Re: Diabetes and MMR vaccine

[Guest guest]

I was just reading a post on a forum from a woman who's second child was

just diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes. Her first was dx'd at age 1 and has an

insulin pump now (age 8). Her dd was just diagnosed last week, she's 5 and

starting kindergarten (I'd be willing to bet she was recently vaxed for

school).

The mother said there is no family history and that her dr said that type 1

doesn't really have a known cause, and if it did they might be able to find

a cure. (not vaccinating would certainly help eliminate the possibility for

many children!)

I just sent her links to Sheri's website and another about the relationship

between diabetes and vaccines. I'm anticipating my post will go over like a

lead balloon there, but I had to say something!

A couple of years ago, a repair man that came to our house had a 3 and 5

year old with Type 1 Diabetes. I told him about the vaccine link, too. He

just looked at me like I'd lost my mind. :|

Childhood diseases are self-limiting. Problems caused by vaccines are often

life-long (including diabetes, asthma, ADHD, autism, etc.)

Kay

-----Original Message-----

Read the package insert! -

http://users.adelphia.net/~cdc/Vaccines.htm#MMR

The package insert for this vaccine states that it may cause Insulin

Dependent Diabetes Mellitus or Type 1 Diabetes. Your doctor may tell

you " Sure it might, but the risks are so low. " Look at the unbelievable

rise in the number of children diagnosed with this incurable disease.

:-(

I stopped vaxxing in 1999 and have never looked back. The vaccines

scare me a lot more than the diseases.

[Guest guest]

<<The mother said there is no family history and that her dr said that

type 1

doesn't really have a known cause, and if it did they might be able to

find

a cure. (not vaccinating would certainly help eliminate the possibility

for

many children!)>>

We have no family history either. :-(

I'm very unpopular with the Diabetes crowds because I mention the

vaccine link often. I did a poll on one of my lists to see what ages

their children were dx'd, most of them were 5-7. :-(

When people ask me if I really believe that my daughter's vaccines

caused her Diabetes, I respond " I can't prove that they did, but no one

can prove to me that they didn't. " A confirming factor for me was that

4 yrs after she was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes, she was diagnosed

with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, another autoimmune disease. :-( Her

endocrinologist told me that they know that the antibodies that attack

and kill the pancreas are the same ones that attack and kill the

thyroid. When he told me that I nearly threw up. :-( Not all kids

with Type 1 develop Hashimoto's though, so I don't understand how that

works.

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Thalea, born 06/24/07.

MC - 4/20/08

Read Thalea's birth story here: http://www.jessicas-haven.com/baby.htm

Vaccine free since 1999.

[Guest guest]

It's not like it's a far-fetched idea (vaccines contributing to diabetes).

For it to be listed on the MMR package insert as a possible adverse effect,

it MUST have been linked at one time or another.

The woman commented that her family was going on a march soon to raise money

to help find a cure. As with cancer fund-raisers, they need to concentrate

on the CAUSES instead of pretending to want to find a cure. Of course it

can't be made public that vaccines have to do with any of it otherwise the

medical industry's house of cards will start to topple.

So sad that unsuspecting families like yours, , have to find out the

hard way what damage vaccines do. You'll never know how many children

you've spared the same fate by spreading the word.

Kay

-----Original Message-----

We have no family history either. :-(

I'm very unpopular with the Diabetes crowds because I mention the

vaccine link often. I did a poll on one of my lists to see what ages

their children were dx'd, most of them were 5-7. :-(

When people ask me if I really believe that my daughter's vaccines

caused her Diabetes, I respond " I can't prove that they did, but no one

can prove to me that they didn't. " A confirming factor for me was that

4 yrs after she was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes, she was diagnosed

with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, another autoimmune disease. :-( Her

endocrinologist told me that they know that the antibodies that attack

and kill the pancreas are the same ones that attack and kill the

thyroid. When he told me that I nearly threw up. :-( Not all kids

with Type 1 develop Hashimoto's though, so I don't understand how that

works.

[Guest guest]

<<It's not like it's a far-fetched idea (vaccines contributing to

diabetes).

For it to be listed on the MMR package insert as a possible adverse

effect,

it MUST have been linked at one time or another. >>

Yes, but so many people believe " it will never happen to my family. "

:-(

<<The woman commented that her family was going on a march soon to raise

money

to help find a cure. As with cancer fund-raisers, they need to

concentrate

on the CAUSES instead of pretending to want to find a cure. Of course it

can't be made public that vaccines have to do with any of it otherwise

the

medical industry's house of cards will start to topple.>>

I'm working on a rant that I'm going to put on my website about JDRF and

the like. I see little reason to support this organization. Yes, the

fund research to help improve the insulin pumps, meters, etc. BUT to

believe they are working toward a CURE is a flat out lie! They receive

a good deal of money from pharmaceutical companies. Diabetes is a HUGE

money maker for pharmaceutical companies, so why on earth would they let

anyone find a cure?? Most of the money that the JDRF raises goes back

to the pharmaceutical companies for improvements on the insulin pumps,

meters, etc. :-( Why bother. Why don't the pharmaceutical companies

just pay for their own research instead of laundering their money

through a non-profit. My other beef with JDRF is that they will not

support local summer camps (unless they were grandfathered in - they

used to do this) for children with Type 1 diabetes so that they can

better learn how to take care of themselves and know that they aren't

alone.

