Re: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites

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Good article. Thanks for posting it Marie.

J

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 6:24:42 PMSubject: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites

Dr. Metzger is right on the money I beleive also. Here is more research to further support Dr. Metzger and her theory]http://www.hongpong .com/archives/ 2009/11/29/ titanium- nanoparticle- pollution- cancer-link- morgellons- agrobacterium- vectors-hemp- oil-again- plus-todays- wto-Vitaly Citovsky is a professor of molecular and cell biology at Stony Brook University in New York (SUNY). He is a world authority on the genetic modification of cells by Agrobacterium, a soil bacterium causing crown gall disease in plants, that has been widely used in creating genetically modified (GM) plants since the 1980s because of its ability to transfer a piece of its genetic material, the T-DNA on its tumour-inducing (Ti) plasmid to the plant genome (see

later for details).Citovsky's team took scanning electron microscope pictures of the fibres in or extruding from the skin of patients suffering from Morgellons disease, confirming that they are unlike any ordinary natural or synthetic fibres (see Fig. 1, assembled from Citovsky's website [8]).Figure 1. Scanning electron microscope images of fibres from skin biopsies of patients with Morgellons Disease - a, white fibre with calcite, scale bar 10 mm; b, green fibre with alumina `rock' protruding, scale bar 20 mm; c, various ribbon-like, cylindrical and faceted fibres all coated with minerals, scale bar 10 mm; d, skin lesion with fibres stabbing through the epidermis, scale bar 300mmThey also analysed patients for Agrobacterium DNA. Skin biopsy samples from Morgellons patients were subjected to high-stringency polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests for genes encoded by theAgrobacterium chromosome and also for Agrobacterium virulence

(vir) genes and T-DNA on its Ti plasmid. They found that "all Morgellons patients screened to date have tested positive for the presence of Agrobacterium, whereas this microorganism has not been detected in any of the samples derived from the control, healthy individuals. " Their preliminary conclusion is that "Agrobacteriummay be involved in the etiology and/or progression" of Morgellons Disease........San Francisco physician, Raphael Stricker, one of only a few doctors who believe the disease is real, said [9]. "There's almost always some history of exposure to dirt basically either from gardening or camping or something." He is one of the co-authors on the Agrobacterium research done in SUNY, which reported finding Agrobacterium DNA in all 5 Morgellons patients studied. Stricker suggests it is transmitted by ticks, like Lyme disease, and in a recent survey of 44 Morgellons patients in San Francisco, 43 of them also tested positive for the

bacterium causing Lyme disease. Another factor consistent with Agrobacterium being a causative agent, if not the causative agent, is that when patients are treated with antibacterials for their Lyme disease, remission of Morgellons symptoms is seen in most of them [6].Stricker also told his audience that Agrobacterium lives in the soil, and is known to cause infections in animals and human beings with compromised immune systems. It can cause skin lesions when injected into Swiss mice, a strain that is immune deficient, he said.At this point, the findings on the Agrobacterium connection are still preliminary, as only seven patients have been studied. Nevertheless, the implications are far-reaching if this connection is confirmed, as existing evidence (reviewed below) suggests a link between Agrobacterium and genetic engineering in the creation of new disease agents, and it is paramount for the CDC investigation to include this aspect, if

only to rule it out.Agrobacterium and the genetic engineering connectionAgrobacterium not only infects human and other animal cells, it also transfers genes into them. It was SUNY professor Citovsky and his team that made the discovery some years ago [10]. Until then, the genetic engineering community had assumed that Agrobacterium did not infect animal cells, and certainly would not transfer genes into them.Agrobacterium was found to transfer T-DNA into the chromosomes of human cells.In stably transformed HeLa cells, the integration occurred at the right border of the T-DNA, exactly as would happen when it is being transferred into a plant cell genome, suggesting that Agrobacterium transforms human cells by a mechanism similar to that involved in transforming plants cells (see Box 1). Human cancer cells, neurons and kidney cells were all transformed with the Agrobacterium T-DNA. Commenting on this research in 2001, Joe

