Re: 15 mo check up - debating to go

[Guest guest]

I dont know what to tell ya really.? We dont do the whole " well-child " visit

thing.? The name well child visit itself is just ridiculous to me.? Do you feel

there is something he is behind on cognitively/socially? Your mommy instinct is

better then any doc.? I personally would never want a doc accessing my kids

development because the NORM has such a WIDE range in real life, but a very

small range medically.? They LOOK for problems.

15 mo check up - debating to go

Our son, , has his 15 mo check this monday....we have held off on all

vaccinations....

Even though our Ped doesn't really say much, they always give us the " we have to

inform you

because we are medical professionals " speech on how vaccinations are mercury

free, safe,

wonderful...etc..........we always listen and politely say, " we are holding off

for now " ....is there

another way to cut them to the chase so we don't even have to listen to the

speech?.....Do

they really have to inform us, or is that just what they say to hopefully change

our minds? The

only thing that came to mind was saying " as a parent, we are not vaccinating

currently, so we

can stop this discussion now " ....or something like that....but I don't want to

be rude or have

an uncomfortable visit.

Reason I want to go to this appt Dr. is supposed to check his cognitive/social

developmental.....

Any helpful dialogue will be appreciated.

Thanks so much,

, (15 mo), Ben (dh)

[Guest guest]

I wondered about this myself. I'm actually meeting w/a holistic doctor to see

about

switching. I plan to be up front with my position, let him give his speech (I

assume he'll

have one), and then see if we can be done with the discussion. I figure - if I

ever should

change my mind, I'd definitely let them know! Otherwise, they aren't going to

say anything

to change my mind as things currently stand in the world of vaccinations. I

would so

LOVE not to have to hear it every visit (not that there are many since I cut out

wbc) and

LOVE not to have them try to make me feel like a bad mom.

>

> Our son, , has his 15 mo check this monday....we have held off on all

vaccinations....

>

> Even though our Ped doesn't really say much, they always give us the " we have

to inform

you

> because we are medical professionals " speech on how vaccinations are mercury

free,

safe,

> wonderful...etc..........we always listen and politely say, " we are holding

off for now " ....is

there

> another way to cut them to the chase so we don't even have to listen to the

speech?

......Do

> they really have to inform us, or is that just what they say to hopefully

change our

minds? The

> only thing that came to mind was saying " as a parent, we are not vaccinating

currently,

so we

> can stop this discussion now " ....or something like that....but I don't want to

be rude or

have

> an uncomfortable visit.

>

> Reason I want to go to this appt Dr. is supposed to check his cognitive/social

> developmental.....

>

> Any helpful dialogue will be appreciated.

>

> Thanks so much,

>

> , (15 mo), Ben (dh)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi!

Quite honestly, I have yet to find a pediatrician that is familiar

with milestone achievements (they may act like they are though). A

recent study concluded that 80% of doctors do not know where a baby

should be. Neither of my son's doctors were aware of when they

should be doing what. I was very concerned about both of my kids and

the doctors were not. It turns out that my Mommy instinct was right

on because they were both delayed. I would avoid the docs like the

plague right now (to avoid signing the vaccine refusal form). Google

milestone achievements (www.babycenter.com also) and you will find a

lot of info. That is what I do by month (I have a 16 mo. old). If

you are concerned about development your doctor wouldn't be the one

to handle it anyway...it is usually a group like Easter Seals (for

intervention).

>

> Our son, , has his 15 mo check this monday....we have held off

on all vaccinations....

>

> Even though our Ped doesn't really say much, they always give us

the " we have to inform you

> because we are medical professionals " speech on how vaccinations

are mercury free, safe,

> wonderful...etc..........we always listen and politely say, " we are

holding off for now " ....is there

> another way to cut them to the chase so we don't even have to

listen to the speech?.....Do

> they really have to inform us, or is that just what they say to

hopefully change our minds? The

> only thing that came to mind was saying " as a parent, we are not

vaccinating currently, so we

> can stop this discussion now " ....or something like that....but I

don't want to be rude or have

> an uncomfortable visit.

>

> Reason I want to go to this appt Dr. is supposed to check his

cognitive/social

> developmental.....

>

> Any helpful dialogue will be appreciated.

>

> Thanks so much,

>

> , (15 mo), Ben (dh)

>

[Guest guest]

At 04:58 PM 7/10/2008, you wrote:

>Our son, , has his 15 mo check this monday....we have held off

>on all vaccinations....

>

>Even though our Ped doesn't really say much, they always give us the

> " we have to inform you

>because we are medical professionals " speech on how vaccinations

>are mercury free, safe,

>wonderful...etc..........we always listen and politely say, " we are

>holding off for now " ....is there

>another way to cut them to the chase so we don't even have to listen

>to the speech?.....Do

>they really have to inform us, or is that just what they say to

>hopefully change our minds? The

>only thing that came to mind was saying " as a parent, we are not

>vaccinating currently, so we

>can stop this discussion now " ....or something like that....but I

>don't want to be rude or have

>an uncomfortable visit.

>

>Reason I want to go to this appt Dr. is supposed to check his

>cognitive/social

>developmental.....

