Re: Re: Best Products for Mite Killing

April 23, 2010

Hi , I have been on this site in the past, I keep up with the posts and keep from commenting as there seems to be a whole new and cohesive group now.

You are the only one that describes 'those things' as close to the ones I am seeing, yes seeing. In the past when I explained I could see them, I got puzzled looks or comments. Now in retrospect when my hell started two and a half year ago, I felt strange things, lots of sinus infections, sudden sty's in my eyes and many other strange symptoms, then I suddenly noticed them, there were so many, gzillions everywhere and constantly hovering about me, an activity of insects you may compare with insects you see warming over garbage, decomposing bodies or animals.

Since then I am every second, every breath aware of their presence, I sucumb to sleep nowadays just defiantly as I need rest. I could only notice their 'spider-like' translucent body at first, quickly jumping, hovering, almost mimicking my every move, then later and since I travel a lot for work, I came to realize their full outline while confined in a well lit car for quite some time: these things trailing a long hair like structure, extending to both sides from their body, that structure as well is translucent and has segments of sorts, extends fully when excited and agitated or appears all curled up, when they are many together it appears as if there is a 'web' or so it seems. I tried to capture with a zoom lense of my camera, which makes it impossible as they immediatly going toward my hand that holds the camera.

Now after the first year of denial that these things go internal, I actually observe my body closer and see them rising out of the finest of natural crevices for excample the ridges of my hand and fingers, I get them out of my cuticles and fingernails, just for an example, their lightness and whisp like nature and their amazing quickness and their transluceny is what makes them hard to really notice by others , the are not interested that much in others anyways, clearly host specific to me ( there goes my delusional label , LOL), plus that long trailing hairlike thing is for anchoring and neatly blending into any fiber or my body tissue ANYWHERE. They merely BLEND into ANYTHING and multiplying like crazy, Their sensing and signaling mechanism is astounding.

I can tell these days exactly when they are hatching. I have no obvious huge bites, occassionaly like a pinpoint bite, mostly near my veins.there is strange pulsation on non-arterial sites on surfaces. I have many 'sun spots' since I have them, or like moles and when I rub them I can see them rise up. The digital microscope where most people so far only comment that they can not see any bugs, shows images of their larvae and also their long 'trail' imbedded into my tissue, EVERYWHERE.

The truly live, feed and breed on me and no one anywhere to help me. Except for some of the suggestion of this and other groups. I learned to repel them somewhat, I slowed down with the environmental maddening routine and focused on me,

I often ask myself how I could prove this to medical and entomologist establishment and I keep arriving at the same solution: Just statistically speaking by the rather numerous sufferers of similar fate it is impossible for any MD etc to say that ALL of US are delusional. My wish woudl be to round everyone together in one place and present ourselves to the medical/scientific community once and for all.

I have been thinking of paying someone, like a biology student or such to spend some time with me, maybe equipped with some magnifying equipment, gadgets but mostly time is important and if someone is really not too distracted they eventually would notice 'them', especially their fierce activity around me and my turf espcially the car in a confined place.

I know it is a long post and thank you for venting.

Marguerite

From: S <pshannon9@...>Subject: Re: Best Products for Mite Killingbird mites Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 9:57 AM

Hi--am jumping in here to give my two cents worth..I think this is everyone's struggle Bluegirl --finding what works for their particular 'mite', insect and/or stage of infection, to give some relief for an extended period of time. But here is what I think is confusing too...some people have just a mite infestation and some have a mite infestation, as a result of having morgellons-- a little more complicated here. Which is one of the reasons why I think you will find all sorts of products that work for some and not for others.I think we all need to narrow down what our main offender is and describe it as best as possible and leave it on your post. I think this will help us figure out what products to use that will kill our particular insect--this way, if our insect seems to be described by another, we can follow their environmental and

internal protocol for killing it off and not waste money on other products. Does this make sense? Can you describe the mite that you are dealing with? Or is it an insect that you can't see?It is interesting that you said the floor cleaner worked...the ingredients in this product you mentioned is Water, Ethanol (Derived from Corn), Coconut Based Surfactant, Vinegar, Lemon Essential Oil. This is what I have mixed up on my own --aside from the coconut based surfactant-- and used at times for temporary relief. If this is what works for you, you could do what I do and mix up a spray bottle of essential lemongrass and/or lemon and eucalyptus / vinegar and ethyl alcohol [ethanol], coconut oil and use this as an over all body spray. Many have just used the coconut oil and water for relief for their crawling/biting and also for the environment. For my stage / condition which was severe for a while, I couldn't use just one thing like this--had to use many

different products, rotating them."Another thing that worked for me was after washing my hair, I would putessential oils into conditioner and saturate my hair and scalp, wrap it in atowel, then in the morning rinse the conditioner out as usual. This was good when I was working because my hair would be normal, not oily or dried up with salt (read on). What REALLY works well though is epsom salts." The use of essential oils works for me too, mixed in with T tree mint conditioner, but then I wrap my head by putting on an open ended veggie bag from the grocery store ! LOL Reason being is that I have morgellons and I have dealt with the fibers / part of this infection that uses cotton for nutrients. Makes sense about the Epsom

salts though and keep forgetting to try that.Other products that I have found for my head I will give you more details on later if you want: Yes to Carrots Mud Mask for hair and scalp, though pricey for how often I need to use it / fungicure with essential oils, s antidandruff sulphur shampoo, B peroxide.For the environment- -and I think I have tried them all--what works the best for me right now is spraying alcohol, then after it dries, going back and spraying with an enzyme spray like safe2use. The orange products and orange guard worked for me with some insects, but it left a sticky residue and did not seem to work on the biggest offender for me which I will try to describe:The main insect/mite I am dealing with seems to be connected with a very fine spider type of web. I have seen all sorts of bugs on my car top, including a tiny red mite, scurrying along the edge of my car door. But this one that really bothers me

may not be a mite at all because even though I have crawling symptoms, this particular 'lint' type of bug is airborne and goes right to my back, ears and head. I see this rise up in a frenzy when I spray my head [only seen under bright lighting] and it is narrow, oblong about 1/8th of an in, with a slightly larger round head area and a tapered sharp tail end. It also glimmers... illuminates which you can see only under well lit conditions. I get this landing on me whenever I am near this webbing and in an environment that I have lived in for a while--so like others, this is still an insect / phenomenon that I have yet to figure out.In regard to all general insect infestations involving the body, from what I have gathered from people who have gone into remission, the main winners seem to be MSM internally and sulphur products externally[haven' t done this long enough to see an effect yet, so still am trying this while still using my

other concoctions] and at the same time, detoxing and getting rid of the fungus that we must be harboring.The one thing that I think all these insects have in common is that they are carrying a different DNA from being exposed to agrobacterium. Has anyone seen the video from the Texas conference explaining the involvement of ticks and other insects carrying agrobacterium?March Conference in Texas March Conference in Texas Hope this helps,Pdidit>> I have been reading about all the different products that kill mites,> and I wanted to see if everyone could share what has worked best for>

them.> > Sorry if this has been done before, but I'm relatively new here and I've> been too messed up to barely write, let alone do a mega search to find> them.> > I do know that Lynn recommends Echo Orange.. I somehow fail to find it> online. Is that the correct spelling of it? I found Ecos, But not "Echo"> so I'm not sure if that's a product maybe from overseas? I'm in the US> by the way. Would you mind sharing an URL for it?> > I wanted to share that I have tried several different products and one> that has worked very well has been Dr Bronner's Sal Suds. It will kill> the mites at first contact.> > I was very disappointed with Orange Guard. I applied Orange Guard to> some creases, and nothing happened. Then I applied Sad Suds from Dr.> Bronners on the same creases, and the mites died on the spot. That was> disappointing

