All U.S. kids should get flu vaccine, panel says

[Guest guest]

Just excellent. We all had the flu this year but came out

fine...wonder how many kids will react or get the flu from the vaccine...

http://tinyurl.com/2zsqwt

[Guest guest]

The arrogance of the ACIP is astounding! The flu vaccine this year

sucked! It was a poor match. They can't possibly have the well being

of children in mind when making this recommendation.

Vance

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[Guest guest]

Sometimes

I feel like a total freak but this is just outrageous to me. Do scientists and

medical workers ever stop and look at real life??? We are born with wonderful,

amazing bodies that are designed to grow and thrive

and adapt to the conditions we live in. Where did “they” ever get

the idea that humans should never get sick? That illness is an abnormal event

that should be avoided at all costs?

Vaccines are based

upon the natural immunity that our bodies develop when we get sick. Doesn’t

it seem the height of arrogance to think that they can improve

on this? And that the pesky “details” of

doing this (ie: mercury, formaldehyde and other poisons as preservatives) are

without consequence? If you combine this with the drugs pushed on our children

to control normal behaviors, it’s enough to make me scream.

Who decided that it should be normal for children to sit for hours indoors in a classroom

and “stay on task”? Have they ever spent any

time with normal children? What about the thousands of defenseless children in

our foster care system who are drugged out of their minds to treat their

depression and acting out behaviors? It seems to me that the only normal response to being in foster care would be

depression and acting out.

I’m sick to death of being treated

like “one of those parents”

by protecting my children from the dangers of medicine and drug companies. Now

they want to push parents to get every child injected with yet another

vaccine that is a crap-shoot at best!! And my kids

will continue to be viewed as walking contagions – a problem that seems

to be getting worse and worse. Sorry for the rant but some days I just lose it

when I read this stuff.

All U.S. kids

should get flu vaccine, panel says

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSWAT00897520080227

[Guest guest]

I fear the major implication of this current recommendation is that

states will require flu vaccination annually for children to enroll

in school. Up until now, the flu vaccine recommendation didn't

really impact school age kids, just covering 6 months to 5 years, so

it was not enforced by states for school access. We will all have

to work against well-funded lobbyists at the state level to prevent

this.

Vance

>

> Sometimes I feel like a total freak but this is just outrageous to

me.

> Do scientists and medical workers ever stop and look at real

life??? We

> are born with wonderful, amazing bodies that are designed to grow

and

> thrive and adapt to the conditions we live in. Where did " they "

ever get

> the idea that humans should never get sick? That illness is an

abnormal

> event that should be avoided at all costs?

>

> Vaccines are based upon the natural immunity that our bodies

develop

> when we get sick. Doesn't it seem the height of arrogance to think

that

> they can improve on this? And that the pesky " details " of doing

this

> (ie: mercury, formaldehyde and other poisons as preservatives) are

> without consequence? If you combine this with the drugs pushed on

our

> children to control normal behaviors, it's enough to make me

scream.

>

> Who decided that it should be normal for children to sit for hours

> indoors in a classroom and " stay on task " ? Have they ever spent

any time

> with normal children? What about the thousands of defenseless

children

> in our foster care system who are drugged out of their minds to

treat

> their depression and acting out behaviors? It seems to me that the

only

> normal response to being in foster care would be depression and

acting

> out.

>

> I'm sick to death of being treated like " one of those parents " by

> protecting my children from the dangers of medicine and drug

companies.

> Now they want to push parents to get every child injected with yet

> another vaccine that is a crap-shoot at best!! And my kids will

continue

> to be viewed as walking contagions - a problem that seems to be

getting

> worse and worse. Sorry for the rant but some days I just lose it

when I

> read this stuff.

>

> All U.S. kids should get flu vaccine, panel says

>

> http://www.reuters.

> <http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSWAT00897520080227>

> com/article/domesticNews/idUSWAT00897520080227

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[Guest guest]

Sacrifice the few for the good of the many...

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> > http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSWAT00897520080227

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[Guest guest]

Has anyone thought about how this latest mega-addition to the

schedule might backfire? There is a lot of mistrust of the flu

vaccine among " regular people. " They say things like, I got the flu

shot 5 years ago, and it gave me the flu. Or, it made me sick, I'll

never get another one. Not sure why so many express their distrust,

but perhaps when healthy adults take what they understand to be a

probably unnecessary shot, they are attuned to side effects. Or

maybe they are just responding to the undue pressure placed on them

by medical personnel...

I knew ACIP would expand their " recommendations " to all children

eventually. It is only a matter of time before the underprofiteered

18-65 year crowd gets included. That will be much harder to enforce,

so then large, and then small, businesses will be made to be the

enforcers for their employees. We already see this going on at

hospitals.

It's going to be interesting to see how states and schools respond to

this. The influenza vaccine was always considered a little different

from the other mandated vaccines. If schools end up considering it

required for school attendance, it will be a huge paperwork burden

that they are already not likely to handle well. I refer to the

recent Prince Co., land, fiasco, in which many (most?) of

those parents were threatened with jail even when their kids had been

vaccinated, but the schools lost track of the paperwork.

What if there is " massive resistance " to the flu shot for all

children? Will unvaccinated children be banned from school at the

first documented case at that school? Will that mean 30%, 50% of

students or more will be kept out of school for weeks? Maybe there

will be special quarantine classrooms for the unclean?

