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Hi J,I repeat what I know now about Dr. Staninger's protocol but bear with me, as I'm learning about it too. A few of us here are about to try her protocol and I still have not received my products, but they are literally in the mail and have been shipped. I'm eagerly awaiting as you can imagine. Ramona from Healing Grapevine is the contact person to speak to about your particular situation. Not everyone needs the same products, but if you have Morgellons there are products you will need. Her number is Arizona where she currently resides is (602) 432-2243. She is delightful and willing to talk to you, even in the evening hours and has recovered from Morgellons herself. She does have a MPS sauna, which is the best I think, but according to what I've read, the other mini sauna's like the Rainbow and/or the pad eventually do the same thing, but they take longer. I have time. The program is based on detoxing and the gut is addressed first and foremost. The first product she wanted me to start with is Happy Tummy - to cleanse the gut for 10 days, then again for 20 days (I have to get more info about that). They recommend Kombachu tea which alkalinizes the body (they don't sell it). My husband and I are familiar with that as we did use that active living tea years ago. Find that on the internet. Then there is Chac Mool which deactivates nano materials at 1 dose a day. For her, it did not take long for the Chac Mool to deactivate what was in her system. Ramona stated to me that you don't need Chac Mool AND Willard water as they do similar things and Chac Mool is faster and more intense. I've also ordered something called 1876 Blue Agave Mist. I've forgotten what that is for but you can look it up on the Healing Grapevine website and what it is used for. I also ordered something called "Inner Solutions" that may help me with weight loss. These products are powerful and in some cases you go very easy on them, never take more than the instructions say to take and in the case of Inner Solutions do a lot less than the package says.I did go ahead and buy the Rainbow which is so portable and the FAR infrared pad. My husband and I will both use both products, but he will not be doing all the supplements although he could stand doing the bowel cleanse, but because of his work he won't be able to do the cleansing during the week. He could do it on the week-ends if he was willing. You DO NOT need to have an appointment with Dr. Staninger. I was willing to fly down there as it is an hour from my house by air, but not necessary. That is what the Healing Grapevine is for, so that more of us can access treatment. To get an appointment with her you have to get a referral from a doctor.Maybe if Z3 has time after her appointment today with Sue she can fill you in further on more detail than what I have here and what the office has indicated would be best for her and her husband, this might help further. It would not hurt to call them to get a rundown of what you would need, even if you are still evaluating whether or not you want to take this step. I'm about 75% recovered, but I would like the extra 25% so I can fully participate in life the way I would like. Hope this helped J. Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

I have asked a few times for Dr Staninger's protocol with no luck. Is it possible that someone send me it? I am from Canada and am not able to go all the way to California for a visit.J

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Wow, thanks for all the info !

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 1:21:31 PMSubject: Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

Hi J,I repeat what I know now about Dr. Staninger's protocol but bear with me, as I'm learning about it too. A few of us here are about to try her protocol and I still have not received my products, but they are literally in the mail and have been shipped. I'm eagerly awaiting as you can imagine. Ramona from Healing Grapevine is the contact person to speak to about your particular situation. Not everyone needs the same products, but if you have Morgellons there are products you will need. Her number is Arizona where she currently resides is (602) 432-2243. She is delightful and willing to talk to you, even in the evening hours and has recovered from Morgellons herself. She does have a MPS sauna, which is the best I think, but according to what I've read, the other mini sauna's like the Rainbow and/or the pad eventually do the same thing, but they take longer. I have time. The program is

based on detoxing and the gut is addressed first and foremost. The first product she wanted me to start with is Happy Tummy - to cleanse the gut for 10 days, then again for 20 days (I have to get more info about that). They recommend Kombachu tea which alkalinizes the body (they don't sell it). My husband and I are familiar with that as we did use that active living tea years ago. Find that on the internet. Then there is Chac Mool which deactivates nano materials at 1 dose a day. For her, it did not take long for the Chac Mool to deactivate what was in her system. Ramona stated to me that you don't need Chac Mool AND Willard water as they do similar things and Chac Mool is faster and more intense. I've also ordered something called 1876 Blue Agave Mist. I've forgotten what that is for but you can look it up on the Healing Grapevine website and what it is used for. I also ordered something called