considering Sal Suds is a soap while Orange Guard is truly> an insecticide, expensive and supposed to kill on the spot.> > Then one that worked equally or even better than Bronners Sal Suds was> the floor cleaner from earth friendly products. That killed everything> on the spot. No time to make a last move, lol.> > As for mites in my body, I use both, Dr. Bronners (I just finished the> mint and now I'm doing eucalyptus), both feel VERY strong, so much that> my eyes hurt when I wash my face.. I use those as shampoo and body wash.> But that's not all. After that, I apply baking soda and sea salt. Then> after that, I apply Denorex medicated. I try to leave the whole thing in> my head as long as I can.> > But the disappointing thing is that once finished, the bastards in my> scalp are still there.. how could they not die with the whole mix? Do>

they have a special place to hide? I Try to do my body at the same time> that the whole mix is still in my head so they can't run and hide in a> free area.. but still.> > If anyone could share your products and maybe use a URL so it's easier> to find, I'd appreciate it.> > Here's the ones that worked great for me:> > These two killed on the spot, the floor cleaner slightly better, but> bronner's sal suds was great as well.> > Earth Friendly Floor Cleaner> <http://www.amazon. com/Earth- Friendly- Products- Laminate- Hardwood/ dp/B000\> 0DAIP4/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=home-garden & qid=1271914322 & sr=8-1-spell>> > Dr Bronner's Sal Suds> <http://www.amazon. com/Dr-Bronners- Suds-32-Ounce- Bottles/dp/ B001F0RBRE/ r\> ef=sr_1_1?ie= UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1271914396 & sr=8-1-catcorr>> > This one was a

joke (orange guard)> > Orange Guard <Orange%20Guard>> > I sprayed almost 1/2 a bottle at one of those flying insects that> entered my room. It did ZERO to it. The mites probably laughed when they> got it. I had to use Raid to finally kill the flying thing, and the> mites died when I applied bronners sal suds, AFTER orange guard had done> nothing to them.> > Sad and expensive. What a waste of my money, it was around $10 bucks and> it never killed a thing. I bet not even a fly would die from it.> > Please share your products, thanks..>

April 23, 2010

In science we are taught the most easiest reason is the logical. I think it is

the same here. We all have m.

On Fri Apr 23rd, 2010 12:57 PM EDT S wrote:

> Hi--am jumping in here to give my two cents worth..

>

>I think this is everyone's struggle Bluegirl --finding what works for

>their particular 'mite', insect and/or stage of infection, to give some

>relief for an extended period of time. But here is what I think is

>confusing too...some people have just a mite infestation and some have a

>mite infestation, as a result of having morgellons-- a little more

>complicated here. Which is one of the reasons why I think you will find

>all sorts of products that work for some and not for others.

>

>I think we all need to narrow down what our main offender is and

>describe it as best as possible and leave it on your post. I think this

>will help us figure out what products to use that will kill our

>particular insect--this way, if our insect seems to be described by

>another, we can follow their environmental and internal protocol for

>killing it off and not waste money on other products. Does this make

>sense? Can you describe the mite that you are dealing with? Or is it an

>insect that you can't see?

>

>It is interesting that you said the floor cleaner worked...the

>ingredients in this product you mentioned is Water, Ethanol (Derived

>from Corn), Coconut Based Surfactant, Vinegar, Lemon Essential Oil. This

>is what I have mixed up on my own --aside from the coconut based

>surfactant--and used at times for temporary relief. If this is what

>works for you, you could do what I do and mix up a spray bottle of

>essential lemongrass and/or lemon and eucalyptus / vinegar and ethyl

>alcohol [ethanol], coconut oil and use this as an over all body spray.

>Many have just used the coconut oil and water for relief for their

>crawling/biting and also for the environment. For my stage / condition

>which was severe for a while, I couldn't use just one thing like

>this--had to use many different products, rotating them.

>

> " Another thing that worked for me was after washing my hair, I would put

>essential oils into conditioner and saturate my hair and scalp, wrap it

>in a

>towel, then in the morning rinse the conditioner out as usual. This was

>good when I was working because my hair would be normal, not oily or

>dried up with salt (read on). What REALLY works well though is epsom

>salts. " The use of essential oils works for me too, mixed in with T tree

>mint conditioner, but then I wrap my head by putting on an open ended

>veggie bag from the grocery store ! LOL Reason being is that I have

>morgellons and I have dealt with the fibers / part of this infection

>that uses cotton for nutrients. Makes sense about the Epsom salts though

>and keep forgetting to try that.

>

>Other products that I have found for my head I will give you more

>details on later if you want: Yes to Carrots Mud Mask for hair and

>scalp, though pricey for how often I need to use it / fungicure with

>essential oils, s antidandruff sulphur shampoo, B peroxide.

>

>For the environment--and I think I have tried them all--what works the

>best for me right now is spraying alcohol, then after it dries, going

>back and spraying with an enzyme spray like safe2use. The orange

>products and orange guard worked for me with some insects, but it left a

>sticky residue and did not seem to work on the biggest offender for me

>which I will try to describe:

>

>The main insect/mite I am dealing with seems to be connected with a very

>fine spider type of web. I have seen all sorts of bugs on my car top,

>including a tiny red mite, scurrying along the edge of my car door. But

>this one that really bothers me may not be a mite at all because even

>though I have crawling symptoms, this particular 'lint' type of bug is

>airborne and goes right to my back, ears and head. I see this rise up in

>a frenzy when I spray my head [only seen under bright lighting] and it

>is narrow, oblong about 1/8th of an in, with a slightly larger round

>head area and a tapered sharp tail end. It also glimmers... illuminates

>which you can see only under well lit conditions. I get this landing on

>me whenever I am near this webbing and in an environment that I have

>lived in for a while--so like others, this is still an insect /

>phenomenon that I have yet to figure out.

>

>In regard to all general insect infestations involving the body, from

>what I have gathered from people who have gone into remission, the main

>winners seem to be MSM internally and sulphur products

>externally[haven't done this long enough to see an effect yet, so still

>am trying this while still using my other concoctions] and at the same

>time, detoxing and getting rid of the fungus that we must be harboring.

>

>The one thing that I think all these insects have in common is that they

>are carrying a different DNA from being exposed to agrobacterium. Has

>anyone seen the video from the Texas conference explaining the

>involvement of ticks and other insects carrying agrobacterium?

>

>March Conference in Texas

>

>March Conference in Texas

><http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630522503877684917 & q=source:01\

>1032560121244491606 & hl=en#>

>

>Hope this helps,

>Pdidit

>

>>

>> I have been reading about all the different products that kill mites,

>> and I wanted to see if everyone could share what has worked best for

>> them.

>>

>> Sorry if this has been done before, but I'm relatively new here and

>I've

>> been too messed up to barely write, let alone do a mega search to find

>> them.

>>

>> I do know that Lynn recommends Echo Orange.. I somehow fail to find it

>> online. Is that the correct spelling of it? I found Ecos, But not

> " Echo "

>> so I'm not sure if that's a product maybe from overseas? I'm in the US

>> by the way. Would you mind sharing an URL for it?

>>

>> I wanted to share that I have tried several different products and one

>> that has worked very well has been Dr Bronner's Sal Suds. It will kill

>> the mites at first contact.

>>

>> I was very disappointed with Orange Guard. I applied Orange Guard to

>> some creases, and nothing happened. Then I applied Sad Suds from Dr.

>> Bronners on the same creases, and the mites died on the spot. That was

>> disappointing considering Sal Suds is a soap while Orange Guard is

>truly

>> an insecticide, expensive and supposed to kill on the spot.

>>

>> Then one that worked equally or even better than Bronners Sal Suds was

>> the floor cleaner from earth friendly products. That killed everything

>> on the spot. No time to make a last move, lol.

>>

>> As for mites in my body, I use both, Dr. Bronners (I just finished the

>> mint and now I'm doing eucalyptus), both feel VERY strong, so much

>that

>> my eyes hurt when I wash my face.. I use those as shampoo and body

>wash.

>> But that's not all. After that, I apply baking soda and sea salt. Then

>> after that, I apply Denorex medicated. I try to leave the whole thing

>in

>> my head as long as I can.