Cummins had warned of hazards to laboratory and farm workers [11] (i-sis news11/12)The Agrobacterium vector system for gene transferSince the discovery in the 1970s that Agrobacterium can transfer genes into plants causing crown gall disease, the soil bacterium has been developed into a vector for inserting desirable genes into the plant genome to create transgenic (GM) plants [12].More random notes: Morgellon's Disease Linked to GM Food and Lyme Disease and Morgellons Disease: The Result of Genetically Modified Food?>> Hi JS> > That is my thinking too. Interestingly enough, my medical trained ILADS doctor in California, Dr. Deborah Metzger, MD, Ph.D. believes herself that agrobacterium is the cause or

plays a huge role in all of this. We never discussed anything about chemtrails tho. She is beginning to treat more and more people with Morgellons, besides myself. I know that when I was actively looking at my own specimen slides from things off my body with my microscope that has software to view on the computer, many of the blobs were greenish yellow pond scum looking things and fibers, of course. Always the fibers. Dr. Metzger was mostly interested in that, along with some partial insects coiled up in fibers. I gave her pictures from the microscope slides for my record. I know of one woman with Morgellons who lives in Nova Scotia flew out a month ago to see Dr. Metzger (poor dear, so far to go for a good doctor) and is now starting the medications, etc., prescribed by Dr. Metzger. Dr. Metzger must see you in person to prescribe and she decided to go ahead and get treatment from Dr. Metzger. Can you imagine traveling all that way?> >

> > Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites> >

> > Below is a very interesting post from http://www.curezone .org/forums/ fm.asp?i= 1538434#i> > "I was told by dr. staninger that she didn't find any cell nucleus meaning she didn't find any parasites in the samples that she collected from her morgellons patients. The things that look like parasites are nanotechnology. They take a sphere shape and a rod shape like a "tootsie roll". Believe me..i'm a patient of hers and i've asked her a million times if she is sure that there is not parasite. She says no. She has found some type of rna/dna that could be a virus in the nano. And the nano is all silicone or other types of plastic. The only thing that pushes plastic out is far infrared. I spent a year trying to detox with vitamins and nothing worked. By the way if you want to see the plastic shoot out ..do the "pedifix" and "endure 300" soap trick. First put>

> the> > pedifix on your soars and rub it in..and then on TOP of that put the endure 300 soap. The silicone will gush out! First time dr. staninger did this to my soars i couldn't believe what i was seeing. Try it! you will see the silicone..and that's the way to get the soars to close up faster. Also ozonated oil..that dr. staninger sells. She is starting to sell her stuff on Ebay. Just type "staninger" and you will see stuff from her protocol..her far infrared is the main part of it. I'm about 70% better by now. I still have wounds but my before and after photos show alot of improvement. I'm still suffering though..i want to look normal and not like a wounded war causualty. Or as i say..road kill. Oh by the way! dr. staninger is hounded by the cdc who don't want her to help people. So if you call her don't mention morgellons.. just give her a hint like "silicone poisoning" so she knows that you know not to mention morgellons. The

cdc tries to frame> > her and> > trick her into saying she treats morgellons so they can shut her down. She now has to makes people get referalls from an M.D. to see a toxicologist so they can see her..she's a toxicologist with a phd. But she's the only one who knows what this is and the gov doesn't like that. I heard people are getting assasinated over this. And staninger has already had 3 assasination attempts on her life over this stuff."> > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!> > > > > > > > > > > > > The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free!>

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To me, an agrobacterium/mold infection makes alot more sense then Staninger's theory, even though her protocol healed many. As I mentioned before, her protocol may have healed many because it involves agressive cleansing and an infrared sauna that helps the body eliminate bacteria, fungus and other things.

I recall when I had a fever from a viral infection early this winter. All symptoms of the morgellans/mite disease completely disappeared while I had the fever. Could it be that my elevated body temperature started to destroy the agrobacteria (or something like it)? If so, maybe that is why infrared is so effective against this disease - it elevates the body temperature to 42C/107.6 F and the agrobacteria cannot survive that.?

J

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 6:45:31 PMSubject: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites

Here is written documentation and study dating back to 1993 linking lyme and agrobacterium. JOURNAL OF BACTERIOLOGY, Dec. 1993,http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ pmc/articles/ PMC206964/ pdf/jbacter00066 -0131.pdf> >> > Hi JS> > > > That is my thinking too. Interestingly enough, my medical trained ILADS doctor in California, Dr. Deborah Metzger, MD, Ph.D. believes herself that agrobacterium is the cause or plays a huge role in all of this. We never discussed anything about chemtrails tho. She is beginning to treat more and more people with Morgellons, besides myself. I know that when I was actively

