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they are inundated with phone calls for the study, but keep trying.

focus on the CFS symptoms, study online, that will be your 'in' for the study, their blood work is what you want (for free!.............includes important tests for us).

would hold off on the 'bug story'..........

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From: Lynn <torpedolynn@...>Subject: Re: Just gotta saybird mites Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 8:24 AM

Oh MargueriteYou have worked with two of the people at the place that is going to do the study. Yes I am in. I will try to call them late today. Have to watch the grandkids till 2ish or 3 ish today. I do not know if I have enough of the dease to give them good results but I am so curious as to what they would find. Are you just starting Stanigers protocall?? I went down hill for a few days really bad and I though uh oh after all that exspense and all the strength it takes to try to be more tenacious then the bugs. I felt completely deflated. Failed and finished. When I figured out it was the ham I did a few things to try and get it out of the system. More 4 herb tea and more Cyenne drops. Started using proxide again under the sheet and under the cover pad on the plastic encasement on the mattress. Last night way less bugs. Today I only have a small hand full on me and they are being pretty quite. As soon as I eat they will probably

pick up speed. My husband finally installed the replacement peices in the shower. Our shower had stoped working. Now I can irragate the vaginal area and that has gotten rid of the ones living in there. Even though I was spraying vinagar up there and putting sulfar soap up there twice a day. Just irrigating the area made the difference. Go figure. Well grandkid wants me. More later.In Light Lynn> >> > you can 'catch' shingles from someone with chickenpox, I did at 17, nearly got blind in my right eye, still got corneal scars to this day, at time of the outbreak, the lesions presented exactly to the half of my forehead and started from my temple, (trigeminus nerve VIII), my Herpes zoster titres, antibodies to this day are extremely high and been asked to donate my plasma for research and

resource ( producing reagents for lab tests ). > >  > > Btw........ Marie, my internet surfer queen, great find with the stanford research,(me too busy for this)............ I am all in and have now a serious case of 'cfs'.........among other things. I also know Jane there, I used to work at stanford in 2006.>

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Lynn I took several, many intended for animals. Here is one made specifically

for humans. I also tried Derma NERV, Life Cell Support.

http://wolfcreekranch.net/viparabac_plus.html

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only expressing to him the herbs from myherbs.net were not as effective for ME

as wolf creek ranch cocktail. geezzzz again

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Bobby venus fly trap had just been introduced to the market when I elected to

take wolf creek ranch up on there offer of testing me with herbs for lyme, and

if you will morgellon. I had seen Carnicom studies months ago. Bobby I know what

mms has done for me I will not turn my back on what I know for me. mms was a

stepping stone and without it I do not think I would be healed like I am. There

are hundreds besides myself that have found unbelievable healing with mms and

mms2. Good luck with the herbs hope they help.

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folks. But my mms2 cost $15.00 for a years supply.

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weak, and non-toxic oxy-chloro molecule. As an antibacterial, it is

unparalleled; the EPA has recognized its action against protozoans, bacteria,

mold, fungi, and viruses. It is a safely consumable solution that destroys E.

coli, Salmonella, Staphylococcus, mold, and fungi on contact. In low

concentrations, hypochlorous acid has an unsurpassed effect upon the

bio-terrain. Testimonials from our customers verify that Anu's slight chlorine

flavor is counterbalanced by the numerous health

behttp://www.espbotanicals.com/buy_Anu.htmlnefits derived from drinking Anu

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Marie I agree with you. I had the exact same success with anu, I didn't have all the extreme side effects that come with mms, I felt like I was taking chemo when I did the mms. But I guess the end results I had with the anu were the same. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 7, 2010, at 7:29 PM, "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote:

Bobby venus fly trap had just been introduced to the market when I elected to take wolf creek ranch up on there offer of testing me with herbs for lyme, and if you will morgellon. I had seen Carnicom studies months ago. Bobby I know what mms has done for me I will not turn my back on what I know for me. mms was a stepping stone and without it I do not think I would be healed like I am. There are hundreds besides myself that have found unbelievable healing with mms and mms2. Good luck with the herbs hope they help.

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Yes, for me doing MMS (Chlorine Dioxide) also made me feel like I was doing chemo (nausea, stomach soreness, etc). I pretty sure that the naseau and other side effects were not from a herx reaction, but rather an intolerance and damage due to the chemical Chlorine Dioxide. It also didn't improve my condition at all.

In addtion, direct consumption of Chlorine Dioxide and Calcium Hypochlorite (MMS1 & 2) has caused some people to die. Please read the MSDS's for these chemicals to inform yourself of the dangers of consumption. Here is yet another example of a death of someone following Jim Humble's MMS protocol:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1504247#i

Below are some quotes from http://www.ehow.com/list_6498342_chlorine-dioxide-dangers.html

"Long-term health effects associated with chlorine dioxide include shortness of breath, permanent lung damage and cough with phlegm. It may cause genetic changes in living cells. Negative health effects due to chlorine dioxide can persist for years."

