Re: Has anyone tried antidepressants for morgellons?

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Jess -

Wish I had a dollar for every time a dermatologist told me that black things

coming out of the skin was " normal " . It is not.

My first thought is that the specks and threads are fungal in nature, especially

since they seem to come out with sulfur. Go to Home Depot and buy a mold test

kit. Put your samples in there and send them off. If it is fungal in nature,

they will be able to identify it. I did this, and it came back as cladosporium

mold and 2 types of yeast. I had a mold-filled showerhead at the beginning of my

ordeal that infected my entire body.

Since I had discovered that, I had my showerheads changed out, but I'm still

fighting the skin mold, which is WAY WAY better...

This is the first step I would take.

Do not take the anti-depressents. Yes, you are anxious because you don't know

what's wrong with you or how to fix it, and the doctors don't believe you have

anything wrong. Once you figure this out, you will be be better.

Hope this helps.

>

> I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of parasitosis.

> It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In fact, my

> psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop while on

> the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants) Parnate +

> Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both stopped having

> feelings of parasites.

>

> The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was fascinated

> by this condition and successfully treated it with antidepressants.

>

> I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment so that

> she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and specks emerged

> from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

>

> When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

> specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she also allowed

> me to see the fiber under the microscope.

>

> She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own " peace of mind " and

> said " every time you think you have skin parasites, just look at the

> picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to have

> those in your skin "

>

> I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel prickles

> every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a super tiny

> pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

>

> But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or how/why do

> they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors successfully treat

> this with antidepressants?

>

> Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's a picture

> of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when printed

> to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's like:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

>

> Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the shower

> (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these small dots

> of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same things

> jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different from the

> fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

>

> Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or parasites? How can

> these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

>

> Thanks a lot.

> Jess

>

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Jess Agree antidepressants are every doctors answer it seems. When so sick with

lyme and not being tested i was given cymbolta and sent home. Later to find out

I was positive for lyme disease. I agree with lint that this is related to

fungus and mold to. I am sorry the medical establishment has turned its back on

another suffering.

> >

> > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of parasitosis.

> > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In fact, my

> > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop while on

> > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants) Parnate +

> > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both stopped having

> > feelings of parasites.

> >

> > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was fascinated

> > by this condition and successfully treated it with antidepressants.

> >

> > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment so that

> > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and specks emerged

> > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

> >

> > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

> > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she also allowed

> > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

> >

> > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own " peace of mind " and

> > said " every time you think you have skin parasites, just look at the

> > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to have

> > those in your skin "

> >

> > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel prickles

> > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a super tiny

> > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

> >

> > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or how/why do

> > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors successfully treat

> > this with antidepressants?

> >

> > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's a picture

> > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when printed

> > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's like:

> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

> >

> > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the shower

> > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these small dots

> > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same things

> > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different from the

> > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

> >

> > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or parasites? How can

> > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

> >

> > Thanks a lot.

> > Jess

> >

>

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Jess -

How your doc determined these were " synthetic " fibers without testing them is

beyond me. What I considered that were " fibers " were really chains of

fungus/mold, as this is the nature of the cladosporium species when they grow.

If you do have collembola (which may be likely), they are simply attracted to

this mold, if that is what it is. I, too, had the same issue. When I got the

mold and yeast on my skin severely reduced, I was no longer an attractant for

these bugs.

If it is really mold, do you know the source of the infection? You should

probably check your showerheads. In addition, look for other mold sources. When

I took my showerheads off and dipped them in bleach, mounds of mold poured out

of them.

If you focus on getting rid of the fungus/mold, the bugs will eventually go

away. They did for me. The treatments on this forum for the environment and body

were very good.

The other thing you need to focus on is boosting your immune system.

My immune system was severely suppressed last year. My husband and I showered in

the same shower, yet I got severely infected and he did not. He got a little

itchy and fixed the itch with some anti-fungal shampoo.... like I wish I could

have recovered just by doing that!

> > >

> > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of parasitosis.

> > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In fact, my

> > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop while on

> > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants) Parnate +

> > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both stopped having

> > > feelings of parasites.

> > >

> > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was fascinated

> > > by this condition and successfully treated it with antidepressants.

> > >

> > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment so that

> > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and specks emerged

> > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

> > >

> > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

> > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she also allowed

> > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

> > >

> > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own " peace of mind " and

> > > said " every time you think you have skin parasites, just look at the

> > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to have

> > > those in your skin "

> > >

> > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel prickles

> > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a super tiny

> > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

> > >

> > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or how/why do

> > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors successfully treat

> > > this with antidepressants?

> > >

> > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's a picture

> > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when printed

> > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's like:

> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

> > >

> > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the shower

> > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these small dots

> > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same things

> > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different from the

> > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

> > >

> > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or parasites? How can

> > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot.

> > > Jess

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi lintFunny you should post about water. I was just doing some laundry and I had a new white laundry basket. I rinsed it out in kitchen sink with hot water. Immediately an film seemed kind of oily with black specks coverd the the bottom of the basket. I had noticed this same film in my kitchen sink. I had to use liquid dish soap to get it off the basket, same with sink. Do you think it's mold. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 20, 2010, at 12:53 PM, lintbugs_too <no_reply > wrote:

Jess -

How your doc determined these were "synthetic" fibers without testing them is beyond me. What I considered that were "fibers" were really chains of fungus/mold, as this is the nature of the cladosporium species when they grow.

If you do have collembola (which may be likely), they are simply attracted to this mold, if that is what it is. I, too, had the same issue. When I got the mold and yeast on my skin severely reduced, I was no longer an attractant for these bugs.

If it is really mold, do you know the source of the infection? You should probably check your showerheads. In addition, look for other mold sources. When I took my showerheads off and dipped them in bleach, mounds of mold poured out of them.

If you focus on getting rid of the fungus/mold, the bugs will eventually go away. They did for me. The treatments on this forum for the environment and body were very good.

The other thing you need to focus on is boosting your immune system.

My immune system was severely suppressed last year. My husband and I showered in the same shower, yet I got severely infected and he did not. He got a little itchy and fixed the itch with some anti-fungal shampoo.... like I wish I could have recovered just by doing that!

> > >

> > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of parasitosis.

> > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In fact, my

> > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop while on

> > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants) Parnate +

> > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both stopped having

> > > feelings of parasites.

> > >

> > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was fascinated

> > > by this condition and successfully treated it with antidepressants.

> > >

> > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment so that

> > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and specks emerged

> > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

> > >

> > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

> > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she also allowed

> > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

> > >

> > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own "peace of mind" and

> > > said "every time you think you have skin parasites, just look at the

> > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to have

> > > those in your skin"

> > >

> > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel prickles

> > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a super tiny

> > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

> > >

> > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or how/why do

> > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors successfully treat

> > > this with antidepressants?

> > >

> > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's a picture

> > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when printed

> > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's like:

> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

> > >

> > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the shower

> > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these small dots

> > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same things

> > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different from the

> > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

> > >

> > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or parasites? How can

> > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot.

> > > Jess

> > >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

You could always buy one of those Home Depot test kits to find out! But it

wouldn't surprise me.

Seems like in the meantime, some water filters are in order!

> > > >

> > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of parasitosis.

> > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In fact, my

> > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop while on

> > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants) Parnate +

> > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both stopped having

> > > > feelings of parasites.

> > > >

> > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was fascinated

> > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with antidepressants.

> > > >

> > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment so that

> > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and specks emerged

> > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

> > > >

> > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

> > > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she also allowed

> > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

> > > >

> > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own " peace of mind " and

> > > > said " every time you think you have skin parasites, just look at the

> > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to have

> > > > those in your skin "

> > > >

> > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel prickles

> > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a super tiny

> > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

> > > >

> > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or how/why do

> > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors successfully treat

> > > > this with antidepressants?

> > > >

> > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's a picture

> > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when printed

> > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's like:

> > > >

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

> > > >

> > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the shower

> > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these small dots

> > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same things

> > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different from the

> > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or parasites? How can

> > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot.

> > > > Jess

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

> ~-|**

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry for all of the posts, but Jess, your situation exactly matches mine

I, too, would get a lot of stinging in my arms, legs, everywhere. When I would

rub in some of Trish's ESP lotion bar, a black thread or speck would pop out

there. The mold was growing uncontrollably in my skin which is what was causing

the stinging sensations, in my opinion. My immune system was not working to hold

any of it back.