looking at my own specimen slides from things off my body with my microscope that has software to view on the computer, many of the blobs were greenish yellow pond scum looking things and fibers, of course. Always the fibers. Dr. Metzger was mostly interested in that, along with some partial insects coiled up in fibers. I gave her pictures from the microscope slides for my record. I know of one woman with Morgellons who lives in Nova Scotia flew out a month ago to see Dr. Metzger (poor dear, so far to go for a good doctor) and is now starting the medications, etc., prescribed by Dr. Metzger. Dr. Metzger must see you in person to prescribe and she decided to go ahead and get treatment from Dr. Metzger. Can you imagine traveling all that way?> > > > > > > > Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites> > > > > > > > Below is a very interesting post from http://www.curezone .org/forums/ fm.asp?i= 1538434#i> > > > "I was told by dr. staninger that she didn't find any cell nucleus meaning she didn't find any parasites in the samples that she collected from her morgellons patients. The things that look like parasites are nanotechnology. They take a sphere shape and a rod shape like a "tootsie roll". Believe me..i'm a patient of hers and i've asked her a million times if she is sure that there is not parasite. She says no. She has

found some type of rna/dna that could be a virus in the nano. And the nano is all silicone or other types of plastic. The only thing that pushes plastic out is far infrared. I spent a year trying to detox with vitamins and nothing worked. By the way if you want to see the plastic shoot out ..do the "pedifix" and "endure 300" soap trick. First put> > > > the> > > > pedifix on your soars and rub it in..and then on TOP of that put the endure 300 soap. The silicone will gush out! First time dr. staninger did this to my soars i couldn't believe what i was seeing. Try it! you will see the silicone..and that's the way to get the soars to close up faster. Also ozonated oil..that dr. staninger sells. She is starting to sell her stuff on Ebay. Just type "staninger" and you will see stuff from her protocol..her far infrared is the main part of it. I'm about 70% better by now. I still have wounds but my before and after

photos show alot of improvement. I'm still suffering though..i want to look normal and not like a wounded war causualty. Or as i say..road kill. Oh by the way! dr. staninger is hounded by the cdc who don't want her to help people. So if you call her don't mention morgellons.. just give her a hint like "silicone poisoning" so she knows that you know not to mention morgellons. The cdc tries to frame> > > > her and> > > > trick her into saying she treats morgellons so they can shut her down. She now has to makes people get referalls from an M.D. to see a toxicologist so they can see her..she's a toxicologist with a phd. But she's the only one who knows what this is and the gov doesn't like that. I heard people are getting assasinated over this. And staninger has already had 3 assasination attempts on her life over this stuff."> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Believe me Marie I am considering it, especially since new protocols are posted. The old protocol was too toxic for me and didn't help.

J

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 6:57:42 PMSubject: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites

JS Infrared kills bacteria so I have no doubt it would be a very helpful tool, however the best pathogen and bacteria killer known to man is Chlorine dioxide MMS1. So if this is caused by agrobacteriun sprayed on our food why would MMS1 not work even on raw meat before prepared, vegtables, and other food sources. And also on the human body externally for sure and in my own experience internally to.http://www.getmms. org/media/ miracle_mineral_ home_uses. htmlhttp://www.health- science-spirit. com/MMS.htmlhttp://www.gaiasaun as.com/sauna_ boosts_immune_ system_kills_ bacteria_ and_viruses. asphttp://www.dldewey. com/morgel. htmhttp://www.themirac lemineralsolutio n.net/using- miracle-mineral- solution- in-your-kitchen- is-a-healthy- decis> >> > Hi JS> > > > That is my thinking too. Interestingly enough, my medical trained ILADS doctor in

California, Dr. Deborah Metzger, MD, Ph.D. believes herself that agrobacterium is the cause or plays a huge role in all of this. We never discussed anything about chemtrails tho. She is beginning to treat more and more people with Morgellons, besides myself. I know that when I was actively looking at my own specimen slides from things off my body with my microscope that has software to view on the computer, many of the blobs were greenish yellow pond scum looking things and fibers, of course. Always the fibers. Dr. Metzger was mostly interested in that, along with some partial insects coiled up in fibers. I gave her pictures from the microscope slides for my record. I know of one woman with Morgellons who lives in Nova Scotia flew out a month ago to see Dr. Metzger (poor dear, so far to go for a good doctor) and is now starting the medications, etc., prescribed by Dr.> Metzger. Dr. Metzger must see you in person to prescribe and she decided to go