"...chlorine dioxide is used in various commercial and industrial processes. Its byproducts and waste are often discharged to water. Chlorine dioxide is highly toxic to an aquatic marine environment. It affects the mortality, growth and population of crustaceans, fish, fungi, phytoplankton, zooplankton and mollusks. Chlorine dioxide causes low growth rate in plants and the death of birds, fish and animals"

I'm interested in the ANU water, and wonder what in it is helping the most in it (it has over 80 minerals in it, plus more). Some testimonials of people with morgallans can be found here: http://www.espbotanicals.com/buy_Anu.html

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From: Rush <rushtessman@...>"bird mites " <bird mites >Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 8:57:52 PMSubject: Re: Re: Just gotta say

Marie I agree with you. I had the exact same success with anu, I didn't have all the extreme side effects that come with mms, I felt like I was taking chemo when I did the mms. But I guess the end results I had with the anu were the same. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2010, at 7:29 PM, "healinghope" <mfrreman (DOT) com> wrote:

Bobby venus fly trap had just been introduced to the market when I elected to take wolf creek ranch up on there offer of testing me with herbs for lyme, and if you will morgellon. I had seen Carnicom studies months ago. Bobby I know what mms has done for me I will not turn my back on what I know for me. mms was a stepping stone and without it I do not think I would be healed like I am. There are hundreds besides myself that have found unbelievable healing with mms and mms2. Good luck with the herbs hope they help. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Anu water, what are the ingredients? Hypochlorous acid, MMS2 folks. But my mms2 cost $15.00 for a years supply.> > > > > > > > > > http://jimhumble. biz/biz-mms2intr o-eng.htm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HClO: Anu contains trace amounts of hypochlorous acidâ€"a weak, and non-toxic oxy-chloro molecule. As an antibacterial, it is unparalleled; the EPA has recognized its action against protozoans, bacteria, mold, fungi, and

viruses. It is a safely consumable solution that destroys E. coli, Salmonella, Staphylococcus, mold, and fungi on contact. In low concentrations, hypochlorous acid has an unsurpassed effect upon the bio-terrain. Testimonials from our customers verify that Anu's slight chlorine flavor is counterbalanced by the numerous health behttp://www. espbotanicals. com/buy_Anu. htmlnefits derived from drinking Anu Water.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Yes, for me doing MMS (Chlorine Dioxide) also made me feel like I was doing chemo (nausea, stomach soreness, etc). I pretty sure that the naseau and other side effects were not from a herx reaction, but rather an intolerance and damage due to the chemical Chlorine Dioxide. It also didn't improve my condition at all.

In addtion, direct consumption of Chlorine Dioxide and Calcium Hypochlorite (MMS1 & 2) has caused some people to die. Please read the MSDS's for these chemicals to inform yourself of the dangers of consumption. Here is yet another example of a death of someone following Jim Humble's MMS protocol:

http://curezone. com/forums/ fm.asp?i= 1504247#i

Below are some quotes from http://www.ehow. com/list_ 6498342_chlorine -dioxide- dangers.html

"Long-term health effects associated with chlorine dioxide include shortness of breath, permanent lung damage and cough with phlegm. It may cause genetic changes in living cells. Negative health effects due to chlorine dioxide can persist for years."

"...chlorine dioxide is used in various commercial and industrial processes. Its byproducts and waste are often discharged to water. Chlorine dioxide is highly toxic to an aquatic marine environment. It affects the mortality, growth and population of crustaceans, fish, fungi, phytoplankton, zooplankton and mollusks. Chlorine dioxide causes low growth rate in plants and the death of birds, fish and animals"

I'm interested in the ANU water, and wonder what in it is helping the most in it (it has over 80 minerals in it, plus more). Some testimonials of people with morgallans can be found here: http://www.espbotan icals.com/ buy_Anu.html

J

From: Rush <rushtessman>"bird mites" <bird mites>Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 8:57:52 PMSubject: Re: Re: Just gotta say

Marie I agree with you. I had the exact same success with anu, I didn't have all the extreme side effects that come with mms, I felt like I was taking chemo when I did the mms. But I guess the end results I had with the anu were the same. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2010, at 7:29 PM, "healinghope" <mfrreman (DOT) com> wrote:

Bobby venus fly trap had just been introduced to the market when I elected to take wolf creek ranch up on there offer of testing me with herbs for lyme, and if you will morgellon. I had seen Carnicom studies months ago. Bobby I know what mms has done for me I will not turn my back on what I know for me. mms was a stepping stone and without it I do not think I would be healed like I am. There are hundreds besides myself that have found unbelievable healing with mms and mms2. Good luck with the herbs hope they help. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Anu water, what are the ingredients? Hypochlorous acid, MMS2 folks. But my mms2 cost $15.00 for a years supply.> > > > > > > > > > http://jimhumble. biz/biz-mms2intr o-eng.htm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HClO: Anu contains trace amounts of hypochlorous acidâ€"a weak, and non-toxic oxy-chloro molecule. As an antibacterial, it is unparalleled; the EPA has recognized its action against protozoans, bacteria, mold, fungi, and

viruses. It is a safely consumable solution that destroys E. coli, Salmonella, Staphylococcus, mold, and fungi on contact. In low concentrations, hypochlorous acid has an unsurpassed effect upon the bio-terrain. Testimonials from our customers verify that Anu's slight chlorine flavor is counterbalanced by the numerous health behttp://www. espbotanicals. com/buy_Anu. htmlnefits derived from drinking Anu Water.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Anu water is made with calcium hypochlorite which is mms2 JS. Activated with

water makes hypochloric acid. And yes taking mms1 was rough just like beating

cancer this is no walk in the park, it is tough.