Once I got much of it out, things were much, much better. I had to really clean

up my environment to prevent it from re-infecting me, because the mold spores on

my skin were all over my environment because of me. This is also what made

people itch when they would get near me.

> > > >

> > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of parasitosis.

> > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In fact, my

> > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop while on

> > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants) Parnate +

> > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both stopped having

> > > > feelings of parasites.

> > > >

> > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was fascinated

> > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with antidepressants.

> > > >

> > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment so that

> > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and specks emerged

> > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

> > > >

> > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

> > > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she also allowed

> > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

> > > >

> > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own " peace of mind " and

> > > > said " every time you think you have skin parasites, just look at the

> > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to have

> > > > those in your skin "

> > > >

> > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel prickles

> > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a super tiny

> > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

> > > >

> > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or how/why do

> > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors successfully treat

> > > > this with antidepressants?

> > > >

> > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's a picture

> > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when printed

> > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's like:

> > > >

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

> > > >

> > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the shower

> > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these small dots

> > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same things

> > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different from the

> > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or parasites? How can

> > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot.

> > > > Jess

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Anti depressant help me deal with it. It didn't make the problem go away. If

they make you feel better and stronger i would stay on them.

On Sun Jun 20th, 2010 2:26 PM EDT lintbugs_too wrote:

>You could always buy one of those Home Depot test kits to find out! But it

wouldn't surprise me.

>

>Seems like in the meantime, some water filters are in order!

>

>

>> > > >

>> > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of parasitosis.

>> > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In fact, my

>> > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop while on

>> > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants) Parnate

+

>> > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both stopped having

>> > > > feelings of parasites.

>> > > >

>> > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was fascinated

>> > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with antidepressants.

>> > > >

>> > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment so that

>> > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and specks

emerged

>> > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

>> > > >

>> > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

>> > > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she also allowed

>> > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

>> > > >

>> > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own " peace of mind "

and

>> > > > said " every time you think you have skin parasites, just look at the

>> > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to have

>> > > > those in your skin "

>> > > >

>> > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel prickles

>> > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a super tiny

>> > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

>> > > >

>> > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or how/why do

>> > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors successfully treat

>> > > > this with antidepressants?

>> > > >

>> > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's a

picture

>> > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when printed

>> > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's like:

>> > > >

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

>> > > >

>> > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the shower

>> > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these small dots

>> > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same things

>> > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different from the

>> > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

>> > > >

>> > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or parasites? How

can

>> > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

>> > > >

>> > > > Thanks a lot.

>> > > > Jess

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>>

>> ~-|**

>>

>

>

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Thank you for your post, lintbugs_too, and thank you for sharing that

information about the fibers.

I have recently experienced a decrease in fibers and prickles probably

because I moved out of the apartment where I used to live (I lived in a

16-story, 100+ years old Manhattan building that was not being properly

taken care of.) The place was not expensive and most bathroom floors

had caked mold that had accumulated there for YEARS. I began to clean

the tiles and the space between them, which was black with mold. I used

white distilled vinegar, borax, orange plus from earth friendly

products, Dr Bronner's salt suds, baking soda and other soaps to do

this, and yet it was a

constant battle because the very next day (or even the very next hour)

the mold

would start all over. One day that I missed cleaning would allow a

whole colony to thrive somewhere in the bathroom. They even started

breeding in the ceiling with a yellow cover similar to glue and also

covered themselves with a white layer that was hard and resisted soaps

and scrubbing, just like hardened paint.

The (very old) bathroom was designed in a way where there

was hardly any ventilation, so after showering it would remain hot and

damp for a long time, allowing mold to thrive. Same thing with the

wooden

floors. Whatever these parasites are, they also thrived in wood and I'd

notice that they would invade furniture and floors, mostly by sticking

to the darker spots of wood, turning them even darker, and when I'd

wash them off with water, soap and borax, I'd find small canals made by

the little f*ckers.

I'm not sure why exactly I have felt this decrease in prickles, but it

might be

because I moved hundreds of miles away ( I'm currently in northern

Mexico) and I'm staying with relatives. Their bathroom has very good

ventilation and the water doesn't just stay there, the floor is steep

so that the water will go down the drain. I have one bathroom for

myself, so I shower once a day and then the bathroom has time to dry,

whereas in Manhattan I had to share with another 2 roomates, so it was

damp for longer and more often. I've also been applying 10% sulfur

ointment on my skin. I am

not entirely free of fibers yet, and some things really make me

wonder what on earth these things are. Like, they jumped off me onto

the shower curtain the minute I got into the shower at my relatives

house, and suddenly the white liner had a bunch of small dots that

weren't there before. I wonder if they will survive here? Can they

survive any environment even if dry most of the time?

I'm also showering with cold water. Not super cold, but as cold as I

can

handle it. I read somewhere that when your body is hot and damp, it is

the best

environment for them to hatch, so I try to shower fast and cold. And

yet I still see signs of them. The rod that holds the shower curtain

didn't seem to have any rust in it when I first came in, and yet

suddenly it's turning all rusty! It started from the side I get out of

the shower. It's starting to scare me because this is my aunt's house,

and I don't want to turn it into a moldy, fiber infested dumpster. Do

you have any ideas on how to rid her bathroom of any mold that might be

starting to breed? I try to keep it as dry as possible, but that might

not be enough.

By the way, are you free from fibers already? Whether you are, or

whether you've made some progress, what has been your technique? I am

currently doing Vitamin C, Magnesium, garlic and MSM tablets, 10%

sulfur ointment, selsun blue shampoo, New Hope 2 sulfur soap, epson

salts, baking soda, sea salt. I am also trying to cut on sugars and

carbs, although I'm still eating some milk in the form of yogurt to get

some good bacteria. I try to eat lots of eggs and wash my clothes with

Arm and Hammer Detergent, Borax and Epson salts. I also keep my clothes

inside thick vinyl and put moth balls inside.

Do you have any advice on how to keep yourself and the environment free

from this crap? I haven't checked my aunt's showerhead. If it's moldy,

should I change it or just wash it regularly? These things are a real

nightmare. I've been feeling my hands sore in the mornings after

applying sulfur the night before. And upon applying more sulfur I see

more and bigger fibers come out. My fingers are swollen at the middle,

just like arthritis, and one of my feet gets very swollen too. Strange,

but who knows.. Did you ever get tested for lyme? I was about to get

that test, but it costed nearly $200, so I am wondering if I can find

it for less elsewhere. I'm broke on top of everything, so my father has

been paying for lots of stuff, but it's getting expensive.

Last but not least, just a question I'm curious about: Do you take any

prescription drug? I've been told that they might be involved in the

entire morgellons/fungal infection thing, but I have no idea. I'm on

Parnate and Adderall. My psychiatrist told me to stop the adderall and

the prickles would go away, but I refused to and told him that if I had

to choose between parasites and depression, I'd pick the parasites.

Both are a nightmare, but depression is far worse in my experience, and

it doesn't guarantee that the fibers will go away.

Sorry, I know this is long, but just one last question: Are your

fibers always black? One time I was wearing a red sweater, and that day

I pulled a red fiber from the palm of my hand. And I've also seen some

silver colored fibers, while I noticed that my silver covered makup was

starting to have a strange peel off. Do these mold spores pick up

fibers and materials from clothing or things and access the body with

them? I find it strange that they will all come out with sulfur... just

like scabies. They also come out if I submerge my hand in hot water

mixed with epson salts and borax.

Thanks a lot for the info!

Jess

On 6/20/2010 4:11 PM, lintbugs_too wrote:

Sorry for all of the posts, but Jess, your situation exactly

matches mine

I, too, would get a lot of stinging in my arms, legs, everywhere. When

I would rub in some of Trish's ESP lotion bar, a black thread or speck

would pop out there. The mold was growing uncontrollably in my skin

which is what was causing the stinging sensations, in my opinion. My

immune system was not working to hold any of it back.

Once I got much of it out, things were much, much better. I had to

really clean up my environment to prevent it from re-infecting me,

because the mold spores on my skin were all over my environment because

of me. This is also what made people itch when they would get near me.

> > > >

> > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with

delusions of parasitosis.

> > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my

psychiatrist. In fact, my

> > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients

developed dop while on

> > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both

stimulants) Parnate +

> > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall,

both stopped having

> > > > feelings of parasites.

> > > >

> > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her

professors was fascinated

> > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with

antidepressants.

> > > >

> > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist

appointment so that

> > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black

fibers and specks emerged

> > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur

ointment.

> > > >

> > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one

of them with a

> > > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and

later she also allowed

> > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

> > > >

> > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my

own "peace of mind" and

> > > > said "every time you think you have skin parasites,

just look at the

> > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and

it's normal to have

> > > > those in your skin"

> > > >

> > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I

can feel prickles

> > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's

as if a super tiny

> > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

> > > >

> > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers

alive, or how/why do

> > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can

doctors successfully treat

> > > > this with antidepressants?

> > > >

> > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low

because it's a picture

> > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out

great when printed

> > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of

what it's like:

> > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

> > > >

> > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off

me in the shower

> > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up

with these small dots

> > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also

seen the same things

> > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those

are different from the

> > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the

sulfur ointment.

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola

or parasites? How can

> > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just

synthetic fibers?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot.

> > > > Jess

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Jess adderol is for attention deficit disorder not depression. So it shouldn't affect depression one way or the otherSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 20, 2010, at 7:19 PM, jessnyc <helpnynow@...> wrote:

Thank you for your post, lintbugs_too, and thank you for sharing that

information about the fibers.

I have recently experienced a decrease in fibers and prickles probably

because I moved out of the apartment where I used to live (I lived in a

16-story, 100+ years old Manhattan building that was not being properly

taken care of.) The place was not expensive and most bathroom floors

had caked mold that had accumulated there for YEARS. I began to clean

the tiles and the space between them, which was black with mold. I used

white distilled vinegar, borax, orange plus from earth friendly

products, Dr Bronner's salt suds, baking soda and other soaps to do

this, and yet it was a

constant battle because the very next day (or even the very next hour)

the mold

would start all over. One day that I missed cleaning would allow a

whole colony to thrive somewhere in the bathroom. They even started

breeding in the ceiling with a yellow cover similar to glue and also

covered themselves with a white layer that was hard and resisted soaps

and scrubbing, just like hardened paint.

The (very old) bathroom was designed in a way where there

was hardly any ventilation, so after showering it would remain hot and

damp for a long time, allowing mold to thrive. Same thing with the

wooden

floors. Whatever these parasites are, they also thrived in wood and I'd

notice that they would invade furniture and floors, mostly by sticking

to the darker spots of wood, turning them even darker, and when I'd

wash them off with water, soap and borax, I'd find small canals made by

the little f*ckers.

I'm not sure why exactly I have felt this decrease in prickles, but it

might be

because I moved hundreds of miles away ( I'm currently in northern

Mexico) and I'm staying with relatives. Their bathroom has very good

ventilation and the water doesn't just stay there, the floor is steep

so that the water will go down the drain. I have one bathroom for

myself, so I shower once a day and then the bathroom has time to dry,

whereas in Manhattan I had to share with another 2 roomates, so it was

damp for longer and more often. I've also been applying 10% sulfur

ointment on my skin. I am

not entirely free of fibers yet, and some things really make me

wonder what on earth these things are. Like, they jumped off me onto

the shower curtain the minute I got into the shower at my relatives

house, and suddenly the white liner had a bunch of small dots that

weren't there before. I wonder if they will survive here? Can they

survive any environment even if dry most of the time?

I'm also showering with cold water. Not super cold, but as cold as I

can

handle it. I read somewhere that when your body is hot and damp, it is

the best

environment for them to hatch, so I try to shower fast and cold. And

yet I still see signs of them. The rod that holds the shower curtain

didn't seem to have any rust in it when I first came in, and yet

suddenly it's turning all rusty! It started from the side I get out of

the shower. It's starting to scare me because this is my aunt's house,

and I don't want to turn it into a moldy, fiber infested dumpster. Do

you have any ideas on how to rid her bathroom of any mold that might be

starting to breed? I try to keep it as dry as possible, but that might

not be enough.

By the way, are you free from fibers already? Whether you are, or

whether you've made some progress, what has been your technique? I am

currently doing Vitamin C, Magnesium, garlic and MSM tablets, 10%

sulfur ointment, selsun blue shampoo, New Hope 2 sulfur soap, epson

salts, baking soda, sea salt. I am also trying to cut on sugars and

carbs, although I'm still eating some milk in the form of yogurt to get

some good bacteria. I try to eat lots of eggs and wash my clothes with

Arm and Hammer Detergent, Borax and Epson salts. I also keep my clothes

inside thick vinyl and put moth balls inside.

Do you have any advice on how to keep yourself and the environment free

from this crap? I haven't checked my aunt's showerhead. If it's moldy,

should I change it or just wash it regularly? These things are a real

nightmare. I've been feeling my hands sore in the mornings after

applying sulfur the night before. And upon applying more sulfur I see

more and bigger fibers come out. My fingers are swollen at the middle,

just like arthritis, and one of my feet gets very swollen too. Strange,

but who knows.. Did you ever get tested for lyme? I was about to get

that test, but it costed nearly $200, so I am wondering if I can find

it for less elsewhere. I'm broke on top of everything, so my father has

been paying for lots of stuff, but it's getting expensive.

Last but not least, just a question I'm curious about: Do you take any

prescription drug? I've been told that they might be involved in the

entire morgellons/fungal infection thing, but I have no idea. I'm on

Parnate and Adderall. My psychiatrist told me to stop the adderall and

the prickles would go away, but I refused to and told him that if I had

to choose between parasites and depression, I'd pick the parasites.

Both are a nightmare, but depression is far worse in my experience, and

it doesn't guarantee that the fibers will go away.

Sorry, I know this is long, but just one last question: Are your

fibers always black? One time I was wearing a red sweater, and that day

I pulled a red fiber from the palm of my hand. And I've also seen some

silver colored fibers, while I noticed that my silver covered makup was

starting to have a strange peel off. Do these mold spores pick up

fibers and materials from clothing or things and access the body with

them? I find it strange that they will all come out with sulfur... just

like scabies. They also come out if I submerge my hand in hot water

mixed with epson salts and borax.

Thanks a lot for the info!

Jess

On 6/20/2010 4:11 PM, lintbugs_too wrote:

Sorry for all of the posts, but Jess, your situation exactly

matches mine

I, too, would get a lot of stinging in my arms, legs, everywhere. When

I would rub in some of Trish's ESP lotion bar, a black thread or speck

would pop out there. The mold was growing uncontrollably in my skin

which is what was causing the stinging sensations, in my opinion. My

immune system was not working to hold any of it back.

Once I got much of it out, things were much, much better. I had to

really clean up my environment to prevent it from re-infecting me,

because the mold spores on my skin were all over my environment because

of me. This is also what made people itch when they would get near me.

> > > >

> > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with

delusions of parasitosis.

> > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my

psychiatrist. In fact, my

> > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients

developed dop while on

> > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both

stimulants) Parnate +

> > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall,

both stopped having

> > > > feelings of parasites.

> > > >

> > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her

professors was fascinated

> > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with

antidepressants.

> > > >

> > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist

appointment so that

> > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black

fibers and specks emerged

> > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur

ointment.

> > > >

> > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one

of them with a

> > > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and

later she also allowed

> > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

> > > >

> > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my

own "peace of mind" and

> > > > said "every time you think you have skin parasites,

just look at the

> > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and

it's normal to have

> > > > those in your skin"

> > > >

> > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I

can feel prickles

> > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's

as if a super tiny

> > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

> > > >

> > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers

alive, or how/why do

> > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can

doctors successfully treat

> > > > this with antidepressants?

> > > >

> > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low

because it's a picture

> > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out

great when printed

> > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of

what it's like:

> > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

> > > >

> > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off

me in the shower

> > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up

with these small dots

> > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also

seen the same things

> > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those

are different from the

> > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the

sulfur ointment.

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola

or parasites? How can

> > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just

synthetic fibers?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks a lot.

