Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Thank you Lynn!! I appreciate this info very much. I was already giving them MSM capsules. They are eating eggs every morning now (with plenty of garlic - so glad they like both!) This is the first time in their lives that they have used shampoo that has had chemicals - I hate that! As soon as we get this semi under control we will switch back to the Tea Tree Oil shampoo that we were using. I have some peppermint bronners on hand - maybe we will give that a try too. Is the sea salt as good as epsom? That does sound like a better idea to me. I just freaked out so bad that I went from NO chemical anything to ordering and buying poisons... Just need to get them off of the kids and quick. Thank you very much Lynn - I'm praying for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Lynn I agree if giving the children MSM internally I would choose a different salt for bathing, you know my salt of choice:)Himalayan Crystal Salt http://products.mercola.com/himalayan-salt/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Is sea salt cheaper? I never really did a price comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Lynn If so that is cheaper then himalayan crystals. Still worth the extra, however when I was not working and so sick I could not afford hardly anything. Understand the money thing to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. NOT... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Light Lynn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 I read on the Himalayan crystals that you need 2.6 lbs. for an effective soak...How many baths would one pkg. have? I'm trying to see if it is something I could afford for all 7 of us. I just can't figure out how many baths it would make. I found a recipe for the dry detergent using fels naptha - do you think it would work as well? Has grated fels naptha, borax, and washing soda in it. I was only wondering because my blender is on its last leg - but if the liquid is better...I'll get a new one! I can't find washing soda anywhere...that is what I get for living in the country I guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. 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Guest guest Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Wow perhaps the sea salt, if there are 7 of you:) For eating I would still use the Himalayan crystals. Also to make sole, this has been wonderful for me. Great for gargle also with sore throat, or mouth wounds. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/sea_salt.htm The liquid laundry soap works better for me because I use cold water. Really for the laundry soap no blender is needed, or the lye liquid. It was a easier, and lazier way:) Fels Naptha Laumdry Soap Use a cheese grater and grate 1/3 cup fels naptha, add 6 cups water, bring to boil. Remove from stove add borax, 6 more cups water, stir first 24 hours can be used right away. Liquid Lye Lotion] LYE SOAP LOTION - HOW TO MAKE IT ( same process to make shampoo, dish soap and plant spray as well ) To make a lotion out of the soap it is really very easy. In fact it is a good way to recycle those small pieces left over from the shower. To make the lotion just take several small pieces and mix them with water. We recommend you use either a spring water or a distilled water. Something that has the impurities removed. Especially if your using the lotion for a skin allergy or something of the like. They put so many things in city water any more you don't know what you may be mixing into your lotion thus maybe even irritating your condition further. Also you may need to add a little heat when trying to get the soap and water mix if the pieces are really hard. Not much heat just a bit. Anyway just mix in enough water and stir it until you get the consistency you want for your lotion or dish soap or shampoo, whatever it is your making the mix for. Now be sure to put your mix into something relatively air tight so it won't dry right back out. If you need to take it with you in your purse or something just get a small squeeze bottle or a zip lock bag that your sure won't leak. We have also been told if you thin down the solution enough you can use it as a plant spray to keep unwanted bugs away from your plants. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy did I open a can of worms or what?? My take on the whole thing. If it is not a food than it is a medicine. If I had cancer and could not get well using foods and herbal medicine. I would take MMS over chemo any day. Maybe I am ignorant for saying that, but those people you see going through Chemo look like they are really struggling with some aweful feeling besides the illness and side effects along with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think some people with over use any product including MMS and get a reaction and it gets black balled. I don't want to see MMS black balled, but still beleave there is a limit and a danger in using it. But you can say that with alot of herbs. Like Echanasia (sp). It tweaks the liver into boosting the immune system. You should only tweak your liver no longer than 2 weeks. After that you need to give your over worked liver a break. It is better to fight illness with foods and non-acidic vitmains with no fillers or chemical processes done to them. Like Ester-C will build up the emmune system naturally as well as some other vitamins. Now try and find a company that will process it correctly is another trick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alot of people will drink small amounts of proxide and say it has wonderful benifits. I put that right up there with MMS, but have not compared the differences on how they are built to know for sure to catagorize the two together like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any how I hope they keep it on the market because it does seem to have benifits if you know what you are doing. If you black ball that for people having a reaction to it than you would have to do that to other things as well. Like Ginko Baloba which I get a really aweful reaction too. That is not a food. It is a medicine. Just a more natural form of medicine not to be thrown in with pharmisudicals. I hope I made sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One more thing to compare it with. A women had a very small baby who was sick. Someone told her to use either tree tea oil or Ucaliptus oil (sp). To help releave the babys cough. I think she was told to give a few drops in the babys bottle. The baby went into convulsions and died. That is tradgic when someone just takes others at their word and not research it themselves and even try a very tiny dose on themselves before giving it to chirldern. Heck I would want to work up to full doses over a period of time before I would give a child a weaken dose. Well I am glad they did not out law tree tea oil or ucaliptus becuase it has helped so many with different illnesses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So my thinking is if they outlaw MMS. Than will they succeed some day in out lawing other forms of medicine that come directly from the plants. I know MMS is altered to get it to be what it is and that is different then squeezing oils out of trees and plants. But both have their dangers and that is whare I am comparing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One day last year and I posted this episode way back then. I was desperate to kill the bugs I was so covered with bitings, stingings, peircings. I took straight white distilled vinagar and put it into a spray bottle and sprayed myself head to toe. My skin turned purple and tight and burned like a horrable sun burn. I washed off in the shower real quick but the damage was done. Now the bugs could get in better through the skin which could not protect itself and being in horrable pain for 4 days and I swelled up right when I did that and stayed swollen for over a day if I remember correctly. Maybe we should have Vinagar outlawed. lol. 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