"Inner Solutions" that may help me with weight loss. These products are powerful and in some cases you go very easy on them, never take more than the instructions say to take and in the case of Inner Solutions do a lot less than the package says.I did go ahead and buy the Rainbow which is so portable and the FAR infrared pad. My husband and I will both use both products, but he will not be doing all the supplements although he could stand doing the bowel cleanse, but because of his work he won't be able to do the cleansing during the week. He could do it on the week-ends if he was willing. You DO NOT need to have an appointment with Dr. Staninger. I was willing to fly down there as it is an hour from my house by air, but not necessary. That is what the Healing Grapevine is for, so that more of us can access treatment. To get an appointment with her you have to get a referral from a doctor.Maybe

if Z3 has time after her appointment today with Sue she can fill you in further on more detail than what I have here and what the office has indicated would be best for her and her husband, this might help further. It would not hurt to call them to get a rundown of what you would need, even if you are still evaluating whether or not you want to take this step. I'm about 75% recovered, but I would like the extra 25% so I can fully participate in life the way I would like. Hope this helped J. Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

I have asked a few times for Dr Staninger's protocol with no luck. Is it possible that someone send me it? I am from Canada and am not able to go all the way to California for a visit.J

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J, same here. Can somebody please email me Dr Staninger's protocol? I would

really appreciate it! Thanks, Tony

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possible that someone send me it? I am from Canada and am not able to go all

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Hi TonyHere it is again, or what I know of the protocol. Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

I have asked a few times for Dr Staninger's protocol with no luck. Is it possible that someone send me it? I am from Canada and am not able to go all the way to California for a visit.J

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Hi , sorry about that. i didn't realize you already posted it. Anyway

thanks for reposting. Also I'm excited to hear about how it works for you.

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Hi

Just a quick note to add here, as i spoke with Romona yesterday and she asked if

we would put the email address on the boards, rather than using her personal

number. I must have saved that number below or found it somewhere...can't

remember. But her email address is talk2us@...

Thanks for sharing what she said. I just spoke with her about some of the

products but mainly trying to make a decision as to whether i was going to go

for the big sauna, how hard it is to set up etc. Can't really afford any of

them but am trying to make the best decision here and seek financial help.

xx

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Here are two of many websites that sell the MPS "box" sauna AND mention lease-to-own options for as little as $60 a month. Considering the cost of an hour in the sauna at Dr. Staninger's clinic is $140 (as stated on her website), and the cost of buying the sauna outright ($3600 + 500 shipping), leasing may be well worth investigating.

http://hymbas.com/FarInfraredSaunas/MPS_sauna.html and http://activecarbonfibers.com/ For more, google "MPS sauna".

Best wishes, Sue

Hi Just a quick note to add here, as i spoke with Romona yesterday and she asked if we would put the email address on the boards, rather than using her personal number. I must have saved that number below or found it somewhere...can't remember. But her email address is talk2us@...Thanks for sharing what she said. I just spoke with her about some of the products but mainly trying to make a decision as to whether i was going to go for the big sauna, how hard it is to set up etc. Can't really afford any of them but am trying to make the best decision here and seek financial help. xx Pdidit

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Hi Sue -- Thank you for posting these links. I seem to be google-challenged.

Aloha,

myrtle

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> lease-to-own options for as little as $60 a month. Considering the cost

> of an hour in the sauna at Dr. Staninger's clinic is $140 (as stated on

> her website), and the cost of buying the sauna outright ($3600 + 500

> shipping), leasing may be well worth investigating.

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> <http://hymbas.com/FarInfraredSaunas/MPS_sauna.html> and

> http://activecarbonfibers.com/ <http://activecarbonfibers.com/> For

> more, google " MPS sauna " .

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J, I don't know if anyone has mentioned that Dr S. uses Opaline also. I have been taking this on and off. Maybe Bessie posted how this had helped her. Not Sure. And glad to see you back Bessie! You can find this product elsewhere too, the healing grapevine has a nice write up about Dr S. and Opaline.

http://products.healinggrapevine.com/other-recommended-products/opaline-dry-oxy.htm

http://www.opalinesolutions.com/

She also tells people to eat 10 sprigs a day of cilantro and parsley. I've made this tonic of hers.

http://blog.healinggrapevine.com/fir-intro/8-dr-hildegarde-staningers-cellular-detox-recipe/

B> > Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?> > I have asked a few times for Dr Staninger's protocol with no luck. Is it possible that someone send me it? I am from Canada and am not able to go all the way to California for a visit.> > > > J>

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Thanks Bobby. I have Opaline on order.