Perhaps now, regular " people on the street " will make the connection

between mega-mandates and mega-profits with this new recommendation.

Or maybe, at last, some pediatricians will see this for the crass

profiteering tactic that it is. As DH said this morning, ACIP has

" just given itself enough rope. "

[Guest guest]

I heard from lots of people who did read or hear on tv that this year's flu shot was way off and if they got the shot they were disappointed and if not, they were sooo glad they didn't. I'm happy that information got to so many people. M <jw4994@...> wrote: Has anyone thought about how this latest mega-addition to the schedule might backfire? There is a lot of mistrust of the flu vaccine among "regular people." They say things like, I got the flu shot 5 years ago, and it gave me the flu. Or, it

made me sick, I'll never get another one. Not sure why so many express their distrust, but perhaps when healthy adults take what they understand to be a probably unnecessary shot, they are attuned to side effects. Or maybe they are just responding to the undue pressure placed on them by medical personnel...I knew ACIP would expand their "recommendations" to all children eventually. It is only a matter of time before the underprofiteered 18-65 year crowd gets included. That will be much harder to enforce, so then large, and then small, businesses will be made to be the enforcers for their employees. We already see this going on at hospitals.It's going to be interesting to see how states and schools respond to this. The influenza vaccine was always considered a little different from the other mandated vaccines. If schools end up considering it required for school attendance, it will be a huge paperwork

burden that they are already not likely to handle well. I refer to the recent Prince Co., land, fiasco, in which many (most?) of those parents were threatened with jail even when their kids had been vaccinated, but the schools lost track of the paperwork.What if there is "massive resistance" to the flu shot for all children? Will unvaccinated children be banned from school at the first documented case at that school? Will that mean 30%, 50% of students or more will be kept out of school for weeks? Maybe there will be special quarantine classrooms for the unclean?Perhaps now, regular "people on the street" will make the connection between mega-mandates and mega-profits with this new recommendation. Or maybe, at last, some pediatricians will see this for the crass profiteering tactic that it is. As DH said this morning, ACIP has "just given itself enough

rope."

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[Guest guest]

,

You're right on the money. ACIP has been talking about recommending

vaccines for healthy adults for a long time already. At an ACIP

meeting over a year ago, they were discussing it and clearly stated

that it was not because it was deemed medically beneficial, but

because if everyone was already getting vaccinated annually, it

would make it easier to get to everyone in the case of a pandemic.

So annual bolus doses of mercury for all...just in case we have a

pandemic someday. And let's not forget the huge income boost for

vaccine manufacturers, of course. We have to be sure to keep them

happy.

>

> Has anyone thought about how this latest mega-addition to the

> schedule might backfire? There is a lot of mistrust of the flu

> vaccine among " regular people. " They say things like, I got the

flu

> shot 5 years ago, and it gave me the flu. Or, it made me sick,

I'll

> never get another one. Not sure why so many express their

distrust,

> but perhaps when healthy adults take what they understand to be a

> probably unnecessary shot, they are attuned to side effects. Or

> maybe they are just responding to the undue pressure placed on

them

> by medical personnel...

>

> I knew ACIP would expand their " recommendations " to all children

> eventually. It is only a matter of time before the

underprofiteered

> 18-65 year crowd gets included. That will be much harder to

enforce,

> so then large, and then small, businesses will be made to be the

> enforcers for their employees. We already see this going on at

> hospitals.

>

> It's going to be interesting to see how states and schools respond

to

> this. The influenza vaccine was always considered a little

different

> from the other mandated vaccines. If schools end up considering

it

> required for school attendance, it will be a huge paperwork

burden

> that they are already not likely to handle well. I refer to the

> recent Prince Co., land, fiasco, in which many (most?)

of

> those parents were threatened with jail even when their kids had

been

> vaccinated, but the schools lost track of the paperwork.

>

> What if there is " massive resistance " to the flu shot for all

> children? Will unvaccinated children be banned from school at

the

> first documented case at that school? Will that mean 30%, 50% of

> students or more will be kept out of school for weeks? Maybe

there

> will be special quarantine classrooms for the unclean?

>

> Perhaps now, regular " people on the street " will make the

connection

> between mega-mandates and mega-profits with this new

recommendation.

> Or maybe, at last, some pediatricians will see this for the crass

> profiteering tactic that it is. As DH said this morning, ACIP

has

> " just given itself enough rope. "

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can imagine a pro-vaccine brochure entitled

" So you think you're healthy.... NOW what? "

Or

" Vaccines: The healthy adult's guide to not dying a horrible, unnecessary death "

Or

" Herd Immunity: How you might doom your neighbors and not even know it! "

Basically, any title with implied guilt... :-)

>

> ,

> You're right on the money. ACIP has been talking about recommending

> vaccines for healthy adults for a long time already. At an ACIP

> meeting over a year ago, they were discussing it and clearly stated

> that it was not because it was deemed medically beneficial, but

> because if everyone was already getting vaccinated annually, it

> would make it easier to get to everyone in the case of a pandemic.

> So annual bolus doses of mercury for all...just in case we have a

> pandemic someday. And let's not forget the huge income boost for

> vaccine manufacturers, of course. We have to be sure to keep them

> happy.

>

>