Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 " Almost a decade after it was declared officially eliminated " " Increasing numbers of uppermiddle-class parents are opting out of the controversial measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine because of fears over a link to autism. " It was? Upper middle class? Oh, really - I don't think I consider myself upper middle class The usual lies about measles pre-vaccination Sheri UK writing about US.............. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4100287.ece Measles cases rise as parents snub MMR jab because of autism fears June 10, 2008 Ayres in Los Angeles Almost a decade after it was declared officially eliminated, measles is making a comeback in the United States. Increasing numbers of uppermiddle-class parents are opting out of the controversial measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine because of fears over a link to autism. Although several studies have shown that no link exists between the two, parents panicked by the rumours have exercised their right to prevent their children being vaccinated. It is thought that 2 to 3 per cent of American schoolchildren are under-vaccinated under a non-medical waiver meaning that their parents are opting out on principle. As a direct result, there have been 72 confirmed cases of measles in ten states this year, more than double the rate last year. Seven more cases were reported in Illinois last week. US health authorities fear that unless confidence in the MMR vaccine is restored the disease could make a devastating return, causing hundreds of deaths and costing billions of dollars. “Of the people infected by the measles virus, only one had documentation of prior vaccination,” according to America’s Centres for Disease Control and Prevention. “Many of the cases among US children occurred in children whose parents claimed exemption from vaccination due to religious or personal beliefs.” Before the MMR vaccine was introduced in 1963, America had hundreds of thousands of measles cases every year, with 48,000 hospitalisations, 400 to 500 deaths and about 1,000 patients left with disabilities. An American-style MMR jab was introduced in Britain in 1988. British health authorities have also seen a reluctance in parents to vaccinate their children because of autism fears.Much to the dismay of pro-vaccine campaigners, both of America’s presidential nominees have contributed to the alarm. In January, McCain told the mother of an autistic son that “there’s strong evidence that indicates that \ has a lot to do with a preservative in vaccines”; Barack Obama said in April that “the science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it”. In 1998 Wakefield published a paper in the journal The Lancet suggesting that exposure to the measles virus in vaccines could be a contributing factor in autism. Others have speculated that thimerosal a mercury-laced preservative present in some vaccines could be responsible for autism diagnoses. Disease of the past? 4 Days people are contagious before rash shows, and after it disappears 6-20% of measles patients will get an ear infection, diarrhoea or pneumonia 1 in every 1,000 people with measles develops inflammation of the brain 450 measles-associated deaths were reported in the US each year before the vaccine’s introduction Source: US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 “Of the people infected by the measles virus, only one had documentation of prior vaccination,†according to America’s Centres for Disease Control and Prevention. “Many of the cases among US children occurred in children whose parents claimed exemption from vaccination due to religious or personal beliefs.†I find this statement particularly loaded, especially since it is delivered in quotes. Its like when Clinton said " I was never alone in the oval office with ML. "  Cause you can't be alone when you are with someone else.... Of the people infected only one had documentation.. How many of our parents saved our vax records for us to see as adults? I know I was vaxed, but I may not have documentation. loaded and meant to mislead. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Perhaps I am being naive, but was measles really *that* bad? This says 450 people died of measles each year - did they die of measles or did they die after seeking medical treatment for measles? Is this a case of fear-mongering as in chicken pox today? I know there have been measles outbreaks lately, but has anyone had any complications? I am sure it would be all over the news if anyone had been hurt/killed, but then again, I don't really watch the news anymore! > > Disease of the past? > > 4 Days people are contagious before rash shows, and after it disappears > > 6-20% of measles patients will get an ear infection, diarrhoea or pneumonia > > 1 in every 1,000 people with measles develops inflammation of the brain > > 450 measles-associated deaths were reported in > the US each year before the vaccine's introduction > > Source: US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > Vaccines - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm > Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Does anyone really think they would admit to measles occurring in those who were vaccinated? From: http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/ CDC’s Pink Book measles chapter, shows how infants are now more at risk from measles outbreaks in post-mass vaccination societies: During the 1989–1991 measles resurgence, incidence rates for infants were more than twice as high as those in any other age group. The mothers of many infants who developed measles were young, and their measles immunity was most often due to vaccination rather than infection with wild virus. As a result, a smaller amount of antibody was transferred across the placenta to the fetus, compared with antibody transfer from mothers who had higher antibody titers resulting from wild-virus infection. The lower quantity of antibody resulted in immunity that waned more rapidly, making infants susceptible at a younger age than in the past. Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 At 08:08 PM 6/10/2008, you wrote: >Perhaps I am being naive, but was measles really *that* bad? This >says 450 people died of measles each year - did they die of measles >or did they die after seeking medical treatment for measles? Is >this a case of fear-mongering as in chicken pox today? NO MEASLES was not that bad - it is ludicrous. My mom (83 yo) was just talking about that again the other day - she also was a Peds nurse. She finds it insane that people are afraid of measles. People who died were people with other health issues, malnutrition or poor living conditions, for the most part. There wasn't extensive intervention in those days as there is now, but it could have been partly due to treatment. And if they had only used Vitamin A, that would have helped immensely And of course homeopathy >I know there have been measles outbreaks lately, but has anyone had >any complications? I am sure it would be all over the news if >anyone had been hurt/killed, but then again, I don't really watch >the news anymore! You are exactly right - it would have been all over the news. No one died. Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers & Homeopathy Online/email courses http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm or http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I agree, I'm puzzled over the fear of both measles AND mumps! On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > At 08:08 PM 6/10/2008, you wrote: > NO MEASLES was not that bad - it is ludicrous. My mom (83 yo) was > just talking about that again the other day - she also was a Peds > nurse. She finds it insane that people are afraid of measles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 In the comments of the Arthur rally/march article, a person wrote about how bad mumps is - how all our grandfathers and great- grandfathers were sterile because of the mumps! Um, well, how the heck did WE get here?? The idea of the possibility of sterility has the world in a twist, I guess! What people don't seem to understand is if they would just allow the mumps during childhood, like it's supposed to happen, there would be no risk for sterility - even in/after puberty I believe the risk is minimal to say the least. So now men AND women are sterile because they eat crap food and aspartame and they don't can't figure out what's makeing them sterile!! > > I agree, I'm puzzled over the fear of both measles AND mumps! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Hey, maybe it's the MMR! Why wouldn't the vaccine cause it as well as the disease itself? Anyway, I've heard that it's usually a one-sided sterility (although who actually checked,and how??). Winnie Re: Measles cases rise as parents snub MMR jab because of autism fears Vaccinations > In the comments of the Arthur rally/march article, a > person > wrote about how bad mumps is - how all our grandfathers and > great- > grandfathers were sterile because of the mumps! Um, well, how > the > heck did WE get here?? > > The idea of the possibility of sterility has the world in a > twist, I > guess! What people don't seem to understand is if they would > just > allow the mumps during childhood, like it's supposed to happen, > there > would be no risk for sterility - even in/after puberty I believe > the > risk is minimal to say the least. > > So now men AND women are sterile because they eat crap food and > aspartame and they don't can't figure out what's makeing them > sterile!! > > > > > > > > I agree, I'm puzzled over the fear of both measles AND mumps! > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 you mentioned vit a for measles...i just want to be prepared in case my son gets it. & nbsp; in what form should he take vit a and how much? thanks, carrie & gt;Perhaps I am being naive, but was measles really *that* bad? This & gt;says 450 people died of measles each year - did they die of measles & gt;or did they die after seeking medical treatment for measles? Is & gt;this a case of fear-mongering as in chicken pox today? NO MEASLES was not that bad - it is ludicrous. My mom (83 yo) was just talking about that again the other day - she also was a Peds nurse. She finds it insane that people are afraid of measles. People who died were people with other health issues, malnutrition or poor living conditions, for the most part. There wasn't extensive intervention in those days as there is now, but it could have been partly due to treatment. And if they had only used Vitamin A, that would have helped immensely And of course homeopathy & gt;I know there have been measles outbreaks lately, but has anyone had & gt;any complications? I am sure it would be all over the news if & gt;anyone had been hurt/killed, but then again, I don't really watch & gt;the news anymore! You are exactly right - it would have been all over the news. No one died. Sheri ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & amp; Choice Network, Nevada City CA & amp; Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.nccn. net/~wwithin/ vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers & amp; Homeopathy Online/email courses http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccinec lass.htm or http://www.wellwith in1.com/homeo. htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Vit A deficiency is related to measles COMPLICATIONS. The complications are a damned sight rarer than the vaccine side effects! Ghetto children or children in extremely deprived circumstances like refugee camps or some Western orphanages, might get complications. However, apart from a bit of a cold, the Koplic spots and rash, you probably won't know your kids are sick. My mother could hardly wait to send us back to school, we were so noisy & boisterous - in rude health, she called it. If children do feel a bit under the weather, some nice fresh fruit and/or veg juices are preferable to eating solid meals. Here are a few dietary sources of vit A. I'd go for raw milk products rather than homogenised & pasteurised. Krill oil may be a better option than halibut & cod liver oils unless you have a supply that is certified free of mercury. Meats - organically produced, pasture-fed. no vaccines etc etc. We don't use shellfish at all as they seem to be like Nature's vacuum cleaners. Maracuja Dairy Products: Butter 0.75 Cheese - Cheddar 0.325 Milk 0.05 Cream 0.031 Cheese - Cottage 0.044 Dietary Oils: Halibut Liver Oil 60 Cod Liver Oil 18 Eggs: Yolks 0.4 Fish: Haddock Herring 0.045 Mackerel 0.045 Salmon 0.09 Meats: Liver - Calf 39.8 Liver - Chicken 12.2 Liver - Lamb 22.6 Liver - Ox 0.045 Seafood: Salmon 0.035 