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If you could spare a few, I would appreciate it immensely.

Things blowing up here, I found a place where they are coming in through the window sills.

From: bobbyboyd99 <bobbyboyd99@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 6:26:09 PMSubject: Re: Identified

Sure, I'll send her some Frito. But Trish sent me 20 bars extra for this room and they are not uavailable on her webite yet. I posted this a few days ago and no one replied wanting any. Good luck and we will help in any way you need. B

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HI FRITO. I AM SO SORRY YOU HAVE BEEN HIT AGAIN! I WILL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS.

JOAN

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Sure, I'll send her some Frito. But Trish sent me 20 bars extra for this room and they are not uavailable on her webite yet. I posted this a few days ago and no one replied wanting any. Good luck and we will help in any way you need. B>> Okay, they have been positively identified by the extermination company. He stated to me, that they have treated for them before. ???Ya, ya, I know. Anywho, I am going to try to retain a lawyer, as I am sure this will be a long drawn out ordeal and especially hard hit since I lost my job. I am seeking multiple identifications at this point.> > Thank you for all your well wishes, and Bobby, I had read this other person is currently homeless, where as my situation is not there yet, but imminent. So perhaps, this other poster should receive your kindness. And thank you so very much, I would have taken your offer, but she needs it more. I cry as I write this.> > Okay, since I will retaining a lawyer to oversee this process, I am not sure about writing it all up all over the internet. So, although I am not going to post specifically about my own situation, I am still checking in.> > I really can't thank you all enough and the creator as well.> > Frito>

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From: Joan Wood <joanwood@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 9:47:20 AMSubject: Re: Re: Identified

HI FRITO. I AM SO SORRY YOU HAVE BEEN HIT AGAIN! I WILL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS.

JOAN

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Joan? You are still here? How are you? What's going on with you and your life?

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Yes I am still around. Neal has not had any more problems with the demons but I worry that it may return any time. We had a hard winter due to Neal's rheumatoid arthritis giving him so much pain in the colder weather and I had a bad winter also but not as much. I just got out of the hospital thursday after having 3 stents put in. I didn't even know I had a heart problem, but had a scheduled cat scan monday and when they put the contrast in I had a bad reaction with my chest hurting and feeling a lot of pressure. They insisted I get checked out so after all the tests it was determined I had some clogged arteries. They also found I had had a heart attack sometime in the past - don't know when - and never had any major symptoms. Guess you just never know.

Anyway, I wish you all the best with your problem and hope your lawsuit turns out well for you. Please keep us informed of your progress and I hope you will find a better job now.

Joan

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HI FRITO. I AM SO SORRY YOU HAVE BEEN HIT AGAIN! I WILL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS.

JOAN

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Joan? You are still here? How are you? What's going on with you and your life?

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Hi Jo,

The exterminator identified birdmites. On Monday, the Kansas State Entomology Unit confirmed D. Gallinae. I am still referring back and forth with them, as I believe there are two different types. Waiting for the final word.

Just an FYI, the samples I was able to get, these didn't move either. But once you get them under the scope, you can only then see them move. And this was on tape. And, they do burrow into the skin. I don't care what the experts say, they are wrong. And it does look like scabies, but it isn't.

Some observations for all. This is now the second infestation I have experienced. I live about a mile and a half from the first location. So, these are in this neighborhood.

The petechaie we have all talked about at one time. Got those again too. And the freakles. This is the same that I experienced the last time. The glass like feeling in the hands. The white specks that pop out of your pores. Biting, crawling, itching. Black specks.

The problem with submitting samples from the skin is that when taken, usually the body is all that can be seen. Mites are the first cousin to ticks. So when they bite, they also inject an enzyme which forms a pore in which the mite can feed from. That means burying their head, just like a tick. I think a lot of times, when we feel them, we swipe or scratch, and hence the body comes off easily, but the head stays, just like if you take a tick out wrong. And the legs are very delicate and also get broken off. Hence, the doctor looks at your skin, the bites, the histamine reaction, and the advancement of the bites, and diagnoses scabies, but they are not. And because they are so tiny, by the time you display the scabies like symptoms, which doesn't take long at all, but literally in the span of a very short time, you have tens of thousands of these things biting. Since the first appearance of these things

on our window sills, that time frame is one month.