> > > > Jess

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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coating to resist mold

At Home depot theysell Mold Control by Concrobium it contains sodium

carbonate ,

Sodium carbonate , is a big part of arm & hammer powdered laundry soap (

Sodium Carbonate 70-85% of box) ,also there is enzymes (Enzyme Preparation <

1% 9014-01-1 0.00395 mg/m3 (calculated)

(as 100% pure protease) ( bythe way protease is used in meat tenderizer , if too

much is used it can make you sick , it hasnet mmade me sick yet though , I use 1

cup per bath tub for 30 mins & it kills everything , if it dosent I use the

16 oz peroxide

2 tbls borax &

32 oz of water on the bad are till it dies , I leave the peroxide mix on my skin

till the next shower it leave a thin residue to kill bugs & I t penetrates due

to the peroxide .

The M aterial S afety D ata S heet for arm & hammer powdered laundry soap is

below & for arm & hammer powdered laundry soap with bleach ( bleach in this

case is chemical bleach or as we know it oxy clean or sodium perborate like

borax ) , not chlorine bleach ) * see bottom of this letter

I have to use chlorox 1st to kill mold then rinse 6-30 hrs later after soaking

the object in 5 percent bleach & 95 perc water with wet towels or in a bucket

etc . Then I keep the area or item sprayed with the arm & hammer powdered

laundry soap & epsom & borax , this repels mold

God bless you Fellow sufferer,

Bill

MSDS for A & H

Discussion topic:

Scabies/Eggs lifespan? and a question about premethrin...

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MSDS NUMBER: MSDS-056 ISSUE DATE: 03/27/06 PAGE 1 OF 5

CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS: 469 North on Street Princeton, New Jersey

08543-5297 Phone (609) 683-5900

CHURCH & DWIGHT CO., INC.

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1-609-683-5900 (USA)

ARM & HAMMER Powder Laundry Detergent Medical Emergency Phone:

(All Forms: Phosphate, Non-phosphate, Fragrance-free, 1-888-234-1828

with Color Safe Bleach, and Fabric Softener)

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1-416-444-5241 (Canada)

2. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS

Chemical Ingredient (% by Wt) CAS Number Exposure Limits (TLV-TWA)

Alcohol Ethoxysulfate Salt 3-10% 68585-34-2 Not Established

Ethoxylated Alcohol 1-5% 68131-39-5 Not Established

Sodium Percarbonate 1-5% 15630-89-4 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC)

(bleach formula only) 3 mg/m3 resp.

Sodium Carbonate 70-85% 497-19-8 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC)

3 mg/m3 resp.

Enzyme Preparation < 1% 9014-01-1 0.00395 mg/m3 (calculated)

(as 100% pure protease) 0.00006 mg/m3 (ACGIH)

Bentonite Clay 2-6% Mixture 10 mg/m3 inh. (ACGIH-PNOC)

(fabric softener formula only) 3 mg/m3 resp.

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(0.1% for carcinogens) as defined by 29 CFR 1910 or the Hazardous Products Act.

(PNOC = Particles Not Otherwise Classified)

On Sun Jun 20th, 2010 9:24 PM EDT Rush wrote:

>Jess adderol is for attention deficit disorder not depression. So it shouldn't

affect depression one way or the other

>

>Sent from my iPhone

>

>On Jun 20, 2010, at 7:19 PM, jessnyc <helpnynow@...> wrote:

>

>Thank you for your post, lintbugs_too, and thank you for sharing that

information about the fibers.

>

>I have recently experienced a decrease in fibers and prickles probably because

I moved out of the apartment where I used to live (I lived in a 16-story, 100+

years old Manhattan building that was not being properly taken care of.) The

place was not expensive and most bathroom floors had caked mold that had

accumulated there for YEARS. I began to clean the tiles and the space between

them, which was black with mold. I used white distilled vinegar, borax, orange

plus from earth friendly products, Dr Bronner's salt suds, baking soda and other

soaps to do this, and yet it was a constant battle because the very next day (or

even the very next hour) the mold would start all over. One day that I missed

cleaning would allow a whole colony to thrive somewhere in the bathroom. They

even started breeding in the ceiling with a yellow cover similar to glue and

also covered themselves with a white layer that was hard and resisted soaps and

scrubbing, just like

> hardened paint.

>

>The (very old) bathroom was designed in a way where there was hardly any

ventilation, so after showering it would remain hot and damp for a long time,

allowing mold to thrive. Same thing with the wooden floors. Whatever these

parasites are, they also thrived in wood and I'd notice that they would invade

furniture and floors, mostly by sticking to the darker spots of wood, turning

them even darker, and when I'd wash them off with water, soap and borax, I'd

find small canals made by the little f*ckers.

>

>I'm not sure why exactly I have felt this decrease in prickles, but it might be

because I moved hundreds of miles away ( I'm currently in northern Mexico) and

I'm staying with relatives. Their bathroom has very good ventilation and the

water doesn't just stay there, the floor is steep so that the water will go down

the drain. I have one bathroom for myself, so I shower once a day and then the

bathroom has time to dry, whereas in Manhattan I had to share with another 2

roomates, so it was damp for longer and more often. I've also been applying 10%

sulfur ointment on my skin. I am not entirely free of fibers yet, and some

things really make me wonder what on earth these things are. Like, they jumped

off me onto the shower curtain the minute I got into the shower at my relatives

house, and suddenly the white liner had a bunch of small dots that weren't there

before. I wonder if they will survive here? Can they survive any environment

even if dry most of the

> time?

>

>I'm also showering with cold water. Not super cold, but as cold as I can handle

it. I read somewhere that when your body is hot and damp, it is the best

environment for them to hatch, so I try to shower fast and cold. And yet I still

see signs of them. The rod that holds the shower curtain didn't seem to have any

rust in it when I first came in, and yet suddenly it's turning all rusty! It

started from the side I get out of the shower. It's starting to scare me because

this is my aunt's house, and I don't want to turn it into a moldy, fiber

infested dumpster. Do you have any ideas on how to rid her bathroom of any mold

that might be starting to breed? I try to keep it as dry as possible, but that

might not be enough.

>

>By the way, are you free from fibers already? Whether you are, or whether

you've made some progress, what has been your technique? I am currently doing

Vitamin C, Magnesium, garlic and MSM tablets, 10% sulfur ointment, selsun blue

shampoo, New Hope 2 sulfur soap, epson salts, baking soda, sea salt. I am also

trying to cut on sugars and carbs, although I'm still eating some milk in the

form of yogurt to get some good bacteria. I try to eat lots of eggs and wash my

clothes with Arm and Hammer Detergent, Borax and Epson salts. I also keep my

clothes inside thick vinyl and put moth balls inside.

>

>Do you have any advice on how to keep yourself and the environment free from

this crap? I haven't checked my aunt's showerhead. If it's moldy, should I

change it or just wash it regularly? These things are a real nightmare. I've

been feeling my hands sore in the mornings after applying sulfur the night

before. And upon applying more sulfur I see more and bigger fibers come out. My

fingers are swollen at the middle, just like arthritis, and one of my feet gets

very swollen too. Strange, but who knows.. Did you ever get tested for lyme? I

was about to get that test, but it costed nearly $200, so I am wondering if I

can find it for less elsewhere. I'm broke on top of everything, so my father has

been paying for lots of stuff, but it's getting expensive.

>

>Last but not least, just a question I'm curious about: Do you take any

prescription drug? I've been told that they might be involved in the entire

morgellons/fungal infection thing, but I have no idea. I'm on Parnate and

Adderall. My psychiatrist told me to stop the adderall and the prickles would go

away, but I refused to and told him that if I had to choose between parasites

and depression, I'd pick the parasites. Both are a nightmare, but depression is

far worse in my experience, and it doesn't guarantee that the fibers will go

away.

>

>Sorry, I know this is long, but just one last question: Are your fibers always

black? One time I was wearing a red sweater, and that day I pulled a red fiber

from the palm of my hand. And I've also seen some silver colored fibers, while I

noticed that my silver covered makup was starting to have a strange peel off. Do

these mold spores pick up fibers and materials from clothing or things and

access the body with them? I find it strange that they will all come out with

sulfur... just like scabies. They also come out if I submerge my hand in hot

water mixed with epson salts and borax.

>

>

>Thanks a lot for the info!

>Jess

>

>

>

>

>On 6/20/2010 4:11 PM, lintbugs_too wrote:

>

>

>Sorry for all of the posts, but Jess, your situation exactly matches mine

>

>I, too, would get a lot of stinging in my arms, legs, everywhere. When I would

rub in some of Trish's ESP lotion bar, a black thread or speck would pop out

there. The mold was growing uncontrollably in my skin which is what was causing

the stinging sensations, in my opinion. My immune system was not working to hold

any of it back.

