and nodded

my

> head. He asked me if I was a nurse because I seemed very educated

on

> the subject and I told him no, but that I had done tons of research

> on the subject and was very passionate about it. They are both

> proponents of breastfeeding and agreed with me that it is by far

one

> of the best ways to develop natural immunities.

>

> Overall I was very pleased with this visit, given that I expected

to

> walk out of there with another closed-minded ped scratched off my

> list. I do have four other consultations with different peds this

> week, but these two are definitely the front runners so far.

> Needless to say, I am VERY happy with this outcome!

>

> Now on to my question. My sister called me on the way home from

the

> dr to let me know that her two older boys (ages 3 and 4) have

chicken

> pox. BOTH of these children were vaccinated against chicken pox,

so

> I couldn't resist telling her " I told you so " . And of course I

> pointed out that not only were the boys exposed to the dangers of

the

> vaccine, but that the vaccine didn't offer them protection anyway.

> Fortunately, I think she is beginning to see the light. Anyway,

her

> daughter is just three months old and has not had any vaccinations

at

> all. She called me because she is afraid of how her daughter will

be

> affected if/when she contracts the pox. I told her not to worry

> about the boys and that this was a blessing because natural pox

will

> most likely provide them with true immunity. I would assume the

same

> is true for her daughter, but was wondering how hard this is going

to

> be on her little system. She is formula fed, but again has not had

> any vaccinations to harm her immune system. So far she has been a

> totally healthy baby. My sister said she ran a slight fever last

> night (101.4), but she took my advice on not giving her anything

for

> it and it was gone by this am. The baby does not yet have any of

the

> bumps but she says the boys are covered in them. I'm really not

sure

> what to tell her about this. Any ideas are much appreciated.

> Thanks!

> le in MS

>

[Guest guest]

Hey le -

I have a question- I thought in MS the only way to not vax was a

(probably impossible to obtain) medical exemption??

How are you going to not vax?

Have the laws changed there?

>

> Hello all,

>

> We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not plan to

> vax at all. > Thanks!

> le in MS

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like you put the docs where you wanted them. Bear in mind

though, that they were on their " best behavior " as they knew they were

being interviewed. The real test will be when you're in front of one

of them with your child in-hand and whether they resort to scare

tactics to try to get you to vax when because they feel you are more

vulnerable. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but perhaps after you

choose a ped you should get something in writing from them stating

they will respect your decision not to vax and/or give drugs freely

and agree not to bully you about it later.

Are you interviewing any natropaths or homeopaths in the mix? Also,

I'd recommend a good chiropractor in addition to your regular doctor.

My chiro is our " primary physician " , I don't use peds at all. In

fact, chiropractic is a GOD SEND for pregnancy too, especially in the

third trimester! They can work to ensure your hips are properly

aligned for an easier birth experience. I had regular chiropractic

treatments (once or twice a week, but I'm an addict) during the third

trimesters of both of my pregnancies. I had VERY easy births, and I

attribute a LOT of that to the care I received from my chiros (along

with HypnoBirthing and birthing at home). My oldest son (2 1/2 yrs

old now) had his first adjustment when he was four days old, and my

younger son (now 4 months old) had his first adjustment at less than

24 hours old. Most babies are born with slight subluxions that are

better dealt with early. For instance, my youngest would SCREAM...

not cry... SCREAM at every diaper change the first day. My husband

told my chiro this and he promptly came over to the house (since my

midwife had forbade us from going anywhere in public for the first

week) and very gently adjusted him. Alas, no more screaming at every

diaper change! He was a new baby all over again! LOL I take both

kids in for an adjustment at least once a month, but usually more like

every two weeks. They love their adjustments almost as much as I love

mine!

Congratulations on the upcoming addition to your family. What a lucky

child to have a caring parent that is willing to take the steps you

are taking now to ensure a healthy life. Kudos to you, Mama!

