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This is something that has really been bothering me since DD was born

almost 5 months ago.

I wrote a very specific birth plan that stated NO VACCINES or drugs

for me or the baby; no IV, no pain meds, no Hep B, no vitamin K, no

eye ointment...nothing at all. The midwife on call and everybody

else who I remember coming into contact with seemed to follow our

wishes until I had some pretty serious postpartum hemorrhaging. The

delivery itself was drug-free, but once I got out of the birthing tub

they insisted on giving me an IV and several shots to try and stop

the bleeding. DH stayed with DD, but I had to call across the room

while they dealt with my bleeding to find out how much she weighed,

what time she was born, etc. Very frustrating.

The next afternoon I was told my hemaglobin had dropped from 13 at my

last prenatal appt to 7 after the birth. I felt so weak and tired,

and for some reason let a nurse take DD out of the room to do the PKU

and hearing test. This decision has haunted me. DD came back a

while later sound asleep, but with a HUGE black bruise on the back of

her hand from the PKU. And I have always worried that she may also

have been given Hep B or something else I specifically told them not

to give, against my wishes. (whether they were aware of my wishes or

not)

Am I being paranoid? Is there any way to find out one way or the

other, just to put my mind at ease? Does this really happen (nurses

giving shots without getting consent from the parents/without telling

them that's what they're taking the baby for?) This has seriously

been weighing on me for several months and every time I hear somebody

say " don't let baby out of your sight in the hospital " I get a

horrible sinking feeling in my stomach. I never should have allowed

them to take her, but I was so sick and tired I just wasn't thinking.

Alyssa in MN

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Here in Iowa you can actually get your own medical records for your very own

self, but in other states you need to have your doctor ask for them. I

would ask your doctor to get the records from the hospital. Heaven forbid

she was given anything, you can raise holy hell about it for her and for

every baby that comes after her. Here's to you being paranoid, instead of

right!

Maeghan

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Subject: Allowing newborn out of your sight in hospital after

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This is something that has really been bothering me since DD was born

almost 5 months ago.

I wrote a very specific birth plan that stated NO VACCINES or drugs

for me or the baby; no IV, no pain meds, no Hep B, no vitamin K, no

eye ointment...nothing at all. The midwife on call and everybody

else who I remember coming into contact with seemed to follow our

wishes until I had some pretty serious postpartum hemorrhaging. The

delivery itself was drug-free, but once I got out of the birthing tub

they insisted on giving me an IV and several shots to try and stop

the bleeding. DH stayed with DD, but I had to call across the room

while they dealt with my bleeding to find out how much she weighed,

what time she was born, etc. Very frustrating.

The next afternoon I was told my hemaglobin had dropped from 13 at my

last prenatal appt to 7 after the birth. I felt so weak and tired,

and for some reason let a nurse take DD out of the room to do the PKU

and hearing test. This decision has haunted me. DD came back a

while later sound asleep, but with a HUGE black bruise on the back of

her hand from the PKU. And I have always worried that she may also

have been given Hep B or something else I specifically told them not

to give, against my wishes. (whether they were aware of my wishes or

not)

Am I being paranoid? Is there any way to find out one way or the

other, just to put my mind at ease? Does this really happen (nurses

giving shots without getting consent from the parents/without telling

them that's what they're taking the baby for?) This has seriously

been weighing on me for several months and every time I hear somebody

say " don't let baby out of your sight in the hospital " I get a

horrible sinking feeling in my stomach. I never should have allowed

them to take her, but I was so sick and tired I just wasn't thinking.

Alyssa in MN

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When I refused the hep B vax the Drs and nurses all told me they need

written consent to give the vaccine. It will all be written down in

your baby's records, which you can get. But if anything would have

been given without your knowledge, I would assume the eye ointment

over anything, it's habit for the nurses. As far as vaccines are

involved, they should be required to ask you first, and it is illegal

for them to lie about it.

Good luck

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On Apr 1, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

> Hi Alyssa,

> I'm so sorry you are going through this - all of you are going

> through this. It is just so sick what has been done to us/ is being

> done to us.

>

> You can ask for a copy of your baby's hospital records and hopefully

> that will ease your mind.

>

> My heart goes out to you

> Sheri

>

> >This is something that has really been bothering me since DD was born

> >almost 5 months ago.

> >

> >I wrote a very specific birth plan that stated NO VACCINES or drugs

> >for me or the baby; no IV, no pain meds, no Hep B, no vitamin K, no

> >eye ointment...nothing at all. The midwife on call and everybody

> >else who I remember coming into contact with seemed to follow our

> >wishes until I had some pretty serious postpartum hemorrhaging. The

> >delivery itself was drug-free, but once I got out of the birthing tub

> >they insisted on giving me an IV and several shots to try and stop

> >the bleeding. DH stayed with DD, but I had to call across the room

> >while they dealt with my bleeding to find out how much she weighed,

> >what time she was born, etc. Very frustrating.