<<So sad that unsuspecting families like yours, , have to find

out the

hard way what damage vaccines do. You'll never know how many children

you've spared the same fate by spreading the word.>>

I can only hope. :-(

In answer to your question in another post - I was working for a local

non-profit that provides fun and education summer camps for kids with

Type 1 Diabetes. The organization was started in the 70's, at that time

there were about 60 kids that attended the day camp each summer. Type 1

Diabetes was not as prevalent then as now, but still there were that

many kids already. I would love to be able to go back and talk to those

parents and ask them when their child was dx'd, what vaccines they had,

if there was any family history, etc. When Brittany was first dx'd I'd

found a website with the history of the disease. I want to say that the

first time a doctor tried to treat it was in the early 1900's (I could

be wrong). At that time chance of survival was not good, most people

struck with it died a slow painful death within weeks. The first

treatment the doctors tried was starving the patients. It kept them

alive a little longer. :-( At the time it was called Fasting Disease,

because the body consumes itself trying desparately to find the sugar to

use. I need to look that up again, been years since I read it.

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Thalea, born 06/24/07.

MC - 4/20/08

Read Thalea's birth story here: http://www.jessicas-haven.com/baby.htm

Vaccine free since 1999.

[Guest guest]

**Yes, but so many people believe " it will never happen to my family. " **

So true.

**I'm working on a rant that I'm going to put on my website about JDRF and

the like. My other beef with JDRF is that they will not support local

summer camps (unless they were grandfathered in - they used to do this) for

children with Type 1 diabetes so that they can better learn how to take care

of themselves and know that they aren't alone.**

Not unlike the cancer industry's lies. Unbelievable that the JDRF doesn't

support local summer camps for children! The pHARMa companies have soiled

everything with their greed.

**When Brittany was first dx'd I'd found a website with the history of the

disease.

I need to look that up again, been years since I read it.**

I found this today: http://www.med.umich.edu/Brehm/about/historyd.htm

Kay

[Guest guest]

My second child, a boy, was diagnosed type 1 at age 23 months. He's never

been vaxxed, nor have any of my children.

~ & Co.

http://www.PazRana.com/

http://www.MoonPye.org/

[Guest guest]

Winnie, I wish I could point my finger at some *thing* or some *time* that

would have caused my son's diabetes.. but at the time of diagnosis, he'd

never had cow's milk. He was EXCLUSIVELY breastfed, never even had pumped

milk in a bottle, not even once. I was soooo pissed when we got the

diagnosis, I kept saying, " This isn't supposed to happen to children that

are breastfed and not vaxxed. " but it did happen to mine...

~ & Co.

http://www.PazRana.com/

http://www.MoonPye.org/

I've also heard of connections to cow's milk and diabetes. Does anyone have

info on that?

Winnie

[Guest guest]

On another note, I did suspect that my boy had been exposed to actual

measles... I haven't gotten his titers done yet but I do plan to.. I

wonder if that's connected at all.

oh, and p.s. I don't drink much milk either, so he really wasn't

getting much second hand from my breastmilk either.. I might have

about a cup a week or less. I do eat organic yogurt sometimes too.

~

>

> Winnie, I wish I could point my finger at some *thing* or some

*time* that

> would have caused my son's diabetes.. but at the time of diagnosis,

he'd

> never had cow's milk. He was EXCLUSIVELY breastfed, never even had

pumped

> milk in a bottle, not even once. I was soooo pissed when we got the

> diagnosis, I kept saying, " This isn't supposed to happen to

children that

> are breastfed and not vaxxed. " but it did happen to mine...

>

>

>

> ~ & Co.

> http://www.PazRana.com/

> http://www.MoonPye.org/

>

> I've also heard of connections to cow's milk and diabetes. Does

anyone have

> info on that?

>

> Winnie

>

[Guest guest]

But were you?

>

> My second child, a boy, was diagnosed type 1 at age 23 months. He's

never

> been vaxxed, nor have any of my children.

>

>

>

> ~ & Co.

> http://www.PazRana.com/

> http://www.MoonPye.org/

>

[Guest guest]

Sue , I don't think so. He was very watched over and guarded while at the

hospital. I'm not sure they'd have much of a chance of it. I do plan on

getting his records from the hospital, but seriously, the time I was in

having him the nurses were scared to death to do anything wrong because I

mentioned the word " lawyer " and the doc I had is very cooperative with my

wishes. She's the same doc that is my kids' doctor now and is fine with me

not vaxxing.

~ & Co.

http://www.PazRana.com/

http://www.MoonPye.org/