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:04 PM, sphynxlover2 <AST42701@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not plan to

> vax at all. Today I began the daunting task of interviewing

> pediatricians and was pleasantly surprised with my very first visit.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

As far as I know, the " requirement " to vax only applies to school age

children. And you are right, MS only recognizes a medical exemption

for children to enter school unvaxed. I have already discussed with my

Midwife and the hospital staff that absolutely nothing (Heb B, Vitamin

K, Erythromycin, etc) is to be given to my child at birth. No one has

questioned that at all and I don't anticipate having a problem. She

will not be taken from us AT ALL after birth. This has also been

discussed with hospital staff (yes, we are going to be THOSE

parents...LOL). We obviously have a few years before we have to worry

about the school issue, but we do not plan to be living in MS when our

little girl is school age. If by some chance we are, we will home

school. My MIL is a retired teacher and she'd be more than happy to

help us out with that. It's sad that a parent has to go to such

extremes to protect their child, but we will do what we must.

le in MS

> Hey le -

> I have a question- I thought in MS the only way to not vax was a

> (probably impossible to obtain) medical exemption??

> How are you going to not vax?

> Have the laws changed there?

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not plan

to

> > vax at all. > Thanks!

> > le in MS

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Good for you le!  Sounds like you've got things covered.

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From: sphynxlover2 <AST42701@...>

Subject: Re: Started interviewing Peds today, and a Chicken Pox

question...

Vaccinations

Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 11:23 AM

Hi ,

As far as I know, the " requirement " to vax only applies to school age

children. And you are right, MS only recognizes a medical exemption

for children to enter school unvaxed. I have already discussed with my

Midwife and the hospital staff that absolutely nothing (Heb B, Vitamin

K, Erythromycin, etc) is to be given to my child at birth. No one has

questioned that at all and I don't anticipate having a problem. She

will not be taken from us AT ALL after birth. This has also been

discussed with hospital staff (yes, we are going to be THOSE

parents...LOL) . We obviously have a few years before we have to worry

about the school issue, but we do not plan to be living in MS when our

little girl is school age. If by some chance we are, we will home

school. My MIL is a retired teacher and she'd be more than happy to

help us out with that. It's sad that a parent has to go to such

extremes to protect their child, but we will do what we must.

le in MS

> Hey le -

> I have a question- I thought in MS the only way to not vax was a

> (probably impossible to obtain) medical exemption??

> How are you going to not vax?

> Have the laws changed there?

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not plan

to

> > vax at all. > Thanks!

> > le in MS

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> As for the baby, one big question is did her mom have chicken pox?

Yes, mom did have chicken pox. We had them at the same time as

children. I believe we were around 6 and 7 years old at the time. So

far, so good. She is currently doing fine and hopefully will aquire

immunity from this!

le

[Guest guest]

The real test will be when you're in front of one

> of them with your child in-hand and whether they resort to scare

> tactics to try to get you to vax when because they feel you are more

> vulnerable.

I have considered this. I suspect that this *could* be an issue with

the female dr in the practice, but felt that the male dr would

respect my decisions without any bullying at all. That was what I

gathered from my meeting with them, anyway. Trust me, scare tactics

aren't going to work with me! I am FAR more fearful of potential

vaccine reactions (I have 2 vaccine damaged nephews) than of most

VPDs. No one is going to pressure me to do something to my child

that I feel could harm her. My issue with the bullying is that I

tend to get pi$$ed off and lose my cool so my argument kind of goes

out the window. KWIM?

>

> Are you interviewing any natropaths or homeopaths in the mix?

Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any Naturopaths or

Homeopaths in my area. And the chiropractors in the area are more of

the allopathic mindset (I have been to several of them myself) and

don't actually see patients for anything other than skeletal

problems. I would love to be able to see a chiro for prenatal

visits, but the ones around here won't touch a pregnant woman. I am

thinking I'll be hard pressed to find one that would adjust a baby as

young as four days old. It's hard to find any kind of medical care

that's " out of the ordinary " here on the coast now.