> >

> >The next afternoon I was told my hemaglobin had dropped from 13 at my

> >last prenatal appt to 7 after the birth. I felt so weak and tired,

> >and for some reason let a nurse take DD out of the room to do the PKU

> >and hearing test. This decision has haunted me. DD came back a

> >while later sound asleep, but with a HUGE black bruise on the back of

> >her hand from the PKU. And I have always worried that she may also

> >have been given Hep B or something else I specifically told them not

> >to give, against my wishes. (whether they were aware of my wishes or

> >not)

> >

> >Am I being paranoid? Is there any way to find out one way or the

> >other, just to put my mind at ease? Does this really happen (nurses

> >giving shots without getting consent from the parents/without telling

> >them that's what they're taking the baby for?) This has seriously

> >been weighing on me for several months and every time I hear somebody

> >say " don't let baby out of your sight in the hospital " I get a

> >horrible sinking feeling in my stomach. I never should have allowed

> >them to take her, but I was so sick and tired I just wasn't thinking.

>

> >Alyssa in MN

> >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >

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AND you ask for an itemized bill from accounting. If it was

administered, it will be on that bill. I declined the shot with

Christian and he got it anyway.. the hospital tried to tell me I had to

pay it b/c it had been given and I said ‘no way. I didn’t authorize it,

I’m not paying it”.. they charged like 112 for the vaccine and 12 to

administer it.

Insurance said they don’t pay for vaccines given in the hospital –then

they paid it anyway. Idiots.

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Hi Alyssa,

I'm so sorry you are going through this - all of you are going

through this. It is just so sick what has been done to us/ is being

done to us.

You can ask for a copy of your baby's hospital records and hopefully

that will ease your mind.

My heart goes out to you

Sheri

>This is something that has really been bothering me since DD was born

>almost 5 months ago.

>

>I wrote a very specific birth plan that stated NO VACCINES or drugs

>for me or the baby; no IV, no pain meds, no Hep B, no vitamin K, no

>eye ointment...nothing at all. The midwife on call and everybody

>else who I remember coming into contact with seemed to follow our

>wishes until I had some pretty serious postpartum hemorrhaging. The

>delivery itself was drug-free, but once I got out of the birthing tub

>they insisted on giving me an IV and several shots to try and stop

>the bleeding. DH stayed with DD, but I had to call across the room

>while they dealt with my bleeding to find out how much she weighed,

>what time she was born, etc. Very frustrating.

>

>The next afternoon I was told my hemaglobin had dropped from 13 at my

>last prenatal appt to 7 after the birth. I felt so weak and tired,

>and for some reason let a nurse take DD out of the room to do the PKU

>and hearing test. This decision has haunted me. DD came back a

>while later sound asleep, but with a HUGE black bruise on the back of

>her hand from the PKU. And I have always worried that she may also

>have been given Hep B or something else I specifically told them not

>to give, against my wishes. (whether they were aware of my wishes or

>not)

>

>Am I being paranoid? Is there any way to find out one way or the

>other, just to put my mind at ease? Does this really happen (nurses

>giving shots without getting consent from the parents/without telling

>them that's what they're taking the baby for?) This has seriously

>been weighing on me for several months and every time I hear somebody

>say " don't let baby out of your sight in the hospital " I get a

>horrible sinking feeling in my stomach. I never should have allowed

>them to take her, but I was so sick and tired I just wasn't thinking.

>Alyssa in MN

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

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Just wanted to let you know that I totally understand where you are

coming from. I had a scheduled homebirth with my second but ended up

with a C-section. My birth plan was similar to yours including no

formula. Well, I had some complications with my surgery and didn't

get out of surgery as quickly as they had hoped. Plus I didn't know

that the hospital did glucose test for babies over 9 pounds. Well, I

had prodromal labor for two weeks and really long active labor before

the C-section, so it made sense that my son had a slightly low

glucose level. They didn't let us know they were going to draw his

blood and test him plus they gave him two bottles of formula. The

first bottle I can sort of see their reasoning, but the next one was

simply that they were two busy to bring him down to me. It took them

five hours after I got out of surgery for them to finally bring him

to me. We had to ask four times. When they brought him, he had a

pacifier in his mouth (something else we said for them not to give to

him). I promptly threw that in the trash can in front of the nurse.

