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No..I have no proof of anything I'm about to say... but here is my

observation of my experience with vaxing versus not vaxing:

My son is now 10 years old and was always a very fussy baby with lots

of health issues that seemed to occur after vax time. He had lots of

episodes of high fever and had so many problems with enlarged

tonsils, we finally had to have them removed. Imagine a 4-year-old

going through surgery? It was terrible! He was also an incredibly

fussy baby, but looking back I realize it was always worse AFTER vax

time. (I have a diary from that time, thankfully, as I was tracking

something else in my life and just happened to mention my son's

progress in his life as well...including vaxing. I mentioned vaxing

in my diary because it was always so difficult for me to go through

because my son would become so upset that I would get upset and cry

along with him!)

I finally stopped vaxing him after the tonsillectomy and he hasn't

had a shot since.

Today, I have a totally non-vaxed 6-week-old daughter. Wow..what a

difference! Yes...could be personality difference and could just be

a healthier child. But this experience is completely different than

my son. She can be a challenge like most babies, but we don't have

what I call the " mysterious fussiness " that cannot be understood,

like my son did. I sometimes wonder if the fussiness blamed on colic

can be due to vaxing. Just wondering.

Anyway...we have experienced a lot of pressure from docs about our

choice, but we are standing our ground and have found a vax-friendly

clinic, thankfully.

To those out there planning to not vax their babies, stay true to

yourself. Don't let docs scare you into it. They are just doing

there job and at the end of the day, this is your child and your

choice.

Take care, everyone.

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Interesting oberservations, that I can agree with! My first three were

fully vaxed up through age 3, my last is 100% vax free. At first I

kept telling myself that it was just because babies are different, but

I was finally willing to admit that I had harmed my first three before

I knew better. My third showed the most obvious signs of a reaction

(if you actually paid attention to it) and had delayed speech. My

husband still doesn't want to admit that she was delayed but my first

two, apparently handled the vaccines better, where speaking clearly by

2 and I still have moments with my third that I have no idea what she

is saying. As we have focused on health on nutrition she has steadly

improved and I am hoping that she will excel in school despite my

ignorance in her first year of life. She also had bad eczema, and when

she got molluscum contagiousum she had it the very worst of the three.

I am actually grateful I was on the path to health when she got them

because we basically let them run their course and after she had

cleared them from her system her overall health improved! It is hard

to acknowledge the differences sometimes, but I use this to my

advantage when helping educate others! I cannot have a perfect past,

but, I control my future!

Marci

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Your third probably had more vaccines, or combinations--maybe different

manufacturers. My husband had to have a Hep B shot last year and was given a new

kind. He had a horrible reaction to it and was out of work for about six weeks.

I can't imagine how a newborn could handle it.

Good for you to address this with your own common sense rather than depending on

the docs who caused the problem.

Winnie

Re: My vaxed son compared to nonvaxed daughter...

Vaccinations

> Interesting oberservations, that I can agree with! My first

> three were

> fully vaxed up through age 3, my last is 100% vax free. At

> first I

> kept telling myself that it was just because babies are

> different, but

> I was finally willing to admit that I had harmed my first three

> before

> I knew better. My third showed the most obvious signs of a

> reaction

> (if you actually paid attention to it) and had delayed speech.

> My

> husband still doesn't want to admit that she was delayed but my

> first

> two, apparently handled the vaccines better, where speaking

> clearly by

> 2 and I still have moments with my third that I have no idea

> what she

> is saying. As we have focused on health on nutrition she has

> steadly

> improved and I am hoping that she will excel in school despite

> my

> ignorance in her first year of life. She also had bad eczema,

> and when

> she got molluscum contagiousum she had it the very worst of the

> three.

> I am actually grateful I was on the path to health when she got

> them

> because we basically let them run their course and after she had

> cleared them from her system her overall health improved! It

> is hard

> to acknowledge the differences sometimes, but I use this to my

> advantage when helping educate others! I cannot have a perfect

> past,

> but, I control my future!

> Marci

>

>

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I wanted to add a bit of my story here as I think it also is along the same

lines. My daughter is soon to be 16 months old and she is by far the healthiest

kid I've ever met in my life. She has only gotten sick one time at 11 months old

and it was gone faster than you blink. And do date she has only had one diaper

rash as well that cooresponded with the one time she was under the weather. She

doesn't get the sniffles, fevers, ect. She is also the most happy calm

baby/child you can imagine. She has never been overly fussy or anything

resembling colicky(SP?) and I think a lot of her terrific health and personality

has to do with the fact she is completely unvaccinated from day 1.

Additionally, my daughters father is learning disabled. When he was a child his

mother gave him every vaccine recommended and he had such awful reactions to

them (104 fevers, siezures,ect) that the doctor started giving him half doses of

the vaccines at a time. The doctors say his learning disability and other mental

imparements are not related to the vaccines. His mother says that he stayed in

utero too long as an infant due to his 10 lb size (12 hours of intense labor)

and that caused his mental defects (she thinks he was compressed too much). But

I was also a 10 lb baby and I was in utero during intense labor for 22 hours

according to my mother and have none of the same effects. Not to mention they

did not start noticing mental imparements in him until after he had recieved

almost half of his vaccines and they progressivly got worse. My daughter is

smart as a whip and has never been poisened by those same vaccines that her

father had such horrible

reactions to. So if you ask me the vaccines caused the mental imparements he

currently has.

So definetely like you said if you feel strongly about not vaxing your kids

please stick to your guns. I have had so much pressure from doctors and my

family to vaccinate her and I am SOOOO glad I have not caved. I believe I made

the right choice.

My vaxed son compared to nonvaxed daughter...