Thank you for the inforamtion though, it is really appreciated. I

will keep on with my search and hopefully I will stumble across the

right doctor for us!

le in MS

[Guest guest]

le,

Congrats on the upcoming arrival!! I just wanted to warn you

though....It is not that hard to find a doctor who " accepts " your

decision to not vaccinate. What is very difficult is finding a

doctor who will not make you sign the AAP's Refusal to Vaccinate

Form. So, during the interview, make sure you ask what their

office's policy is regarding that form. Whatever you do - don't sign

it!! (I have a 17 mo. old...and called every doctor's office in my

state - only to find one practice that will not make me sign

anything!!)

>

> Hello all,

>

> We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not plan

to

> vax at all. Today I began the daunting task of interviewing

> pediatricians and was pleasantly surprised with my very first

visit.

> I will admit that I have been very nervous about these upcoming

> interviews as I expected some hardcore opposition to my position on

> the matter. It didn't help that the information packet they gave

me

> to look over while I waited consisted of tons of information about

> the importance of childhood vaccines, most of it authored by none

> other than Dr. Offit (ugh). Although I did wait for almost 45

> minutes to see both of the Drs at the practice, I was pleased to

hear

> them both say that they would be willing to respect a parent's

choice

> to delay vaccinating or to not vaccinate altogether. Both of them

> responded with " This is your child and you have to raise her, so we

> will respect the choices that you make as a parent " . I was able to

> interview them separately, and neither of them seemed pushy at

all.

> Both of them openly admitted they were not familiar with Dr. Sears

> delayed schedule, so they could not give me an opinion one way or

the

> other (I decided to start with the question of a delayed schedule

to

> feel out how they would respond to not vaxing at all). The male Dr

> in the practice asked if I was having a boy or girl, and when I

said

> girl he then openly admitted that he does not recommend the HPV

> vaccine at all due to it being so new with the long term affects

> being as yet unknown. He also mentioned some of the " possible "

> adverse reactions to the shot. I just smiled knowingly and nodded

my

> head. He asked me if I was a nurse because I seemed very educated

on

> the subject and I told him no, but that I had done tons of research

> on the subject and was very passionate about it. They are both

> proponents of breastfeeding and agreed with me that it is by far

one

> of the best ways to develop natural immunities.

>

> Overall I was very pleased with this visit, given that I expected

to

> walk out of there with another closed-minded ped scratched off my

> list. I do have four other consultations with different peds this

> week, but these two are definitely the front runners so far.

> Needless to say, I am VERY happy with this outcome!

>

> Now on to my question. My sister called me on the way home from

the

> dr to let me know that her two older boys (ages 3 and 4) have

chicken

> pox. BOTH of these children were vaccinated against chicken pox,

so

> I couldn't resist telling her " I told you so " . And of course I

> pointed out that not only were the boys exposed to the dangers of

the

> vaccine, but that the vaccine didn't offer them protection anyway.

> Fortunately, I think she is beginning to see the light. Anyway,

her

> daughter is just three months old and has not had any vaccinations

at

> all. She called me because she is afraid of how her daughter will

be

> affected if/when she contracts the pox. I told her not to worry

> about the boys and that this was a blessing because natural pox

will

> most likely provide them with true immunity. I would assume the

same

> is true for her daughter, but was wondering how hard this is going

to

> be on her little system. She is formula fed, but again has not had

> any vaccinations to harm her immune system. So far she has been a

> totally healthy baby. My sister said she ran a slight fever last

> night (101.4), but she took my advice on not giving her anything

for

> it and it was gone by this am. The baby does not yet have any of

the

> bumps but she says the boys are covered in them. I'm really not

sure

> what to tell her about this. Any ideas are much appreciated.

> Thanks!

> le in MS

>

[Guest guest]

What is the AAP Refusal to Vaccinate Form?  I have never heard of this before?

From: Dawn <dawndanc@...>

Subject: Re: Started interviewing Peds today, and a Chicken Pox

question...