>>

>> But the disappointing thing is that once finished, the bastards in my

>> scalp are still there.. how could they not die with the whole mix? Do

>> they have a special place to hide? I Try to do my body at the same

>time

>> that the whole mix is still in my head so they can't run and hide in a

>> free area.. but still.

>>

>> If anyone could share your products and maybe use a URL so it's easier

>> to find, I'd appreciate it.

>>

>> Here's the ones that worked great for me:

>>

>> These two killed on the spot, the floor cleaner slightly better, but

>> bronner's sal suds was great as well.

>>

>> Earth Friendly Floor Cleaner

>>

><http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Friendly-Products-Laminate-Hardwood/dp/B000\

>\

>> 0DAIP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=home-garden & qid=1271914322 & sr=8-1-spell>

>>

>> Dr Bronner's Sal Suds

>>

><http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Bronners-Suds-32-Ounce-Bottles/dp/B001F0RBRE/r\

>\

>> ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1271914396 & sr=8-1-catcorr>

>>

>> This one was a joke (orange guard)

>>

>> Orange Guard <Orange%20Guard>

>>

>> I sprayed almost 1/2 a bottle at one of those flying insects that

>> entered my room. It did ZERO to it. The mites probably laughed when

>they

>> got it. I had to use Raid to finally kill the flying thing, and the

>> mites died when I applied bronners sal suds, AFTER orange guard had

>done

>> nothing to them.

>>

>> Sad and expensive. What a waste of my money, it was around $10 bucks

>and

>> it never killed a thing. I bet not even a fly would die from it.

>>

>> Please share your products, thanks..

>>

>

April 23, 2010

HI

Margaurite

Good to see you , I have miissed you & wondered where you are.

I feel all that you are talking about . I once read a post by a blind man , he

says he feels a flea junping at his ankles , but it can fly , it spins a web

like thread on his face .. He asked how do I stop it .

It is all the same bug. God will help he is onmipotant ( really big : ) .

....) & he is Love , never is there a minute he dosnt see you or anyof us ..

Write back soon ..ok ? ,

Bill

On Sat Apr 24th, 2010 1:20 AM EDT Marguerite wrote:

>Hi , I have been on this site in the past, I keep up with the posts and

keep from commenting as there seems to be a whole new and cohesive group now.

>

>You are the only one that describes 'those things' as close to the ones I am

seeing, yes seeing. In the past when I explained I could see them, I got puzzled

looks or comments. Now in retrospect when my hell started two and a half year

ago, I felt strange things, lots of sinus infections, sudden sty's in my eyes

and many other strange symptoms, then I suddenly noticed them, there were so

many, gzillions everywhere and constantly hovering about me, an activity of

insects you may compare with insects you see warming over garbage, decomposing

bodies or animals.

>

>Since then I am every second, every breath aware of their presence, I sucumb to

sleep nowadays just defiantly as I need rest. I could only notice their

'spider-like' translucent body at first, quickly jumping, hovering, almost

mimicking my every move, then later and since I travel a lot for work, I came to

realize their full outline while confined in a well lit car for quite some time:

these things trailing a long hair like structure, extending to both sides from

their body, that structure as well is translucent and has segments of sorts,

extends fully when excited and agitated or appears all curled up, when they are

many together it appears as if there is a 'web' or so it seems. I tried to

capture with a zoom lense of my camera, which makes it impossible as they

immediatly going toward my hand that holds the camera.

>

>Now after the first year of denial that these things go internal, I actually

observe my body closer and see them rising out of the finest of natural crevices

for excample the ridges of my hand and fingers, I get them out of my cuticles

and fingernails, just for an example, their lightness and whisp like nature and

their amazing quickness and their transluceny is what makes them hard to really

notice by others , the are not interested that much in others anyways, clearly

host specific to me ( there goes my delusional label , LOL), plus that

long trailing hairlike thing is for anchoring and neatly blending into any fiber

or my body tissue ANYWHERE. They merely BLEND into ANYTHING and multiplying like

crazy, Their sensing and signaling mechanism is astounding.

>

>I can tell these days exactly when they are hatching. I have no obvious huge

bites, occassionaly like a pinpoint bite, mostly near my veins.there is strange

pulsation on non-arterial sites on surfaces. I have many 'sun spots' since I

have them, or like moles and when I rub them I can see them rise up. The digital

microscope where most people so far only comment that they can not see any bugs,

shows images of their larvae and also their long 'trail' imbedded into my

tissue, EVERYWHERE.

>

>The truly live, feed and breed on me and no one anywhere to help me. Except for

some of the suggestion of this and other groups. I learned to repel them

somewhat, I slowed down with the environmental maddening routine and focused on

me,

>

>I often ask myself how I could prove this to medical and entomologist

establishment and I keep arriving at the same solution: Just statistically

speaking by the rather numerous sufferers of similar fate it is impossible for

any MD etc to say that ALL of US are delusional. My wish woudl be to round

everyone together in one place and present ourselves to the medical/scientific

community once and for all.

>

>I have been thinking of paying someone, like a biology student or such to spend

some time with me, maybe equipped with some magnifying equipment, gadgets but

mostly time is important and if someone is really not too distracted they

eventually would notice 'them', especially their fierce activity around me and

my turf espcially the car in a confined place.

>

>I know it is a long post and thank you for venting.

>

>Marguerite

>

>From: S <pshannon9@...>

>Subject: Re: Best Products for Mite Killing

>bird mites

>Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 9:57 AM

>

> Hi--am jumping in here to give my two cents worth..

>

>I think this is everyone's struggle Bluegirl --finding what works for their

particular 'mite', insect and/or stage of infection, to give some relief for an

extended period of time. But here is what I think is confusing too...some people

have just a mite infestation and some have a mite infestation, as a result of

having morgellons-- a little more complicated here. Which is one of the reasons

why I think you will find all sorts of products that work for some and not for

others.

>

>I think we all need to narrow down what our main offender is and describe it as

best as possible and leave it on your post. I think this will help us figure out

what products to use that will kill our particular insect--this way, if our

insect seems to be described by another, we can follow their environmental and

internal protocol for killing it off and not waste money on other products. Does

this make sense? Can you describe the mite that you are dealing with? Or is it

an insect that you can't see?

>

>It is interesting that you said the floor cleaner worked...the ingredients in

this product you mentioned is Water, Ethanol (Derived from Corn), Coconut Based

Surfactant, Vinegar, Lemon Essential Oil. This is what I have mixed up on my own

--aside from the coconut based surfactant-- and used at times for temporary

relief. If this is what works for you, you could do what I do and mix up a spray

bottle of essential lemongrass and/or lemon and eucalyptus / vinegar and ethyl

alcohol [ethanol], coconut oil and use this as an over all body spray. Many have

just used the coconut oil and water for relief for their crawling/biting and

also for the environment. For my stage / condition which was severe for a while,

I couldn't use just one thing like this--had to use many different products,

rotating them.

>

> " Another thing that worked for me was after washing my hair, I would put

>essential oils into conditioner and saturate my hair and scalp, wrap it in a

>towel, then in the morning rinse the conditioner out as usual. This was good

when I was working because my hair would be normal, not oily or dried up with

salt (read on). What REALLY works well though is epsom salts. " The use of

essential oils works for me too, mixed in with T tree mint conditioner, but then

I wrap my head by putting on an open ended veggie bag from the grocery store !

LOL Reason being is that I have morgellons and I have dealt with the fibers /

part of this infection that uses cotton for nutrients. Makes sense about the

Epsom salts though and keep forgetting to try that.

>

>Other products that I have found for my head I will give you more details on

later if you want: Yes to Carrots Mud Mask for hair and scalp, though pricey for

how often I need to use it / fungicure with essential oils, s antidandruff

sulphur shampoo, B peroxide.

