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Hey can we do a measles party?? Have them chew on some lollipops and

send them to me? I’d love natural measles.. though it’s not really

“natural” since she is vaxxed.

Med’s always have an “out” planned for vaccine failure. It might be the

only way they can sleep at night. That might be harsh but geez, there

are so many lies surrounding vaccination and then to be yelled at when

you don’t….. how very convenient for him to say ‘oh it didn’t take’..

not even a thought to geez, the vaccine might not work and maybe I

should reexamine how the immune system works.. nah. Can’t have that.

If it were me, I’d be over there exposing my kids. Perhaps not the baby

but then again, if it happened by accident, what could I do? Same as if

the olders brought it home to the youngers. I have info on how to treat

it. I wouldn’t be a happy camper from the dumbness of the doc’s comment.

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If your friends in playgroup find out your kid isn't vaxed they they may not

want to play with you anymore for these ignorant peoples view unvaxed kids as

the ones spreading disease.....

Vaccinations@...: bobysandsuss@...: Sun, 6 Apr 2008

00:47:55 +0000Subject: MEASLES!

A friend of mine's toddler has the measles! She was vaxed for it, too. what did

the doc say? Well, her body must not have taken to the immunity and she got

infected by someone who was vaxed in the last 2-3 weeks!If I were her I would

not be a happy camper!Now here's my question for ya'll...should I keep my

unvaxed son away from recently vaxed kids? I mean, as well as I can? Like ask

friends before playgroups if there kids have been stuck lately? and if so, which

vaxs can be communicable?

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I remember worrying about that a lot at first, too. I would assume I'm always

around recently vaccinated people, especially young children. I can't say my

kids have ever come down with anything from being exposed that way. (I don't

think about it too much now. I have new worries with a teenage driver: all

drivers to me are 16-yr-olds with their new permits!!).

It is prudent to keep your children out of playgroups if there seems to be a lot

of illness. If the others seem healthy, then there's probably nothing serious to

catch.

Winnie

MEASLES!

Vaccinations

> A friend of mine's toddler has the measles! She was vaxed for

> it,

> too. what did the doc say? Well, her body must not have taken

> to the

> immunity and she got infected by someone who was vaxed in the

> last 2-3

> weeks!

>

> If I were her I would not be a happy camper!

>

> Now here's my question for ya'll...should I keep my unvaxed son

> away

> from recently vaxed kids? I mean, as well as I can? Like ask

> friends

> before playgroups if there kids have been stuck lately? and if

> so,

> which vaxs can be communicable?

>

>

>

>

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Winnie - this is a concern for me as well. Although, I understand the vaccines

are not going to protect against colds/flu's I am still concerned because I can

not really control who my kids are around and if they got their vaccines

recently. My oldest goes to preschool and whatever he is exposed to and then he

brings home also to my little one.

I completely unerstand what you are saying about trying to keep them away but

most of the colds, ect are contagious even before they show signs..plus, we are

a very active family. We go to the park, pool, zoo, things like that so to me,

it is impossible to know who your kids are around and what illness they have.

For example, my youngest was sick to his stomach for about 24 hrs. I had him at

the store and he decided to put his mouth on the cart. Now, I made him stop

doing it of course but he is 18 months and I did not catch him before he got his

mouth on it...now he is sick. I do not know he got the illness from the

shopping cart but it may be a good bet.

I am not trying to argue with you..I agree with you I am just saying for me,

this is the hardest part because I do not want to have to worry about where we

are going and who is there. Any suggestions, or am I over analyzing this??? I

have a habit of doing that :)

~Beth

MEASLES!

Vaccinations

> A friend of mine's toddler has the measles! She was vaxed for

> it,

> too. what did the doc say? Well, her body must not have taken

> to the

> immunity and she got infected by someone who was vaxed in the

> last 2-3

> weeks!

>

> If I were her I would not be a happy camper!

>

> Now here's my question for ya'll...should I keep my unvaxed son

> away

> from recently vaxed kids? I mean, as well as I can? Like ask

> friends

> before playgroups if there kids have been stuck lately? and if

> so,

> which vaxs can be communicable?

>

>

>

>

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Beth,

You're right, by the time the signs show up the illness can already have been

passed on. But if you see something nasty going around and you're worried, it

might be a good time to skip a few get togethers. On the flip side, I keep my

guys home at the first sign of anything in them so I can nip it in the bud--and

I don't want it spreading through the house (and to me!!). The older ones tend

not to complain as much so they don't stay home too often.

