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Lynn,

I have no words of wisdom other than to say that I am so sorry. We have

problems with our yard, too and I have no idea what to do. You are always so

supportive of others so I just wanted you to know that I am thinking about you

all and hope that someday there will be answers!

>

> I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips I

think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to crash

in his little car.

>

> I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran

son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real

wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school

bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my

Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot

water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen

to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use

to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was

pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the

toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on this

sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

>

> To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are

now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell

out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and

say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look

how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or

baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider

mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I

went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through

packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was

scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck

to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and

even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really know that

what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks

of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the

scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders.

>

> That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would

mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can

not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year,

but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out

late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items

to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty.

Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

>

> I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up

and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

>

> In Light Lynn

> p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared. I

just needed to vent.

>

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Lynn Appreciate the venting. I keep granules on my yard, not to expensive. Just

make sure that after hosing down with water the ground is good and dry before

pets or children play.

Lynn I still think you have sulfur deficiency too. I know you said that your

allergic to sulfur, but organic sulfur is different. If you have enough sulfur

those bugs won't touch you, in my opinion. Hope you had a good nights rest and

the beast leave you alone.

>

> I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips I

think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to crash

in his little car.

>

> I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran

son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real

wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school

bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my

Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot

water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen

to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use

to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was

pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the

toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on this

sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

>

> To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are

now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell

out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and

say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look

how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or

baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider

mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I

went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through

packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was

scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck

to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and

even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really know that

what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks

of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the

scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders.

>

> That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would

mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can

not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year,

but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out

late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items

to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty.

Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

>

> I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up

and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

>

> In Light Lynn

> p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared. I

just needed to vent.

>

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I know the feeling Lynn, it's so frustrating to feel like things have just

started to get better and then you have a situation like this. My day yesterday

was very bad since it's raining here. I literally wanted to itch my skin off at

times. Had to take a benadryl to sleep well.

Financially this is an extra expense for us too. Our electric bill went up 200

dollars last month. We are struggling to pay a bills anyway so this is not good.

My mom did have good luck calling her home owners insurance. They told her they

would pay for anything she had to throw away in order to get rid of the bugs

(mattresses, clothing, etc) but would not pay for any extermination. I was

really shocked by this, going to call my insurance company today. But there's

one problem, will the bugs just reinfest the new things?

I am in panic mode lately because we've been building our house for 3 years now

and will be moving in in a couple of months. The last thing I want to do is drag

them there! Best to you and your family Lynn, hope today is better.

Angie

>

> I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips I

think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to crash

in his little car.

>

> I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran

son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real

wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school

bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my

Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot

water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen

to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use

to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was

pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the

toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on this

sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

>

> To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are

now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell

out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and

say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look

how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or

baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider

mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I

went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through

packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was

scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck

to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and

even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really know that

what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks

of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the

scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders.

>

> That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would

mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can

not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year,

but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out

late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items

to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty.

Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

>

> I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up

and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

>

> In Light Lynn

> p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared. I

just needed to vent.

>

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I'm glad you did vent Lynn. It helps me too. Remember when I kept talking about the spider invasion in my house and how I kept talking about it? I think those damn spiders brought the mites back. (Maybe) Things had been calm until then and now, bam, back again. I'm just going to put a large sheet of plastic over that whole sliding door with duct tape and never go out that door again. Seems to be point of entry. Yeah, spider traps kill the spiders, but it doesn't necessarily kill the mites on the spiders.

Uggg....Oh No.

I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to crash in his little car.I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish. To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders. That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members. Well off my soap box.In Light Lynnp.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared. I just needed to vent.

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Angie What a wonderful idea about the home insurance for payment, thanks for

bringing this to our attention:) Hope your new home is free of this beast. Is

your whole family infested infected?

> >

> > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips

I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to

crash in his little car.

> >

> > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran

son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real

wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school

bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my

Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot

water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen

to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use

to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was

pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the

toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on this

sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> >

> > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are

now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell

out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and

say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look

how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or

baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider

mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I

went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through

packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was

scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck

to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and

even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really know that

what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks

of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the

scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders.

> >

> > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would

mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can

not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year,

but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out

late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items

to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty.

Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

> >

> > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up

and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> >

> > In Light Lynn

> > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared.

I just needed to vent.