ahead and get treatment from Dr. Metzger. Can you imagine traveling all that way?> > > > > > > > Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites> > > > > > > > Below is a very interesting post from http://www.curezone .org/forums/ fm.asp?i= 1538434#i> > > > "I was told by dr. staninger that she didn't find any cell nucleus meaning she didn't find any parasites in the samples that she collected from her morgellons patients. The things that look like parasites are nanotechnology. They take a sphere shape and a rod shape like a "tootsie roll". Believe me..i'm a patient of hers and i've asked her a million times if she is sure that there is

not parasite. She says no. She has found some type of rna/dna that could be a virus in the nano. And the nano is all silicone or other types of plastic. The only thing that pushes plastic out is far infrared. I spent a year trying to detox with vitamins and nothing worked. By the way if you want to see the plastic shoot out ..do the "pedifix" and "endure 300" soap trick. First put> > > > the> > > > pedifix on your soars and rub it in..and then on TOP of that put the endure 300 soap. The silicone will gush out! First time dr. staninger did this to my soars i couldn't believe what i was seeing. Try it! you will see the silicone..and that's the way to get the soars to close up faster. Also ozonated oil..that dr. staninger sells. She is starting to sell her stuff on Ebay. Just type "staninger" and you will see stuff from her protocol..her far infrared is the main part of it. I'm about 70% better by now. I still have

wounds but my before and after photos show alot of improvement. I'm still suffering though..i want to look normal and not like a wounded war causualty. Or as i say..road kill. Oh by the way! dr. staninger is hounded by the cdc who don't want her to help people. So if you call her don't mention morgellons.. just give her a hint like "silicone poisoning" so she knows that you know not to mention morgellons. The cdc tries to frame> > > > her and> > > > trick her into saying she treats morgellons so they can shut her down. She now has to makes people get referalls from an M.D. to see a toxicologist so they can see her..she's a toxicologist with a phd. But she's the only one who knows what this is and the gov doesn't like that. I heard people are getting assasinated over this. And staninger has already had 3 assasination attempts on her life over this stuff."> > > > > > > >

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Very interesting Hope. Thank you for posting. I just now heard something interesting on the news. Apparently tobacoo growers have developed a type of tobacoo that produces 10 times more oil than regular tobacco. They stated proudly that it is bioengineered... and that the tobacfco would be an ideal plant for producing biofuel. Can you imagine people's engines spewing this stuff out? Was on Fox news.L. Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites> > > > Below is a very interesting post from http://www.curezone .org/forums/ fm.asp?i= 1538434#i> > "I was told by dr. staninger that she didn't find any cell nucleus meaning she didn't find any parasites in the samples that she collected from her morgellons patients. The things that look like parasites are nanotechnology. They take a sphere shape and a rod shape like a "tootsie roll". Believe me..i'm a patient of hers and i've asked her a million times if she is sure that there is not parasite. She says no. She has found some type of rna/dna that could be a virus in the nano. And the nano is all silicone or other types of plastic. The only thing that pushes plastic out is far infrared. I spent a year trying to detox with vitamins and nothing worked. By the way if you want to see the plastic shoot out ..do the "pedifix" and "endure 300" soap trick. First put> > the> > pedifix on your soars and rub it in..and then on TOP of that put the endure 300 soap. The silicone will gush out! First time dr. staninger did this to my soars i couldn't believe what i was seeing. Try it! you will see the silicone..and that's the way to get the soars to close up faster. Also ozonated oil..that dr. staninger sells. She is starting to sell her stuff on Ebay. Just type "staninger" and you will see stuff from her protocol..her far infrared is the main part of it. I'm about 70% better by now. I still have wounds but my before and after photos show alot of improvement. I'm still suffering though..i want to look normal and not like a wounded war causualty. Or as i say..road kill. Oh by the way! dr. staninger is hounded by the cdc who don't want her to help people. So if you call her don't mention morgellons.. just give her a hint like "silicone poisoning" so she knows that you know not to mention morgellons. The cdc tries to frame> > her and> > trick her into saying she treats morgellons so they can shut her down. She now has to makes people get referalls from an M.D. to see a toxicologist so they can see her..she's a toxicologist with a phd. But she's the only one who knows what this is and the gov doesn't like that. I heard people are getting assasinated over this. And staninger has already had 3 assasination attempts on her life over this stuff."> > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!> > > > > > > > > > > > > The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free!>