>

>Once I got much of it out, things were much, much better. I had to really clean

up my environment to prevent it from re-infecting me, because the mold spores on

my skin were all over my environment because of me. This is also what made

people itch when they would get near me.

>

>

>> > > >

>> > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of parasitosis.

>> > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In fact, my

>> > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop while on

>> > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants) Parnate

+

>> > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both stopped having

>> > > > feelings of parasites.

>> > > >

>> > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was fascinated

>> > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with antidepressants.

>> > > >

>> > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment so that

>> > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and specks

emerged

>> > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

>> > > >

>> > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

>> > > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she also allowed

>> > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

>> > > >

>> > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own " peace of mind "

and

>> > > > said " every time you think you have skin parasites, just look at the

>> > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to have

>> > > > those in your skin "

>> > > >

>> > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel prickles

>> > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a super tiny

>> > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

>> > > >

>> > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or how/why do

>> > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors successfully treat

>> > > > this with antidepressants?

>> > > >

>> > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's a

picture

>> > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when printed

>> > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's like:

>> > > >

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

>> > > >

>> > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the shower

>> > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these small dots

>> > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same things

>> > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different from the

>> > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

>> > > >

>> > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or parasites? How

can

>> > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

>> > > >

>> > > > Thanks a lot.

>> > > > Jess

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

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To Rush:

My doctor gave me adderall in order to augment Parnate, which is an

antidepressant. He wants me to stop it because he thinks it is partly

responsible for the delusions of parasitosis.

One of the side effects of adderall is hallucinations, hence his

assumption.

On 6/20/2010 9:24 PM, Rush wrote:

Jess adderol is for attention deficit disorder not depression.

So it shouldn't affect depression one way or the other

Sent from my iPhone

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Jess, one of the side effects of Adderall is formication. Search Adderall and

formication and you will see why he suggested stopping it. Perhaps you can ask

him for any alternative drugs, like Adderall, to augment the Parnate that do not

cause this effect. Stopping the Adderall maybe one way to rule out DOP. B

> >

> > Jess adderol is for attention deficit disorder not depression. So it

> > shouldn't affect depression one way or the other

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> >

>

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My eyesight is getting bad but I thought you said a side effect of adderol is fornication. I took it for a while but didn't have that side effect. HahaSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 21, 2010, at 12:40 PM, "bobbyboyd99" <bobbyboyd99@...> wrote:

Jess, one of the side effects of Adderall is formication. Search Adderall and formication and you will see why he suggested stopping it. Perhaps you can ask him for any alternative drugs, like Adderall, to augment the Parnate that do not cause this effect. Stopping the Adderall maybe one way to rule out DOP. B

> >

> > Jess adderol is for attention deficit disorder not depression. So it

> > shouldn't affect depression one way or the other

> >

> > Sent from my iPhone

> >

>

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Jess -

Do

> you have any ideas on how to rid her bathroom of any mold that might be

starting to breed? I try to keep it as dry as possible, but that might not be

enough.

I bought an ozone generator, which was the quickest way to clean the air in my

house. That might not be an option for you. It sounds like you are using the

right cleaning products. What about dispersing essential oils into the air? Many

oils will kill mold. I have not tried this yet.

> By the way, are you free from fibers already? Whether you are, or

> whether you've made some progress, what has been your technique? I am

currently doing Vitamin C, Magnesium, garlic and MSM tablets, 10% sulfur

ointment, selsun blue shampoo, New Hope 2 sulfur soap, epson salts, baking soda,

sea salt. I am also trying to cut on sugars and carbs,

If by fibers, do you mean the black mold? No. I still have a small amount still

left. I take tons of supplements: Vitamin C (18-28 grams a day!), 5-htp, samE, a

multivitamin, a bone and mineral formula, zinc, vitamin D, a detox formula,

glycine, an energy and repair formula (with L-glutamine), omega3, borage oil, a

probiotic, MSM, vitamin B12 shots (I learned that I am severely deficient), etc.

I used to take a lot of different treatment baths. The new hope bath soak worked

really well. I use the New Hope II soap and balm almost every day. I also use

the DSP cream. I am on the anti-candida diet as well. I use 's tea tree oil

shampoo and selsun blue for the hair.

I have used the funga soap/endure 3000 combination to get the biofilm and mold

out of the skin. I've also tried using ozonated olive oil along with the FIR

sauna. Both of these work well.

> but who knows.. Did you ever get tested for lyme? I was about to get

> that test, but it costed nearly $200, so I am wondering if I can find it

> for less elsewhere. I'm broke on top of everything, so my father has

> been paying for lots of stuff, but it's getting expensive.

I have not been tested for lyme. My doc is willing to test, I just haven't done

it yet. I honestly do not think lyme is part of my problems... but I could

always be wrong. I may address this in a few months.

> Last but not least, just a question I'm curious about: Do you take any

> prescription drug? I've been told that they might be involved in the

> entire morgellons/fungal infection thing, but I have no idea. I'm on

> Parnate and Adderall. My psychiatrist told me to stop the adderall and

> the prickles would go away, but I refused to and told him that if I had

> to choose between parasites and depression, I'd pick the parasites. Both

> are a nightmare, but depression is far worse in my experience, and it

> doesn't guarantee that the fibers will go away.

I took one round of albenza, only because my doc scoped my stool and believed

there to be some casings and a larva there. So, I took one round, and had some

die-off for 3 days into the meds. I do not intend to take anymore. My doc did

not want to prescribe me any pharmaceutical antifungals due to the effects on

the liver. She wants me to take some caprylic acid and some essiac tea for the

mold issue.

I do take a drug that chelates out metal, since I've tested high in heavy

metals. I only take this drug 2 times a week, so it's not that hard on the

liver. I also take Welchol for high cholesterol. I take 5 htp and samE and

glycine for my anxiety/depression. The natural stuff, along with my b12 shots,

has been working well for me.

> Sorry, I know this is long, but just one last question: Are your fibers

> always black? One time I was wearing a red sweater, and that day I

> pulled a red fiber from the palm of my hand. And I've also seen some

> silver colored fibers, while I noticed that my silver covered makup

I have seen the fibers be black, red, and blue, but mostly they are black.

Hope this helps!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of

> > parasitosis.

> > > > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In

> > fact, my

> > > > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop

> > while on

> > > > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants)

> > Parnate +

> > > > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both

> > stopped having

> > > > > > feelings of parasites.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was

> > fascinated

> > > > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with

> > antidepressants.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment

> > so that

> > > > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and

> > specks emerged

> > > > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

> > > > > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she

> > also allowed

> > > > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own " peace of

> > mind " and

> > > > > > said " every time you think you have skin parasites, just look

> > at the

> > > > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to

> > have

> > > > > > those in your skin "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel

> > prickles

> > > > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a

> > super tiny

> > > > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or

> > how/why do

> > > > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors

> > successfully treat

> > > > > > this with antidepressants?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's

> > a picture

> > > > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when

> > printed

> > > > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's

> > like:

> > > > > >

> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the

> > shower

> > > > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these

> > small dots

> > > > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same

> > things

> > > > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different

> > from the

> > > > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or

> > parasites? How can

> > > > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks a lot.

> > > > > > Jess

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Hi Lintbugs

https://www.betco.com/ChemicalManagement/Pages/Fastdose.aspx?ProdDispGrp=339

Please check out this product, Quat Stat, I found it on one of the mold remediation blog sites. I will order some.

I pretty much do your routine, also love the Shampoo, has tea tree, neem oil, MSM, coilloidal sulfur, rosemary, . my scalp is finally better.

Also do the ESP and DSP, intermittent use variouos products. Also ordered PAC, powdered activated charcoal and use it for car and room and internally.

I think of you Jess, often and wish you and all of us a speedy recovery from this mess.