Reading this last paragraph, I want to make sure everyone understands, this has been my own experience.

I need to go look at the fourth picture. Please take care Jo.

Frito

From: jo_btc <jo_btc@...>bird mites Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 8:21:27 PMSubject: Re: Identified

Hello Frito, I just saw your slide show and I would like to know what the extermintor said they are? About the 4th slide is what I am having in my house, me and my vehicle? I cant get anyone to believe me that they are alive. I was diagnosed having scabies but I know that if I can see these things, it is not scabies. God bless you

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Z,

You inquired as to whether others in my household are affected. I have one son left in the household and it would seem this time around, he is the one more affected than I am.

How did I get rid of them internally/externally the first time around? That was a hell of a struggle and now looking back, I didn't do that very well. I was unable to get my environment like I should of in the beginning. This infestation versus the previous. I am sure of the sheer numbers and their size makes them dangerous. Previously, I had a three level home, huge and full of stuff. Since then, I can't tell you things I have thrown out, and this time, my living situation, my home, was much simplier to address. As far as internally, that would be another post as it did entail quite a bit of work.

Are you being bitten relentlessly? Please address your environment. This time around, with this huge spray we went through, it immendiately addressed the sheer numbers. We didn't experience the frenzy like we did previously.

To kill them on my skin, bring them up out of the pores and the skin, I used MSM, Borax solute, and gentian violet. This is a mix I had come up with, and seems to address specifically, the mites, the bacteria, the fungus associated with them, and is a broad spectrum. The MSM is a catalyst for the GV and Borax. These don't penetrate the dermal layer in the quantities I use, so I use the MSM as a carrier, catalyst, skin penetrant. MSM is one of the chemical components to DMSO. I chose MSM over DMSO for the obvious smell and taste factor. DMSO I think some of you may be familar with, as you use it as an activator and a catalyst for dermal application of MMS. MSM is capable of the same thing. The borax will poison whatever is hatched, it kills mycoplasma, and is a broad spectrum antifungal and antibacterial. The gentian violet, the same. I don't use enough in the mix to stain my skin

purple. This stuff works, it softens the skin, heals the skin, kills the mites, addresses mycoplasma, fungus, and on. The healing takes place from the inside out. The skin will flake. I use vitamin c homeade lotion to keep it hydrated. It doesn't have to be to complicated. You can get a natural skin lotion from wherever you choose. I crush my own vitamin c, and add it.

You know you said I learned so much the first time, I did, but it has taken a second time to quit questioning myself so much. There are many things that have been similar as the previous experience. But there have been many ways that are not either. I think with a second go around here, I just may have some more to learn.

Frito

From: Zoe <zoe_z3@...>bird mites Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 11:49:41 PMSubject: Re: Identified

Frito,I'm so glad you were able to get an ID. They sound/look exactly like what we had starting ~14-months ago. Now we don't see any mites anymore, but still get the bites/prickles. Are others in your house affected too? How did you get rid of them internally/external ly the first time around? You must have learned so much the first time through in dealing with this.Sending you lots of healing thoughts,z3>> Hi Jo,> > The exterminator identified birdmites. On Monday, the Kansas State Entomology Unit confirmed D. Gallinae. I am still referring back and forth with them, as I believe there are two different types. Waiting for the final word.> > Just an FYI, the

samples I was able to get, these didn't move either. But once you get them under the scope, you can only then see them move. And this was on tape. And, they do burrow into the skin. I don't care what the experts say, they are wrong. And it does look like scabies, but it isn't.> > Some observations for all. This is now the second infestation I have experienced. I live about a mile and a half from the first location. So, these are in this neighborhood.> > The petechaie we have all talked about at one time. Got those again too. And the freakles. This is the same that I experienced the last time. The glass like feeling in the hands. The white specks that pop out of your pores. Biting, crawling, itching. Black specks.> > The problem with submitting samples from the skin is that when taken, usually the body is all that can