Oysters 0.075 Join the Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign! Re: Re: Measles cases rise as parents snub MMR jab because of autism fears you mentioned vit a for measles...i just want to be prepared in case my son gets it. & nbsp; in what form should he take vit a and how much? thanks, carrie & gt;Perhaps I am being naive, but was measles really *that* bad? This & gt;says 450 people died of measles each year - did they die of measles & gt;or did they die after seeking medical treatment for measles? Is & gt;this a case of fear-mongering as in chicken pox today? NO MEASLES was not that bad - it is ludicrous. My mom (83 yo) was just talking about that again the other day - she also was a Peds nurse. She finds it insane that people are afraid of measles. People who died were people with other health issues, malnutrition or poor living conditions, for the most part. There wasn't extensive intervention in those days as there is now, but it could have been partly due to treatment. And if they had only used Vitamin A, that would have helped immensely And of course homeopathy & gt;I know there have been measles outbreaks lately, but has anyone had & gt;any complications? I am sure it would be all over the news if & gt;anyone had been hurt/killed, but then again, I don't really watch & gt;the news anymore! You are exactly right - it would have been all over the news. No one died. Sheri ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & amp; Choice Network, Nevada City CA & amp; Wales UK Vaccines - http://www.nccn. net/~wwithin/ vaccine.htm or http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm Vaccine Dangers & amp; Homeopathy Online/email courses http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccinec lass.htm or http://www.wellwith in1.com/homeo. htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I give my son cod liver oil every day, along with raw milk, but I also make him pureed chicken liver once or twice a week. It is a great source of vitamin A, iron, vitamin C, and some calcium. Just sautee along with some chopped onions in butter, add sea salt, and puree...he absolutely loves it and so do I. > & gt;Perhaps I am being naive, but was measles really *that* bad? This > & gt;says 450 people died of measles each year - did they die of measles > & gt;or did they die after seeking medical treatment for measles? Is > & gt;this a case of fear-mongering as in chicken pox today? > > NO MEASLES was not that bad - it is ludicrous. My mom (83 yo) was > just talking about that again the other day - she also was a Peds > nurse. She finds it insane that people are afraid of measles. > > People who died were people with other health issues, malnutrition or > poor living conditions, for the most part. > There wasn't extensive intervention in those days as there is now, > but it could have been partly due to treatment. > > And if they had only used Vitamin A, that would have helped immensely > And of course homeopathy > > & gt;I know there have been measles outbreaks lately, but has anyone had > & gt;any complications? I am sure it would be all over the news if > & gt;anyone had been hurt/killed, but then again, I don't really watch > & gt;the news anymore! > > You are exactly right - it would have been all over the news. > No one died. > Sheri > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & amp; Choice Network, Nevada City CA & amp; Wales UK > Vaccines - http://www.nccn. net/~wwithin/ vaccine.htm or > http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm > Vaccine Dangers & amp; Homeopathy Online/email courses > http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccinec lass.htm or > http://www.wellwith in1.com/homeo. htm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 vida, i got chic. livers frm my org. farm that i want to give mikaelah...do you cook them or process them raw.. email me offlist so we dont get anyone flustered :-) ari Arianna Mojica- (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston ~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health ~~~A truth¢s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden www.vaclib.org www.909shot.com http://www.vacinfo.org/ http://www.vran.org/ http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htm http://www.moorbows.com/ Re: Measles cases rise as parents snub MMR jab because of autism fears I give my son cod liver oil every day, along with raw milk, but I also make him pureed chicken liver once or twice a week. It is a great source of vitamin A, iron, vitamin C, and some calcium. Just sautee along with some chopped onions in butter, add sea salt, and puree...he absolutely loves it and so do I. > & gt;Perhaps I am being naive, but was measles really *that* bad? This > & gt;says 450 people died of measles each year - did they die of measles > & gt;or did they die after seeking medical treatment for measles? Is > & gt;this a case of fear-mongering as in chicken pox today? > > NO MEASLES was not that bad - it is ludicrous. My mom (83 yo) was > just talking about that again the other day - she also was a Peds > nurse. She finds it insane that people are afraid of measles. > > People who died were people with other health issues, malnutrition or > poor living conditions, for the most part. > There wasn't extensive intervention in those days as there is now, > but it could have been partly due to treatment. > > And if they had only used Vitamin A, that would have helped immensely > And of course homeopathy > > & gt;I know there have been measles outbreaks lately, but has anyone had > & gt;any complications? I am sure it would be all over the news if > & gt;anyone had been hurt/killed, but then again, I don't really watch > & gt;the news anymore! > > You are exactly right - it would have been all over the news. > No one died. > Sheri > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- > Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & amp; Choice Network, Nevada City CA & amp; Wales UK > Vaccines - http://www.nccn. net/~wwithin/ vaccine.htm or > http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm > Vaccine Dangers & amp; Homeopathy Online/email courses > http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccinec lass.htm or > http://www.wellwith in1.com/homeo. htm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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