Vaccinations

Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 1:09 AM

le,

Congrats on the upcoming arrival!! I just wanted to warn you

though....It is not that hard to find a doctor who " accepts " your

decision to not vaccinate. What is very difficult is finding a

doctor who will not make you sign the AAP's Refusal to Vaccinate

Form. So, during the interview, make sure you ask what their

office's policy is regarding that form. Whatever you do - don't sign

it!! (I have a 17 mo. old...and called every doctor's office in my

state - only to find one practice that will not make me sign

anything!!)

>

> Hello all,

>

> We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not plan

to

> vax at all. Today I began the daunting task of interviewing

> pediatricians and was pleasantly surprised with my very first

visit.

> I will admit that I have been very nervous about these upcoming

> interviews as I expected some hardcore opposition to my position on

> the matter. It didn't help that the information packet they gave

me

> to look over while I waited consisted of tons of information about

> the importance of childhood vaccines, most of it authored by none

> other than Dr. Offit (ugh). Although I did wait for almost 45

> minutes to see both of the Drs at the practice, I was pleased to

hear

> them both say that they would be willing to respect a parent's

choice

> to delay vaccinating or to not vaccinate altogether. Both of them

> responded with " This is your child and you have to raise her, so we

> will respect the choices that you make as a parent " . I was able to

> interview them separately, and neither of them seemed pushy at

all.

> Both of them openly admitted they were not familiar with Dr. Sears

> delayed schedule, so they could not give me an opinion one way or

the

> other (I decided to start with the question of a delayed schedule

to

> feel out how they would respond to not vaxing at all). The male Dr

> in the practice asked if I was having a boy or girl, and when I

said

> girl he then openly admitted that he does not recommend the HPV

> vaccine at all due to it being so new with the long term affects

> being as yet unknown. He also mentioned some of the " possible "

> adverse reactions to the shot. I just smiled knowingly and nodded

my

> head. He asked me if I was a nurse because I seemed very educated

on

> the subject and I told him no, but that I had done tons of research

> on the subject and was very passionate about it. They are both

> proponents of breastfeeding and agreed with me that it is by far

one

> of the best ways to develop natural immunities.

>

> Overall I was very pleased with this visit, given that I expected

to

> walk out of there with another closed-minded ped scratched off my

> list. I do have four other consultations with different peds this

> week, but these two are definitely the front runners so far.

> Needless to say, I am VERY happy with this outcome!

>

> Now on to my question. My sister called me on the way home from

the

> dr to let me know that her two older boys (ages 3 and 4) have

chicken

> pox. BOTH of these children were vaccinated against chicken pox,

so

> I couldn't resist telling her " I told you so " . And of course I

> pointed out that not only were the boys exposed to the dangers of

the

> vaccine, but that the vaccine didn't offer them protection anyway.

> Fortunately, I think she is beginning to see the light. Anyway,

her

> daughter is just three months old and has not had any vaccinations

at

> all. She called me because she is afraid of how her daughter will

be

> affected if/when she contracts the pox. I told her not to worry

> about the boys and that this was a blessing because natural pox

will

> most likely provide them with true immunity. I would assume the

same

> is true for her daughter, but was wondering how hard this is going

to

> be on her little system. She is formula fed, but again has not had

> any vaccinations to harm her immune system. So far she has been a

> totally healthy baby. My sister said she ran a slight fever last

> night (101.4), but she took my advice on not giving her anything

for

> it and it was gone by this am. The baby does not yet have any of

the

> bumps but she says the boys are covered in them. I'm really not

sure

> what to tell her about this. Any ideas are much appreciated.

> Thanks!

> le in MS

>

[Guest guest]

It is a form that the AAP put out for patients to sign stating that

they refuse vaccinations even though not getting thier child

vaccinated is a bad decision and makes you a neglectful parent. That

vaccine will prevent your child from getting the disease and your

child will die if they get them....blah.blah....blah

Basically don't sign it. It implies that you a neglecting your child

by NOT vaxing. I gave my ped an alternative form from the

vaccination liberation site that states it in a more positive way.