J

From: bobbyboyd99 <bobbyboyd99@...>bird mites Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:40:42 PMSubject: Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

J, I don't know if anyone has mentioned that Dr S. uses Opaline also. I have been taking this on and off. Maybe Bessie posted how this had helped her. Not Sure. And glad to see you back Bessie! You can find this product elsewhere too, the healing grapevine has a nice write up about Dr S. and Opaline.

http://products. healinggrapevine .com/other- recommended- products/ opaline-dry- oxy.htm

http://www.opalines olutions. com/

She also tells people to eat 10 sprigs a day of cilantro and parsley. I've made this tonic of hers.

http://blog. healinggrapevine .com/fir- intro/8-dr- hildegarde- staningers- cellular- detox-recipe/

B> > Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?> > I have asked a few times for Dr Staninger's protocol with no luck. Is it possible that someone send me it? I am from Canada and am not able to go all the way to California for a visit.> > > > J>

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Hi LynnThe cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the detoxification process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective very soon... we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda 's flush recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My husband has no sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a lot and has a stronger immune system than I have.Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure others here have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the spring and summer. I noticed several years ago that more bees were flying into things, disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the bees were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say what type of mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or chemicals from bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails. Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

I started eating the cilantro. The bugs do not like it. I use it after meals so that the carbs that turn to sugar will not attract them so. My body has been getting real peaceful breaks now for 4 days. If I do get any bugs its 1 or 2 sometime five but very small and very weak. The ones I still have left are so tiny that I never feel them moving around. Only a slight pinch when they are in a pore hooking in or digging. What ever they do. Than in the shower I can come out clean easily now. Still get some hits from some of the clothes but that group is also smaller and weaker and does not last off and on all day. Just for a few minutes to a couple of hours and than they seem to disapear. I think they die or leave because the food sorce is no long so easy to get to. The last big hand full of bugs I had felt like they were digging and tunneling trying to find the mold or fungas or bacteria so they could eat. I imagine that the products are stronger deeper in and it was suicide for them to do that. The last 4 days have been so wonderful with hardly any bugs to speak of. And again very tiny and very weak bugs. I have felt a different vibration going out from me. So the energy in the body has balanced out and emits properly. The good bugs outside and even the birds seem to react to me now and in a possitive manner. I am worried about the bees around here though. Sense all the Chemtrail spraying up in the sky along with all the orchard spraying in all those orchards surrounding me. I notice the bees struggling. I can fallow the granbaby outside and they will land on the ground nearby and start dying and they do not look like the male bees that die off after breeding season. One got to close to the grandbaby and I was trying to gentle swish him away from the little guy and accadently made contact with the bee. I found this very strange and very troubling sense I was swishing so slowly and bees are fast and could have easily avoided the contact. That told me this bee was off balance and the reaction time to even something so slow and gentle meant trouble for that bee. The bee fell to the ground and set a few minutes befoe recovering and taking off. I like bees even though I have been stung many times while growing up.Glad to hear you are getting better. Hang in there. It is going to take you alot longer to the finish line than me. You were sick alot longer and who knows what vectors you inherited on the way into this nightmare that now have to be worked back out. Big hugs.In Light Lynn>> > J, I don't know if anyone has mentioned that Dr S. uses Opaline also. I> have been taking this on and off. Maybe Bessie posted how this had> helped her. Not Sure. And glad to see you back Bessie! You can find this> product elsewhere too, the healing grapevine has a nice write up about> Dr S. and Opaline.> > http://products.healinggrapevine.com/other-recommended-products/opaline-\> dry-oxy.htm> <http://products.healinggrapevine.com/other-recommended-products/opaline\> -dry-oxy.htm>> > http://www.opalinesolutions.com/ <http://www.opalinesolutions.com/>> > She also tells people to eat 10 sprigs a day of cilantro and parsley.> I've made this tonic of hers.> > > http://blog.healinggrapevine.com/fir-intro/8-dr-hildegarde-staningers-ce\> llular-detox-recipe/> <http://blog.healinggrapevine.com/fir-intro/8-dr-hildegarde-staningers-c\> ellular-detox-recipe/>> > B

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I buy honey from a local farmer who usually produces a few thousand pounds of honey. Last year he produced only a few hundred pounds - his bees are dying off for an unknow reason.