> >

>

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Nope just me, the adult female. I have 2 girls 3 and 1 and neither of them seem

to be getting bit but hard telling...lets hope not!

> > >

> > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little

clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced

to crash in his little car.

> > >

> > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old

gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like

real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little

school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on

my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with

hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > >

> > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They

are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the

hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband

and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and

look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are

aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are

spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > >

> > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that

would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I

can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last

year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and

found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy

the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have

activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

> > >

> > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get

up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> > >

> > > In Light Lynn

> > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

> > >

> >

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Angie I hope not too. Have you considered why you seem to be more attractive?

This so often being the case I think perhaps environment is not the issue as

much, we possibly being the host or environment. What have you tried so far or

considered for treatment?

> > > >

> > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little

clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced

to crash in his little car.

> > > >

> > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old

gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like

real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little

school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on

my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with

hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > > >

> > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They

are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the

hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband

and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and

look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are

aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are

spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > > >

> > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that

would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I

can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last

year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and

found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy

the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have

activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

> > > >

> > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get

up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> > > >

> > > > In Light Lynn

> > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Lynn how about flower of sulfur, tried taking that yet? The soil grade sulfur

would work in the yard, and eco exempt granules.

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/eco-exempt-granules-p-84.html

http://www.biconet.com/botanicals/exemptG.html

http://www.biconet.com/botanicals/hpw.html

> > >

> > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little

clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced

to crash in his little car.

> > >

> > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old

gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like

real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little

school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on

my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with

hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > >

> > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They

are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the

hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband

and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and

look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are

aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are

spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > >

> > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that

would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I

can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last

year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and

found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy

the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have

activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

> > >

> > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get

up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> > >

> > > In Light Lynn

> > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

> > >

> >

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I'm sitting here with my mouth open. Where are the preditors that eat these mites? Is there something in the outside environment that has killed those preditors? Nature provides a balance. Where there is a large infestation of one creature, the preditory creature is attracted. You must find out who those preditors are and why they are not appearing. Jumping on a human is one thing, but why the plastic toys? The mites are totally out of control!

From: Lynn <torpedolynn@...>Subject: Uggg....Oh No.bird mites Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 6:13 AM

I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to crash in his little car.I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish. To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would

really know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders. That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that would only make

me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members. Well off my soap box.In Light Lynnp.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared. I just needed to vent.

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That's for sure and molds and fungus! Where are the predators for those? I am not sure if all preditors have preditors. Do they? What about lions? :) They have diseases too I guess, so maybe those are the preditors.

Uggg....Oh No.bird mites Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 6:13 AM

I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to crash in his little car.I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish. To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders. That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members. Well off my soap box.In Light Lynnp.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared. I just needed to vent.

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Homeopathic sulfur is flower of sulfur, MSM is organic sulfur. MSM is not the

same as homeopathic sulphur although I'm sure there are similarites between

them. I would take both if it were me.

Homeopathic sulphur is made from a dilution of 'flowers of sulphur' ie, the pure

mineral sulphur. MSM is a 'food' form of sulphur present in plants etc.

Where I'm coming from with the 'suppression' is that it was thought that the

large (non-homeopathic) doses of substances could sometimes suppress instead of

stimulate.

However this was generally seen with large doses of compounds that would be

toxic in non-homeopathic doses, eg. mercury, arsenic.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little

clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced

to crash in his little car.

> > > > >

> > > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old

gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like

real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little

school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on

my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with

hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > > > >

> > > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs.

They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray

the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my

husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see

them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they

are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they

are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > > > >

> > > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that

would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I

can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last

year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and

found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy

the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have

activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

> > > > >

> > > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never

get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course

that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like

any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Light Lynn

> > > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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I am pretty overwhelmed on what to try so far, financially there's not much we

can do. I can afford borax and amonnia. I add them both to the wash, soak for

1/2-1 hr and then wash. I use windex and orange oil on everything whenever i

have time (which isn't more than once a week with young children!) I also wash

my floors with borax and orange lysol. I have tried the eucalyptus and neem oil

on my skin at night but they still seem to bite me when they're bad. I'm

cautious to try anything else right now due to nursing my one year old, who i'm

in the process of weaning. Recently started using epsom salts which help a great

deal.

My moms house, my house and my sisters were all sprayed with pymethrin, never

helped at all.

For our cats we've used revolution, ivermectin, and mite oil from wolfcreek,

nothing has worked for them either.