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That is a picture below of Casey, who is an administrator of Morgellon's Sanctum of which I frequently post under the name "Louise." She is a real stand up awesome person. As a matter of fact, the conference for 2010 should be starting this week-end and she is there now. It will be interesting to see if anything new comes out of this conference. I hope so. Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites> > > > > > > > Below is a very interesting post from http://www.curezone .org/forums/ fm.asp?i= 1538434#i> > > > "I was told by dr. staninger that she didn't find any cell nucleus meaning she didn't find any parasites in the samples that she collected from her morgellons patients. The things that look like parasites are nanotechnology. They take a sphere shape and a rod shape like a "tootsie roll". Believe me..i'm a patient of hers and i've asked her a million times if she is sure that there is not parasite. She says no. She has found some type of rna/dna that could be a virus in the nano. And the nano is all silicone or other types of plastic. The only thing that pushes plastic out is far infrared. I spent a year trying to detox with vitamins and nothing worked. By the way if you want to see the plastic shoot out ..do the "pedifix" and "endure 300" soap trick. First put> > > > the> > > > pedifix on your soars and rub it in..and then on TOP of that put the endure 300 soap. The silicone will gush out! First time dr. staninger did this to my soars i couldn't believe what i was seeing. Try it! you will see the silicone..and that's the way to get the soars to close up faster. Also ozonated oil..that dr. staninger sells. She is starting to sell her stuff on Ebay. Just type "staninger" and you will see stuff from her protocol..her far infrared is the main part of it. I'm about 70% better by now. I still have wounds but my before and after photos show alot of improvement. I'm still suffering though..i want to look normal and not like a wounded war causualty. Or as i say..road kill. Oh by the way! dr. staninger is hounded by the cdc who don't want her to help people. So if you call her don't mention morgellons.. just give her a hint like "silicone poisoning" so she knows that you know not to mention morgellons. The cdc tries to frame> > > > her and> > > > trick her into saying she treats morgellons so they can shut her down. She now has to makes people get referalls from an M.D. to see a toxicologist so they can see her..she's a toxicologist with a phd. But she's the only one who knows what this is and the gov doesn't like that. I heard people are getting assasinated over this. And staninger has already had 3 assasination attempts on her life over this stuff."> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free!> >>

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Wow Hope, you are good! Amazing. Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites> > > > > > > > Below is a very interesting post from http://www.curezone .org/forums/ fm.asp?i= 1538434#i> > > > "I was told by dr. staninger that she didn't find any cell nucleus meaning she didn't find any parasites in the samples that she collected from her morgellons patients. The things that look like parasites are nanotechnology. They take a sphere shape and a rod shape like a "tootsie roll". Believe me..i'm a patient of hers and i've asked her a million times if she is sure that there is not parasite. She says no. She has found some type of rna/dna that could be a virus in the nano. And the nano is all silicone or other types of plastic. The only thing that pushes plastic out is far infrared. I spent a year trying to detox with vitamins and nothing worked. By the way if you want to see the plastic shoot out ..do the "pedifix" and "endure 300" soap trick. First put> > > > the> > > > pedifix on your soars and rub it in..and then on TOP of that put the endure 300 soap. The silicone will gush out! First time dr. staninger did this to my soars i couldn't believe what i was seeing. Try it! you will see the silicone..and that's the way to get the soars to close up faster. Also ozonated oil..that dr. staninger sells. She is starting to sell her stuff on Ebay. Just type "staninger" and you will see stuff from her protocol..her far infrared is the main part of it. I'm about 70% better by now. I still have wounds but my before and after photos show alot of improvement. I'm still suffering though..i want to look normal and not like a wounded war causualty. Or as i say..road kill. Oh by the way! dr. staninger is hounded by the cdc who don't want her to help people. So if you call her don't mention morgellons.. just give her a hint like "silicone poisoning" so she knows that you know not to mention morgellons. The cdc tries to frame> > > > her and> > > > trick her into saying she treats morgellons so they can shut her down. She now has to makes people get referalls from an M.D. to see a toxicologist so they can see her..she's a toxicologist with a phd. But she's the only one who knows what this is and the gov doesn't like that. I heard people are getting assasinated over this. And staninger has already had 3 assasination attempts on her life over this stuff."> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free!> >>

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I don't know but my fibers a certain kind are attached to small black bug???For

sure there were worms in my lesions when they were at there worst...at least I

sure thought they were...however there were these weird sphere like red things

inside lesions..mostly healed up..sorry if it is a bit gross

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From: J S <requireshelp@...>

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Subject: Re: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites

Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT)

To me, an agrobacterium/mold infection makes alot more sense then Staninger's

theory, even though her protocol healed many.  As I mentioned before, her

protocol may have healed many because it involves agressive cleansing and an

infrared sauna that helps the body eliminate bacteria, fungus and other things.