>

>For the environment- -and I think I have tried them all--what works the best

for me right now is spraying alcohol, then after it dries, going back and

spraying with an enzyme spray like safe2use. The orange products and orange

guard worked for me with some insects, but it left a sticky residue and did not

seem to work on the biggest offender for me which I will try to describe:

>

>The main insect/mite I am dealing with seems to be connected with a very fine

spider type of web. I have seen all sorts of bugs on my car top, including a

tiny red mite, scurrying along the edge of my car door. But this one that really

bothers me may not be a mite at all because even though I have crawling

symptoms, this particular 'lint' type of bug is airborne and goes right to my

back, ears and head. I see this rise up in a frenzy when I spray my head [only

seen under bright lighting] and it is narrow, oblong about 1/8th of an in, with

a slightly larger round head area and a tapered sharp tail end. It also

glimmers... illuminates which you can see only under well lit conditions. I get

this landing on me whenever I am near this webbing and in an environment that I

have lived in for a while--so like others, this is still an insect / phenomenon

that I have yet to figure out.

>

>In regard to all general insect infestations involving the body, from what I

have gathered from people who have gone into remission, the main winners seem

to be MSM internally and sulphur products externally[haven' t done this long

enough to see an effect yet, so still am trying this while still using my other

concoctions] and at the same time, detoxing and getting rid of the fungus that

we must be harboring.

>

>The one thing that I think all these insects have in common is that they are

carrying a different DNA from being exposed to agrobacterium. Has anyone seen

the video from the Texas conference explaining the involvement of ticks and

other insects carrying agrobacterium?

>

>March Conference in Texas

>

>March Conference in Texas

>

>Hope this helps,

>Pdidit

>

>>

>> I have been reading about all the different products that kill mites,

>> and I wanted to see if everyone could share what has worked best for

>> them.

>>

>> Sorry if this has been done before, but I'm relatively new here and I've

>> been too messed up to barely write, let alone do a mega search to find

>> them.

>>

>> I do know that Lynn recommends Echo Orange.. I somehow fail to find it

>> online. Is that the correct spelling of it? I found Ecos, But not " Echo "

>> so I'm not sure if that's a product maybe from overseas? I'm in the US

>> by the way. Would you mind sharing an URL for it?

>>

>> I wanted to share that I have tried several different products and one

>> that has worked very well has been Dr Bronner's Sal Suds. It will kill

>> the mites at first contact.

>>

>> I was very disappointed with Orange Guard. I applied Orange Guard to

>> some creases, and nothing happened. Then I applied Sad Suds from Dr.

>> Bronners on the same creases, and the mites died on the spot. That was

>> disappointing considering Sal Suds is a soap while Orange Guard is truly

>> an insecticide, expensive and supposed to kill on the spot.

>>

>> Then one that worked equally or even better than Bronners Sal Suds was

>> the floor cleaner from earth friendly products. That killed everything

>> on the spot. No time to make a last move, lol.

>>

>> As for mites in my body, I use both, Dr. Bronners (I just finished the

>> mint and now I'm doing eucalyptus), both feel VERY strong, so much that

>> my eyes hurt when I wash my face.. I use those as shampoo and body wash.

>> But that's not all. After that, I apply baking soda and sea salt. Then

>> after that, I apply Denorex medicated. I try to leave the whole thing in

>> my head as long as I can.

>>

>> But the disappointing thing is that once finished, the bastards in my

>> scalp are still there.. how could they not die with the whole mix? Do

>> they have a special place to hide? I Try to do my body at the same time

>> that the whole mix is still in my head so they can't run and hide in a

>> free area.. but still.

>>

>> If anyone could share your products and maybe use a URL so it's easier

>> to find, I'd appreciate it.

>>

>> Here's the ones that worked great for me:

>>

>> These two killed on the spot, the floor cleaner slightly better, but

>> bronner's sal suds was great as well.

>>

>> Earth Friendly Floor Cleaner

>> <http://www.amazon. com/Earth- Friendly- Products- Laminate- Hardwood/

dp/B000\

>> 0DAIP4/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=home-garden & qid=1271914322 & sr=8-1-spell>

>>

>> Dr Bronner's Sal Suds

>> <http://www.amazon. com/Dr-Bronners- Suds-32-Ounce- Bottles/dp/ B001F0RBRE/

r\

>> ef=sr_1_1?ie= UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1271914396 & sr=8-1-catcorr>

>>

>> This one was a joke (orange guard)

>>

>> Orange Guard <Orange%20Guard>

>>

>> I sprayed almost 1/2 a bottle at one of those flying insects that

>> entered my room. It did ZERO to it. The mites probably laughed when they

>> got it. I had to use Raid to finally kill the flying thing, and the

>> mites died when I applied bronners sal suds, AFTER orange guard had done

>> nothing to them.

>>

>> Sad and expensive. What a waste of my money, it was around $10 bucks and

>> it never killed a thing. I bet not even a fly would die from it.

>>

>> Please share your products, thanks..

>>

>

April 23, 2010

Thank you so much, Bill !>>>From: S <pshannon9comcast (DOT) net>>Subject: Re: Best Products for Mite Killing>bird mites>Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 9:57 AM>>> >>>> Hi--am jumping in here to give my two cents worth..>>I think this is everyone's struggle Bluegirl --finding what works for their particular 'mite', insect

and/or stage of infection, to give some relief for an extended period of time. But here is what I think is confusing too...some people have just a mite infestation and some have a mite infestation, as a result of having morgellons-- a little more complicated here. Which is one of the reasons why I think you will find all sorts of products that work for some and not for others.>>I think we all need to narrow down what our main offender is and describe it as best as possible and leave it on your post. I think this will help us figure out what products to use that will kill our particular insect--this way, if our insect seems to be described by another, we can follow their environmental and internal protocol for killing it off and not waste money on other products. Does this make sense? Can you describe the mite that you are dealing with? Or is it an insect that you can't see?>>It is interesting that you said the floor cleaner

worked...the ingredients in this product you mentioned is Water, Ethanol (Derived from Corn), Coconut Based Surfactant, Vinegar, Lemon Essential Oil. This is what I have mixed up on my own --aside from the coconut based surfactant-- and used at times for temporary relief. If this is what works for you, you could do what I do and mix up a spray bottle of essential lemongrass and/or lemon and eucalyptus / vinegar and ethyl alcohol [ethanol], coconut oil and use this as an over all body spray. Many have just used the coconut oil and water for relief for their crawling/biting and also for the environment. For my stage / condition which was severe for a while, I couldn't use just one thing like this--had to use many different products, rotating them.>>"Another thing that worked for me was after washing my hair, I would put>essential oils into conditioner and saturate my hair and scalp, wrap it in a>towel, then in the morning rinse

the conditioner out as usual. This was good when I was working because my hair would be normal, not oily or dried up with salt (read on). What REALLY works well though is epsom salts." The use of essential oils works for me too, mixed in with T tree mint conditioner, but then I wrap my head by putting on an open ended veggie bag from the grocery store ! LOL Reason being is that I have morgellons and I have dealt with the fibers / part of this infection that uses cotton for nutrients. Makes sense about the Epsom salts though and keep forgetting to try that.>>Other products that I have found for my head I will give you more details on later if you want: Yes to Carrots Mud Mask for hair and scalp, though pricey for how often I need to use it / fungicure with essential oils, s antidandruff sulphur shampoo, B peroxide.>>For the environment- -and I think I have tried them all--what works the best for me right now

is spraying alcohol, then after it dries, going back and spraying with an enzyme spray like safe2use. The orange products and orange guard worked for me with some insects, but it left a sticky residue and did not seem to work on the biggest offender for me which I will try to describe:>>The main insect/mite I am dealing with seems to be connected with a very fine spider type of web. I have seen all sorts of bugs on my car top, including a tiny red mite, scurrying along the edge of my car door. But this one that really bothers me may not be a mite at all because even though I have crawling symptoms, this particular 'lint' type of bug is airborne and goes right to my back, ears and head. I see this rise up in a frenzy when I spray my head [only seen under bright lighting] and it is narrow, oblong about 1/8th of an in, with a slightly larger round head area and a tapered sharp tail end. It also glimmers... illuminates which you can see only