I will order the MSM as soon as I wean my daughter, asked my doctor if she knew

if it was safe and she had no idea. Do most of you take internally and

externally?

Also for those of you using DE, what are you doing with it and is it working?

I got SO frustrated living out of bags that i put all my clothes back in the

dressers. I couldn't take it anymore, i'd rather be bit than go through the

stress of that again. Not fun looking for clothes for half an hr when we have to

be out the door at 7am. So far no huge difference in getting bit.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little

clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced

to crash in his little car.

> > > > >

> > > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old

gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like

real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little

school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on

my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with

hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > > > >

> > > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs.

They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray

the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my

husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see

them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they

are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they

are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > > > >

> > > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that

would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I

can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last

year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and

found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy

the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have

activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

> > > > >

> > > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never

get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course

that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like

any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Light Lynn

> > > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Angie Washing with lye soap will not matter nursing, I would think, and cheap

enough. Might try in the wash to. Spray the bedding with wintergreen alcohol and

vinegar, safe enough to. Use bag balm mixed with flower of sulfur on face and

neck before bed, also cheap enough. A bottle of MMS is only $20.00 using this as

a spray should be safe enough. Yes I take both flower of sulfur and MSM

internally.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those

little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being

forced to crash in his little car.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr.

old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks

like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a

little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place

it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket

with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs.

They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray

the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my

husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see

them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they

are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they

are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess

that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel

doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better

than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food

stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to

slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and

privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid

find.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never

get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course

that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like

any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Light Lynn

> > > > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Angie for your ears if like most of us will itch or do itch I use MSM drops or

white vinegar and rubbing alcohol 50/50. For the mouth I did oil pulls, my

favorite still coconut oil. For the nose I did vicks inhaler, now I would use

himalayan salt in netti pot.

http://www.health911.com/swimmer's-ear

http://www.natural-salt-lamps.com/netipots.html

http://www.kornax.com/Merchant2/MSM_Drops.htm

http://oilpulling.com/

I never could get a dr to even consider me sane:( I would use bag balm or

cedarcide for ears still .Bag balm is cheap most pet stores and some wal mart

have this, also tractor supply feed mills ect.

> >

> > To much DE will dry them out, still need to keep this thing in check. My

opinion of this beast is a variety of things, infection and infestation. The

infestation I believe to be springtails, the infection lyme or a co infection.

> >

> > Use lye soap in the shower for hair to. Ace hardware sells lye. Use fels

naptha in wash with borax. Both these soaps have to be made into liquid.

> >

> > Heres how the fels naptha shave a 1/3 bar add 6 cups water bring to rolling

boil, let cook for several minutes. Remove from burner add 1/4 cup borax stir,

add 6 cups cool water. This needs to be put in a tub of some sort it will need

stirred with a whisk the first 24 hrs and before use can be used right away.

This soap will kill mites and fungus. Cost per load very cheap. Also can be used

to was pets.

> >

> > Liquid lye. Take bar of lye soap shave or cut 1/4 bar. Put in blender, or

very warm water and melt. Makes gallon or so. Put in dish soap bottle ect and

use for shampoo and soap, always nothing else.

> > http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/category_s/2.htm

> >

> > For the first few weeks you could add flower of sulfur to liquid lye soap

for body and hair. First mix with olive oil to fuse. I put peppermint leaves in

olive oil and let sit then use this oil optional. The pharmacist can order this

or buy online.

> > http://www.pennherb.com/cgi-bin/herbstore.cgi/indexoils

> >

> > You might try and dust the edges of walls crack and crevices with DE but

trust me I know how hard that stuff is to get back up. Try spraying the carpet

furniture with orange guard, or cedarcide, or both. I like to mix the two. I buy

horse and stable from cedacide this will make 25 gallons of strong mixture for

$70.00 delivered. Ace hardware also sells orange guard, also fels naptha.

> > http://www.orangeguard.com/

> > http://www.cedarcidestore.com/catalog/item/3571008/3185649.htm

> > http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/product.aspx?iid=1036

> >

> > Bathe in MMS and I also took thin internally, up to you. Very cheap and

invaluable resource for myself and animals.

> > http://jimhumble.biz/

> >

> > Take sulfur internally and pets. Take flower of sulfur internally to, I have

not given the flower to pets just MSM. I put MSM on pets moist food and DE. Put

DE on all pets beds to.