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From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Sun, March 28, 2010 3:05:38 PMSubject: Re: Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

Hi LynnThe cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the detoxification process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective very soon... we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda 's flush recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My husband has no sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a lot and has a stronger immune system than I have.Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure others here have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the spring and summer. I noticed several years ago that more bees were flying into things, disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the bees were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say what type of mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or chemicals from

bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails. Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

I started eating the cilantro. The bugs do not like it. I use it after meals so that the carbs that turn to sugar will not attract them so. My body has been getting real peaceful breaks now for 4 days. If I do get any bugs its 1 or 2 sometime five but very small and very weak. The ones I still have left are so tiny that I never feel them moving around. Only a slight pinch when they are in a pore hooking in or digging. What ever they do. Than in the shower I can come out clean easily now. Still get some hits from some of the clothes but that group is also smaller and weaker and does not last off and on all day. Just for a few minutes to a couple of hours and than they seem to disapear. I think they die or leave because the food sorce is no long so easy to get to. The last big hand full of bugs I had felt like they were digging and tunneling trying to find the mold or fungas or bacteria so they could eat. I imagine that the products are stronger deeper

in and it was suicide for them to do that. The last 4 days have been so wonderful with hardly any bugs to speak of. And again very tiny and very weak bugs. I have felt a different vibration going out from me. So the energy in the body has balanced out and emits properly. The good bugs outside and even the birds seem to react to me now and in a possitive manner. I am worried about the bees around here though. Sense all the Chemtrail spraying up in the sky along with all the orchard spraying in all those orchards surrounding me. I notice the bees struggling. I can fallow the granbaby outside and they will land on the ground nearby and start dying and they do not look like the male bees that die off after breeding season. One got to close to the grandbaby and I was trying to gentle swish him away from the little guy and accadently made contact with the bee. I found this very strange and very troubling sense I was swishing so slowly and bees

are fast and could have easily avoided the contact. That told me this bee was off balance and the reaction time to even something so slow and gentle meant trouble for that bee. The bee fell to the ground and set a few minutes befoe recovering and taking off. I like bees even though I have been stung many times while growing up.Glad to hear you are getting better. Hang in there. It is going to take you alot longer to the finish line than me. You were sick alot longer and who knows what vectors you inherited on the way into this nightmare that now have to be worked back out. Big hugs.In Light Lynn>> > J, I don't know if anyone has mentioned that Dr S. uses

Opaline also. I> have been taking this on and off. Maybe Bessie posted how this had> helped her. Not Sure. And glad to see you back Bessie! You can find this> product elsewhere too, the healing grapevine has a nice write up about> Dr S. and Opaline.> > http://products. healinggrapevine .com/other- recommended- products/ opaline-\> dry-oxy.htm> <http://products. healinggrapevine .com/other- recommended- products/ opaline\> -dry-oxy.htm>> > http://www.opalines olutions. com/ <http://www.opalines olutions. com/>> > She also tells people to eat 10 sprigs a day of cilantro and parsley.> I've made this tonic of hers.> > > http://blog. healinggrapevine .com/fir- intro/8-dr- hildegarde- staningers- ce\> llular-detox- recipe/> <http://blog. healinggrapevine .com/fir- intro/8-dr- hildegarde- staningers- c\> ellular-detox- recipe/>> > B

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Where are you located J S? I believe that many bees are dying too, but hopefully enough will survive to pollinate our fruit trees and plants that sustain life for human beings. Some areas seem to have bees surviving the chemicals. Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