I don't think you're over-analyzing anything, just worrying about something and

not wanting to. I can't help with that. I'm the same way. It keeps me on my

toes.

Winnie

MEASLES!

> Vaccinations

>

> > A friend of mine's toddler has the measles! She was vaxed for

> > it,

> > too. what did the doc say? Well, her body must not have taken

> > to the

> > immunity and she got infected by someone who was vaxed in the

> > last 2-3

> > weeks!

> >

> > If I were her I would not be a happy camper!

> >

> > Now here's my question for ya'll...should I keep my unvaxed

> son

> > away

> > from recently vaxed kids? I mean, as well as I can? Like ask

> > friends

> > before playgroups if there kids have been stuck lately? and if

> > so,

> > which vaxs can be communicable?

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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I had to quit worrying about this a long time ago. Kids get sick from

time-to-time, it's a fact of life. This builds natural immunities and

ultimately makes our children stronger. Yes, it's hard to watch them be

sick at the time, and we are the ones that stay up comforting them through

the illness, but honestly, I'd rather go through a temporary stomach/gut

issue, a cold or even the chicken pox, mumps or measles than to subject my

child to the TRUE horrors called vaccines, that leave permanent damage

behind. I don't limit my kiddo's exposure to anything, except from

daycares, for fear of illness. You can't keep your kids in a bubble! I can

tell you that my child is sick a LOT, LOT, LOT less than most vax'd kids he

hangs around with. My neighbor's vax'd kid who is the same age as mine had

TWELVE ear infections over the winter. Mine had one, and I don't really

think it was an infection, but more of an irritation due to teething.

Yikes Winnie! Now THAT scares me! A teenage driver <gulp>! I'm going to

move to the boonies before mine is old enough to drive. LOL

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& Winnie,

thanks girls, you post help to keep hearing it and feeling better about

everything. I agree 110%, no matter if you vax or not, kids are going to

get sick. You can not let them live in a bubble and we DO NOT. We are always

on the go. However, when I notice my kids are coming down with something, I do

keep them in and make them rest. However, once they are feeling better, we are

right back to our busy lifestyles.....

~Beth

Re: MEASLES!

I had to quit worrying about this a long time ago. Kids get sick from

time-to-time, it's a fact of life. This builds natural immunities and

ultimately makes our children stronger. Yes, it's hard to watch them be

sick at the time, and we are the ones that stay up comforting them through

the illness, but honestly, I'd rather go through a temporary stomach/gut

issue, a cold or even the chicken pox, mumps or measles than to subject my

child to the TRUE horrors called vaccines, that leave permanent damage

behind. I don't limit my kiddo's exposure to anything, except from

daycares, for fear of illness. You can't keep your kids in a bubble! I can

tell you that my child is sick a LOT, LOT, LOT less than most vax'd kids he

hangs around with. My neighbor's vax'd kid who is the same age as mine had

TWELVE ear infections over the winter. Mine had one, and I don't really

think it was an infection, but more of an irritation due to teething.

Yikes Winnie! Now THAT scares me! A teenage driver <gulp>! I'm going to

move to the boonies before mine is old enough to drive. LOL

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Keeping them in when they are coming down with something is being a

responsible parent. :) You're not only protecting your child from getting

worse by overdoing it, you're protecting other people's children/adults from

being exposed unnecessarily. This is one area where I wish more people

would take consideration... for instance, my boss used to get mad when

people would call in sick because they had a cold or the flu.. but I was

always GLAD they called in because they weren't exposing me to it!

On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Beth Jacomet <tommygirl18_1981@...>

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> & Winnie,

>

> thanks girls, you post help to keep hearing it and feeling better about

everything. I agree 110%, no matter if you vax or not, kids are going

to get sick. You can not let them live in a bubble and we DO NOT. We are

always on the go. However, when I notice my kids are coming down with

something, I do keep them in and make them rest. However, once they are

feeling better, we are right back to our busy lifestyles.....

>

> ~Beth

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It's very scary to have a driving child (he calls himself a " man of the road " ).

Poor Mr. Man had to wait a year to get his license because of his neurotic

mother!

You're right--I see vaccinated kids getting more illnesses and for longer.

