RE: just came back from her 9mos check-up

June 25, 2008

Sure they can. And they are. It's good that you are finding out right off that

they are not interested in caring for your child.

First, though, I would make sure the doctor knew the nurse practitioner is

telling patients this. The doc might not agree.

Winnie

just came back from her 9mos check-up

Vaccinations

> at my daughter's office visit, we didnt see her doctor but a nurse

> practitioner which was a waste of my time, i told her that i

> wanted to

> dely my daughter's shots til she was older...i then told her

> about my

> concerns..toxins, animal tissues, chemicals in the vacc. well, she

> really didnt have much argument except that the office would no longer

> see my kids if they are not vacc., im thinking in the back of my mind

> she cant refuse care if i have an exemption which in my state a

> 'religious exemption' is acceptable....so that right there just

> bothers me, and when i asked her in her profession what does she think

> about the dangers of vaccinations, she only pointed out the positive

> things such as, they prevent diseases, and that there is no solid

> proof of a link between vacc. and autism....anyways i was really

> irritated by my conversation with her....they cant refuse care could

> they if i were to brought in an exemption could they??

>

June 25, 2008

I am tired of hearing the no solid link between vaccines and autism argument.

What about the fact mercury, aluminium formaldehyde, foreighn dna are all toxic.

Not only toxic, but some of the most dangerous substances on earth. And they

get injected into the body, bypassing all our natural defences. I couldn't care

less about the no solid link bit. Autism is almost identical to mercury

poisoning, thats good enough for me anyway. And we have been advised against

eating tuna with mercury, or exposing ourselves to it if a thermometer breaks.

We have been advised against using aluminium cooking utensils. We have been

advised against buying clothes with formaldehyde on them. And a doctor can't

see that. It just makes me so angry. And we are supposed to trust these

people.

As far as not going to well baby checks goes, thats my answer. Doctors opinions

are not worth a piece of sh@#. Plenty of other people out there I can show my

healthy unvaxed baby too. Sorry, for the rant. But if I went for a well baby

check and was faced with this response, that would be my answer. Why bother

going to an unneccessary appointment to get myself distressed. I know that in

this case it was a nurse, but doctors are no different. The GP I go to doesn't

try and convince me to vax, or anything. Living in Australia, well baby checks

are not pushed so much anyway. But doctors are for sick people and they are not

God. So I don't need their approval.

If I sound angry in this post, it is purely my response to the no solid link

statement. It just helps to illustrate the reason I dont do well baby checks.

Fieldman

just came back from her 9mos check-up

at my daughter's office visit, we didnt see her doctor but a nurse

practitioner which was a waste of my time, i told her that i wanted to

dely my daughter's shots til she was older...i then told her about my

concerns..toxins, animal tissues, chemicals in the vacc. well, she

really didnt have much argument except that the office would no longer

see my kids if they are not vacc., im thinking in the back of my mind

she cant refuse care if i have an exemption which in my state a

'religious exemption' is acceptable....so that right there just

bothers me, and when i asked her in her profession what does she think

about the dangers of vaccinations, she only pointed out the positive

things such as, they prevent diseases, and that there is no solid

proof of a link between vacc. and autism....anyways i was really

irritated by my conversation with her....they cant refuse care could

they if i were to brought in an exemption could they??

June 25, 2008

I would agree with Winnie. We had a nurse practitioner (who is much

like yours...good for nothing) tell us the same thing. We then

waited to talk with the Dr himslef and just wanted us to sign the AAP

wavier but was also okay with an amended version.

I would either call the Dr or make an appointment to see him to talk

with him to know if that is his thinking or not.

andrea from Kansas

>

> Sure they can. And they are. It's good that you are finding out

right off that they are not interested in caring for your child.

>

> First, though, I would make sure the doctor knew the nurse

practitioner is telling patients this. The doc might not agree.

