Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 julie... " i've done my research and its my decision " is all i would ever feel the need to say. trying to give an allopath statistics and reasons why i don't vax in an effort to get him/her to " understand " seems like a waste of time to me. if they were interested in knowing the truth the would research and inform the patient of all the dangers and then let the parent make the choice. i think your suggestion is a good idea though for those that do well baby visits. ari Arianna Mojica- (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston ~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health ~~~A truth¢s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden www.vaclib.org www.909shot.com http://www.vacinfo.org/ http://www.vran.org/ http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htm http://www.moorbows.com/ Please list ONE reason why you don't vaccinate I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone posted back that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that we're not caught off guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle brained mother of two toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I don't vaccinate - I've done my research and it's my decision. But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it up..... I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't really have the info at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? Thanks in MD for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in vaccines for the last 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I don't have much time at the moment either... but my #1 response is: I do not want my child's immune system to respond a certain way. Meaning...I do NOT want my child's immune system to respond with the fight or flight TH2 cell response. I want her immune system to respond with the natural TH1 response so that her immune system is STRENGTHEND instead of weakened and surpressed. Search these archives for TH1 and TH2 responses and you'll find some good stuff. GL compiling the list. Post the finished list here when you compile it all together! Take care! Tara > > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone posted back > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that we're not caught off > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle brained mother of two > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I don't vaccinate - I've done > my research and it's my decision. > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it up..... > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't really have the info > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > Thanks > in MD > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in vaccines for the last > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 The best place to see that there are preservatives in vaccines is from the package inserts themselves: http://www.whale.to/vaccines/pack.html Here is the CDC's list of vaccine ingredients and what the ingredients are used for: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table\ -1.pdf Here is the CDC's list of vaccine ingredients listed by vaccine name: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table\ -2.pdf I highly recommend purchasing the book, " Vaccine Safety Manual " by Neil Z. . It has a lot of the information you are looking to have at your fingertips, and you could even take it with you to doctor's appointments. However, if you can get comfortable in your own skin with foregoing well-baby checks and/or seeing an allopathic doctor altogether, I'd switch to a natropath or other holistic doc that can help you. My children don't see allopaths at all, except for the ER in emergency conditions (which I've had to do once so far). At the very least, a family GP would probably be a little less likely to push vaccines than a ped, and an osteopath would be even better. The reason I don't vaccinate? Well, there are a TON. The biggest reason is that I'm more fearful of the vaccines and the effects my children could suffer (i.e. allergies, asthma, autism, ADHD, ADD, eczema, depression, DEATH, etc.) than I am of dealing with any of the diseases the vaccines are purported to protect from. For instance, everyone is so afraid of the measles because of all the media hype, but it is really a rather mild illness for most children, lasting only a few days. Why subject my child to a lifetime of autism to avoid a mild childhood disease that, if he caught naturally, would render him immune to for the rest of his life (rather than having to have booster after booster)? If you do decide to continue with allopaths, then turn it back on them.... instead of letting them ask questions that you have to defend, why not ask THEM the questions? Put them on the defensive for a change! For instance, why is it that the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture these vaccines, and the doctors that administer said vaccines, are not held accountable for the harm their products do to our children? Take away liability and you give free reign to let quality control slide. Merck, who has made headlines for their deceit with their VIOXX safety studies, is one of the manufacturers of the vaccines that are given to our children. Why should we parents believe they won't lie about their vaccines if they would lie about their other drugs, all in the name of profit? Nowhere in nature are diseases introduced into the human body in conjunction with neurotoxins and chemicals, and nowhere in nature are up to nine diseases introduced into the human body all at once on the same day. Yet, this is exactly what we are doing every time we jab our children according to the CDC's schedule. How can we possibly expect our children to remain healthy with their immune systems under attack to that degree? If these childhood diseases are SO deadly, how did our race survive? Has he/she ever actually seen (with their own eyes, not just " heard of " ) someone die from measles, mumps or the chicken pox? Oh my gosh, I could go on and on, but I'll stop there for now! From one rattle-brained, sleep deprived mother to another, good luck to you! On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM, mom_2_o <deepgreensea@...