under well lit conditions. I get this landing on me whenever I am near this webbing and in an environment that I have lived in for a while--so like others, this is still an insect / phenomenon that I have yet to figure out.>>In regard to all general insect infestations involving the body, from what I have gathered from people who have gone into remission, the main winners seem to be MSM internally and sulphur products externally[haven' t done this long enough to see an effect yet, so still am trying this while still using my other concoctions] and at the same time, detoxing and getting rid of the fungus that we must be harboring.>>The one thing that I think all these insects have in common is that they are carrying a different DNA from being exposed to agrobacterium. Has anyone seen the video from the Texas conference explaining the involvement of ticks and other insects carrying

agrobacterium?>>March Conference in Texas >>March Conference in Texas >>>Hope this helps,>Pdidit>>>>>> I have been reading about all the different products that kill mites,>> and I wanted to see if everyone could share what has worked best for>> them.>> >> Sorry if this has been done before, but I'm relatively new here and I've>> been too messed up to barely write, let alone do a mega search to find>> them.>> >> I do know that Lynn recommends Echo Orange.. I somehow fail to find it>> online. Is that the correct spelling of it? I found Ecos, But not "Echo">> so I'm not sure if that's a product maybe from overseas? I'm in the US>> by the way. Would you mind sharing an URL

for it?>> >> I wanted to share that I have tried several different products and one>> that has worked very well has been Dr Bronner's Sal Suds. It will kill>> the mites at first contact.>> >> I was very disappointed with Orange Guard. I applied Orange Guard to>> some creases, and nothing happened. Then I applied Sad Suds from Dr.>> Bronners on the same creases, and the mites died on the spot. That was>> disappointing considering Sal Suds is a soap while Orange Guard is truly>> an insecticide, expensive and supposed to kill on the spot.>> >> Then one that worked equally or even better than Bronners Sal Suds was>> the floor cleaner from earth friendly products. That killed everything>> on the spot. No time to make a last move, lol.>> >> As for mites in my body, I use both, Dr. Bronners (I just

finished the>> mint and now I'm doing eucalyptus), both feel VERY strong, so much that>> my eyes hurt when I wash my face.. I use those as shampoo and body wash.>> But that's not all. After that, I apply baking soda and sea salt. Then>> after that, I apply Denorex medicated. I try to leave the whole thing in>> my head as long as I can.>> >> But the disappointing thing is that once finished, the bastards in my>> scalp are still there.. how could they not die with the whole mix? Do>> they have a special place to hide? I Try to do my body at the same time>> that the whole mix is still in my head so they can't run and hide in a>> free area.. but still.>> >> If anyone could share your products and maybe use a URL so it's easier>> to find, I'd appreciate it.>> >> Here's the ones that worked great for

me:>> >> These two killed on the spot, the floor cleaner slightly better, but>> bronner's sal suds was great as well.>> >> Earth Friendly Floor Cleaner>> <http://www.amazon. com/Earth- Friendly- Products- Laminate- Hardwood/ dp/B000\>> 0DAIP4/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=home-garden & qid=1271914322 & sr=8-1-spell>>> >> Dr Bronner's Sal Suds>> <http://www.amazon. com/Dr-Bronners- Suds-32-Ounce- Bottles/dp/ B001F0RBRE/ r\>> ef=sr_1_1?ie= UTF8 & s=hpc & qid= 1271914396 & sr=8-1-catcorr>>> >> This one was a joke (orange guard)>> >> Orange Guard <Orange%20Guard>>> >> I sprayed almost 1/2 a bottle at one of those flying insects

that>> entered my room. It did ZERO to it. The mites probably laughed when they>> got it. I had to use Raid to finally kill the flying thing, and the>> mites died when I applied bronners sal suds, AFTER orange guard had done>> nothing to them.>> >> Sad and expensive. What a waste of my money, it was around $10 bucks and>> it never killed a thing. I bet not even a fly would die from it.>> >> Please share your products, thanks..>>>>>>>>>>>

April 24, 2010

You called me 'Bluegirl" that makes me feel like you know who I am. Yes, you are right. This may only be temporary; it may only work for me; but when Katrina Hit us, you seek any safe harbor. I am also a DES child who has suffered mightally because our beloved research doctors can just wag their heads. All this after they have made an effort to collect tissue samples at every surgery I have ever had. Needless to say i miss President Reagan, and his ability to be responsible for our scientific community, and their testing in the name of continued freedom. Please

Carol > Hi--am jumping in here to give my two cents worth..>>I think this is everyone's struggle Bluegirl --finding what works for>their particular 'mite', insect and/or stage of infection, to give some>relief for an extended period of time. But here is what I think is>confusing too...some people have just a mite infestation and some have a>mite infestation, as a result of having morgellons-- a little more>complicated here. Which is one of the reasons why I think you will find>all sorts of products that work for some and not for others.>>I think we all need to narrow down what our main offender is and>describe it as best as possible and leave it on your post. I think this>will help us figure out

what products to use that will kill our>particular insect--this way, if our insect seems to be described by>another, we can follow their environmental and internal protocol for>killing it off and not waste money on other products. Does this make>sense? Can you describe the mite that you are dealing with? Or is it an>insect that you can't see?>>It is interesting that you said the floor cleaner worked...the>ingredients in this product you mentioned is Water, Ethanol (Derived>from Corn), Coconut Based Surfactant, Vinegar, Lemon Essential Oil. This>is what I have mixed up on my own --aside from the coconut based>surfactant- -and used at times for temporary relief. If this is what>works for you, you could do what I do and mix up a spray bottle of>essential lemongrass and/or lemon and eucalyptus / vinegar and ethyl>alcohol [ethanol], coconut oil and use this as

an over all body spray.>Many have just used the coconut oil and water for relief for their>crawling/biting and also for the environment. For my stage / condition>which was severe for a while, I couldn't use just one thing like>this--had to use many different products, rotating them.>>"Another thing that worked for me was after washing my hair, I would put>essential oils into conditioner and saturate my hair and scalp, wrap it>in a>towel, then in the morning rinse the conditioner out as usual. This was>good when I was working because my hair would be normal, not oily or>dried up with salt (read on). What REALLY works well though is epsom>salts." The use of essential oils works for me too, mixed in with T tree>mint conditioner, but then I wrap my head by putting on an open ended>veggie bag from the grocery store ! LOL Reason being is that I

have>morgellons and I have dealt with the fibers / part of this infection>that uses cotton for nutrients. Makes sense about the Epsom salts though>and keep forgetting to try that.>>Other products that I have found for my head I will give you more>details on later if you want: Yes to Carrots Mud Mask for hair and>scalp, though pricey for how often I need to use it / fungicure with>essential oils, s antidandruff sulphur shampoo, B peroxide.>>For the environment- -and I think I have tried them all--what works the>best for me right now is spraying alcohol, then after it dries, going>back and spraying with an enzyme spray like safe2use. The orange>products and orange guard worked for me with some insects, but it left a>sticky residue and did not seem to work on the biggest offender for me>which I will try to describe:>>The main

insect/mite I am dealing with seems to be connected with a very>fine spider type of web. I have seen all sorts of bugs on my car top,>including a tiny red mite, scurrying along the edge of my car door. But>this one that really bothers me may not be a mite at all because even>though I have crawling symptoms, this particular 'lint' type of bug is>airborne and goes right to my back, ears and head. I see this rise up in>a frenzy when I spray my head [only seen under bright lighting] and it>is narrow, oblong about 1/8th of an in, with a slightly larger round>head area and a tapered sharp tail end. It also glimmers... illuminates>which you can see only under well lit conditions. I get this landing on>me whenever I am near this webbing and in an environment that I have>lived in for a while--so like others, this is still an insect />phenomenon that I have yet to figure