be seen. Mites are the first cousin to ticks. So when they bite, they also inject an enzyme which forms a pore in which the mite can feed from. That means burying their head, just like a tick. I think a lot of times, when we feel them, we swipe or scratch, and hence the body comes off easily, but the head stays, just like if you take a tick out wrong. And the legs are very delicate and also get broken off. Hence, the doctor looks at your skin, the bites, the histamine reaction, and the advancement of the bites, and diagnoses scabies, but they are not. And because they are so tiny, by the time you display the scabies like symptoms, which doesn't take long at all, but literally in the span of a very short time, you have tens of thousands of these things biting. Since the first appearance of these things on our window sills, that time frame> is one month.> > Reading this last paragraph, I

want to make sure everyone understands, this has been my own experience.> > I need to go look at the fourth picture. Please take care Jo.> > Frito> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: jo_btc <jo_btc@...>> bird mites> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 8:21:27 PM> Subject: Re: Identified> > > Hello Frito, > I just saw your slide show and I would like to know what the extermintor said they are? About the 4th slide is what I am having in my house, me and my vehicle? I cant get anyone to believe me that they are alive. I was diagnosed having scabies but I know that if I can see these things, it is not scabies. > God bless

you>

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May 5, 2010 07:21:47 AM, bird mites wrote:

> I would be interested in knowing where you get the products for your skin and how much to mix. Thanks chris>

Z,

You inquired as to whether others in my household are affected. I have >one son left in the household and it would seem this time around, he is the one >more affected than I am.

How did I get rid of them internally/externally the first time around? >That was a hell of a struggle and now looking back, I didn't do that very well. >I was unable to get my environment like I should of in the beginning. This >infestation versus the previous. I am sure of the sheer numbers and their >size makes them dangerous. Previously, I had a three level home, huge and >full of stuff. Since then, I can't tell you things I have thrown out, and >this time, my living situation, my home, was much simplier to address. As >far as internally, that would be another post as it did entail quite a bit of work.

Are you being bitten relentlessly? Please address your environment. >This time around, with this huge spray we went through, it immendiately addressed >the sheer numbers. We didn't experience the frenzy like we did previously.

To kill them on my skin, bring them up out of the pores and the skin, I used >MSM, Borax solute, and gentian violet. This is a mix I had come up with, and >seems to address specifically, the mites, the bacteria, the fungus associated with >them, and is a broad spectrum. The MSM is a catalyst for the GV and Borax. >These don't penetrate the dermal layer in the quantities I use, so I use the MSM >as a carrier, catalyst, skin penetrant. MSM is one of the chemical components >to DMSO. I chose MSM over DMSO for the obvious smell and taste factor. >DMSO I think some of you may be familar with, as you use it as an activator and >a catalyst for dermal application of MMS. MSM is capable of the same thing. >The borax will poison whatever is hatched, it kills mycoplasma, and is a broad spectrum >antifungal and antibacterial. The gentian violet, the same. I don't >use enough in the mix to stain my skin purple. This stuff works, it softens >the skin, heals the skin, kills the mites, addresses mycoplasma, fungus, and on. >The healing takes place from the inside out. The skin will flake. I >use vitamin c homeade lotion to keep it hydrated. It doesn't have to be to >complicated. You can get a natural skin lotion from wherever you choose. >I crush my own vitamin c, and add it.

You know you said I learned so much the first time, I did, but it has taken >a second time to quit questioning myself so much. There are many things that >have been similar as the previous experience. But there have been many ways >that are not either. I think with a second go around here, I just may have >some more to learn.

Frito

>

From: Zoe >bird mites >Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 11:49:41 PM>Subject: Re: Identified>>