At the time, I wished I had asked my husband to go with the baby

instead of letting him stay with me through the surgery.

I hope they didn't do anything to your child that you didn't want.

When my baby was released from the hospital, I had a discharge form

for my family doctor. In there, it gave a summary of what was

given. If they gave any vaccinations at the time, they should have

it written in there. If you do not have one, you can call the

hospital and ask for the records. They might charge you but if your

doctor asks for it, they'll send it free of charge.

Good luck.

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There should be a record of it at the hospital. I would ask them. Actually I

always wondered about that for one of my son's, even though they told me that in

1992 they didn't have the Hep B in our area yet. I did ask the pediatrician who

had the records from the hospital and he confirmed it was not listed as being

given. I still wonder since he knew I would have flipped out.....

Maybe ask it of the hospital as if you're confident your child was given it, and

see if they will say, oh, yes, indeed we gave it. But it should be on there.

Winnie

Allowing newborn out of your sight in hospital after

birth

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> This is something that has really been bothering me since DD was

> born

> almost 5 months ago.

>

> I wrote a very specific birth plan that stated NO VACCINES or

> drugs

> for me or the baby; no IV, no pain meds, no Hep B, no vitamin K,

> no

> eye ointment...nothing at all. The midwife on call and

> everybody

> else who I remember coming into contact with seemed to follow

> our

> wishes until I had some pretty serious postpartum hemorrhaging.

> The

> delivery itself was drug-free, but once I got out of the

> birthing tub

> they insisted on giving me an IV and several shots to try and

> stop

> the bleeding. DH stayed with DD, but I had to call across the

> room

> while they dealt with my bleeding to find out how much she

> weighed,

> what time she was born, etc. Very frustrating.

>

> The next afternoon I was told my hemaglobin had dropped from 13

> at my

> last prenatal appt to 7 after the birth. I felt so weak and

> tired,

> and for some reason let a nurse take DD out of the room to do

> the PKU

> and hearing test. This decision has haunted me. DD came back a

> while later sound asleep, but with a HUGE black bruise on the

> back of

> her hand from the PKU. And I have always worried that she may

> also

> have been given Hep B or something else I specifically told them

> not

> to give, against my wishes. (whether they were aware of my

> wishes or

> not)

>

> Am I being paranoid? Is there any way to find out one way or

> the

> other, just to put my mind at ease? Does this really happen

> (nurses

> giving shots without getting consent from the parents/without

> telling

> them that's what they're taking the baby for?) This has

> seriously

> been weighing on me for several months and every time I hear

> somebody

> say " don't let baby out of your sight in the hospital " I get a

> horrible sinking feeling in my stomach. I never should have

> allowed

> them to take her, but I was so sick and tired I just wasn't thinking.

>

> Alyssa in MN

>

>

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That's a shame. I didn't want my baby to leave my sight either, I had

a c-section and I sent my hubby to stay with her the entire time. I

didn't know enough about the vita K shot and allowed that, and she had

a reaction (or what I think was one). After they administered it she

had an irregular heartbeat and had difficulty breathing. They wound

up keeping her in the nursery for FIVE hours without me seeing her,

and insisted on transferring her " down " to the PIC U. I flipped out

and my husband just took her from them and brought her to me, and I

wouldn't let her leave my sight after that. I too was nervous about

leaving her.

It's a shame we have to worry about what they are going to do with our

babies when we are not with them.

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On Apr 1, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

> At 09:24 AM 4/1/2008, you wrote:

> >When I refused the hep B vax the Drs and nurses all told me they need

> >written consent to give the vaccine. It will all be written down in

> >your baby's records, which you can get. But if anything would have

> >been given without your knowledge, I would assume the eye ointment

> >over anything, it's habit for the nurses. As far as vaccines are

> >involved, they should be required to ask you first, and it is illegal

> >for them to lie about it.

> >Good luck

> > : )

>

> Yes, but doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

> They do it routinely

> Sheri

>

>

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First, get the hospital records. They will show everything done to your baby.

Second, though I

don't understand the back of the hand bruise (I don't do ped's) but usually,

blood is drawn

from the heel on babies, was there a bandaid on her thigh? That's where babies

will get their

shots, in the thigh. If there wasn't then there is a safe bet that she did not

receive any shots.

Your hematocrit dropping that much is serious, it's a big bleed, don't beat

yourself up.

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At 09:24 AM 4/1/2008, you wrote:

>When I refused the hep B vax the Drs and nurses all told me they need

>written consent to give the vaccine. It will all be written down in

>your baby's records, which you can get. But if anything would have

>been given without your knowledge, I would assume the eye ointment

>over anything, it's habit for the nurses. As far as vaccines are

>involved, they should be required to ask you first, and it is illegal

>for them to lie about it.