I started eating the cilantro. The bugs do not like it. I use it after meals so that the carbs that turn to sugar will not attract them so. My body has been getting real peaceful breaks now for 4 days. If I do get any bugs its 1 or 2 sometime five but very small and very weak. The ones I still have left are so tiny that I never feel them moving around. Only a slight pinch when they are in a pore hooking in or digging. What ever they do. Than in the shower I can come out clean easily now. Still get some hits from some of the clothes but that group is also smaller and weaker and does not last off and on all day. Just for a few minutes to a couple of hours and than they seem to disapear. I think they die or leave because the food sorce is no long so easy to get to. The last big hand full of bugs I had felt like they were digging and tunneling trying to find the mold or fungas or bacteria so they could eat. I imagine that the products are stronger deeperin and it was suicide for them to do that. The last 4 days have been so wonderful with hardly any bugs to speak of. And again very tiny and very weak bugs. I have felt a different vibration going out from me. So the energy in the body has balanced out and emits properly. The good bugs outside and even the birds seem to react to me now and in a possitive manner. I am worried about the bees around here though. Sense all the Chemtrail spraying up in the sky along with all the orchard spraying in all those orchards surrounding me. I notice the bees struggling. I can fallow the granbaby outside and they will land on the ground nearby and start dying and they do not look like the male bees that die off after breeding season. One got to close to the grandbaby and I was trying to gentle swish him away from the little guy and accadently made contact with the bee. I found this very strange and very troubling sense I was swishing so slowly and beesare fast and could have easily avoided the contact. That told me this bee was off balance and the reaction time to even something so slow and gentle meant trouble for that bee. The bee fell to the ground and set a few minutes befoe recovering and taking off. I like bees even though I have been stung many times while growing up.Glad to hear you are getting better. Hang in there. It is going to take you alot longer to the finish line than me. You were sick alot longer and who knows what vectors you inherited on the way into this nightmare that now have to be worked back out. Big hugs.In Light Lynn>> > J, I don't know if anyone has mentioned that Dr S. usesOpaline also. I> have been taking this on and off. Maybe Bessie posted how this had> helped her. Not Sure. And glad to see you back Bessie! You can find this> product elsewhere too, the healing grapevine has a nice write up about> Dr S. and Opaline.> > http://products. healinggrapevine .com/other- recommended- products/ opaline-\> dry-oxy.htm> <http://products. healinggrapevine .com/other- recommended- products/ opaline\> -dry-oxy.htm>> > http://www.opalines olutions. com/ <http://www.opalines olutions. com/>> > She also tells people to eat 10 sprigs a day of cilantro and parsley.> I've made this tonic of hers.> > > http://blog. healinggrapevine .com/fir- intro/8-dr- hildegarde- staningers- ce\> llular-detox- recipe/> <http://blog. healinggrapevine .com/fir- intro/8-dr- hildegarde- staningers- c\> ellular-detox- recipe/>> > B

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From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Sun, March 28, 2010 3:17:35 PMSubject: Re: Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

Where are you located J S? I believe that many bees are dying too, but hopefully enough will survive to pollinate our fruit trees and plants that sustain life for human beings. Some areas seem to have bees surviving the chemicals. Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

I started eating the cilantro. The bugs do not like it. I use it after meals so that the carbs that turn to sugar will not attract them so. My body has been getting real peaceful breaks now for 4 days. If I do get any bugs its 1 or 2 sometime five but very small and very weak. The ones I still have left are so tiny that I never feel them moving around. Only a slight pinch when they are in a pore hooking in or digging. What ever they do. Than in the shower I can come out clean easily now. Still get some hits from some of the clothes but that group is also smaller and weaker and does not last off and on all day. Just for a few minutes to a couple of hours and than they seem to disapear. I think they die or leave because the food sorce is no long so easy to get to. The last big hand full of bugs I had felt like they were digging and tunneling trying to find the mold or fungas or bacteria so they could eat. I imagine that the products are stronger

deeperin and it was suicide for them to do that. The last 4 days have been so wonderful with hardly any bugs to speak of. And again very tiny and very weak bugs. I have felt a different vibration going out from me. So the energy in the body has balanced out and emits properly. The good bugs outside and even the birds seem to react to me now and in a possitive manner. I am worried about the bees around here though. Sense all the Chemtrail spraying up in the sky along with all the orchard spraying in all those orchards surrounding me. I notice the bees struggling. I can fallow the granbaby outside and they will land on the ground nearby and start dying and they do not look like the male bees that die off after breeding season. One got to close to the grandbaby and I was trying to gentle swish him away from the little guy and accadently made contact with the bee. I found this very strange and very troubling sense I was swishing so

slowly and beesare fast and could have easily avoided the contact. That told me this bee was off balance and the reaction time to even something so slow and gentle meant trouble for that bee. The bee fell to the ground and set a few minutes befoe recovering and taking off. I like bees even though I have been stung many times while growing up.Glad to hear you are getting better. Hang in there. It is going to take you alot longer to the finish line than me. You were sick alot longer and who knows what vectors you inherited on the way into this nightmare that now have to be worked back out. Big hugs.In Light Lynn>> > J, I don't know if anyone has