I recall when I had a fever from a viral infection early this winter.  All

symptoms of the morgellans/mite disease completely disappeared while I had the

fever.  Could it be that my elevated body temperature started to destroy the

agrobacteria (or something like it)?  If so, maybe that is why infrared is

so effective against this disease - it elevates the body temperature to

42C/107.6 F and the agrobacteria cannot survive that.?

J

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From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>

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Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 6:45:31 PM

Subject: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites

 

Here is written documentation and study dating back to 1993 linking lyme and

agrobacterium. JOURNAL OF BACTERIOLOGY, Dec. 1993,

http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ pmc/articles/ PMC206964/ pdf/jbacter00066

-0131.pdf

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> > Hi JS

> >

> > That is my thinking too. Interestingly enough, my medical trained ILADS

doctor in California, Dr. Deborah Metzger, MD, Ph.D. believes herself that

agrobacterium is the cause or plays a huge role in all of this. We never

discussed anything about chemtrails tho. She is beginning to treat more and more

people with Morgellons, besides myself. I know that when I was actively looking

at my own specimen slides from things off my body with my microscope that has

software to view on the computer, many of the blobs were greenish yellow pond

scum looking things and fibers, of course. Always the fibers. Dr. Metzger was

mostly interested in that, along with some partial insects coiled up in fibers.

I gave her pictures from the microscope slides for my record. I know of one

woman with Morgellons who lives in Nova Scotia flew out a month ago to see Dr.

Metzger (poor dear, so far to go for a good doctor) and is now starting the

medications, etc., prescribed by Dr.

Metzger. Dr. Metzger must see you in person to prescribe and she decided to go

ahead and get treatment from Dr. Metzger. Can you imagine traveling all that

way?

> >

> >

> >

> > Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites

> >

> >

> >

> > Below is a very interesting post from http://www.curezone .org/forums/

fm.asp?i= 1538434#i

> >

> > " I was told by dr. staninger that she didn't find any cell nucleus meaning

she didn't find any parasites in the samples that she collected from her

morgellons patients. The things that look like parasites are nanotechnology.

They take a sphere shape and a rod shape like a " tootsie roll " . Believe me..i'm

a patient of hers and i've asked her a million times if she is sure that there

is not parasite. She says no. She has found some type of rna/dna that could be a

virus in the nano. And the nano is all silicone or other types of plastic. The

only thing that pushes plastic out is far infrared. I spent a year trying to

detox with vitamins and nothing worked. By the way if you want to see the

plastic shoot out ..do the " pedifix " and " endure 300 " soap trick. First put

> >

> > the

> >

> > pedifix on your soars and rub it in..and then on TOP of that put the endure

300 soap. The silicone will gush out! First time dr. staninger did this to my

soars i couldn't believe what i was seeing. Try it! you will see the

silicone..and that's the way to get the soars to close up faster. Also ozonated

oil..that dr. staninger sells. She is starting to sell her stuff on Ebay. Just

type " staninger " and you will see stuff from her protocol..her far infrared is

the main part of it. I'm about 70% better by now. I still have wounds but my

before and after photos show alot of improvement. I'm still suffering though..i

want to look normal and not like a wounded war causualty. Or as i say..road

kill. Oh by the way! dr. staninger is hounded by the cdc who don't want her to

help people. So if you call her don't mention morgellons.. just give her a hint

like " silicone poisoning " so she knows that you know not to mention morgellons.

The cdc tries to frame

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What color is the silicone when it rushes out and what consistency???Please.Rose

--- bessieglavas@... wrote:

From: " Bessie " <bessieglavas@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites

Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:24:22 -0000

Dr. Wymore did not find any eukaryotic cells, either. He does not believe it is

a biological entity.