Marguerite

From: lintbugs_too <no_reply >Subject: Re: Has anyone tried antidepressants for morgellons?bird mites Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 7:12 PM

Jess -Do> you have any ideas on how to rid her bathroom of any mold that might be starting to breed? I try to keep it as dry as possible, but that might not be enough.I bought an ozone generator, which was the quickest way to clean the air in my house. That might not be an option for you. It sounds like you are using the right cleaning products. What about dispersing essential oils into the air? Many oils will kill mold. I have not tried this yet.> By the way, are you free from fibers already? Whether you are, or> whether you've made some progress, what has been your technique? I am currently doing Vitamin C, Magnesium, garlic and MSM tablets, 10% sulfur ointment, selsun blue shampoo, New Hope 2 sulfur soap, epson salts, baking soda, sea salt. I am also trying to cut on sugars and carbs,If by fibers, do you mean the black mold? No. I still have a small amount still left. I take tons of supplements:

Vitamin C (18-28 grams a day!), 5-htp, samE, a multivitamin, a bone and mineral formula, zinc, vitamin D, a detox formula, glycine, an energy and repair formula (with L-glutamine), omega3, borage oil, a probiotic, MSM, vitamin B12 shots (I learned that I am severely deficient), etc.I used to take a lot of different treatment baths. The new hope bath soak worked really well. I use the New Hope II soap and balm almost every day. I also use the DSP cream. I am on the anti-candida diet as well. I use 's tea tree oil shampoo and selsun blue for the hair.I have used the funga soap/endure 3000 combination to get the biofilm and mold out of the skin. I've also tried using ozonated olive oil along with the FIR sauna. Both of these work well. > but who knows.. Did you ever get tested for lyme? I was about to get> that test, but it costed nearly $200, so I am wondering if I can find it> for less elsewhere. I'm broke on top of

everything, so my father has> been paying for lots of stuff, but it's getting expensive.I have not been tested for lyme. My doc is willing to test, I just haven't done it yet. I honestly do not think lyme is part of my problems... but I could always be wrong. I may address this in a few months.> Last but not least, just a question I'm curious about: Do you take any> prescription drug? I've been told that they might be involved in the> entire morgellons/fungal infection thing, but I have no idea. I'm on> Parnate and Adderall. My psychiatrist told me to stop the adderall and> the prickles would go away, but I refused to and told him that if I had> to choose between parasites and depression, I'd pick the parasites. Both> are a nightmare, but depression is far worse in my experience, and it> doesn't guarantee that the fibers will go away.I took one round of albenza, only

because my doc scoped my stool and believed there to be some casings and a larva there. So, I took one round, and had some die-off for 3 days into the meds. I do not intend to take anymore. My doc did not want to prescribe me any pharmaceutical antifungals due to the effects on the liver. She wants me to take some caprylic acid and some essiac tea for the mold issue.I do take a drug that chelates out metal, since I've tested high in heavy metals. I only take this drug 2 times a week, so it's not that hard on the liver. I also take Welchol for high cholesterol. I take 5 htp and samE and glycine for my anxiety/depression. The natural stuff, along with my b12 shots, has been working well for me.> Sorry, I know this is long, but just one last question: Are your fibers> always black? One time I was wearing a red sweater, and that day I> pulled a red fiber from the palm of my hand. And I've also seen some> silver colored

fibers, while I noticed that my silver covered makup I have seen the fibers be black, red, and blue, but mostly they are black. Hope this helps!> > > > > >> > > > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of> > parasitosis.> > > > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In> > fact, my> > > > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop> > while on> > > > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants)> > Parnate

+> > > > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both> > stopped having> > > > > > feelings of parasites.> > > > > >> > > > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was> > fascinated> > > > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with> > antidepressants.> > > > > >> > > > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment> > so that> > > > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and> > specks emerged> > > > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.> > > > > >> > > > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a> > > > > >

specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she> > also allowed> > > > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.> > > > > >> > > > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own "peace of> > mind" and> > > > > > said "every time you think you have skin parasites, just look> > at the> > > > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to> > have> > > > > > those in your skin"> > > > > >> > > > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel> > prickles> > > > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a> > super tiny> > > > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.> > > >

> >> > > > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or> > how/why do> > > > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors> > successfully treat> > > > > > this with antidepressants?> > > > > >> > > > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's> > a picture> > > > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when> > printed> > > > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's> > like:> > > > > >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/> > > > > >>

> > > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the> > shower> > > > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these> > small dots> > > > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same> > things> > > > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different> > from the> > > > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or> > parasites? How can> > > > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks a lot.> > > > > > Jess> > > > > >> >

> > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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https://www.betco.com/ChemicalManagement/Pages/Fastdose.aspx?ProdDispGrp=339

I just send a link and a message and then it disappeared, Actually this is this real link for quat stat product.

From: lintbugs_too <no_reply >Subject: Re: Has anyone tried antidepressants for morgellons?bird mites Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 7:12 PM

Jess -Do> you have any ideas on how to rid her bathroom of any mold that might be starting to breed? I try to keep it as dry as possible, but that might not be enough.I bought an ozone generator, which was the quickest way to clean the air in my house. That might not be an option for you. It sounds like you are using the right cleaning products. What about dispersing essential oils into the air? Many oils will kill mold. I have not tried this yet.> By the way, are you free from fibers already? Whether you are, or> whether you've made some progress, what has been your technique? I am currently doing Vitamin C, Magnesium, garlic and MSM tablets, 10% sulfur ointment, selsun blue shampoo, New Hope 2 sulfur soap, epson salts, baking soda, sea salt. I am also trying to cut on sugars and carbs,If by fibers, do you mean the black mold? No. I still have a small amount still left. I take tons of supplements:

Vitamin C (18-28 grams a day!), 5-htp, samE, a multivitamin, a bone and mineral formula, zinc, vitamin D, a detox formula, glycine, an energy and repair formula (with L-glutamine), omega3, borage oil, a probiotic, MSM, vitamin B12 shots (I learned that I am severely deficient), etc.I used to take a lot of different treatment baths. The new hope bath soak worked really well. I use the New Hope II soap and balm almost every day. I also use the DSP cream. I am on the anti-candida diet as well. I use 's tea tree oil shampoo and selsun blue for the hair.I have used the funga soap/endure 3000 combination to get the biofilm and mold out of the skin. I've also tried using ozonated olive oil along with the FIR sauna. Both of these work well. > but who knows.. Did you ever get tested for lyme? I was about to get> that test, but it costed nearly $200, so I am wondering if I can find it> for less elsewhere. I'm broke on top of

everything, so my father has> been paying for lots of stuff, but it's getting expensive.I have not been tested for lyme. My doc is willing to test, I just haven't done it yet. I honestly do not think lyme is part of my problems... but I could always be wrong. I may address this in a few months.> Last but not least, just a question I'm curious about: Do you take any> prescription drug? I've been told that they might be involved in the> entire morgellons/fungal infection thing, but I have no idea. I'm on> Parnate and Adderall. My psychiatrist told me to stop the adderall and> the prickles would go away, but I refused to and told him that if I had> to choose between parasites and depression, I'd pick the parasites. Both> are a nightmare, but depression is far worse in my experience, and it> doesn't guarantee that the fibers will go away.I took one round of albenza, only

because my doc scoped my stool and believed there to be some casings and a larva there. So, I took one round, and had some die-off for 3 days into the meds. I do not intend to take anymore. My doc did not want to prescribe me any pharmaceutical antifungals due to the effects on the liver. She wants me to take some caprylic acid and some essiac tea for the mold issue.I do take a drug that chelates out metal, since I've tested high in heavy metals. I only take this drug 2 times a week, so it's not that hard on the liver. I also take Welchol for high cholesterol. I take 5 htp and samE and glycine for my anxiety/depression. The natural stuff, along with my b12 shots, has been working well for me.> Sorry, I know this is long, but just one last question: Are your fibers> always black? One time I was wearing a red sweater, and that day I> pulled a red fiber from the palm of my hand. And I've also seen some> silver colored

fibers, while I noticed that my silver covered makup I have seen the fibers be black, red, and blue, but mostly they are black. Hope this helps!> > > > > >> > > > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of> > parasitosis.> > > > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In> > fact, my> > > > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop> > while on> > > > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants)> > Parnate

+> > > > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both> > stopped having> > > > > > feelings of parasites.> > > > > >> > > > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was> > fascinated> > > > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with> > antidepressants.> > > > > >> > > > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment> > so that> > > > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and> > specks emerged> > > > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.> > > > > >> > > > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a> > > > > >

specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she> > also allowed> > > > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.> > > > > >> > > > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own "peace of> > mind" and> > > > > > said "every time you think you have skin parasites, just look> > at the> > > > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to> > have> > > > > > those in your skin"> > > > > >> > > > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel> > prickles> > > > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a> > super tiny> > > > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.> > > >

> >> > > > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or> > how/why do> > > > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors> > successfully treat> > > > > > this with antidepressants?> > > > > >> > > > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's> > a picture> > > > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when> > printed> > > > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's> > like:> > > > > >> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/> > > > > >>

> > > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the> > shower> > > > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these> > small dots> > > > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same> > things> > > > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different> > from the> > > > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.> > > > > >> > > > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or> > parasites? How can> > > > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks a lot.> > > > > > Jess> > > > > >> >

> > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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Margurite the shampoo has all of those ingredients or do you add some? Sounds really good!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 21, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Marguerite <gentlebaybreeze2@...> wrote:

Hi Lintbugs

https://www.betco.com/ChemicalManagement/Pages/Fastdose.aspx?ProdDispGrp=339

Please check out this product, Quat Stat, I found it on one of the mold remediation blog sites. I will order some.