mentioned that Dr S. usesOpaline also. I> have been taking this on and off. Maybe Bessie posted how this had> helped her. Not Sure. And glad to see you back Bessie! You can find this> product elsewhere too, the healing grapevine has a nice write up about> Dr S. and Opaline.> > http://products. healinggrapevine .com/other- recommended- products/ opaline-\> dry-oxy.htm> <http://products. healinggrapevine .com/other- recommended- products/ opaline\> -dry-oxy.htm>> > http://www.opalines

olutions. com/ <http://www.opalines olutions. com/>> > She also tells people to eat 10 sprigs a day of cilantro and parsley.> I've made this tonic of hers.> > > http://blog. healinggrapevine .com/fir- intro/8-dr- hildegarde- staningers- ce\> llular-detox- recipe/> <http://blog. healinggrapevine .com/fir- intro/8-dr- hildegarde- staningers- c\> ellular-detox- recipe/>> > B

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The Truth About Infrared. Save your money folks.

March 23, 2010

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-news.htm

Many asked me about infrared sauna...

I brought up 5 years ago, that it would be good to sweat out toxins and removing

some biofilm using a sauna.

The fabulous Dr. Stanninger took it over to sell pricey infrared saunas...

Most who used infrared wrote me that they had first some small success but

nothing more!!

Why? Because the fungus or else, just goes deeper into skin but never in

direction of the heat!!

Sounds logical, not?

So you will have just a temporary reliefe when they move from skin surface into

subcutanous areas.

That`s all folks, but no cure of a systemic disease. Morgellons is not a skin

disease, I am tired to repeat this fact!!!

You can buy e.g. also a cheaper home-sauna with a vaporizator (140 U.S. Dollar)

http://www.1stvitality.co.uk/therapy/saunas/index.html

http://qnhealth.com/id96.html

http://www.sauna-talk.com/portable-steam-saunas.html

http://www.ycyhealth.com/products/SteamSauna/IG290P.asp

Or google for other companies in U.S.

To clean up cloth and environment you can try also an UVC light to kill mites,

bugs and germs etc.

http://www.purelight.ca/

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5 & item=337881

http://store.softwareandbeyond.net/purelight1.html

http://www.hepalta.com/ionizer/PureLightXD-2D04.html

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> > Hi Lynn

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> > The cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the detoxification

process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective very soon...

we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda 's flush

recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My husband has no

sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a lot and has a

stronger immune system than I have.

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> > Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure others here

have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the spring and

summer. I noticed several years ago that more bees were flying into things,

disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the bees

were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say what type of

mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or

chemicals from bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be

that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as

Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office

which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots

of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so

maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails.

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Lynn love you to dear but this disease is internal, it must be addressed as

such. Even if you disagree at least shop Staningers is to salty in price. The

morgellons conference was this week-end, excited to see the outcome.

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> > > > Hi Lynn

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> > > > The cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the detoxification

process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective very soon...

we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda 's flush

recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My husband has no

sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a lot and has a

stronger immune system than I have.

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> > > > Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure others

here have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the spring

and summer. I noticed several years ago that more bees were flying into things,

disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the bees

were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say what type of

mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or

chemicals from bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be

that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as

Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office

which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots

of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so

maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails.

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Now Lynn, Don't be getting all happy with the birds. NO NESTING anywhere near

you, lollol. You have worked so hard and are doing so well! I am so happy for

you. And I'm chewing my cilantro cud right now! Thanks for the sweetness

(without the sugar hehe).

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> > have been taking this on and off. Maybe Bessie posted how this had

> > helped her. Not Sure. And glad to see you back Bessie! You can find this

> > product elsewhere too, the healing grapevine has a nice write up about

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I'm there with you Lynn on this one. She probably never even used a FIR and has

just read that they don't work. The FIR has been helping me so much lately. My

body core temp is so low I never warmed up to the point where I sweated heavily

when I used my FIR. Now I take a 20 minute hot bath, a shot of Dr S. cayenne

tonic, some hot ginger tea, and warm the FIR up for a while before I get in. At

the 45 minute mark, gunk starts coming out with gentle massaging, non stop, day

after day. I've been doing this for three weeks and from what I've read Dr S.

says it will take at least 60 days. Something bad is definately coming out of me

from using the FIR. Funny that Morgie sites post stuff like this dish on Dr S.

and she is one of the few people that are actually successful in getting

" cures " . I don't see many of these Morgie sites offering a program that is

curing. Bessie just fell on the floor after she read what I just said, lollol.