No..I have no proof of anything I'm about to say... but here is my

observation of my experience with vaxing versus not vaxing:

My son is now 10 years old and was always a very fussy baby with lots

of health issues that seemed to occur after vax time. He had lots of

episodes of high fever and had so many problems with enlarged

tonsils, we finally had to have them removed. Imagine a 4-year-old

going through surgery? It was terrible! He was also an incredibly

fussy baby, but looking back I realize it was always worse AFTER vax

time. (I have a diary from that time, thankfully, as I was tracking

something else in my life and just happened to mention my son's

progress in his life as well...including vaxing. I mentioned vaxing

in my diary because it was always so difficult for me to go through

because my son would become so upset that I would get upset and cry

along with him!)

I finally stopped vaxing him after the tonsillectomy and he hasn't

had a shot since.

Today, I have a totally non-vaxed 6-week-old daughter. Wow..what a

difference! Yes...could be personality difference and could just be

a healthier child. But this experience is completely different than

my son. She can be a challenge like most babies, but we don't have

what I call the " mysterious fussiness " that cannot be understood,

like my son did. I sometimes wonder if the fussiness blamed on colic

can be due to vaxing. Just wondering.

Anyway...we have experienced a lot of pressure from docs about our

choice, but we are standing our ground and have found a vax-friendly

clinic, thankfully.

To those out there planning to not vax their babies, stay true to

yourself. Don't let docs scare you into it. They are just doing

there job and at the end of the day, this is your child and your

choice.

Take care, everyone.

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Hard to say about vaxing and colic. My first baby, vaxed, was a dream, but this

was 1990 pre-Hep B and a lot of other vaxes. It wasn't until his 15 month MMR

that his health turned from great to horrendous.

My second was breech, a couple of weeks early, and always very uncomfortable and

cranky (now he's my most easy to get along with--love him). I swear they must

have given him the Hep B (1992) but the records show otherwise. Plus, I asked

for it but was refused it because they didn't offer it here yet.

My next two were great babies--no vaxes. I wonder what it was really like in the

past with colic. Just like with certain diseases they play up as worse than

death, was colic really common say 100 years ago?

Winnie

My vaxed son compared to nonvaxed daughter...

Vaccinations

> No..I have no proof of anything I'm about to say... but here is

> my

> observation of my experience with vaxing versus not vaxing:

>

> My son is now 10 years old and was always a very fussy baby with

> lots

> of health issues that seemed to occur after vax time. He had

> lots of

> episodes of high fever and had so many problems with enlarged

> tonsils, we finally had to have them removed. Imagine a 4-year-

> old

> going through surgery? It was terrible! He was also an

> incredibly

> fussy baby, but looking back I realize it was always worse AFTER

> vax

> time. (I have a diary from that time, thankfully, as I was

> tracking

> something else in my life and just happened to mention my son's

> progress in his life as well...including vaxing. I mentioned

> vaxing

> in my diary because it was always so difficult for me to go

> through

> because my son would become so upset that I would get upset and

> cry

> along with him!)

>

> I finally stopped vaxing him after the tonsillectomy and he

> hasn't

> had a shot since.

>

> Today, I have a totally non-vaxed 6-week-old daughter.

> Wow..what a

> difference! Yes...could be personality difference and could

> just be

> a healthier child. But this experience is completely different

> than

> my son. She can be a challenge like most babies, but we don't

> have

> what I call the " mysterious fussiness " that cannot be

> understood,

> like my son did. I sometimes wonder if the fussiness blamed on

> colic

> can be due to vaxing. Just wondering.

>

> Anyway...we have experienced a lot of pressure from docs about

> our

> choice, but we are standing our ground and have found a vax-

> friendly

> clinic, thankfully.

>

> To those out there planning to not vax their babies, stay true

> to

> yourself. Don't let docs scare you into it. They are just

> doing

> there job and at the end of the day, this is your child and your

> choice.

>

> Take care, everyone.

>

>

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I believe you've made the right choice, too. You parents are amazing who will

stand strong against this without ever having been a parent before. It's such

new territory that most of us are scared to trust our common sense.

Winnie

My vaxed son compared to nonvaxed daughter...

>

>

> No..I have no proof of anything I'm about to say... but here is

> my

> observation of my experience with vaxing versus not vaxing:

>

> My son is now 10 years old and was always a very fussy baby with

> lots

> of health issues that seemed to occur after vax time. He had

> lots of

> episodes of high fever and had so many problems with enlarged

> tonsils, we finally had to have them removed. Imagine a 4-year-

> old

> going through surgery? It was terrible! He was also an

> incredibly

> fussy baby, but looking back I realize it was always worse AFTER

> vax

> time. (I have a diary from that time, thankfully, as I was

> tracking

> something else in my life and just happened to mention my son's

> progress in his life as well...including vaxing. I mentioned

> vaxing

> in my diary because it was always so difficult for me to go

> through

> because my son would become so upset that I would get upset and

> cry

> along with him!)

>

> I finally stopped vaxing him after the tonsillectomy and he

> hasn't

> had a shot since.

>

> Today, I have a totally non-vaxed 6-week-old daughter.

> Wow..what a

> difference! Yes...could be personality difference and could

> just be

> a healthier child. But this experience is completely different

> than

> my son. She can be a challenge like most babies, but we don't

> have

> what I call the " mysterious fussiness " that cannot be

> understood,

> like my son did. I sometimes wonder if the fussiness blamed on

> colic

> can be due to vaxing. Just wondering.

>

> Anyway...we have experienced a lot of pressure from docs about

> our

> choice, but we are standing our ground and have found a vax-

> friendly

> clinic, thankfully.

>

> To those out there planning to not vax their babies, stay true

> to

> yourself. Don't let docs scare you into it. They are just

> doing

> there job and at the end of the day, this is your child and your

> choice.

>

> Take care, everyone.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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