I pretty much do your routine, also love the Shampoo, has tea tree, neem oil, MSM, coilloidal sulfur, rosemary, . my scalp is finally better.

Also do the ESP and DSP, intermittent use variouos products. Also ordered PAC, powdered activated charcoal and use it for car and room and internally.

I think of you Jess, often and wish you and all of us a speedy recovery from this mess.

Marguerite

From: lintbugs_too <no_reply >Subject: Re: Has anyone tried antidepressants for morgellons?bird mites Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 7:12 PM

Jess -Do> you have any ideas on how to rid her bathroom of any mold that might be starting to breed? I try to keep it as dry as possible, but that might not be enough.I bought an ozone generator, which was the quickest way to clean the air in my house. That might not be an option for you. It sounds like you are using the right cleaning products. What about dispersing essential oils into the air? Many oils will kill mold. I have not tried this yet.> By the way, are you free from fibers already? Whether you are, or> whether you've made some progress, what has been your technique? I am currently doing Vitamin C, Magnesium, garlic and MSM tablets, 10% sulfur ointment, selsun blue shampoo, New Hope 2 sulfur soap, epson salts, baking soda, sea salt. I am also trying to cut on sugars and carbs,If by fibers, do you mean the black mold? No. I still have a small amount still left. I take tons of supplements:

Vitamin C (18-28 grams a day!), 5-htp, samE, a multivitamin, a bone and mineral formula, zinc, vitamin D, a detox formula, glycine, an energy and repair formula (with L-glutamine), omega3, borage oil, a probiotic, MSM, vitamin B12 shots (I learned that I am severely deficient), etc.I used to take a lot of different treatment baths. The new hope bath soak worked really well. I use the New Hope II soap and balm almost every day. I also use the DSP cream. I am on the anti-candida diet as well. I use 's tea tree oil shampoo and selsun blue for the hair.I have used the funga soap/endure 3000 combination to get the biofilm and mold out of the skin. I've also tried using ozonated olive oil along with the FIR sauna. Both of these work well. > but who knows.. Did you ever get tested for lyme? I was about to get> that test, but it costed nearly $200, so I am wondering if I can find it> for less elsewhere. I'm broke on

top of

everything, so my father has> been paying for lots of stuff, but it's getting expensive.I have not been tested for lyme. My doc is willing to test, I just haven't done it yet. I honestly do not think lyme is part of my problems... but I could always be wrong. I may address this in a few months.> Last but not least, just a question I'm curious about: Do you take any> prescription drug? I've been told that they might be involved in the> entire morgellons/fungal infection thing, but I have no idea. I'm on> Parnate and Adderall. My psychiatrist told me to stop the adderall and> the prickles would go away, but I refused to and told him that if I had> to choose between parasites and depression, I'd pick the parasites. Both> are a nightmare, but depression is far worse in my experience, and it> doesn't guarantee that the fibers will go away.I took one round of albenza, only

because my doc scoped my stool and believed there to be some casings and a larva there. So, I took one round, and had some die-off for 3 days into the meds. I do not intend to take anymore. My doc did not want to prescribe me any pharmaceutical antifungals due to the effects on the liver. She wants me to take some caprylic acid and some essiac tea for the mold issue.I do take a drug that chelates out metal, since I've tested high in heavy metals. I only take this drug 2 times a week, so it's not that hard on the liver. I also take Welchol for high cholesterol. I take 5 htp and samE and glycine for my anxiety/depression. The natural stuff, along with my b12 shots, has been working well for me.> Sorry, I know this is long, but just one last question: Are your fibers> always black? One time I was wearing a red sweater, and that day I> pulled a red fiber from the palm of my hand. And I've also seen some> silver colored

fibers, while I noticed that my silver covered makup I have seen the fibers be black, red, and blue, but mostly they are black. Hope this helps!> > > >> > > > Jess Agree antidepressants are every doctors answer it seems.

When>

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Thank you, Marguerite!

Which Shampoo do you use? I have not found the MSM one I don't think. I

use the Tea Tree oil one and the Lavendar one and rotate. I've tried the Biotin

one, but I don't like it as much as the other two. I've had dry scalp and

dandruff for years. This all went away when I started using the shampoo. I

guess the chemicals in the other stuff I was using was not good for my scalp.

-lintbugs ... aka " gigi22 " .. I really need to find a way to change my username,

as I don't suffer from the lint stuff anymore!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have been diagnosed again and again with delusions of

> > > parasitosis.

> > > > > > > It's been 3 doctors, 2 dermatologists, and my psychiatrist. In

> > > fact, my

> > > > > > > psychiatrist claims that two previous patients developed dop

> > > while on

> > > > > > > the same types of meds I am currently taking (both stimulants)

> > > Parnate +

> > > > > > > Adderal, and that upon discontinuation of adderall, both

> > > stopped having

> > > > > > > feelings of parasites.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The last dermatologist I saw said one of her professors was

> > > fascinated

> > > > > > > by this condition and successfully treated it with

> > > antidepressants.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I took a 10% sulfur ointment to the dermatologist appointment

> > > so that

> > > > > > > she could see with her own eyes how tiny black fibers and

> > > specks emerged

> > > > > > > from my skin upon application of the sulfur ointment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When the fibers emerged, she took a picture of one of them with a

> > > > > > > specialized camera that magnified the fiber, and later she

> > > also allowed

> > > > > > > me to see the fiber under the microscope.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > She printed the picture and gave it to me for my own " peace of

> > > mind " and

> > > > > > > said " every time you think you have skin parasites, just look

> > > at the

> > > > > > > picture and see it's just a synthetic fiber and it's normal to

> > > have

> > > > > > > those in your skin "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I obviously did no believe it was normal because I can feel

> > > prickles

> > > > > > > every time one of those things enters my skin. It's as if a

> > > super tiny

> > > > > > > pin makes its way into my skin. It *is* painful.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But what I wonder is, are those synthetic fibers alive, or

> > > how/why do

> > > > > > > they bury themselves in my skin? And how can doctors

> > > successfully treat

> > > > > > > this with antidepressants?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here's a picture of the fiber. The quality is low because it's

> > > a picture

> > > > > > > of a picture, and the first picture didn't come out great when

> > > printed

> > > > > > > to begin with, but at least it will give an idea of what it's

> > > like:

> > > > > > >

> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jesspl78/4716379239/in/set-72157624190532259/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Another thing is that I've noticed things jump off me in the

> > > shower

> > > > > > > (I've seen the curtain suddenly start to fill up with these

> > > small dots

> > > > > > > of super-tiny insect-like stains), and I've also seen the same

> > > things

> > > > > > > jump into some food, especially fruit. But those are different

> > > from the

> > > > > > > fibers and I haven't seen them come out with the sulfur ointment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Does anyone know how to test myself for collembola or

> > > parasites? How can

> > > > > > > these fibers enter my skin if they're just synthetic fibers?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks a lot.

> > > > > > > Jess

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much, Marguerite, I wish the same for you and everyone here.

Lately I've been doubting myself more than ever. I'm staying with family

after I almost end up homeless due to depression and all my time/money

spent on bug control.

Everyone, family, doctors, etc, seem to think this is truly just a

mental thing. Not a single person in my life sees this as real, even

after seeing the fibers. They all say it's the type of clothes I wear..

just go figure, I wear regular clothes and probably more sweaters than

others since I don't warm up easily. To the point I'm unconsciously

trying to think its all in my head..and I can't stop taking adderall

(with side effects of formication) because I get more depressed than

ever, and I'd rather feel bugs than hit the bottom with depression.