> > http://www.arthritis-msm-supplements.com/msm_for_horses_dmso.htm

> >

> >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those

little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being

forced to crash in his little car.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr.

old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks

like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a

little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place

it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket

with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs.

They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray

the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my

husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see

them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they

are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they

are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess

that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel

doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better

than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food

stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to

slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and

privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid

find.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and

never get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of

course that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out.

Just like any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with

hardly any support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family

members. Well off my soap box.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Light Lynn

> > > > > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the

bug scared. I just needed to vent.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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I see you do have pets. The mite solution from wolf creek did not work? How long

have you given this to the pets? Good to know ask for a refund she

guaranteed it?

> > >

> > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little

clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced

to crash in his little car.

> > >

> > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old

gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like

real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little

school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on

my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with

hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > >

> > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They

are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the

hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband

and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and

look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are

aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are

spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > >

> > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that

would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I

can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last

year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and

found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy

the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have

activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

> > >

> > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get

up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> > >

> > > In Light Lynn

> > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

> > >

> >

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The only chemical I have found effective is bifen and cyonara.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those

little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being

forced to crash in his little car.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr.

old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks

like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a

little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place

it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket

with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs.

They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray

the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my

husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see

them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they

are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they

are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess

that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel

doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better

than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food

stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to

slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and

privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid

find.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never

get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course

that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like

any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Light Lynn

> > > > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Angie Also start some homemade enzyme cheap and safe and very helpful. I use

grapefruit peel and peppermint leaf, and lemon peel and peppermint leaf. Can be

used in drains to wash floors and clothes. You can by kleen free and other

enzyme very expensive compared.

http://www.o3enzyme.com/enzymeproduction.htm

http://www.o3enzyme.com/enzymeusage.htm

> > > >

> > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little

clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced

to crash in his little car.

> > > >

> > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old

gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like

real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little

school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on

my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with

hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > > >

> > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They

are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the

hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband

and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and

look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are

aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are

spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > > >

> > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that

would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I

can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last

year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and

found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy

the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have

activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

> > > >

> > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get

up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> > > >

> > > > In Light Lynn

> > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Lynn,

This is the place to vent. Sorry that happened. Just had a crying episode myself the environment is so bad. Plus in anger I cancelled my order for the diffuser. Hopefully they have already shipped it. If not I will just reorder. I dont want to end up with the wrong one so I will just stay with that one. Just another delay. Going to bed now.

Hugs

From: Lynn <torpedolynn@...>Subject: Uggg....Oh No.bird mites Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 2:13 AM

I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to crash in his little car.I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish. To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would

really know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders. That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that would only make

me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members. Well off my soap box.In Light Lynnp.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared. I just needed to vent.

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I'm sorry Lynn. What happened to make you feel you are booted? I know its

frustrating to nor get any response back.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those

little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being

forced to crash in his little car.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr.

old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks

like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a

little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place

it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket

with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs.

They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray

the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my

husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see

them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they

are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they

are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess

that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel

doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better

than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food

stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to

slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and

privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid

find.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and

never get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of

course that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out.

Just like any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with

hardly any support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family

members. Well off my soap box.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Light Lynn

> > > > > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the

bug scared. I just needed to vent.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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McRae -

I totally feel you. I'm so sick of ordering products on line period! I had an

order wig Vitacost that I placed last Tues, paid for 2-5 day shipping and still

hadn't received my order. I made them refund my money, but hopefully I still get

my order soon. I wanted to say just send me my friggin orange cleaner so I can

stop getting bit up! Lol! Ugh!

>

>

> From: Lynn <torpedolynn@...>

> Subject: Uggg....Oh No.

> bird mites

> Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 2:13 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips I

think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to crash

in his little car.

>

> I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran

son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real

wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school

bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my

Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot

water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen

to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use

to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was

pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the

toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on this

sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

>

> To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are

now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell

out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and

say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look

how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or

baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider

mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I

went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through

packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was

scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck

to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and

even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really know that

what you saw were legs and

> not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks of dead bugs now look

just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the scope. He said no I am

wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders.

>

> That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would

mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can

not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year,

but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out

late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items

to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty.

Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

>

> I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up

and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

>

> In Light Lynn

> p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared. I

just needed to vent.