Like I know that vaxing had risks, I've done my research, the

diseases were declining PRIOR to vax. Basically, I'm an informed

parent who is refusing to vax and IF my child get the measles, I will

not sue the DR.

That last line was all the Dr wanted. He wanted a statement stating

he is not lialbe if my child gets one of the diseases.

andrea

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not

plan

> to

> > vax at all. Today I began the daunting task of interviewing

> > pediatricians and was pleasantly surprised with my very first

> visit.

> > I will admit that I have been very nervous about these upcoming

> > interviews as I expected some hardcore opposition to my position

on

> > the matter. It didn't help that the information packet they gave

> me

> > to look over while I waited consisted of tons of information

about

> > the importance of childhood vaccines, most of it authored by none

> > other than Dr. Offit (ugh). Although I did wait for almost

45

> > minutes to see both of the Drs at the practice, I was pleased to

> hear

> > them both say that they would be willing to respect a parent's

> choice

> > to delay vaccinating or to not vaccinate altogether. Both of them

> > responded with " This is your child and you have to raise her, so

we

> > will respect the choices that you make as a parent " . I was able

to

> > interview them separately, and neither of them seemed pushy at

> all.

> > Both of them openly admitted they were not familiar with Dr.

Sears

> > delayed schedule, so they could not give me an opinion one way or

> the

> > other (I decided to start with the question of a delayed schedule

> to

> > feel out how they would respond to not vaxing at all). The male

Dr

> > in the practice asked if I was having a boy or girl, and when I

> said

> > girl he then openly admitted that he does not recommend the HPV

> > vaccine at all due to it being so new with the long term affects

> > being as yet unknown. He also mentioned some of the " possible "

> > adverse reactions to the shot. I just smiled knowingly and nodded

> my

> > head. He asked me if I was a nurse because I seemed very educated

> on

> > the subject and I told him no, but that I had done tons of

research

> > on the subject and was very passionate about it. They are both

> > proponents of breastfeeding and agreed with me that it is by far

> one

> > of the best ways to develop natural immunities.

> >

> > Overall I was very pleased with this visit, given that I expected

> to

> > walk out of there with another closed-minded ped scratched off my

> > list. I do have four other consultations with different peds this

> > week, but these two are definitely the front runners so far.

> > Needless to say, I am VERY happy with this outcome!

> >

> > Now on to my question. My sister called me on the way home from

> the

> > dr to let me know that her two older boys (ages 3 and 4) have

> chicken

> > pox. BOTH of these children were vaccinated against chicken pox,

> so

> > I couldn't resist telling her " I told you so " . And of course I

> > pointed out that not only were the boys exposed to the dangers of

> the

> > vaccine, but that the vaccine didn't offer them protection

anyway.

> > Fortunately, I think she is beginning to see the light. Anyway,

> her

> > daughter is just three months old and has not had any

vaccinations

> at

> > all. She called me because she is afraid of how her daughter will

> be

> > affected if/when she contracts the pox. I told her not to worry

> > about the boys and that this was a blessing because natural pox

> will

> > most likely provide them with true immunity. I would assume the

> same

> > is true for her daughter, but was wondering how hard this is

going

> to

> > be on her little system. She is formula fed, but again has not

had

> > any vaccinations to harm her immune system. So far she has been a

> > totally healthy baby. My sister said she ran a slight fever last

> > night (101.4), but she took my advice on not giving her anything

> for

> > it and it was gone by this am. The baby does not yet have any of

> the

> > bumps but she says the boys are covered in them. I'm really not

> sure

> > what to tell her about this. Any ideas are much appreciated.

> > Thanks!

> > le in MS

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have a question......does this AAP refusal form in certian states only? I am

in Cali and so far have not had to sign that waiver for any doctor office and I

have been through 5 peds offices.

 

Rina

Rina Barillas

From: <carebearandrea@...>

Subject: Re: Started interviewing Peds today, and a Chicken Pox

question...