> wrote: > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone > posted back > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that > we're not caught off > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle > brained mother of two > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I > don't vaccinate - I've done > my research and it's my decision. > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they > don't > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it > up..... > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't > really have the info > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > Thanks > in MD > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in > vaccines for the last > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 My biggest issue is that every single vaccine carries the disclaimer that they have never been studied in the areas of cancer, altering of DNA, or impairment of fertility. http://vaers.hhs.gov/pdf/PackageInserts.pdf (to view all vaccines) http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf (page 7 to view ex. of new warning) Also, how can doctors have so much faith in companies like Glaxo Kline and Merck when they have been all over the news for covering up the deaths of thousands of people with Vioxx and Paxil? These are the same companies that manufacturer vaccines (no current safety net for checks and balances either)!! Ask your doctor to have his head examined while you are at it too. > > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone > > posted back > > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that > > we're not caught off > > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle > > brained mother of two > > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I > > don't vaccinate - I've done > > my research and it's my decision. > > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they > > don't > > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it > > up..... > > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't > > really have the info > > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > > > Thanks > > in MD > > > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in > > vaccines for the last > > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 We have have done our homework but I think the one book that totally conviced us was Tim O'Shea's. I believe his website is www.thedrwithin.com or something along that line. We have also had support from the chiropractors we have seen over the years. They are full of knowledge on the subject.  We also try to avoid the dr office. When our current dr finds out he will refuse to see us. From: mom_2_o <deepgreensea@...> Subject: Please list ONE reason why you don't vaccinate Vaccinations Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 4:27 PM I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone posted back that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that we're not caught off guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle brained mother of two toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I don't vaccinate - I've done my research and it's my decision. But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it up..... I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't really have the info at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? Thanks in MD for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in vaccines for the last 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 My son is 16 months/unvaxed so my current reason why I don't vaccinate is because I have never known a healthier and happier baby than my own and he obviously did not need any vaccines to keep him healthy or disease free. We are poor clients for our docs., we don't make them any money because we rarely or ever see them. The pharma companies hate us too because once we refuse vaccines, we generally have no need for their other garbage. Parents are not vaccinating more and more and I think before it was so few that it really didn't hurt the docs and pharmas pockets, but now since parents are educating themselves more, they are starting to feel financial loss, probably still not too big, but it is growing. > > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone posted back > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that we're not caught off > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle brained mother of two > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I don't vaccinate - I've done > my research and it's my decision. > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it up..... > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't really have the info > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > Thanks > in MD > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in vaccines for the last > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 > > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone posted back > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that we're not caught off > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle brained mother of two > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I don't vaccinate - I've done > my research and it's my decision. > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it up..... > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't really have the info > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > Thanks > in MD > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in vaccines for the last > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? > There are so many reasons, but the one that I always think of first is that several vaccines are cultured on aborted human fetal tissue. This totally goes against my personal religious views. It shocks me that more people in my church don't know this fact. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 > > There are so many reasons, but the one that I always think of first > is that several vaccines are cultured on aborted human fetal tissue. > This totally goes against my personal religious views. It shocks me > that more people in my church don't know this fact. -- > I totally agree with you . Usually the same people so against abortion and stem cell research have no problem taking vaccines or giving it to their children, most don't know. My husband is Muslim so he also does not like that some vaccines are made with pig blood. Of course, not that monkey or cow blood is any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 #1 reason--I don't want to spend years trying to detox anymore vaccine-damaged kids. 2 is enough. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Exactly! A lot of people joke that HPV really stands for: Help Pay for Vioxx Because of all the money Merck has had to pay out in the Vioxx lawsuites. So now they really need to make bank on their new HPV vacccine. If this vaccine continues to sell big, then the Vioxx pay outs will only be a small drop in the bucket for them. Just like most women wouldn't believe a man that said they were through with lying and cheating, why should we believe Merck is done covering up information that hurts their bottom line? Sylvia > > > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up > and someone > > > posted back > > > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate > so that > > > we're not caught off > > > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, > rattle > > > brained mother of two > > > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of > why I > > > don't vaccinate - I've done > > > my research and it's my decision. > > > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE > reason that they > > > don't > > > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article > to back it > > > up..... > > > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but > I don't > > > really have the info > > > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > > > > > Thanks > > > in MD > > > > > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been > preservatives in > > > vaccines for the last > > > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put > in? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I don't vaccinate because that's the default. The burden of proof is on those who want to change the body from it's natural state, and they haven't proved to me yet that it's worth it. So to me the question isn't " Why wouldn't you vax? " it's " Why *would* you vax? " I hope that makes sense. Bronwyn Wife to Kurt since 5/02 Mom to: Dorian (7/04) Faith (2/06) Quinn (4/08) and my faithful steed Teo (4/91) since 9/95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 The reason I don't vaccinate anymore is because after my son's 6 month round of shots he began seizing. He was having over 100 seizures per day and 9 days after was diagnosed with Infantile Spasms, which is a catastrophic form of epilepsy. His prognosis of surviving without severe brain damage was very poor. He has beaten all odds, and at 22 months is developing normally, but obviously I will never take a chance like that agian. Since that round of shots, my son has been hospitalized 9 times, developed allergies, eczema, sensory issues, behavior issues, and obviously the IS. He had to get a feeding tube, I had to give him shots in his leg for 12 weeks to stop the seizures, and he will have to be on anti-convulsants for possibly his whole life since even with them he still has breakthrough seizures. www.caringbridge.org/visit/kcmahoney www.greenthevaccines.blogspot.com > > > > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and > someone posted back > > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so > that we're not caught off > > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, > rattle brained mother of two > > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of > why I don't vaccinate - I've done > > my research and it's my decision. > > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason > that they don't > > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to > back it up..... > > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but > I don't really have the info > > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > > > Thanks > > in MD > > > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives > in vaccines for the last > > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 My top reason I don't vaccinate - the adverse reactions from the vaccines scare me more than from the diseases. )0(~~~)0(~~~)0( Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born 06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Thalea, born 06/24/07. MC - 4/20/08 Read Thalea's birth story here: http://www.jessicas-haven.com/baby.htm Vaccine free since 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 My first and foremost reason is the toxins that every vaccine has. But coming a pretty close second is the fact they don't work. We are told of the dangers of all the different toxins, when exposed, yet they think it is fine to inject directly in the body. Where is the logic in that. And then you hear that a child, who has been put at risk by the toxic injection, still gets the disease anyway. No logic in that either. But it seems that science and Pharma, don't understand logic unless it has a dollar sign after it. Fieldman Please list ONE reason why you don't vaccinate I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone posted back that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that we're not caught off guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle brained mother of two toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I don't vaccinate - I've done my research and it's my decision. But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it up..... I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't really have the info at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? Thanks in MD for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in vaccines for the last 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 The main reason for me not vaccinating is the fact that between day 3 to day 10 or so the body loses 80% to 85% of it's immune system after a vaccination and I believe that that immune system will never recover to it's 100%. Add to that another vaccine in several weeks it's that same loss with never a full recovery. And vaccinating an infant who is still developing an immune system and it may be at only 50% or 75% to begin with and wiping out a goodly percentage of that is asking for a lifetime of ill health. Jackie Noel www.sagaciousairedales.com www.sagaciousdogcountry.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Heath isn't attained from a vaccine, pill, bottle, etc. True health comes from a healthy immune system, which comes from within. How can ANYONE think that injecting multitudes of toxins, chemicals, foreign DNA, etc. into a baby, or anyone for that matter, will lead to health... it just boggles my mind! Kay -----Original Message----- would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't vaccinate in MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Can you please show me where you found this info on the loss of immune system after vaccination...thanks. > > The main reason for me not vaccinating is the fact that between day 3 > to day 10 or so the body loses 80% to 85% of it's immune system after > a vaccination and I believe that that immune system will never recover > to it's 100%. Add to that another vaccine in several weeks it's that > same loss with never a full recovery. And vaccinating an infant who > is still developing an immune system and it may be at only 50% or 75% > to begin with and wiping out a goodly percentage of that is asking for > a lifetime of ill health. > > Jackie Noel > www.sagaciousairedales.com > www.sagaciousdogcountry.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I don't like that the same amount of vaccine is given to a toddler or baby as an adult. I don't like that so many are given at one time to a child - that does not mimic reality at all and overloads their immune system. I don't like all the added chemicals/toxins. s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 > > Can you please show me where you found this info on the loss of immune > system after vaccination...thanks. __________________ Vida, It's from O'Driscoll's book, I think entitled What Vet's Don't Tell You About Vaccines. I loaned out my book. But Google will give you the info. has a website too - Canine Health Concern, I believe. Jackie Noel www.sagaciousairedales.com www.sagaciousdogcountry.