>Good luck

> : )

Yes, but doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

They do it routinely

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Written consent to *give* the vaccine? That’s new. Usually it’s written

refusal. We never signed consent to give for Christian, they gave and

tried to get us to sign consent after…. Hahahahaah that went over like a

lead balloon.

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First, yes it most certainly does and a friend is still in court right

now with a local hospital because they circed her son when she clearly

and repeatedly told them not to.

Second, to help put your mind at ease I would contact her doc or the

hospital and ask to get a copy of her medical records. It may cost

you a slight charge for copying them, but well worth it and if they

did do anything it will be in there. They don't need to know why you

want them.

I also had some severe post partum hemoraghing with my son and got a

shot of pit after birth. I wasn't happy, but it was better then the

alternative.

My DH went with my son every time he had to be taken from the room and

with my daughter the hospital I deleivered in doesn't even have a

nursery so she had to room in and anything like the PKU and etc was

done in my room. I was not allowed out of bed so if it hadn't been

for DH my son would have been taken from me I am sure.

I really hope nothing was done without your permission, but don't beat

yourself up too much if it was. You are doing your best and at least

you are informed enough to make the decision even if it is ignored

sometimes.

>

> This is something that has really been bothering me since DD was born

> almost 5 months ago.

>

> I wrote a very specific birth plan that stated NO VACCINES or drugs

> for me or the baby; no IV, no pain meds, no Hep B, no vitamin K, no

> eye ointment...nothing at all. The midwife on call and everybody

> else who I remember coming into contact with seemed to follow our

> wishes until I had some pretty serious postpartum hemorrhaging. The

> delivery itself was drug-free, but once I got out of the birthing tub

> they insisted on giving me an IV and several shots to try and stop

> the bleeding. DH stayed with DD, but I had to call across the room

> while they dealt with my bleeding to find out how much she weighed,

> what time she was born, etc. Very frustrating.

>

> The next afternoon I was told my hemaglobin had dropped from 13 at my

> last prenatal appt to 7 after the birth. I felt so weak and tired,

> and for some reason let a nurse take DD out of the room to do the PKU

> and hearing test. This decision has haunted me. DD came back a

> while later sound asleep, but with a HUGE black bruise on the back of

> her hand from the PKU. And I have always worried that she may also

> have been given Hep B or something else I specifically told them not

> to give, against my wishes. (whether they were aware of my wishes or

> not)

>

> Am I being paranoid? Is there any way to find out one way or the

> other, just to put my mind at ease? Does this really happen (nurses

> giving shots without getting consent from the parents/without telling

> them that's what they're taking the baby for?) This has seriously

> been weighing on me for several months and every time I hear somebody

> say " don't let baby out of your sight in the hospital " I get a

> horrible sinking feeling in my stomach. I never should have allowed

> them to take her, but I was so sick and tired I just wasn't thinking.

>

> Alyssa in MN

>

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FWIW, you can get your own records for yourself in any state, they're

legally yours & you have a right to them, period. BUT they have a

little loophole that allows them to charge you copying fees- some are

more than others, but you don't HAVE to have a dr. get them for you &

IMO, i think everyone should request their records for themselves

ANYWAY.

& just b/c it's on the itemized bill, does't necessarily mean they

did it either. there's often times little things that are tacked on

there that were never given or done- meds, pain med injections, etc.

lots of things. so you should go over both (your records, & the

itemized bill, plus what you KNOW to be true) to determine if they're

trying to get paid for something they didn't do.

in my records, there were quite a few things ordered & said to be

administered (per nurses notes) yet, i know for a FACT they were

never administered.

but i would be curious to see what the nurses notes include on your

baby, they should include any shots that were given, etc.

~Marcia~

>

> Here in Iowa you can actually get your own medical records for your

very own

> self, but in other states you need to have your doctor ask for

them. I

> would ask your doctor to get the records from the hospital. Heaven

forbid

> she was given anything, you can raise holy hell about it for her

and for

> every baby that comes after her. Here's to you being paranoid,

instead of

> right!

>

>

>

> Maeghan

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not necessaily- i had a c/s w/ my son & b/c he was just over 9# they

insisted on heel sticks, before i got my hands on him over 4hrs later,

they'd stuck his heels a total of 12 times! & they'd given him the vit

K & Hep B shots & he never had bandaids anywhere. when we discharged

they decided his billiruben was too high & were going to keep him & i

got PISSED, they called the ped at home & let me talk to him & he had

them pull a veinous sample to do the billi (instead of another heel

prick) & it came back different than their stupid little forehead light

tester thing. that was the only prick that got a bandaid & it was in

his inner elbow, not the back of his hand.

i've attended a few other births of friends & they've never put

bandaids on the babies after shots, etc either so it's not really a

good indicator if they gave the shots or not.