Bessie

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> Below is a very interesting post from

http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1538434#i

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> " I was told by dr. staninger that she didn't find any cell nucleus meaning she

didn't find any parasites in the samples that she collected from her morgellons

patients. The things that look like parasites are nanotechnology. They take a

sphere shape and a rod shape like a " tootsie roll " . Believe me..i'm a patient of

hers and i've asked her a million times if she is sure that there is not

parasite. She says no. She has found some type of rna/dna that could be a virus

in the nano. And the nano is all silicone or other types of plastic. The only

thing that pushes plastic out is far infrared. I spent a year trying to detox

with vitamins and nothing worked. By the way if you want to see the plastic

shoot out ..do the " pedifix " and " endure 300 " soap trick. First put the pedifix

on your soars and rub it in..and then on TOP of that put the endure 300 soap.

The silicone will gush out! First time dr. staninger did this to my soars i

couldn't believe what i was seeing. Try it! you will see the silicone..and

that's the way to get the soars to close up faster. Also ozonated oil..that dr.

staninger sells. She is starting to sell her stuff on Ebay. Just type

" staninger " and you will see stuff from her protocol..her far infrared is the

main part of it. I'm about 70% better by now. I still have wounds but my before

and after photos show alot of improvement. I'm still suffering though..i want to

look normal and not like a wounded war causualty. Or as i say..road kill. Oh by

the way! dr. staninger is hounded by the cdc who don't want her to help people.

So if you call her don't mention morgellons..just give her a hint like " silicone

poisoning " so she knows that you know not to mention morgellons. The cdc tries

to frame her and trick her into saying she treats morgellons so they can shut

her down. She now has to makes people get referalls from an M.D. to see a

toxicologist so they can see her..she's a toxicologist with a phd. But she's the

only one who knows what this is and the gov doesn't like that. I heard people

are getting assasinated over this. And staninger has already had 3 assasination

attempts on her life over this stuff. "

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Myrtle,

Thanks for sharing that ou didn't feel bugs during your flu/fever. Has anyone else experienced reduced problems with bugs during a fever?

Yes, the FIR sauna does elevate the body temperature to fever levels. I would think that spending a long sessions in a full size FIR sauna would provide the most benefits.

J

From: Myrtle <myrtle_maui@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 3:25:22 PMSubject: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites

J - That's a good observation about the mites disappearing when you had a fever. I was extremely ill with flu-like symptoms including fever a couple of weeks ago and didn't shower for about 3 days because I couldn't get up, and didn't feel any bugs. So the FIR sauna provides an artificially induced fever condition? Then I guess the key is to keep using it consistently for a long period of time?Thanks,myrtle> > From: J S <requireshelp@ ...>> bird mites> Subject: Re: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT)> > To me, an agrobacterium/ mold infection makes alot more sense then Staninger's theory, even though her protocol healed many. As I mentioned before, her

protocol may have healed many because it involves agressive cleansing and an infrared sauna that helps the body eliminate bacteria, fungus and other things.> > I recall when I had a fever from a viral infection early this winter. All symptoms of the morgellans/mite disease completely disappeared while I had the fever. Could it be that my elevated body temperature started to destroy the agrobacteria (or something like it)?  If so, maybe that is why infrared is so effective against this disease - it elevates the body temperature to 42C/107.6 F and the agrobacteria cannot survive that.?> > J

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The low body temperature can explain why so many Morgellons peeps have hypothyroidism (even if at a very low level). Taking natural thyroid has helped me and my husband when we finally had a doctor who recognized that we were low thyroid. So thyroid can raise your temperature too. Husband used to get cold all the time, but now he feels overheated quite a bit of the time and on nice days just wears a t-shirt on the torso outside.If you suspect you are low thyroid, and can't afford the exams, you could experiment a bit with natural thyroid which can be purchased over the internet without a script. (Maybe I shouldn't say that, but if you take too much you get hyperthyroid. It is so easy to tell if you have taken too much). So you just cut back to a level that feels good. Mental function is helped quite a bit too. Re: Re: Staningers Theory Doesn't Include Parasites> > Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT)> > > > To me, an agrobacterium/ mold infection makes alot more sense then Staninger's theory, even though her protocol healed many. As I mentioned before, her protocol may have healed many because it involves agressive cleansing and an infrared sauna that helps the body eliminate bacteria, fungus and other things.> > > > I recall when I had a fever from a viral infection early this winter. All symptoms of the morgellans/mite disease completely disappeared while I had the fever. Could it be that my elevated body temperature started to destroy the agrobacteria (or something like it)?  If so, maybe that is why infrared is so effective against this disease - it elevates the body temperature to 42C/107.6 F and the agrobacteria cannot survive that.?> > > > J> > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads./ca/internetexplorer/>