>

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McRae I am not sure the diffuser will even make a big difference, if short on

money wait till some others try. I would like one because of prevention or as a

deterrent. Plus I like the smell of cedar and natural oils. The simplest things

have helped me more than some of the most expensive. Whatever I used nothing was

quick or a silver bullet. Agree with tessi ordering online can be a hassle and

frustrating when your being bitten.

> >

> >

> > From: Lynn <torpedolynn@>

> > Subject: Uggg....Oh No.

> > bird mites

> > Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 2:13 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips

I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to

crash in his little car.

> >

> > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran

son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real

wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school

bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my

Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot

water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen

to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use

to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was

pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the

toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on this

sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> >

> > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are

now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell

out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and

say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look

how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or

baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider

mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I

went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through

packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was

scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck

to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and

even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really know that

what you saw were legs and

> > not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks of dead bugs now look

just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the scope. He said no I am

wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders.

> >

> > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would

mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can

not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year,

but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out

late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items

to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty.

Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

> >

> > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up

and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that

would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any

disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

> >

> > In Light Lynn

> > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared.

I just needed to vent.

> >

>

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Lynn Tessi What about a post on Mr Commonsense? Have a link? I never post on his

forum.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those

little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being

forced to crash in his little car.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr.

old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks

like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a

little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place

it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket

with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs.

They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray

the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my

husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see

them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they

are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they

are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that

the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at

through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby

spiders.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess

that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel

doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better

than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food

stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to

slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and

privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid

find.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and

never get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of

course that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out.

Just like any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with

hardly any support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family

members. Well off my soap box.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Light Lynn

> > > > > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the

bug scared. I just needed to vent.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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I don't either Lynn.

Re: Uggg....Oh No.

Lynn Tessi What about a post on Mr Commonsense? Have a link? I never post on his forum.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced to crash in his little car.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr. old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch. Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs. They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really know that what you saw were legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks of dead bugs now look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the scope. He said no I am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members. Well off my soap box.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn> > > > > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug scared. I just needed to vent.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Hi Angie

you can afford theis & it works it take time , bit any thi coated n borax

reduces the bug.

Oil .like coocut oil in hot water also imobilzes a bug to so I combine the 2

with epsom also which deters bugs

1/2 cup borax

1/2 cup epsom

2 tbls cococnut oil

48 oz of water in a chapin fine misting sprayer

I sprayeevery thing & they stop , I do it daily if needs

The one on the skin are killed by a compress 2 times per day for 30 mins of

borax 1/2 cup per gallon on a towell held to affected area after a bath in daw?

1/4 cup & 1-2 cups borax , forthe face 2 tbls per gallon cause it is

sensitive . For privates & eyes ( close eyes while using betadine form drug

store ) wet, & apply betadine for 5 mins , then rinse & they are gone. It

is a miracle .

Here is the best a cheapest approach I ever saw posted , it works .I pasted it

below .

( it is a bug it will die , kiill it . Pray hard God will help , He is good.

Mites and farmer tricks

link

bird mites/message/10634

I don't know where you people are from, whether it be city, or too far north to

know this, but " mites " are nothing new, and there is nothing " foreign about

them.

I was raised, and still live in Louisiana, which is called, " semi-tropical. " I

was raised on a farm/ranch. There are so many different types of mites, that

bite, that I will not begin to try to list many; I will give a few examples.

Warm blooded animals get lice; plants get lice; they are not the same type of

lice. the " lice " that infest your turnip green patch, will not bite you because

it suddenly " got warmer " in the US. The mites and lice that infest your chicken

house, will not be satisfied with sucking on turnip greens; but they will crawl

all over a human and give you the " itch " for many days after you have gotten

rid of the mites. There are " redbugs, " picked up from walking through grass,

brush, or sometimes dirt. They will burrow under your skin and make you want to

take a wire brush and shed your won hide off. There are seed ticks that will

cover you from brushing against the wrong tree limb, or infest your living room

when you buy that " real " tree at Christmas. The " Mange " in dogs, or as we

humans dislike having to call it, " Scabies, " that will infest you and all your

pets. There are hog lice, chiken mites, Sarcopic mange, ring worm, ( & scores of

other funguses from cattle and horses and dogs), that humans can get. There is

the " creeping crud, " a fungus, that sometimes does not show to the naked eye for

months, but will make you claw until you bleed, usually starting at the

ankles and working up; it lives in the soil. While we back woods, country people

may call all these vermin and varmints funny names, and we may seem

stupid to some, we know these critters you are talking about; they were here in

the US long before you went overseas. It is just as possible that you caught it

from your Georgia tent mate when he returned from leave, as it is that you

caught it in Iraq, or some other " hot " place.