However, my youngest was never vaccinated but was given a lot of antibiotics

during his first year--not sure why I allowed that when I knew better. Anyway,

he tends to have respiratory illnesses that are worrisome. So, I think it's also

the medical treatments the vaccinated kids get. I'm sure a lot of parents who

vaccinate also believe in the drugs they're prescribed by the peds. and the

illnesses linger.

Winnie

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Vaccinations

> I had to quit worrying about this a long time ago. Kids get

> sick from

> time-to-time, it's a fact of life. This builds natural

> immunities and

> ultimately makes our children stronger. Yes, it's hard to watch

> them be

> sick at the time, and we are the ones that stay up comforting

> them through

> the illness, but honestly, I'd rather go through a temporary

> stomach/gutissue, a cold or even the chicken pox, mumps or

> measles than to subject my

> child to the TRUE horrors called vaccines, that leave permanent damage

> behind. I don't limit my kiddo's exposure to anything, except from

> daycares, for fear of illness. You can't keep your kids in a

> bubble! I can

> tell you that my child is sick a LOT, LOT, LOT less than most

> vax'd kids he

> hangs around with. My neighbor's vax'd kid who is the same age

> as mine had

> TWELVE ear infections over the winter. Mine had one, and I

> don't really

> think it was an infection, but more of an irritation due to teething.

>

> Yikes Winnie! Now THAT scares me! A teenage driver !

> I'm going to

> move to the boonies before mine is old enough to drive. LOL

>

>

>

>

>

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I may be odd, but I don’t worry about them chewing on everything they

can.. shopping carts, dirt… once was found eating dirt, I just

loosened up a whole lot. Kids are kids. Germs build immunity. Yes, when

my kid has a green nose, I’ll keep him home but sometimes I’m also like

‘It’s a nasty nose” I keep it wiped and we do a quick errand if we

really have to. Generally, we don’t do a lot.. so busy in the house

doing our school work and social ops’ aren’t what they used to be b/c

the eat up so much time.. anyway, that is another tangent.

I do get aggravated when people share their germs too much but then

OTOH, it does help one build a stronger immune system. I don’t believe

that wiping off every surface and always washing hands and feet and

faces is really helping that much. Good hand washing when you have a

cold is probably a good idea… I don’t think that we do that much around

here. I started having the kids cough and sneeze into their elbows.

What annoys me is the kid w/ the snotty nose that desperately needs to

be wiped and the parents just ignore it and the kid comes around my

kids.. ewww. Gross. Stay home next time kid!

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I do agree with that to an extent, but I would still get annoyed when

someone would come to work sick and pass it around. As someone with a

compromised immune system (vaccine injury), every time I'm exposed to

something, it goes straight to my lungs and I have violent wheezing/asthma

episodes until I get over the germ. My kid is much more healthy than me

because he isn't vaccine injured, so I'm not as worried about him catching

something. He tends to get over things at a rabbit's pace, while I am

slower than a snail -- though it's much better since introducing homeopathy

and regular chiropractic care into my life. However, running an errand

with a kid who has a runny nose is far different than sending your sick

child to daycare all day. Sending a sick kid into a daycare

environment makes your kid sicker longer and exposes everyone else's

kid (some that are also vaccine injured) to the illness. I understand some

people feel they have no choice, as they have to work, but it does create

the never ending cycle of germ-passing that daycares are so notorious for.

So, I just elect to avoid the daycare scene during the flu/RSV season.

Cough into their elbows! That made me laugh! Hahahahahaha! I'm going to

have to remember that one... although my kiddo is really *in* to washing his

hands. He loves to have " bubbles " on his hands. It's almost annoying, but

he IS two. When he gets really relentless, I stick him in a bubble bath

instead. LOL

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>

> I do get aggravated when people share their germs too much but then

> OTOH, it does help one build a stronger immune system. I don't believe

> that wiping off every surface and always washing hands and feet and

> faces is really helping that much. Good hand washing when you have a

> cold is probably a good idea… I don't think that we do that much around

> here. I started having the kids cough and sneeze into their elbows.

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That happens too with dh's work. He got a cold or something from an

idiot coworker who had been told to stay home for 3 days but came after

2 " because I'm not contagious anymore, I'm medicated " ..... and dh paid

the price for his stupidity and ignorance.