http://www.espbotanicals.com/buy_Anu.html

Anu contains trace amounts of hypochlorous acid—a weak, and non-toxic oxy-chloro

molecule. As an antibacterial, it is unparalleled; the EPA has recognized its

action against protozoans, bacteria, mold, fungi, and viruses. It is a safely

consumable solution that destroys E. coli, Salmonella, Staphylococcus, mold, and

fungi on contact. In low concentrations, hypochlorous acid has an unsurpassed

effect upon the bio-terrain. Testimonials from our customers verify that Anu's

slight chlorine flavor is counterbalanced by the numerous health benefits

derived from drinking Anu Water.

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

OK, so what is MMS2? What chemical turns to hypochlorous acid in the body? Hold

on to your hat. It's a special type of swimming ----- pool ----- chlorine. Well,

that's what everybody calls it - swimming pool chlorine. BUT it is really not

chlorine. It's a special agent that is used to " shock " the pool, called CALCIUM

HYPOCHLORITE.

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acid†" a weak, and non-toxic oxy-chloro molecule. As an antibacterial, it is

unparalleled; the EPA has recognized its action against protozoans, bacteria,

mold, fungi, and viruses. It is a safely consumable solution that destroys E.

coli, Salmonella, Staphylococcus, mold, and fungi on contact. In low

concentrations, hypochlorous acid has an unsurpassed effect upon the

bio-terrain. Testimonials from our customers verify that Anu's slight chlorine

flavor is counterbalanced by the numerous health behttp://www. espbotanicals.

com/buy_Anu. htmlnefits derived from drinking Anu Water.

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People are used to being told that you shock a pool with chlorine, but that's

not really the scientific facts. It's easy to explain this way. The scientific

facts are that no free chlorine is added to the pool. The pool is in fact

shocked with hypochlorous acid. A pouch of 78% calcium hypochlorite (about one

pound) costs less than $5 dollars in the US. You can buy it at any swimming pool

supply store, but not just any pool chlorine. It has to be calcium hypochlorite.

That's right, when it is put into pool water it instantly changes into

hypochlorous acid. It's not the same as chlorine in water. Not at all. Other

chemicals change into chlorine, but not calcium hypochlorite. It changes into

HOCl (that's the chemical formula for hypochlorous acid). It is a combination of

hydrogen, oxygen, and chlorine. Like table salt it also has chlorine in it, but

it reacts far differently than chlorine. MMS1 and MMS2 are made from two of the

cheapest mineral substances that we have. MMS1 will cure malaria, the worst

disease of mankind, in about 10 hours and for less than 5 cents. MMS2 is similar

in cost if not cheaper.

http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

http://www.espbotanicals.com/buy_Anu.html

HClO: Anu contains trace amounts of hypochlorous acid—a weak, and non-toxic

oxy-chloro molecule. As an antibacterial, it is unparalleled; the EPA has

recognized its action against protozoans, bacteria, mold, fungi, and viruses. It

is a safely consumable solution that destroys E. coli, Salmonella,

Staphylococcus, mold, and fungi on contact. In low concentrations, hypochlorous

acid has an unsurpassed effect upon the bio-terrain. Testimonials from our

customers verify that Anu's slight chlorine flavor is counterbalanced by the

numerous health benefits derived from drinking Anu Water.

Oxidation Reduction Potential (ORP): ORP is a commonly-used measure in physical

chemistry for denoting the oxidation or reduction power of a substance, usually

a liquid, and is expressed as millivolts. It is the ability of substances to

donate an electron in a reaction that gives it anti-oxidant properties. Positive

ORP has been shunned by certain areas of the science community as oxidizing

rather than reducing; ignoring the fact that Vitamin C and other anti-oxidants

with a higher molecular weight have a high positive ORP. Anu has an ORP of

600-800mv when bottled.

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acid†" a weak, and non-toxic oxy-chloro molecule. As an antibacterial, it is

unparalleled; the EPA has recognized its action against protozoans, bacteria,

mold, fungi, and viruses. It is a safely consumable solution that destroys E.

coli, Salmonella, Staphylococcus, mold, and fungi on contact. In low

concentrations, hypochlorous acid has an unsurpassed effect upon the

bio-terrain. Testimonials from our customers verify that Anu's slight chlorine

flavor is counterbalanced by the numerous health behttp://www. espbotanicals.

com/buy_Anu. htmlnefits derived from drinking Anu Water.

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Quotes from the MSDS of Calcium Hypochlorite are below (http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/C0418.htm)

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Lynn Your welcome all ingredients are listed with the herbal cocktails.

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