Finally got tested for lyme and will get the results in a week. I've

been having all kinds of pain in my joints, especially hands and knees,

and occasionally feet, so who knows.. that will be a big sign.

Thanks for you concern and best wishes to you,

Jess

On 6/21/2010 11:01 PM, Marguerite wrote:

> I think of you Jess, often and wish you and all of us a speedy

> recovery from this mess.

>

> Marguerite

[Guest guest]

You are going to have to be very courageous. No one is going to believe you, but don't go into feeling like a victim if you can help it. I swear it makes things worse. The more we go into feeling like a victim, the more mentally we start to collapse. Maybe try some EFT - that helps with the mental aspects of this disease. It helps me a lot! If you don't know what it is, check it out on YouTube. Lots of good instruction videos. Re: Re: Has anyone tried antidepressants for morgellons?

Thanks so much, Marguerite, I wish the same for you and everyone here.Lately I've been doubting myself more than ever. I'm staying with familyafter I almost end up homeless due to depression and all my time/moneyspent on bug control.Everyone, family, doctors, etc, seem to think this is truly just amental thing. Not a single person in my life sees this as real, evenafter seeing the fibers. They all say it's the type of clothes I wear..just go figure, I wear regular clothes and probably more sweaters thanothers since I don't warm up easily. To the point I'm unconsciouslytrying to think its all in my head..and I can't stop taking adderall(with side effects of formication) because I get more depressed thanever, and I'd rather feel bugs than hit the bottom with depression.Finally got tested for lyme and will get the results in a week. I'vebeen having all kinds of pain in my joints, especially hands and knees,and occasionally feet, so who knows.. that will be a big sign.Thanks for you concern and best wishes to you,JessOn 6/21/2010 11:01 PM, Marguerite wrote:> I think of you Jess, often and wish you and all of us a speedy> recovery from this mess.> > Marguerite

[Guest guest]

Jess, there are so many issues to discuss and my heart goes out to you, I have been there, I even let myself get admitted to the luni bin as an alternative to suicide at one time, knowing full well they call it DOP or worse actually, pretenting they believe me and shove pharmaceuticals down my throat, ' so you will not get so consumed by these things that you mention'.....

to hell and back, yes, sometimes still hell and others I practice mental and spiritual discipline and come to this site.

About the cold shower issue, please do not, they live and thrive in warm/moist, long sustained environment true, but the shower is running water, make it as hot a possible, if it does not kill them, at best you wash off the scent they like for a bit, I see or notice them more too and finally figured out, that they just get 'stirred' up and come out of YOU or ME,

yes, also they are hiding in the shower curtain and around the drain and shower head of course, but please, warm/hot water, leather up and enjoy the moment. Just because you do not notice or see them, does not mean they are not there, they are just comfortably embedded in you skin folds etc., cozy slumber, then they stir again with certain stimulants, or get hungry or whattheheck.

I look forward to blow drying my entire body, they hate it, moving air, the heat, plus it makes me war, always cold since this menace...

Please, keep us posted....got to go, have night call this week and actually out til 3 am this morning then up again at 7, my routines are shoddy during this time, because one never knows and I must refrain to going full gusto with the masks, soaks etc in case I got to face the public.

Where in Northern Mexcico are you, may I ask ?

Hugs for now and please try to be strong, they are not going to kill you. please reduce the sweater situation, go athletic gear, layer a lot...

Marguerite> I think of you Jess, often and wish you and all of us a speedy> recovery from this mess.> > Marguerite

[Guest guest]

Sending you healing thoughts Jess. Is there any alternative to Adderall for

you to try instead?

> > I think of you Jess, often and wish you and all of us a speedy

> > recovery from this mess.

> >

> > Marguerite

>

[Guest guest]

I went to the looney bin once. I mainly went for a break from it all; the bugs

and the craziness. I was there for only three days but mainly it was a

vacation. That was probably my biggest turning point. I basically started from

scratch and stopped listening to what everyone was telling me and did what i

thought i needed to do. I did take advice but i stopped regarding what people

told me as commands. No one understands this disease completely. Who better

than a patient of it though? I stopped complaining about it to everyone and

took control of it. After i got my act together i told my parents about the cdc

website and they believe me now.

On Wed Jun 23rd, 2010 1:54 AM EDT Zoe wrote:

>Sending you healing thoughts Jess. Is there any alternative to Adderall for

you to try instead?

>

>

>> > I think of you Jess, often and wish you and all of us a speedy

>> > recovery from this mess.

>> >

>> > Marguerite

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My mom flew to go to a doctors appointment with me. She proceeded to tell the

doctor about the bugs and all the cleaning i was doing. I had never felt so

betrayed by my own family. The doctor them told me about this great head doctor

that was very open mined and that he was booked but they could get me in right

away. I took the referral and my mom left and i never went. She came about two

weeks after i had figured out it is m.

On Wed Jun 23rd, 2010 1:18 AM EDT Goldstein@... wrote:

>You are going to have to be very courageous. No one is going to believe you,

but don't go into feeling like a victim if you can help it. I swear it makes

things worse. The more we go into feeling like a victim, the more mentally we

start to collapse. Maybe try some EFT - that helps with the mental aspects of

this disease. It helps me a lot! If you don't know what it is, check it out on

YouTube. Lots of good instruction videos.

>

>

>

> Re: Re: Has anyone tried antidepressants for

morgellons?

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>Thanks so much, Marguerite, I wish the same for you and everyone here.

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>Lately I've been doubting myself more than ever. I'm staying with family

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>after I almost end up homeless due to depression and all my time/money

>

>

>spent on bug control.

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>

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>Everyone, family, doctors, etc, seem to think this is truly just a

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>mental thing. Not a single person in my life sees this as real, even

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>after seeing the fibers. They all say it's the type of clothes I wear..

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>just go figure, I wear regular clothes and probably more sweaters than

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>

>others since I don't warm up easily. To the point I'm unconsciously

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>

>trying to think its all in my head..and I can't stop taking adderall

>

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>(with side effects of formication) because I get more depressed than

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>ever, and I'd rather feel bugs than hit the bottom with depression.

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>Finally got tested for lyme and will get the results in a week. I've

>

>

>been having all kinds of pain in my joints, especially hands and knees,

>

>

>and occasionally feet, so who knows.. that will be a big sign.

>

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>Thanks for you concern and best wishes to you,

>

>

>Jess

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>On 6/21/2010 11:01 PM, Marguerite wrote:

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>> I think of you Jess, often and wish you and all of us a speedy

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>> recovery from this mess.

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>> Marguerite

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[Guest guest]

I don't know if you are willing but i tried the it's all in my head thing for a

while. I thought just get me out of this hell and maybe this will work. That

was when i checked into the mental place. It was my last time i had somebody

tell me what to do. Of course the bugs didn't go away and they accused me of

being annerexic and on drugs. Ha my bmi was normal when they looked it up and

there were no drugs in my system. Being there i met people with real problems

and kind of gained a new reflection of myself.

On Wed Jun 23rd, 2010 1:10 AM EDT jessnyc wrote:

>Thanks so much, Marguerite, I wish the same for you and everyone here.

>

>Lately I've been doubting myself more than ever. I'm staying with family

>after I almost end up homeless due to depression and all my time/money

>spent on bug control.

>

>Everyone, family, doctors, etc, seem to think this is truly just a

>mental thing. Not a single person in my life sees this as real, even

>after seeing the fibers. They all say it's the type of clothes I wear..

>just go figure, I wear regular clothes and probably more sweaters than

>others since I don't warm up easily. To the point I'm unconsciously

>trying to think its all in my head..and I can't stop taking adderall

>(with side effects of formication) because I get more depressed than

>ever, and I'd rather feel bugs than hit the bottom with depression.

>

>Finally got tested for lyme and will get the results in a week. I've

>been having all kinds of pain in my joints, especially hands and knees,

>and occasionally feet, so who knows.. that will be a big sign.

>

>Thanks for you concern and best wishes to you,

>Jess

>

>

>

>

>On 6/21/2010 11:01 PM, Marguerite wrote:

>> I think of you Jess, often and wish you and all of us a speedy

>> recovery from this mess.

>>

>> Marguerite

>