I stay home with the kids, I never wanted them in daycare so for us, at

least, it's not an issue. I've helped work a daycare though as a teen..

they'll send anything and everything. Even to public school. Even with a

fever. Kate's teacher had some stories for us. 'so what he's got a

fever? He's your responsibility now, I'm at work "

That is why I avoid walmart. It seems to be the melting pot of germs

around here.

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That will be really hard to do................

Only the live vaccines are supposed to be possibly communicable -

MMR, Varicella and oral polio.

But I don't know how you would be able to avoid all and it is rare

that we hear of children getting these diseases from others just vaccinated.

Sheri

At 07:47 PM 4/5/2008, you wrote:

>A friend of mine's toddler has the measles! She was vaxed for it,

>too. what did the doc say? Well, her body must not have taken to the

>immunity and she got infected by someone who was vaxed in the last 2-3

>weeks!

>

>If I were her I would not be a happy camper!

>

>Now here's my question for ya'll...should I keep my unvaxed son away

>from recently vaxed kids? I mean, as well as I can? Like ask friends

>before playgroups if there kids have been stuck lately? and if so,

>which vaxs can be communicable?

>

>

>

>

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Well, this is new territory..............this is measles " FROM THE VACCINE " .

Do you want that?

I don't know what to tell people

anymore.............maybe it would act the same

in the body and give the immunity you all want.

But I don't know.

Sheri

At 08:28 PM 4/5/2008, you wrote:

>Hey can we do a measles party?? Have them chew on some lollipops and

>send them to me? I’d love natural measles.. though it’s not really

>“natural” since she is vaxxed.

>

>

>

>Med’s always have an “out” planned for vaccine failure. It might be the

>only way they can sleep at night. That might be harsh but geez, there

>are so many lies surrounding vaccination and then to be yelled at when

>you don’t….. how very convenient for him to say ‘oh it didn’t take’..

>not even a thought to geez, the vaccine might not work and maybe I

>should reexamine how the immune system works.. nah. Can’t have that.

>

>

>

>If it were me, I’d be over there exposing my kids. Perhaps not the baby

>but then again, if it happened by accident, what could I do? Same as if

>the olders brought it home to the youngers. I have info on how to treat

>it. I wouldn’t be a happy camper from the dumbness of the doc’s comment.

>

>

>

>Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 15, Jon 13, 11, 9,

> 6, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac, 2/3/08

>HYPERLINK " http://momof6.dotphoto.com " http://momof6.dotphoto.com for not

>necessarily current pictures

>Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

>enough to make them all yourself.

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You all cannot worry about this as there is no way to control this

and I very very rarely have heard of any such thing

We hear of the MMR and Varicella vax giving the children that got

them Measles, Chickenpox, etc. But just don't hear of many others

getting the disease from the vaxed, unless exposed to those who got

the disease from their vax and then exposed others.

Sheri

At 09:58 PM 4/5/2008, you wrote:

>Winnie - this is a concern for me as well. Although, I understand

>the vaccines are not going to protect against colds/flu's I am still

>concerned because I can not really control who my kids are around

>and if they got their vaccines recently. My oldest goes to

>preschool and whatever he is exposed to and then he brings home also

>to my little one.

>

>I completely unerstand what you are saying about trying to keep them

>away but most of the colds, ect are contagious even before they show

>signs..plus, we are a very active family. We go to the park, pool,

>zoo, things like that so to me, it is impossible to know who your

>kids are around and what illness they have. For example, my

>youngest was sick to his stomach for about 24 hrs. I had him at the

>store and he decided to put his mouth on the cart. Now, I made him

>stop doing it of course but he is 18 months and I did not catch him

>before he got his mouth on it...now he is sick. I do not know he

>got the illness from the shopping cart but it may be a good bet.

>

>I am not trying to argue with you..I agree with you I am just saying

>for me, this is the hardest part because I do not want to have to

>worry about where we are going and who is there. Any suggestions,

>or am I over analyzing this??? I have a habit of doing that :)

>

>~Beth

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Sheri,

I'm confused--are you saying that this instance of measles is caused by the

vaccine and not the same " wild " measles?

mabel

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

Well, this is new territory..............this is measles " FROM THE

VACCINE " .

Do you want that?

I don't know what to tell people

anymore.............maybe it would act the same

in the body and give the immunity you all want.

But I don't know.