Hi

Do you think the ped really has a clue what his cognitive/social

development should be?

Do you have concerns?

Sheri

listowner

[Guest guest]

I've been going back and forth about this as well.

 

On the 'go' side, our ped has been open to non-vaxing, read " Children With

Starving Brains " and has agreed to work with me if I want nystatin or something

that must be rX. I do want to maintain a good relationship with her, and I think

doing that may help her help other children in her practice.

 

On the other hand, it's $85 down the drain for her to tell me my son is healthy.

I think I'll wait for the 18 month check-up.

From: Mo <mohere@...>

Subject: 15 mo check up - debating to go

Vaccinations

Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:58 PM

Our son, , has his 15 mo check this monday....we have held off on all

vaccinations. ...

Even though our Ped doesn't really say much, they always give us the " we have to

inform you

because we are medical professionals " speech on how vaccinations are mercury

free, safe,

wonderful... etc...... ....we always listen and politely say, " we are holding

off for now " ....is there

another way to cut them to the chase so we don't even have to listen to the

speech?..... Do

they really have to inform us, or is that just what they say to hopefully change

our minds? The

only thing that came to mind was saying " as a parent, we are not vaccinating

currently, so we

can stop this discussion now " ....or something like that....but I don't want to

be rude or have

an uncomfortable visit.

Reason I want to go to this appt Dr. is supposed to check his cognitive/social

developmental. ....

Any helpful dialogue will be appreciated.

Thanks so much,

, (15 mo), Ben (dh)

[Guest guest]

Best off to check with an experienced parent whom you trust to tell you if your

child seems normal. I bet it won't cost you a co-pay, either!

To get them off your case, I would just say (and have): " no offense, but you're

wasting your time trying to tell me something I likely have researched more than

you have. Now can we please get this child checked? I have other things to do. "

Winnie

Re: 15 mo check up - debating to go

Vaccinations

> At 04:58 PM 7/10/2008, you wrote:

> >Our son, , has his 15 mo check this monday....we have held

> off

> >on all vaccinations....

> >

> >Even though our Ped doesn't really say much, they always give

> us the

> > " we have to inform you

> >because we are medical professionals " speech on how

> vaccinations

> >are mercury free, safe,

> >wonderful...etc..........we always listen and politely say, " we

> are

> >holding off for now " ....is there

> >another way to cut them to the chase so we don't even have to

> listen

> >to the speech?.....Do

> >they really have to inform us, or is that just what they say to

> >hopefully change our minds? The

> >only thing that came to mind was saying " as a parent, we are

> not

> >vaccinating currently, so we

> >can stop this discussion now " ....or something like that....but

> I

> >don't want to be rude or have

> >an uncomfortable visit.

> >

> >Reason I want to go to this appt Dr. is supposed to check his

> >cognitive/social

> >developmental.....

>

>

> Hi

> Do you think the ped really has a clue what his cognitive/social

> development should be?

>

> Do you have concerns?

> Sheri

>

> listowner

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son has been to the ped. once since he was 15 months old and the

Dr. didn't even get to give him a full check over - DS wasn't having

anyone he didn't know near him, he is now 28 months. My DD is 4

months and her 3 month WBC was her last. I don't need to waste $$ or

time having a quack tell me my kids are healthy, growing and meeting

milestones. I have Babycenter.com's chart for milstones saved to my

PC so I can always check that over. My kids are usually right on or

have a few things slightly above. I don't plan on going back unless

there is something wrong I can't handle. Why bother if you are not

vaccinating?

Put the $$ you would spend on the visit either in the child's savings

account or use it to buy yummy organic groceries.

-Kristi

> Our son, , has his 15 mo check this monday....we have held off

on all vaccinations. ...

<SNIP>

> Reason I want to go to this appt Dr. is supposed to check his

cognitive/social developmental...

[Guest guest]

You are a smart mama!

Winnie

Re: 15 mo check up - debating to go

Vaccinations

> My son has been to the ped. once since he was 15 months old and

> the

> Dr. didn't even get to give him a full check over - DS wasn't

> having

> anyone he didn't know near him, he is now 28 months. My DD is 4

> months and her 3 month WBC was her last. I don't need to waste

> $$ or

> time having a quack tell me my kids are healthy, growing and

> meeting

> milestones. I have Babycenter.com's chart for milstones saved

> to my

> PC so I can always check that over. My kids are usually right

> on or

> have a few things slightly above. I don't plan on going back

> unless

> there is something wrong I can't handle. Why bother if you are

> not

> vaccinating?

> Put the $$ you would spend on the visit either in the child's

> savings

> account or use it to buy yummy organic groceries.

>

> -Kristi

>

>

>

> > Our son, , has his 15 mo check this monday....we have held

> off

> on all vaccinations. ...

>

> > Reason I want to go to this appt Dr. is supposed to check his

> cognitive/social developmental...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I work in Early Intervention and I can tell you, most pediatricians

have no clue about child development and they defer to us in many

cases. I would never go to a doctor just to check on development - not

worth the time - unless they are a specialized developmental

pediatrician, of which there tend to be very few.

Melinda C. in Mass.