out.>>In regard to all general insect infestations involving the body, from>what I have gathered from people who have gone into remission, the main>winners seem to be MSM internally and sulphur products>externally[ haven't done this long enough to see an effect yet, so still>am trying this while still using my other concoctions] and at the same>time, detoxing and getting rid of the fungus that we must be harboring.>>The one thing that I think all these insects have in common is that they>are carrying a different DNA from being exposed to agrobacterium. Has>anyone seen the video from the Texas conference explaining the>involvement of ticks and other insects carrying agrobacterium?>>March Conference in Texas>>March Conference in Texas><http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8630522503 877684917 & q=source: 01\>103256012124449160 6 & hl=en#>>>>Hope this helps,>Pdidit>>>>>> I have been reading about all the different products that kill mites,>> and I wanted to see if everyone could share what has worked best for>> them.>>>> Sorry if this has been done before, but I'm relatively new here and>I've>> been too messed up to barely write, let alone do a mega search to find>> them.>>>> I do know that Lynn recommends Echo Orange.. I somehow fail to find

it>> online. Is that the correct spelling of it? I found Ecos, But not>"Echo">> so I'm not sure if that's a product maybe from overseas? I'm in the US>> by the way. Would you mind sharing an URL for it?>>>> I wanted to share that I have tried several different products and one>> that has worked very well has been Dr Bronner's Sal Suds. It will kill>> the mites at first contact.>>>> I was very disappointed with Orange Guard. I applied Orange Guard to>> some creases, and nothing happened. Then I applied Sad Suds from Dr.>> Bronners on the same creases, and the mites died on the spot. That was>> disappointing considering Sal Suds is a soap while Orange Guard is>truly>> an insecticide, expensive and supposed to kill on the spot.>>>> Then one that worked equally or even better than Bronners Sal

Suds was>> the floor cleaner from earth friendly products. That killed everything>> on the spot. No time to make a last move, lol.>>>> As for mites in my body, I use both, Dr. Bronners (I just finished the>> mint and now I'm doing eucalyptus), both feel VERY strong, so much>that>> my eyes hurt when I wash my face.. I use those as shampoo and body>wash.>> But that's not all. After that, I apply baking soda and sea salt. Then>> after that, I apply Denorex medicated. I try to leave the whole thing>in>> my head as long as I can.>>>> But the disappointing thing is that once finished, the bastards in my>> scalp are still there.. how could they not die with the whole mix? Do>> they have a special place to hide? I Try to do my body at the same>time>> that the whole mix is still in my head so they

can't run and hide in a>> free area.. but still.>>>> If anyone could share your products and maybe use a URL so it's easier>> to find, I'd appreciate it.>>>> Here's the ones that worked great for me:>>>> These two killed on the spot, the floor cleaner slightly better, but>> bronner's sal suds was great as well.>>>> Earth Friendly Floor Cleaner>>><http://www.amazon. com/Earth- Friendly- Products- Laminate- Hardwood/ dp/B000\>\>> 0DAIP4/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=home-garden & qid=1271914322 & sr=8-1-spell>>>>> Dr Bronner's Sal Suds>>><http://www.amazon. com/Dr-Bronners- Suds-32-Ounce- Bottles/dp/ B001F0RBRE/ r\>\>> ef=sr_1_1?ie= UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1271914396 & sr=8-1-catcorr>>>>> This one was a joke (orange guard)>>>> Orange Guard <Orange%20Guard>>>>> I sprayed almost 1/2 a bottle at one of those flying insects that>> entered my room. It did ZERO to it. The mites probably laughed when>they>> got it. I had to use Raid to finally kill the flying thing, and the>> mites died when I applied bronners sal suds, AFTER orange guard had>done>> nothing to them.>>>> Sad and expensive. What a waste of my money, it was around $10 bucks>and>> it never killed a thing. I bet not even a fly would die from it.>>>> Please share your products,

thanks..>>>

April 24, 2010

Hi

For the scalp:

I mix in an old shampoo bottle :

1 teasp arm & hammer powdered laundry soap &

1 cup of water

& leave on for 5-15 mins then rinse, this stopped all my head itchs .They were

hiding in an old scar on the back of my head . I had to do it for about 1 month

maybe every 3 days , maybe every 5 days. It is painless

2 tbls coconut oil in the bath & submerging suffacates them also I don t rinse

it off till I shampoo in the am . It leaves a film on that has stopped all

crawking for 131 days now . I have only used the cococnut water about 40 times

in those 131 days

God bless you ,

Bill

On Sat Apr 24th, 2010 10:08 AM EDT healinghope wrote:

>In regards to orange guard I have taken this outside and watched it kill

insects on contact. Everything from mites to springtails to ants.

>Looking at my bottle of orange guard is states d-Limonene(orange peel extract)

5.8% Inert ingredients 94.2%. You stated yours was 20% I have had success with

insects outside I was so close to be totally healed and still am I would not be

a good judge. But this will kill mites and springtails watched this with my own

eyes outside.

>

>>

>> I have been reading about all the different products that kill mites,

>> and I wanted to see if everyone could share what has worked best for

>> them.

>>

>> Sorry if this has been done before, but I'm relatively new here and I've

>> been too messed up to barely write, let alone do a mega search to find

>> them.

>>

>> I do know that Lynn recommends Echo Orange.. I somehow fail to find it

>> online. Is that the correct spelling of it? I found Ecos, But not " Echo "

>> so I'm not sure if that's a product maybe from overseas? I'm in the US

>> by the way. Would you mind sharing an URL for it?

>>

>> I wanted to share that I have tried several different products and one

>> that has worked very well has been Dr Bronner's Sal Suds. It will kill

>> the mites at first contact.

>>

>> I was very disappointed with Orange Guard. I applied Orange Guard to

>> some creases, and nothing happened. Then I applied Sad Suds from Dr.

>> Bronners on the same creases, and the mites died on the spot. That was

>> disappointing considering Sal Suds is a soap while Orange Guard is truly

>> an insecticide, expensive and supposed to kill on the spot.

>>

>> Then one that worked equally or even better than Bronners Sal Suds was

>> the floor cleaner from earth friendly products. That killed everything

>> on the spot. No time to make a last move, lol.

>>

>> As for mites in my body, I use both, Dr. Bronners (I just finished the

>> mint and now I'm doing eucalyptus), both feel VERY strong, so much that

>> my eyes hurt when I wash my face.. I use those as shampoo and body wash.

>> But that's not all. After that, I apply baking soda and sea salt. Then

>> after that, I apply Denorex medicated. I try to leave the whole thing in

>> my head as long as I can.

>>

>> But the disappointing thing is that once finished, the bastards in my

>> scalp are still there.. how could they not die with the whole mix? Do

>> they have a special place to hide? I Try to do my body at the same time

>> that the whole mix is still in my head so they can't run and hide in a

>> free area.. but still.

>>

>> If anyone could share your products and maybe use a URL so it's easier

>> to find, I'd appreciate it.

>>

>> Here's the ones that worked great for me:

>>

>> These two killed on the spot, the floor cleaner slightly better, but

>> bronner's sal suds was great as well.

>>

>> Earth Friendly Floor Cleaner

>> <http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Friendly-Products-Laminate-Hardwood/dp/B000\

>> 0DAIP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=home-garden & qid=1271914322 & sr=8-1-spell>

>>

>> Dr Bronner's Sal Suds

>> <http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Bronners-Suds-32-Ounce-Bottles/dp/B001F0RBRE/r\

>> ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1271914396 & sr=8-1-catcorr>

>>

>> This one was a joke (orange guard)

>>

>> Orange Guard <Orange%20Guard>

>>

>> I sprayed almost 1/2 a bottle at one of those flying insects that

>> entered my room. It did ZERO to it. The mites probably laughed when they

>> got it. I had to use Raid to finally kill the flying thing, and the

>> mites died when I applied bronners sal suds, AFTER orange guard had done

>> nothing to them.

>>

>> Sad and expensive. What a waste of my money, it was around $10 bucks and

>> it never killed a thing. I bet not even a fly would die from it.