We have put a couple of cap fulls of pine oil or bleach in our bath water for

years; we have cleaned our houses with pine oil for hundreds of years. We have

dabbed pine oil, turpintine, and sometimes if desperate enough, coal oil, on

redbugs, (and various other critters that attached themselves to us), to kill

them for hundreds of years. We have coated ourselves in various kinds of fats,

mud, and paste to keep them off, and to kill them when they decided to live on

us anyway. We have bathed in baking soda, salt and epsoms salt to keep from

itching; smeared paste from mustard, baking soda and tobacco to help. We have

taken the " skin " from egg shells and pit on bad bites, to draw the " itch " out.

We have chewed on the sulphur ends of hard matches, and made a paste out

of " flowers of sulfur; " which bugs hate the smell of, and it keeps the bites

from getting infected. One of the bad things about itchy bites, it all that

scratching and hot, blooding flesh, attracts even more critters.

As for borax; you can buy " 20 Mule Team " borax powder; it's been around longer

than any of us. We wash with it, neutralize orors with it, remove stains with

it, etc. Most of all, down here, we have been rubbing it on our meat in our

smoke houses for ages; flies won't even light on it. we just wash it off when

we take it out to eat. I heard in the eighties, that they were " blowing "

recycled, chipped up, news papers into the walls of old historical homes to

insulate them. Guess what they were soaking the news paper in prior to drying

and chopping it up? That's right...Borax. Not only does it kill bugs, repel

bugs, repel rodents and prevent them from chewing and nesting in the paper

insulation, but it makes the paper fire retardent. You can make your on roach

and ant bait with it by mixing it with flour and sugar, or just corn syrup and

Borax. You can use it like carpet fresh, and you can wash your walls and floors

and counters with it; use it as a paste for scrubbing; just don't rinse it too

well, and you will see a lessening of itchy critters. And for people that want

their clothes clean, but do not like fragrance fumes, etc., it's the best for

your laundry.

If the varmints are eating your ankles up, mix some borax with your lotion or

vaseline; it will repel them and has antibiotic properties

God bless you ,

Bill

ps :

Summary of above post :

Borax$3.99

Mustard 2.00

skin of egg $1.99 haven't tried that one yet ..

coaltar shampoo 5.99

pinesol $4.00

bleach .69 ( take it easy on bleach it is acid & bad for the kidneys & liver &

lungs ,especially mixed with ammonia or ammoniun which it ammonia , the make s

clorine gas which destroys lung tissue & eyes...careful breathing it , it smells

like pineapples when mixed & does not smel toxic but will kill you )

sulphur $12.00 www.Americarx.com

baking soda $1.00 ( a bath n thei with 2 cups will make you think there is no

bigs for 12 hrs ...ahhhhhh )

tobacco $4.00

fats .01 off a steak

mud $.00

and make s paste

Pretty cheap ! And they work

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On Thu Oct 7th, 2010 10:30 PM EDT angie.kenney wrote:

>I am pretty overwhelmed on what to try so far, financially there's not much we

can do. I can afford borax and amonnia. I add them both to the wash, soak for

1/2-1 hr and then wash. I use windex and orange oil on everything whenever i

have time (which isn't more than once a week with young children!) I also wash

my floors with borax and orange lysol. I have tried the eucalyptus and neem oil

on my skin at night but they still seem to bite me when they're bad. I'm

cautious to try anything else right now due to nursing my one year old, who i'm

in the process of weaning. Recently started using epsom salts which help a great

deal.

>My moms house, my house and my sisters were all sprayed with pymethrin, never

helped at all.

>For our cats we've used revolution, ivermectin, and mite oil from wolfcreek,

nothing has worked for them either.

>I will order the MSM as soon as I wean my daughter, asked my doctor if she knew

if it was safe and she had no idea. Do most of you take internally and

externally?

>Also for those of you using DE, what are you doing with it and is it working?

>I got SO frustrated living out of bags that i put all my clothes back in the

dressers. I couldn't take it anymore, i'd rather be bit than go through the

stress of that again. Not fun looking for clothes for half an hr when we have to

be out the door at 7am. So far no huge difference in getting bit.