>

> Winnie

>

> just came back from her 9mos check-up

> Vaccinations

>

> > at my daughter's office visit, we didnt see her doctor but a nurse

> > practitioner which was a waste of my time, i told her that i

> > wanted to

> > dely my daughter's shots til she was older...i then told her

> > about my

> > concerns..toxins, animal tissues, chemicals in the vacc. well, she

> > really didnt have much argument except that the office would no

longer

> > see my kids if they are not vacc., im thinking in the back of my

mind

> > she cant refuse care if i have an exemption which in my state a

> > 'religious exemption' is acceptable....so that right there just

> > bothers me, and when i asked her in her profession what does she

think

> > about the dangers of vaccinations, she only pointed out the

positive

> > things such as, they prevent diseases, and that there is no solid

> > proof of a link between vacc. and autism....anyways i was really

> > irritated by my conversation with her....they cant refuse care

could

> > they if i were to brought in an exemption could they??

> >

>

June 25, 2008

I ran into that when we moved to a new state and I was looking for a new ped.

One I called asked if my son was up to date on vax. I said no, he has had none.

They said they can't see him. I said that is discrimination. They said they are

a private practice so they can not let a unvax kid in. I was mad. But then I am

over it now. I just trash-talk that practice. HA!!!

MElissa

June 25, 2008

I totally agree, . And the medical industry has that tunnel vision

where all they see is a bunch of crackpot parents worried about the

autism/vaccine link.

While that is HUGE and discussed so much in the media lately, they're

totally ignoring the rest of what us " crackpots " are saying... the link

between vaccines and the number of chronically ill children today, i.e.

those kids with asthma, allergies, cancer, behavior issues, diabetes, etc.

etc.

Now we know the environment plays a huge part in that equation (tainted air,

food, and water), but there's no way vaccines can NOT also be an enormous

piece in that puzzle. But the medical industry refuses to acknowledge that.

That's what burns me up. When A + B = C and they don't even attempt to get

to the bottom of it, THAT is criminal!

One major step would be to do a study comparing the short and long-term

health of nonvaxed and vaxed children. How simple would that be?? But

there's no way the medical industry would go for that because they KNOW what

the findings would be! It would totally undermine all they stand for, and

they're not about to open that can of worms in front of the public!

Kay

Re: just came back from her 9mos check-up

I am tired of hearing the no solid link between vaccines and autism

argument. What about the fact mercury, aluminium formaldehyde, foreighn dna

are all toxic. Not only toxic, but some of the most dangerous substances

on earth. And they get injected into the body, bypassing all our natural

defences. I couldn't care less about the no solid link bit. Autism is

almost identical to mercury poisoning, thats good enough for me anyway. And

we have been advised against eating tuna with mercury, or exposing ourselves

to it if a thermometer breaks. We have been advised against using aluminium

cooking utensils. We have been advised against buying clothes with

formaldehyde on them. And a doctor can't see that. It just makes me so

angry. And we are supposed to trust these people.

Fieldman

June 25, 2008

THANKS ALL, i feel like i am going on the right track where everyone i

talk to seems to be at amazed but really has nothing to say bc why

would you question the very people who is there to help you, luckily

my fiancee is very supportive of the whole thing. it just amazes me

how they can refuse care when you dont want the very thing that keeps

kids coming in to see them, vacc.

i am going to make an appt for me and the doctor and she where she

stands but on the other hand i feel like if one mind thinks like that

whats the chance of another thinking outside of the box, but i will

keep everyone updated

June 25, 2008

Tell them that you'll sign it if everyone in their practice does too

(medical professionals are not required to be vaccinated for everything

they are pushing on the kids). It is now VERY obvious that doctors are

no longer immune because the CDC is now recommending " boosters " for

teens and adults! So, be a smart ass and dish it right back. Or you

could be polite and point out that the AAP is leaving it up to doctors

to accept a revised version of the form from the parents.

>

> at my daughter's office visit, we didnt see her doctor but a nurse

> practitioner which was a waste of my time, i told her that i wanted to

> dely my daughter's shots til she was older...i then told her about my