>>

>> Please share your products, thanks..

>>

>

April 24, 2010

Will this stuff kill spiders? L. Re: Best Products for Mite Killing

In regards to orange guard I have taken this outside and watched it kill insects on contact. Everything from mites to springtails to ants.Looking at my bottle of orange guard is states d-Limonene(orange peel extract) 5.8% Inert ingredients 94.2%. You stated yours was 20% I have had success with insects outside I was so close to be totally healed and still am I would not be a good judge. But this will kill mites and springtails watched this with my own eyes outside. >> I have been reading about all the different products that kill mites,> and I wanted to see if everyone could share what has worked best for> them.> > Sorry if this has been done before, but I'm relatively new here and I've> been too messed up to barely write, let alone do a mega search to find> them.> > I do know that Lynn recommends Echo Orange.. I somehow fail to find it> online. Is that the correct spelling of it? I found Ecos, But not "Echo"> so I'm not sure if that's a product maybe from overseas? I'm in the US> by the way. Would you mind sharing an URL for it?> > I wanted to share that I have tried several different products and one> that has worked very well has been Dr Bronner's Sal Suds. It will kill> the mites at first contact.> > I was very disappointed with Orange Guard. I applied Orange Guard to> some creases, and nothing happened. Then I applied Sad Suds from Dr.> Bronners on the same creases, and the mites died on the spot. That was> disappointing considering Sal Suds is a soap while Orange Guard is truly> an insecticide, expensive and supposed to kill on the spot.> > Then one that worked equally or even better than Bronners Sal Suds was> the floor cleaner from earth friendly products. That killed everything> on the spot. No time to make a last move, lol.> > As for mites in my body, I use both, Dr. Bronners (I just finished the> mint and now I'm doing eucalyptus), both feel VERY strong, so much that> my eyes hurt when I wash my face.. I use those as shampoo and body wash.> But that's not all. After that, I apply baking soda and sea salt. Then> after that, I apply Denorex medicated. I try to leave the whole thing in> my head as long as I can.> > But the disappointing thing is that once finished, the bastards in my> scalp are still there.. how could they not die with the whole mix? Do> they have a special place to hide? I Try to do my body at the same time> that the whole mix is still in my head so they can't run and hide in a> free area.. but still.> > If anyone could share your products and maybe use a URL so it's easier> to find, I'd appreciate it.> > Here's the ones that worked great for me:> > These two killed on the spot, the floor cleaner slightly better, but> bronner's sal suds was great as well.> > Earth Friendly Floor Cleaner> <http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Friendly-Products-Laminate-Hardwood/dp/B000\> 0DAIP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=home-garden & qid=1271914322 & sr=8-1-spell>> > Dr Bronner's Sal Suds> <http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Bronners-Suds-32-Ounce-Bottles/dp/B001F0RBRE/r\> ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1271914396 & sr=8-1-catcorr>> > This one was a joke (orange guard)> > Orange Guard <Orange%20Guard>> > I sprayed almost 1/2 a bottle at one of those flying insects that> entered my room. It did ZERO to it. The mites probably laughed when they> got it. I had to use Raid to finally kill the flying thing, and the> mites died when I applied bronners sal suds, AFTER orange guard had done> nothing to them.> > Sad and expensive. What a waste of my money, it was around $10 bucks and> it never killed a thing. I bet not even a fly would die from it.> > Please share your products, thanks..>

April 24, 2010

Sorry Lynn--I don't like spiders in my environment at all. But they are fine outside - I like snakes too.L. Re: Best Products for Mite Killing

Are you going to try and kill the spiders?? They may be helping you out with getting rid of some of the bugs that are attracted to you. Just curious.In Light LynnP.S. I like spiders and snakes. lol. he, he, heeee......> > > >> > > > I have been reading about all the different products that kill mites,> > > > and I wanted to see if everyone could share what has worked best for> > > > them.> > > > > > > > Sorry if this has been done before, but I'm relatively new here and I've> > > > been too messed up to barely write, let alone do a mega search to find> > > > them.> > > > > > > > I do know that Lynn recommends Echo Orange.. I somehow fail to find it> > > > online. Is that the correct spelling of it? I found Ecos, But not "Echo"> > > > so I'm not sure if that's a product maybe from overseas? I'm in the US> > > > by the way. Would you mind sharing an URL for it?> > > > > > > > I wanted to share that I have tried several different products and one> > > > that has worked very well has been Dr Bronner's Sal Suds. It will kill> > > > the mites at first contact.> > > > > > > > I was very disappointed with Orange Guard. I applied Orange Guard to> > > > some creases, and nothing happened. Then I applied Sad Suds from Dr.> > > > Bronners on the same creases, and the mites died on the spot. That was> > > > disappointing considering Sal Suds is a soap while Orange Guard is truly> > > > an insecticide, expensive and supposed to kill on the spot.> > > > > > > > Then one that worked equally or even better than Bronners Sal Suds was> > > > the floor cleaner from earth friendly products. That killed everything> > > > on the spot. No time to make a last move, lol.> > > > > > > > As for mites in my body, I use both, Dr. Bronners (I just finished the> > > > mint and now I'm doing eucalyptus), both feel VERY strong, so much that> > > > my eyes hurt when I wash my face.. I use those as shampoo and body wash.> > > > But that's not all. After that, I apply baking soda and sea salt. Then> > > > after that, I apply Denorex medicated. I try to leave the whole thing in> > > > my head as long as I can.> > > > > > > > But the disappointing thing is that once finished, the bastards in my> > > > scalp are still there.. how could they not die with the whole mix? Do> > > > they have a special place to hide? I Try to do my body at the same time> > > > that the whole mix is still in my head so they can't run and hide in a> > > > free area.. but still.> > > > > > > > If anyone could share your products and maybe use a URL so it's easier> > > > to find, I'd appreciate it.> > > > > > > > Here's the ones that worked great for me:> > > > > > > > These two killed on the spot, the floor cleaner slightly better, but> > > > bronner's sal suds was great as well.> > > > > > > > Earth Friendly Floor Cleaner> > > > <http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Friendly-Products-Laminate-Hardwood/dp/B000\> > 0DAIP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=home-garden & qid=1271914322 & sr=8-1-spell>> > > > > > > > Dr Bronner's Sal Suds> > > > <http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Bronners-Suds-32-Ounce-Bottles/dp/B001F0RBRE/r\> > ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1271914396 & sr=8-1-catcorr>> > > > > > > > This one was a joke (orange guard)> > > > > > > > Orange Guard <Orange%20Guard>> > > > > > > > I sprayed almost 1/2 a bottle at one of those flying insects that> > > > entered my room. It did ZERO to it. The mites probably laughed when they> > > > got it. I had to use Raid to finally kill the flying thing, and the> > > > mites died when I applied bronners sal suds, AFTER orange guard had done> > > > nothing to them.> > > > > > > > Sad and expensive. What a waste of my money, it was around $10 bucks and> > > > it never killed a thing. I bet not even a fly would die from it.> > > > > > > > Please share your products, thanks..> > > >>

April 25, 2010

Hi Cerph

How do you kill them in the body ?

ivermectin

Bye,

.. Bil

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On Sun Apr 25th, 2010 3:02 AM EDT cerph@... wrote:

>From my experience, there are many topical solutions, but all are temporary in

nature (aka- knockdowns).

>

>The bugs are primarily an internal problem. Yes, they're in your skin/scalp

dermal layers, but I believe they're happily reproducing in every body system

you posess (and love to party at night).

>

>They must be killed inside you, or they will simply jump off your body, into

your clothing, and environment.

>

>And even though we're forced to clean our clothes and environment like crazy,

it's only a game of " keep up " , until we can eradicate them inside our bodies.

>

>D.

>

>>

>> I have been reading about all the different products that kill mites,

>> and I wanted to see if everyone could share what has worked best for

>> them.