Vaccinations

Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 6:53 PM

It is a form that the AAP put out for patients to sign stating that

they refuse vaccinations even though not getting thier child

vaccinated is a bad decision and makes you a neglectful parent. That

vaccine will prevent your child from getting the disease and your

child will die if they get them....blah. blah....blah

Basically don't sign it. It implies that you a neglecting your child

by NOT vaxing. I gave my ped an alternative form from the

vaccination liberation site that states it in a more positive way.

Like I know that vaxing had risks, I've done my research, the

diseases were declining PRIOR to vax. Basically, I'm an informed

parent who is refusing to vax and IF my child get the measles, I will

not sue the DR.

That last line was all the Dr wanted. He wanted a statement stating

he is not lialbe if my child gets one of the diseases.

andrea

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not

plan

> to

> > vax at all. Today I began the daunting task of interviewing

> > pediatricians and was pleasantly surprised with my very first

> visit.

> > I will admit that I have been very nervous about these upcoming

> > interviews as I expected some hardcore opposition to my position

on

> > the matter. It didn't help that the information packet they gave

> me

> > to look over while I waited consisted of tons of information

about

> > the importance of childhood vaccines, most of it authored by none

> > other than Dr. Offit (ugh). Although I did wait for almost

45

> > minutes to see both of the Drs at the practice, I was pleased to

> hear

> > them both say that they would be willing to respect a parent's

> choice

> > to delay vaccinating or to not vaccinate altogether. Both of them

> > responded with " This is your child and you have to raise her, so

we

> > will respect the choices that you make as a parent " . I was able

to

> > interview them separately, and neither of them seemed pushy at

> all.

> > Both of them openly admitted they were not familiar with Dr.

Sears

> > delayed schedule, so they could not give me an opinion one way or

> the

> > other (I decided to start with the question of a delayed schedule

> to

> > feel out how they would respond to not vaxing at all). The male

Dr

> > in the practice asked if I was having a boy or girl, and when I

> said

> > girl he then openly admitted that he does not recommend the HPV

> > vaccine at all due to it being so new with the long term affects

> > being as yet unknown. He also mentioned some of the " possible "

> > adverse reactions to the shot. I just smiled knowingly and nodded

> my

> > head. He asked me if I was a nurse because I seemed very educated

> on

> > the subject and I told him no, but that I had done tons of

research

> > on the subject and was very passionate about it. They are both

> > proponents of breastfeeding and agreed with me that it is by far

> one

> > of the best ways to develop natural immunities.

> >

> > Overall I was very pleased with this visit, given that I expected

> to

> > walk out of there with another closed-minded ped scratched off my

> > list. I do have four other consultations with different peds this

> > week, but these two are definitely the front runners so far.

> > Needless to say, I am VERY happy with this outcome!

> >

> > Now on to my question. My sister called me on the way home from

> the

> > dr to let me know that her two older boys (ages 3 and 4) have

> chicken

> > pox. BOTH of these children were vaccinated against chicken pox,

> so

> > I couldn't resist telling her " I told you so " . And of course I

> > pointed out that not only were the boys exposed to the dangers of

> the

> > vaccine, but that the vaccine didn't offer them protection

anyway.

> > Fortunately, I think she is beginning to see the light. Anyway,

> her

> > daughter is just three months old and has not had any

vaccinations

> at

> > all. She called me because she is afraid of how her daughter will

> be

> > affected if/when she contracts the pox. I told her not to worry

> > about the boys and that this was a blessing because natural pox

> will

> > most likely provide them with true immunity. I would assume the

> same

> > is true for her daughter, but was wondering how hard this is

going

> to

> > be on her little system. She is formula fed, but again has not

had

> > any vaccinations to harm her immune system. So far she has been a

> > totally healthy baby. My sister said she ran a slight fever last

> > night (101.4), but she took my advice on not giving her anything

> for

> > it and it was gone by this am. The baby does not yet have any of

> the

> > bumps but she says the boys are covered in them. I'm really not

> sure

> > what to tell her about this. Any ideas are much appreciated.