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Exactly Kay... and I woudl add that I refuse to let my child be used as a guinea pig. Arianna Mojica- (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston ~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health ~~~A truth¢s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden www.vaclib.org www.909shot.com http://www.vacinfo.org/ http://www.vran.org/ http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htm http://www.moorbows.com/ RE: Please list ONE reason why you don't vaccinate Heath isn't attained from a vaccine, pill, bottle, etc. True health comes from a healthy immune system, which comes from within. How can ANYONE think that injecting multitudes of toxins, chemicals, foreign DNA, etc. into a baby, or anyone for that matter, will lead to health... it just boggles my mind! Kay -----Original Message----- would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't vaccinate in MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 My #1 reason is because I used to and my son was harmed. I learned the hard way that vaccines cause damage. Okay, I have to put a #2: because once I began researching, I found that diseases declined before vaccines came into the picture. I realized it was a scam. I don't take kindly to being sold a bill of goods. Winnie Please list ONE reason why you don't vaccinate Vaccinations > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up > and someone posted back > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate > so that we're not caught off > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep > deprived, rattle brained mother of two > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts > of why I don't vaccinate - I've done > my research and it's my decision. > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE > reason that they don't > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article > to back it up..... > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, > but I don't really have the info > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > Thanks > in MD > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been > preservatives in vaccines for the last > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 There are multitudes of reasons why I don't vaccinate my two kids.If I have to list just one: I developed what they are calling " benign " MS two months after a second Measles shot to attend college in 1990. My Mother also has MS. My husband has multiple allergies and eczema. I knew that we as a couple were bringing some immune system conditions together when we decided to have children and I did not want to stress their immune systems more by having them vaccinated. le le Marra, DC Panther Chiropractic, LLC 4950 Penn Hwy Export, PA 15632 724-387-1014 > > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone posted back > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that we're not caught off > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle brained mother of two > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I don't vaccinate - I've done > my research and it's my decision. > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it up..... > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't really have the info > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > Thanks > in MD > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in vaccines for the last > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 There are many reasons for us. We vaccinated the first year until I found out the ingredients of the vaccines and how that hurts the immune system. I was horrified to say the least. My daughter was damaged from vaccines having chronic meningitis and daily migraines and kidney issues,(she's fine now) but it cost me ten years of my life quality, loss of income (every spare penny went to medical/holistic expenses), stress, guilt, etc. If I were a new parent and were just looking into the possibility of vaccinating my number one reason would be that it's morally wrong to inject toxins into the body against someone's will. Our body is a gift from God and while we do have free will and can destroy it if we want, we are advised in the Bible to not defile our body and by extension, that of our children at least that's the way I interpret it and God's laws are higher than man's and always work to our benefit. I don't know how this generation of children will be able to forgive their parents for poisoning and damaging them. Internet was in its infancy 16 years ago and there were very limited books on the subject but now, especially with all the media goings-on, there is no more excuse for not knowing or not investigating. My friend was studying to be a naturopath and learned about vaccines. She told me and we both never vaxed again. I try and tell all new/expecting parents to just go to Google and type in vaccine ingredients. That's it! No pressure. Anyone with a brain can see it's morally and physically wrong. With all our " freedom " of choice I find it horrible that parents and doctors are put in a position to make decisions like this. Vaccines shouldn't even exist, let alone be used as threatening tools and made mandatory for travel. Sharon Hoehner www.sharethecause.com/detoxqueen > > I wrote about the attack at my ds's one year well baby check up and someone posted back > that maybe we should type up all the reasons we don't vaccinate so that we're not caught off > guard at the dr.'s office like I was. I'm a busy, sleep deprived, rattle brained mother of two > toddlers - i can't think on the fly of all the stats and facts of why I don't vaccinate - I've done > my research and it's my decision. > But, just for arguments sake - would everyone post back ONE reason that they don't > vaccinate and if possible give a statistic or reference article to back it up..... > I know I have read a ton of material - hard copy and on line, but I don't really have the info > at my fingertips - maybe some of you do?? > > Thanks > in MD > > for example, my ped suggested that there haven't been preservatives in vaccines for the last > 3 years - where is the info saying that they are still being put in? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 > > After my kids suffered seizures,having an autistic child,and reading countless of things there is that gut feeling not to do it....I was always told GO WITH YOUR GUT feeling,so that is why we won't. I don't feel right about it. >> > I second the " go with your gut " feeling. I think too many people don't listen to their own intuition. A perfect example of that is McCarthy's story about her son. She had that twinge that told her she shouldn't do it, but when she questioned her ped, he made her feel stupid for even asking, so she went with the vax. Her son ended up having seizures, and became autistic because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Great post idea, and tough to decide the main reason.  I think this would have to be my #1 reason: " Heath isn't attained from a vaccine, pill, bottle, etc. True health comes from a healthy immune system, which comes from within. "  Following my intuition is the second, which really encompasses everything else I have learned, believe, and/or feel about vaccinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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