Sheri

At 08:28 PM 4/5/2008, you wrote:

>Hey can we do a measles party?? Have them chew on some lollipops and

>send them to me? I’d love natural measles.. though it’s not really

>“natural” since she is vaxxed.

>

>

>

>Med’s always have an “out” planned for vaccine failure. It might be the

>only way they can sleep at night. That might be harsh but geez, there

>are so many lies surrounding vaccination and then to be yelled at when

>you don’t….. how very convenient for him to say ‘oh it didn’t take’..

>not even a thought to geez, the vaccine might not work and maybe I

>should reexamine how the immune system works.. nah. Can’t have that.

>

>

>

>If it were me, I’d be over there exposing my kids. Perhaps not the baby

>but then again, if it happened by accident, what could I do? Same as if

>the olders brought it home to the youngers. I have info on how to treat

>it. I wouldn’t be a happy camper from the dumbness of the doc’s comment.

>

>

>

>Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 15, Jon 13, 11, 9,

> 6, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac, 2/3/08

>HYPERLINK " http://momof6.dotphoto.com " http://momof6.dotphoto.com for not

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>Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

>enough to make them all yourself.

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I'd say this has to rank as the top of MY top 10 FAQs!! A good place

to start with that FAQ list :o)

When you first make the tentative decision to question the vaxs, you

usually progress from postponing them while you research further, to

avoiding some, then running from all of them like the plague!!

The very next emotion is a sense of exposure, because you have

abandoned a so-called liferaft & set yourself adrift in an enormous

sea of unknowables. The false reassurance of protection touted by the

Vax-pushers is a hard thing to give up. Avoiding Vax may the best

choice to make in the real world, but we are only human & we still

clamour for rock-solid reassurance... Since I decided to go this

route I have done little else but worry about my daughter's exposure

to others & whether I am really being a good parent, the doubts are

there due to social conditioning. We are going against the main

stream & it is hard to do taht, you need support.

I know the short & long answer: read, read & read!

To be a parent is to worry. But besides reading, it is helping me

alot to read posts from other mothers who have lived many years with

unvaxed kids with only benficial results. I am daring to begin to see

the world not as fraught with evil diseases at every turn, but as a

potentially friendly place, if you learn how to live in harmoiny with

it.

What better can you do for your children than to love them to bits &

feed them as healthy a diet as you can. I think you just have to get

stronger & stronger in that conviction, however you arrive at it.

Candida

>

> Beth,

>

> You're right, by the time the signs show up the illness can already

have been passed on. But if you see something nasty going around and

you're worried, it might be a good time to skip a few get togethers.

On the flip side, I keep my guys home at the first sign of anything

in them so I can nip it in the bud--and I don't want it spreading

through the house (and to me!!). The older ones tend not to complain

as much so they don't stay home too often.

>

> I don't think you're over-analyzing anything, just worrying about

something and not wanting to. I can't help with that. I'm the same

way. It keeps me on my toes.

>

> Winnie

>

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I see what you’re saying but it’s *gotta* be better than the vaccine and

if it d/n work, I don’t think I’ve lost anything b/c only the germ will

transfer over from the person vaxxed, not all the preservatives and

additives and crap that were also in the vaccine.

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6, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac, 2/3/08

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Sheri,

I'm confused--are you saying that this instance of measles is caused by

the vaccine and not the same " wild " measles? Yep, that’s what’s she

saying.

The concern is it won’t transfer true immunity b/c it’s not “true”

measles…. However, it’s all we have to work with

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She said the child got infected by someone who was vaxed in the last 2 or

3 weeks

Sheri

> Sheri,

>

> I'm confused--are you saying that this instance of measles is caused by

> the vaccine and not the same " wild " measles?

>

> mabel

>

> Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

> Well, this is new territory..............this is measles " FROM

> THE VACCINE " .

> Do you want that?

> I don't know what to tell people

> anymore.............maybe it would act the same

> in the body and give the immunity you all want.

> But I don't know.

>

> Sheri

> At 08:28 PM 4/5/2008, you wrote:

>>Hey can we do a measles party?? Have them chew on some lollipops and

>>send them to me? I’d love natural measles.. though it’s not really

>>“natural” since she is vaxxed.

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>>Med’s always have an “out” planned for vaccine failure. It might be the

>>only way they can sleep at night. That might be harsh but geez, there

>>are so many lies surrounding vaccination and then to be yelled at when

>>you don’t….. how very convenient for him to say ‘oh it didn’t take’..