>

>

>> > > > >

>> > > > > I don't want to be a race car driver anymore. Oh...No... Those little

clips I think on Saturday night Live of the little toy rubber guy being forced

to crash in his little car.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > I finally went outside this evening to pick up toys that the 3 yr.

old gran son had left out on the lawn by a very heavy plastic bench that looks

like real wood. I had a bucket and filled it full of toys and hand carried a

little school bus that makes music and has figures that ride in the bus. I place

it on my Washer (daughter in-laws washer) and left it while I filled the bucket

with hot water and Orange plus and Dr. Bronners Pepperment soap. I went into the

kitchen to do something else and started itching. I usually do not itch.

Stinging; I use to have terrible stinging. Then my head had crawling. Under my

right arm was pink like I had been slaped. I go back into the laundry room to do

more on the toys and notice the bus is covered in tiny dots. As big as this i on

this sentence. Very tiny. Reddish.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > To my horrar they are all moving and pretty quick for little bugs.

They are now all over the washer. I put the bus in the utility sink and spray

the hell out of it with Orange Plus. I do the same to the washer. I grab my

husband and say see how tiny the bugs on me can be and why its so hard to see

them and look how fast they are. He gets a magnifier out and looks and says they

are aphids or baby spiders. They look like spiders. I tell him that means they

are spider mites. He disagrees. I get tape on a group when they were moving just

before I went spray crazy and they are able to get unstuck and its thick see

through packing tape. There was enough stuck to sit and get the scope out but it

was scary to transfer them into the living room to have a look. When wet and

stuck to tape they look like specks. We could only find two with some legs

showing and even then you had to have seen them moving before you would really

know that what you saw were

legs and not just guessing. I told the hubby that the specks of dead bugs now

look just like some of my tiny specks I look at through the scope. He said no I

am wroung and they are aphids and maybe baby spiders.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > That toy bus was absolutly crawling on every inch of it. I guess that

would mean my lawn and under my house could be really bad. Dang I feel doomed. I

can not afford money wise to keep fighting. I am way way way better than last

year, but still when it comes to money it sucks. I tried for food stamps and

found out late yesterday that we did not qualify. I still trying to slowly buy

the items to correct my bed infestation. This evening my legs and privates have

activaty. Low key but enough to make me nervous after the horrid find.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > I want to go outside and lay on the grass and just give up and never

get up and just scream and scream and scream till they lock me away. Of course

that would only make me stuck deeper into the mess with less ways out. Just like

any disease we are forced to go through it or live with it. But with hardly any

support. Talking about Dr.s mostly and than some unbelieving family members.

Well off my soap box.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > In Light Lynn

>> > > > > p.s. My evening has been very calm and pleasent in spite of the bug

scared. I just needed to vent.

>> > > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

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>

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Hi Lynn,

Yes I got the right one. Spoke with this morning has already been mailed. Received postal slip today for pickup tomorrow. She was very nice and will be sending me an extra bottle of oil to balance things out. Things worked out well. I think an attachment can be bought to alternate with burning crystals. I have to look into that further. I think it was displayed on the Gene site that Marie posted.

Bless You

From: Lynn <torpedolynn@...>Subject: Re: Uggg....Oh No.bird mites Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 2:27 PM

Oh McRaeI hope you get the right one. It is a product I am interested in. That and some Mythol crystal burning would be so much more simple. Dryer treatments. I am desperate to get away from spraying the bed with anything. I am so sick pass the eyebrows full of sleeping on a damp bed which probably has mold issues from all the spraying. I know when I press down on the plastic zippered pillow case covers I see spots of mold. I think once I solve the room issues the rest of the house will finally be free. I really think my room spills over into the living room. Especially sense my bedroom door in in direct contact to the living room. My house has no hall ways. Just rooms and doors to rooms. My dinning room has five entry ways to different rooms. I guess that makes my dinning room the hall way. lol. Was attacked badly last night in bed. Spent the morning praying and crying. Through the whole hour of my shower routine I cryed. Now sense

out of the shower I have not yet felt one thing. Dang bed. I hate that bed.Hugs back to you.In Light Lynn>> Lynn,>  > This is the place to vent. Sorry that happened. Just had a crying episode myself the environment is so bad. Plus in anger I cancelled my order for the diffuser. Hopefully they have already shipped it. If not I will just reorder. I dont want to end up with the wrong one so I will just stay with that one. Just another delay. Going to bed now.>  > Hugs

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