> > Thanks!

> > le in MS

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[Guest guest]

The form is for all states but it is up to the doctor if they want to

use it or not.

andrea

> > >

> > > Hello all,

> > >

> > > We are expecting our first child on September 25th and do not

> plan

> > to

> > > vax at all. Today I began the daunting task of interviewing

> > > pediatricians and was pleasantly surprised with my very first

> > visit.

> > > I will admit that I have been very nervous about these upcoming

> > > interviews as I expected some hardcore opposition to my

position

> on

> > > the matter. It didn't help that the information packet they

gave

> > me

> > > to look over while I waited consisted of tons of information

> about

> > > the importance of childhood vaccines, most of it authored by

none

> > > other than Dr. Offit (ugh). Although I did wait for almost

> 45

> > > minutes to see both of the Drs at the practice, I was pleased

to

> > hear

> > > them both say that they would be willing to respect a parent's

> > choice

> > > to delay vaccinating or to not vaccinate altogether. Both of

them

> > > responded with " This is your child and you have to raise her,

so

> we

> > > will respect the choices that you make as a parent " . I was able

> to

> > > interview them separately, and neither of them seemed pushy at

> > all.

> > > Both of them openly admitted they were not familiar with Dr.

> Sears

> > > delayed schedule, so they could not give me an opinion one way

or

> > the

> > > other (I decided to start with the question of a delayed

schedule

> > to

> > > feel out how they would respond to not vaxing at all). The male

> Dr

> > > in the practice asked if I was having a boy or girl, and when I

> > said

> > > girl he then openly admitted that he does not recommend the HPV

> > > vaccine at all due to it being so new with the long term

affects

> > > being as yet unknown. He also mentioned some of the " possible "

> > > adverse reactions to the shot. I just smiled knowingly and

nodded

> > my

> > > head. He asked me if I was a nurse because I seemed very

educated

> > on

> > > the subject and I told him no, but that I had done tons of

> research

> > > on the subject and was very passionate about it. They are both

> > > proponents of breastfeeding and agreed with me that it is by

far

> > one

> > > of the best ways to develop natural immunities.

> > >

> > > Overall I was very pleased with this visit, given that I

expected

> > to

> > > walk out of there with another closed-minded ped scratched off

my

> > > list. I do have four other consultations with different peds

this

> > > week, but these two are definitely the front runners so far.

> > > Needless to say, I am VERY happy with this outcome!

> > >

> > > Now on to my question. My sister called me on the way home from

> > the

> > > dr to let me know that her two older boys (ages 3 and 4) have

> > chicken

> > > pox. BOTH of these children were vaccinated against chicken

pox,

> > so

> > > I couldn't resist telling her " I told you so " . And of course I

> > > pointed out that not only were the boys exposed to the dangers

of

> > the

> > > vaccine, but that the vaccine didn't offer them protection

> anyway.

> > > Fortunately, I think she is beginning to see the light. Anyway,

> > her

> > > daughter is just three months old and has not had any

> vaccinations

> > at

> > > all. She called me because she is afraid of how her daughter

will

> > be

> > > affected if/when she contracts the pox. I told her not to worry

> > > about the boys and that this was a blessing because natural pox

> > will

> > > most likely provide them with true immunity. I would assume the

> > same

> > > is true for her daughter, but was wondering how hard this is

> going

> > to

> > > be on her little system. She is formula fed, but again has not

> had

> > > any vaccinations to harm her immune system. So far she has been

a

> > > totally healthy baby. My sister said she ran a slight fever

last

> > > night (101.4), but she took my advice on not giving her

anything

> > for

> > > it and it was gone by this am. The baby does not yet have any

of

> > the

> > > bumps but she says the boys are covered in them. I'm really not

> > sure

> > > what to tell her about this. Any ideas are much appreciated.

> > > Thanks!

> > > le in MS

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