>>

>> Sorry if this has been done before, but I'm relatively new here and I've

>> been too messed up to barely write, let alone do a mega search to find

>> them.

>>

>> I do know that Lynn recommends Echo Orange.. I somehow fail to find it

>> online. Is that the correct spelling of it? I found Ecos, But not " Echo "

>> so I'm not sure if that's a product maybe from overseas? I'm in the US

>> by the way. Would you mind sharing an URL for it?

>>

>> I wanted to share that I have tried several different products and one

>> that has worked very well has been Dr Bronner's Sal Suds. It will kill

>> the mites at first contact.

>>

>> I was very disappointed with Orange Guard. I applied Orange Guard to

>> some creases, and nothing happened. Then I applied Sad Suds from Dr.

>> Bronners on the same creases, and the mites died on the spot. That was

>> disappointing considering Sal Suds is a soap while Orange Guard is truly

>> an insecticide, expensive and supposed to kill on the spot.

>>

>> Then one that worked equally or even better than Bronners Sal Suds was

>> the floor cleaner from earth friendly products. That killed everything

>> on the spot. No time to make a last move, lol.

>>

>> As for mites in my body, I use both, Dr. Bronners (I just finished the

>> mint and now I'm doing eucalyptus), both feel VERY strong, so much that

>> my eyes hurt when I wash my face.. I use those as shampoo and body wash.

>> But that's not all. After that, I apply baking soda and sea salt. Then

>> after that, I apply Denorex medicated. I try to leave the whole thing in

>> my head as long as I can.

>>

>> But the disappointing thing is that once finished, the bastards in my

>> scalp are still there.. how could they not die with the whole mix? Do

>> they have a special place to hide? I Try to do my body at the same time

>> that the whole mix is still in my head so they can't run and hide in a

>> free area.. but still.

>>

>> If anyone could share your products and maybe use a URL so it's easier

>> to find, I'd appreciate it.

>>

>> Here's the ones that worked great for me:

>>

>> These two killed on the spot, the floor cleaner slightly better, but

>> bronner's sal suds was great as well.

>>

>> Earth Friendly Floor Cleaner

>> <http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Friendly-Products-Laminate-Hardwood/dp/B000\

>> 0DAIP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=home-garden & qid=1271914322 & sr=8-1-spell>

>>

>> Dr Bronner's Sal Suds

>> <http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Bronners-Suds-32-Ounce-Bottles/dp/B001F0RBRE/r\

>> ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=hpc & qid=1271914396 & sr=8-1-catcorr>

>>

>> This one was a joke (orange guard)

>>

>> Orange Guard <Orange%20Guard>

>>

>> I sprayed almost 1/2 a bottle at one of those flying insects that

>> entered my room. It did ZERO to it. The mites probably laughed when they

>> got it. I had to use Raid to finally kill the flying thing, and the

>> mites died when I applied bronners sal suds, AFTER orange guard had done

>> nothing to them.

>>

>> Sad and expensive. What a waste of my money, it was around $10 bucks and

>> it never killed a thing. I bet not even a fly would die from it.

>>

>> Please share your products, thanks..

>>

>

April 27, 2010

Hi Pdidit

How are you , ?

For a flying bug a fogger will take them out of the air. Or a wagner power

painter , I got mine used for $8 at the resale store , It shoots a super fine

mist & has a hose to put in a 5 gal bucket , I tie the trigger iin the on

position with bailing wire , I fog 1 cup borax half cup epsom & 2 oz of

coconut oil 1 gallon of hot water , sometimes 1 cup windex too . It stops all

bugs in 5-10 mins per room . I never breath the mist

God bless you ,

Bill.

ps

i use a hair dryer when ever I am cold , I sleep with it on me , I sweat a lot

sometimes due to the heat , it feels good , it costs 6.9 cents per hr to run

on low & 9 cent per hr on high , 4 hrs for 36 cents , it dries out the room &

the air matress fast after rinsing it of the arm & hammer powdered laundry

soap 1 cup per 5 gallon it soaks in while I am at work , bugs can t live it it ,

it is too strong. .

On Mon Apr 26th, 2010 9:00 AM EDT S wrote:

>Hi Lynn

>

>Yes, last year I tried all sorts of orange products, like the Earth

>Friendly brand, Eco orange enzymes from Pro-tek, TKO orange and Orange

>guard [worked on regular insects but found it to leave a very sticky

>residue, if my memory serves me well] at my old house, but it did very

>little to control these flying insects. I used to make up my spray

>bottles and always add in orange oil, but for some reason this doesn't

>seem to be an effective natural insecticide and have to add in more

>essential oils--namely lemon / eucalyptus or lemongrass. I have still

>yet to find the one you use and I think it is because there are so many

>orange products out there now with very similar names. Eco, Echo, etc...

>I never found the link you were referring to when looking up your orange

>product...? Does yours have enzymes in it?

>

>I am very thin and very cold all the time, so whenever I use any

>shampoos with menthol, peppermint oils, it heightens this cold feeling I

>have--I just grin and bear it for now whenever I use the menthol sprays

>on my head before going out because it at least this gives me some hours

>of relief when going out, but it leaves me very uncomfortable and I

>often have to jack up the heat to get warm again--need to get moving and

>push myself to exercise but energy levels are low and therefore haven;t

>gotten out enough and/or have yet to find the right exercise clothes

>with the right kind of material that will work for me. I tried the Dr.

>Bronners Peppermint soap last year and it did the same thing--I was

>frozen half to death after my showers. I am waiting for some info about

>my electrical outlets at the condo before proceeding with the Sauna

>purchase...don't know if landlord will allow this but am hoping...cuz I

>can hardly wait as this will help to regulate my temps. I also plan on

>trying lusol or a similar iodine supplement that may help to regulate my

>thyroid and hopefully this will help to balance my body temps too.

>

>Thanks for your suggestions and if you have the link, would still

>revisit the idea of trying another orange product--was going to then got

>confused about which one.

>

>Am so very glad you are doing better--can't hardly wait for that normal

>feeling again of not being pestered by something; I do believe that

>using the msm and coconut has lessened the crawling. Tis the only new

>thing I have added so it must be that.

>Have also tried pouring a mix of Probiotics with warm water over my

>head, inbetween using hair rinses that kill off bacteria and this helped

>but results are inconsistent. A friend of mine tried this and it gave

>her a lot of head trouble again--possible die off effect.

>

>Love

>Pdidit

>

>>

>> Hi Pateria

>>

>> Have you tried killing the with any orange products?? Also the Echo

>Orange will desolve things. Possably the biofilm. I have no bio-film

>anymore. I stopped using the baking soda because it was stripping my

>skin. Even have to be careful with over using the sea salt and vinagar.

>Its like a juggling act. I rarely have any in my hair with the Dr.

>Bronners pepperment shampoo and White distilled vinagar with Echo Orange

>in it. I found Dr. Bronners shampoo to drying so I had bought Rosemary

>oil and Jojoba oil. I have a ESP bottle for pumping out shampoo and make

>a mix in it. Straight Dr. Bronners with 12 drops of Jojoba oil and 7

>drops of Rosemary. Helps put moisture back into the hair. Have to shake

>the bottle before pumping the mix out for my hair.

>>

>> For months I was using Dr. Bronners at night and it helped keep it all

>the bugs low key. On hatch days I would have to gently rub in sea salt

>to my scalp and rinse and powder my head with Baking Soda and rinse

>before doing Dr. Bronners. Than when I realize I had stripped my skin I

>switched to just Dr. Bronners with my add ins and rinse fallowed by my

>Vinagar rinse which I leave in at night and rarely ever have bugs in my

>hair on head. Now I only wash my hair in the morning with Dr. Bronners

>and rinse and fallow up with the vinagar mix and at night I do not wash

>my hair at all. I just spray a heavy dose of my vinagar mix and works

>out really good.

>>

>> In Light Lynn

>

April 27, 2010

You can try to get all the bugs but that is.nt going work. You need to work on

your attravion on to them.