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> > > > The cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the detoxification

process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective very soon...

we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda 's flush

recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My husband has no

sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a lot and has a

stronger immune system than I have.

> > > >

> > > > Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure others

here have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the spring

and summer. I noticed several years ago that more bees were flying into things,

disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the bees

were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say what type of

mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or

chemicals from bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be

that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as

Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office

which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots

of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so

maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails.

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Bobby If not cured I would give the infrared a whirl, just more cost effective.

I am still 100% over this creature, however I did still see a few springtails

outside already.:( After them. Did you read the survey or contribute your part

yet? Also for anyone interested the insecticide for springtails is now changed

to Cyonara. Little suckers already morphed.:)

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/bifen-granules-p-227.html

Bifen Granules recently had a product label change and the new label no longer

lists springtails as a target pest. We recommend Cyonara Granules to control

springtails and they can be used as a perimeter application or over your entire

lawn. Children can safely return to the treated area after it is completely dry.

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> > > > > The cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the

detoxification process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective

very soon... we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda

's flush recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My

husband has no sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a

lot and has a stronger immune system than I have.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure others

here have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the spring

and summer. I noticed several years ago that more bees were flying into things,

disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the bees

were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say what type of

mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or

chemicals from bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be

that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as

Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office

which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots

of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so

maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails.

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It seems as though some here have benefitted from long term use of FIR saunas, so the results are mixed. FIR penetrates 2 to 3 inches into your body, so for some skinny people here, that is nearly their entire body right through (from both sides 2.5 x 2 = 5 inches).

J

From: healinghope <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sun, March 28, 2010 4:00:36 PMSubject: Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

The Truth About Infrared. Save your money folks.March 23, 2010http://www.morgello ns-research. org/morgellons/ morgellons- news.htmMany asked me about infrared sauna...I brought up 5 years ago, that it would be good to sweat out toxins and removing some biofilm using a sauna.The fabulous Dr. Stanninger took it over to sell pricey infrared saunas...Most who used infrared wrote me that they had first some small success but nothing more!!Why? Because the fungus or else, just goes deeper into skin but never in direction of the heat!!Sounds logical, not?So you will have just a temporary reliefe when they move from skin surface into subcutanous areas.That`s all folks, but no cure of a systemic disease. Morgellons is not a skin disease, I am tired to repeat this fact!!!You can

buy e.g. also a cheaper home-sauna with a vaporizator (140 U.S. Dollar)http://www.1stvital ity.co.uk/ therapy/saunas/ index.htmlhttp://qnhealth. com/id96. htmlhttp://www.sauna- talk.com/ portable- steam-saunas. htmlhttp://www.ycyhealt h.com/products/ SteamSauna/ IG290P.aspOr google for other companies in U.S.To clean up cloth and environment you can try also an UVC light to kill mites, bugs and germs etc.http://www.pureligh t.ca/http://www.samsclub .com/shopping/ navigate. do?dest=5 & item=337881http://store. softwareandbeyon d.net/purelight1 .htmlhttp://www.hepalta. com/ionizer/ PureLightXD- 2D04.html> >> > Hi Lynn> > > > The cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the detoxification process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective very soon... we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda 's flush recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My husband has no sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a lot and has a stronger immune system than I have.> > > > Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure others here have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the spring and summer. I noticed several

years ago that more bees were flying into things, disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the bees were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say what type of mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or chemicals from bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails. > > > > >

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Infrared penetrates and treats internal problems 2 to 3 inches below the layer of skin. That means muscles and organs. Some have had excellent results here.

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Lynn love you to dear but this disease is internal, it must be addressed as such. Even if you disagree at least shop Staningers is to salty in price. The morgellons conference was this week-end, excited to see the outcome.> > > >> > > > Hi Lynn> > > > > > > > The cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the detoxification process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective very soon... we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda 's flush recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My husband has no sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a lot and has a stronger immune system than I have.> > > > > > > > Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure others here have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the spring and summer. I noticed several years ago that more bees were flying into things, disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the bees were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say

what type of mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or chemicals from bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails. > > > > > > > > > > >> >>

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Thanks J S. So maybe the bees disappearing IS worldwide. I wasn't sure of that. Re: Dr Staninger's Protocol Please?