>>not even a thought to geez, the vaccine might not work and maybe I

>>should reexamine how the immune system works.. nah. Can’t have that.

>>

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>>If it were me, I’d be over there exposing my kids. Perhaps not the baby

>>but then again, if it happened by accident, what could I do? Same as if

>>the olders brought it home to the youngers. I have info on how to treat

>>it. I wouldn’t be a happy camper from the dumbness of the doc’s comment.

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Hi Mabel, if the infection came from a recently vaxed child, then it is likely

to be the vaccination strain of measles and not the wild strain. This may be ok

to contract, but we have no way of knowing if it will present itself the same as

the wild strain or not. It is essentially a modified illness. In this case it

is most likely that the vaccine has shed the virus to the other child.

Fieldman

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She said the child got infected by someone who was vaxed in the last 2 or

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> Sheri,

>

> I'm confused--are you saying that this instance of measles is caused by

> the vaccine and not the same " wild " measles?

>

> mabel

>

>

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Which is yet another reason to question how effective the vaccine really

is... it the virus in the vaccine is mutated from the wild strain, then

there's 0% effectiveness (just like the flu shot is a gamble every year),

rather than whatever the CDC claims.

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Fieldman <lisafieldman@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Mabel, if the infection came from a recently vaxed child, then it is

likely to be the vaccination strain of measles and not the wild strain. This

may be ok to contract, but we have no way of knowing if it will present

itself the same as the wild strain or not. It is essentially a modified

illness. In this case it is most likely that the vaccine has shed the virus

to the other child.

>

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JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND... is the unvxd child more at risk for complications

if the measles infection is from a vxd child vs. acquiring it the natural way.

i mean... how would one ever know the source... unless you keep your kids

sheltered from others .??? we dont go around asking friends or relatives if

their kids have been recently vaxd so how would one know and what difference

would it make?

Arianna Mojica

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> the vaccine and not the same " wild " measles?

>

> mabel

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The answer is not really clear Arianna. It may be the same risk as the wild

strain. But at the end of the day, there is no way to really know. I think we

all have to stop worrying about what our children may or may not catch, and

focus more on general health and fitness. This way, our immune systems become

stronger, and no matter what we catch, we have a much easier time. We can't

avoid being exposed, but it would be preferable to contract the natural wild

strain than the un natural vaccine strain.

If I knew a child had the wild strain, then I would most likely try and get my

child exposed. But if I had doubts about it being wild or vaccine strain, then

I would give it a miss. Just to be on the safe side.

At the end of the day, it is just something you can't be sure of. But that

doesn't mean we have to go around with the fear our children will catch it. It

certainly isn't as dangerous as catching measles directly from the vaccine. Or

just getting the vaccine for that matter.

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> the vaccine and not the same " wild " measles?

>

> mabel

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thanks . i agree with you completely, we can't live in a bubble....

I wasnt asking out of fear... I am way past that :-) i was just trying to

understand the difference so that i can better defend my position.

thanks

Arianna Mojica

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MD. "

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Sheri

> Sheri,

>

> I'm confused--are you saying that this instance of measles is caused by

> the vaccine and not the same " wild " measles?

>

> mabel

>

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Arianna-I'm with you on this one, I am so confused.I got lost in this shuffle.

Arianna Mojica <ariannalaw68@...> wrote: JUST SO THAT I

UNDERSTAND... is the unvxd child more at risk for complications if the measles

infection is from a vxd child vs. acquiring it the natural way. i mean... how

would one ever know the source... unless you keep your kids sheltered from

others .??? we dont go around asking friends or relatives if their kids have

been recently vaxd so how would one know and what difference would it make?

Arianna Mojica

All rights not demanded are presumed waived. ~ Thurston "

I share our Founders' belief that in a free society each citizen must have the

right to keep and bear arms. Ron

When we give government the power to make medical decisions for us, we, in

essence, accept that the state owns our bodies ~U.S. Representative Ron ,

MD. "

RE: MEASLES!

She said the child got infected by someone who was vaxed in the last 2 or

3 weeks

Sheri

> Sheri,

>

> I'm confused--are you saying that this instance of measles is caused by

> the vaccine and not the same " wild " measles?

>

> mabel

>

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