~marcia~

>

> First, get the hospital records. They will show everything done to

your baby. Second, though I

> don't understand the back of the hand bruise (I don't do ped's) but

usually, blood is drawn

> from the heel on babies, was there a bandaid on her thigh? That's

where babies will get their

> shots, in the thigh. If there wasn't then there is a safe bet that

she did not receive any shots.

> Your hematocrit dropping that much is serious, it's a big bleed,

don't beat yourself up.

>

> Hope this helps, doris

>

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I'm working on a legal case where a young father said NO to a Hep B vaccination

after his baby was born, and someone informed him " It's the law " and pulled the

baby right out of his arms to do. No consent, no signature and an expressed

denial. I have the vaccine record. There is NO signature on the parent line. He

said no because his older child was unvaccinated due to my years of research on

the subject and a family history of vaccine adverse events. That older child is

my only grandchild and the younger one her half-sister.

Two or 3 days later, she didn't want to eat, her eyes rolled back and she became

unresponsive to " finger-snapping " and voice and appeared to stop breathing. Four

miserable days later she was released from the hospital after they diagnosed

strep and staph infecting her blood, gave her dangerous antibiotics, then

decided arbitrarily that it " must " have been a contaminated blood sample,

although she did have high bilirubin and jaundice.

That progressed into symptoms that became more serious about 21 days later, and

at 28 days were at a critical stage--not that showed in her behavior, which was

mostly a high-pitched cry, but in x-rays and a CT scan which was diagnosed as

" Shaken Baby Syndrome " which eventually put the parents in prison for a combined

24 years. Just " coincidentally " every single sign and symptom she had exactly

matches infantile scurvy, which I found by going over at least 150 years of

medical history on the subject--brain swelling and hemorrhaging, retinal and

conjunctival hemorrhaging, abnormal bruising, broken bones or the appearance

there of from blooding on the skin of the bones that appear on x-rays like

healing fractures, hypersensitivity--skin sores, lesions on the roof of the

mouth and pharnyx, etc. Scurvy also has another common symptom no matter what

the age...sudden death. Can vaccines cause scurvy? --any kind of viral or

bacterial infection, including those injected by needle

can cause vitamin C deficiency and that's what scurvy is, and in this case,

infection far accelerates the condition than what is found in simple nutritional

deficiency, particularly in formula-fed babies.

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you are right

they don't get written consent to do it

At 01:00 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:

Written consent to *give* the vaccine? That’s new. Usually it’s written

refusal. We never signed consent to give for Christian, they gave and

tried to get us to sign consent after…. Hahahahaah that went over like a

lead balloon.

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6, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac, 2/3/08

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At the hospital I delivered it was the same sheet, you just had to

accept or decline.

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On Apr 1, 2008, at 2:00 PM, Venita Garner wrote:

> Written consent to *give* the vaccine? That’s new. Usually it’s

> written

> refusal. We never signed consent to give for Christian, they gave and

> tried to get us to sign consent after…. Hahahahaah that went over

> like a

> lead balloon.

>

>

>

> Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 14, Jon 13, 10,

> 8,

> 6, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac, 2/3/08

> HYPERLINK " http://momof6.dotphoto.com " http://momof6.dotphoto.com for

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the hospital my daughter was born in Bergen County, NJ we got a two part form.

top portion consented to the Hep B and explained how " there are risks " ...- the

bottom part was to decline the vaccine. we " xed " the top portion and signed the

bottom. even with this in place along with my written birthplan that

specifically stated no vaccines, vit k, eye goop, my husband and i were

extremely on guard - he followed our baby everywhere.

Arianna Mojica

" All rights not demanded are presumed waived. ~ Thurston "

I share our Founders' belief that in a free society each citizen must have the

right to keep and bear arms. Ron

When we give government the power to make medical decisions for us, we, in

essence, accept that the state owns our bodies ~U.S. Representative Ron ,

MD. "

RE: Allowing newborn out of your sight in hospital after

birth

you are right

they don't get written consent to do it

At 01:00 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:

Written consent to *give* the vaccine? That’s new. Usually it’s written

refusal. We never signed consent to give for Christian, they gave and

tried to get us to sign consent after…. Hahahahaah that went over like a

lead balloon.

Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8,

6, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac, 2/3/08

HYPERLINK " http://momof6. dotphoto. com " http://momof6. dotphoto. com for not

necessarily current pictures

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