I started eating the cilantro. The bugs do not like it. I use it after meals so that the carbs that turn to sugar will not attract them so. My body has been getting real peaceful breaks now for 4 days. If I do get any bugs its 1 or 2 sometime five but very small and very weak. The ones I still have left are so tiny that I never feel them moving around. Only a slight pinch when they are in a pore hooking in or digging. What ever they do. Than in the shower I can come out clean easily now. Still get some hits from some of the clothes but that group is also smaller and weaker and does not last off and on all day. Just for a few minutes to a couple of hours and than they seem to disapear. I think they die or leave because the food sorce is no long so easy to get to. The last big hand full of bugs I had felt like they were digging and tunneling trying to find the mold or fungas or bacteria so they could eat. I imagine that the products are strongerdeeperin and it was suicide for them to do that. The last 4 days have been so wonderful with hardly any bugs to speak of. And again very tiny and very weak bugs. I have felt a different vibration going out from me. So the energy in the body has balanced out and emits properly. The good bugs outside and even the birds seem to react to me now and in a possitive manner. I am worried about the bees around here though. Sense all the Chemtrail spraying up in the sky along with all the orchard spraying in all those orchards surrounding me. I notice the bees struggling. I can fallow the granbaby outside and they will land on the ground nearby and start dying and they do not look like the male bees that die off after breeding season. One got to close to the grandbaby and I was trying to gentle swish him away from the little guy and accadently made contact with the bee. I found this very strange and very troubling sense I was swishing soslowly and beesare fast and could have easily avoided the contact. That told me this bee was off balance and the reaction time to even something so slow and gentle meant trouble for that bee. The bee fell to the ground and set a few minutes befoe recovering and taking off. I like bees even though I have been stung many times while growing up.Glad to hear you are getting better. Hang in there. It is going to take you alot longer to the finish line than me. You were sick alot longer and who knows what vectors you inherited on the way into this nightmare that now have to be worked back out. Big hugs.In Light Lynn>> > J, I don't know if anyone hasmentioned that Dr S. usesOpaline also. I> have been taking this on and off. Maybe Bessie posted how this had> helped her. Not Sure. And glad to see you back Bessie! You can find this> product elsewhere too, the healing grapevine has a nice write up about> Dr S. and Opaline.> > http://products. healinggrapevine .com/other- recommended- products/ opaline-\> dry-oxy.htm> <http://products. healinggrapevine .com/other- recommended- products/ opaline\> -dry-oxy.htm>> > http://www.opalinesolutions. com/ <http://www.opalines olutions. com/>> > She also tells people to eat 10 sprigs a day of cilantro and parsley.> I've made this tonic of hers.> > > http://blog. healinggrapevine .com/fir- intro/8-dr- hildegarde- staningers- ce\> llular-detox- recipe/> <http://blog. healinggrapevine .com/fir- intro/8-dr- hildegarde- staningers- c\> ellular-detox- recipe/>> > B

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Lynn Have already tested the orange guard on springtails last year, yes it will

kill them.

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> > > > > > > Hi Lynn

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the

detoxification process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective

very soon... we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda

's flush recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My

husband has no sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a

lot and has a stronger immune system than I have.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure

others here have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the

spring and summer. I noticed several years ago that more bees were flying into

things, disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the

bees were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say what type of

mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or

chemicals from bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be

that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as

Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office

which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots

of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so

maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails.

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lynn will kill but no residual effect or long lasting only knock down.

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> > > > > > > > Hi Lynn

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> > > > > > > > The cilantro can only help the body as I see it with the

detoxification process. Good for you! Detox is going to be my prime objective

very soon... we've done gallbladder flushes and noted an improvement from Hulda

's flush recipes followed to the absolute T. Can't deviate from it. My

husband has no sensations of any kind any longer. He is also out in the sun a

lot and has a stronger immune system than I have.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hey, I wanted to comment on what you said about bees. I'm sure

others here have noticed the same thing with bees they normally see during the

spring and summer. I noticed several years ago that more bees were flying into

things, disoriented. I also know that one point there was speculation that the

bees were experiencing colony collapse because of mites (didn't say what type of

mite), but then they speculated that it was cell phone irradiation , or

chemicals from bioengineered agricultural sprays. Who knows, but could it be

that they and other insects are experiencing similar types of symptoms as

Morgellons peeps? I have a large rosemary bush out my sliding door by my office

which is covered in bees while the flowers are in bloom. There are still lots

of bees there, so that is a good sign. I can see a few dozen right now, so

maybe they will survive the onslaught of chemtrails.

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