>Frito,>>I'm so glad you were able to get an ID. They sound/look exactly like what we >had starting ~14-months ago. Now we don't see any mites anymore, but still get the >bites/prickles. Are others in your house affected too? How did you get rid of them >internally/external ly the first time around? You must have learned so much the >first time through in dealing with this.>>Sending you lots of healing thoughts,>>z3>>>>> Hi Jo,>> >> The exterminator identified birdmites. On Monday, the Kansas State >Entomology Unit confirmed D. Gallinae. I am still referring back and forth >with them, as I believe there are two different types. Waiting for the final >word.>> >> Just an FYI, the samples I was able to get, these didn't move either. >But once you get them under the scope, you can only then see them move. And >this was on tape. And, they do burrow into the skin. I don't care what >the experts say, they are wrong. And it does look like scabies, but it isn't.>> >> Some observations for all. This is now the second infestation I have >experienced. I live about a mile and a half from the first location. >So, these are in this neighborhood.>> >> The petechaie we have all talked about at one time. Got those again >too. And the freakles. This is the same that I experienced the last >time. The glass like feeling in the hands. The white specks that pop >out of your pores. Biting, crawling, itching. Black specks.>> >> The problem with submitting samples from the skin is that when taken, usually >the body is all that can be seen. Mites are the first cousin to ticks. >So when they bite, they also inject an enzyme which forms a pore in which the mite >can feed from. That means burying their head, just like a tick. I think >a lot of times, when we feel them, we swipe or scratch, and hence the body comes >off easily, but the head stays, just like if you take a tick out wrong. And >the legs are very delicate and also get broken off. Hence, the doctor looks >at your skin, the bites, the histamine reaction, and the advancement of the bites, >and diagnoses scabies, but they are not. And because they are so tiny, by >the time you display the scabies like symptoms, which doesn't take long at all, >but literally in the span of a very short time, you have tens of thousands of these >things biting. Since the first appearance of these things on our window sills, >that time frame>> is one month.>> >> Reading this last paragraph, I want to make sure everyone understands, >this has been my own experience.>> >> I need to go look at the fourth picture. Please take care Jo.>> >> Frito>> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ __>> From: jo_btc >> >target="_blank" class=" parsedEmail">bird mites>> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 8:21:27 PM>> Subject: Re: Identified>> >> >> Hello Frito, >> I just saw your slide show and I would like to know what the extermintor >said they are? About the 4th slide is what I am having in my house, me and my vehicle? >I cant get anyone to believe me that they are alive. I was diagnosed having scabies >but I know that if I can see these things, it is not scabies. >> God bless you>>>>>

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From: "ctilch@..." <ctilch@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 7:50:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Re: Identified To 1 1/2 pint of water: Use cold water as oposed to hot. Older hot water heaters and pipes, can sometimes contribute to the breeding of infectious bacteria and can also harbor fungii. I feel in my previous location, since my water heater was located near the ground zero of the flooding and subsequent mold, this may have been a complicating and contribuatory factor in

my first battle.

8 drops of Gentian Violet, 1 tsp of borax, and 1/4 tsp MSM.

No double dipping. Can put in a shampoo bottle and use as a rinse, do not rinse the solution off. Let air dry. You can treat the scalp by using a dropper of a color treating bottle, and massage into the scalp without necessarily working it into your hair. I have long, curly hair, and I don't like to dry it out.

Gentian used to be really common, even on grocery store shelves. It was and still is used on infants with thrush. It isn't that common anymore, but it is not a prescription either. I found a bottle at CVS, but that was after calling around to see if the store/pharmacy carried it. They may have to order it, but I wasn't willing to wait for an order.

CAUTION: Gentian Violet is purple. Do not get it on your skin or clothing, as it will stain at full strength. If you happen to dribble it on your counter, spray bleach on the spot and it will come out. Let the bleach sit on the spot.

If your bottle was like mine, you will find there isn't a dropper that comes with it. I take the wand and dip it into my water eight times.

If you doubt you have done the mix right, test a small area on your skin to see if it stains. The mix I have outlined, should not stain the skin, but should address the bacteria and fungii the mites leave behind. The borax will kill the mites directly, and also help in drying and killing the eggs. If and when they do hatch, these will also be poisoned. Borax is also considered a broad spectrum anti bacterial and anti fungal. The MSM is the catalyst, it is what will transport the GV and borax deeper into the dermis where these mites are capable of penetrating using the hair follicles.

It is this mix, that healed my two year lesion from hell.

It is important to support skin healing. Use moisturizer, but please keep in mind, you have MSM on your skin, and it is the transporter, so whatever lotion and its components, will also be carried across the skin. I use sesame oil and vit c powder, and I also have a vit c face moisturizer.

Oh, MSM can be had anywhere. You can find it locally at Whole Foods, or online for better pricing. Lasts forever.

Frito

_______________________________________________________________________May 5, 2010 07:21:47 AM, bird mites wrote:

I would be interested in knowing where you get the products for your skin and how much to mix. Thanks chris

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