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My goodness Nita, you really do have your hands full.

I hope you get all the answers and resources you need, and squeek away if it

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Google for " autism treatment " on . It's a huge list of thousands and talk

about everything from chelation to homeopathy. Children are

recovering.......

got an official DX

> Well, I just thought I'd let everyone know that yes, is indeed

> autistic.

>

> He agreed with me it is not aspergers nor is it PDD-NOS, nor is it CDD

> nor is it Rett's syndrome.

>

> He said it was an easy Dx to do so it's pretty obvious. He sees signs of

> good problem solving and intelligence and that is good too.

>

> Daddy has been home now since Wednesday and suddenly says " hey

> look. My dad " ...so he's been gravitating to Papa... it's so heartwarming

> to see. Too bad he's gotta go back to work after Christmas! Usually

> papa isn't in 's world except for little breaks, here and there.

>

> So now we have some books that have been recommended and this guy has a

> training class to teach parents how to do ABA and he said we should find

> a mentor for it too if we can.. the early intervention people through

> the state are so far totally pissing me off. They say on their website

> how they want the very best for people in AL.. yeah right. That's why

> it's been nearly 4 weeks since I've heard from them, no special

> instructor has come yet and they're not willing to do ABA. They think

> PECS is going to be good.....he treats books and pictures like an

> object.. he either drops them or eats them but b/c it's easy to

> implement, it must be a good fit for everyone.

>

> I need to be a squeaky wheel and we have lots of reading to do and find

> some resources. At least I have not vaccinated him ever! Food colorings

> I haven't been as vigilant on but I know I limit cleaning chemicals so

> it's not that either.. in the end, the cause isn't really that important

> b/c it doesn't change the end picture but I am glad to not have that

> question hanging over me.

>

> And my diabetes is doing well. I'm keeping to a strict diet (for the

> most part except for the occasional eat too many fries while eating out)

> and my numbers are still good and no insulin yet!

>

> Nita, busy mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6,

> Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due 2/08

> I'm like a snapdragon: half of me has snapped and the other is draggin'

>

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Glad to hear it Nita. Will be keeping fingers crossed for you, that your

numbers stay good. And thanks for the update on your son. I congratulate

you on all the research you have done in the meantime to make sure you deal

with it in the best possible way. is lucky to have such a determined

mother.

Fieldman

>

> And my diabetes is doing well. I'm keeping to a strict diet (for the

> most part except for the occasional eat too many fries while eating out)

> and my numbers are still good and no insulin yet!

>

> Nita, busy mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6,

> Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due 2/08

> I'm like a snapdragon: half of me has snapped and the other is draggin'

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Cause you have not vaccinated your son does that change your view on

vaccination,cause your son now has autism?

Venita Garner <nitagarner@...> wrote: Well, I just thought I'd let

everyone know that yes, is indeed

autistic.

He agreed with me it is not aspergers nor is it PDD-NOS, nor is it CDD

nor is it Rett's syndrome.

He said it was an easy Dx to do so it's pretty obvious. He sees signs of

good problem solving and intelligence and that is good too.

Daddy has been home now since Wednesday and suddenly says " hey

look. My dad " ...so he's been gravitating to Papa... it's so heartwarming

to see. Too bad he's gotta go back to work after Christmas! Usually

papa isn't in 's world except for little breaks, here and there.

So now we have some books that have been recommended and this guy has a

training class to teach parents how to do ABA and he said we should find

a mentor for it too if we can.. the early intervention people through

the state are so far totally pissing me off. They say on their website

how they want the very best for people in AL.. yeah right. That's why

it's been nearly 4 weeks since I've heard from them, no special

instructor has come yet and they're not willing to do ABA. They think

PECS is going to be good.....he treats books and pictures like an

object.. he either drops them or eats them but b/c it's easy to

implement, it must be a good fit for everyone.

I need to be a squeaky wheel and we have lots of reading to do and find

some resources. At least I have not vaccinated him ever! Food colorings

I haven't been as vigilant on but I know I limit cleaning chemicals so

it's not that either.. in the end, the cause isn't really that important

b/c it doesn't change the end picture but I am glad to not have that

question hanging over me.

And my diabetes is doing well. I'm keeping to a strict diet (for the

most part except for the occasional eat too many fries while eating out)

and my numbers are still good and no insulin yet!

Nita, busy mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6,

Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due 2/08

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Nope. I still don’t trust vaccines at all and I haven’t done any

vaccines at all for the last 6 years. I don’t know what his trigger was

for it but ASD does run in the family, from dh’s side.

Now though I’m more committed to not getting sucked into a useless vita

K shot either for the new baby.. I know it seems silly sometimes that

everyone else had one and seems OK but yk, that aluminum.. I don’t care.

It’s not their kid and they don’t have to live w/ any possible

consequences on a day to day basis of their “well it’s the law” or

anything else they might try to pull

Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6, Christian

(7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due Feb. 08

Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

enough to make them all yourself.

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In a message dated 12/24/2007 10:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

roni.bergerson@... writes:

It needs an environmental trigger - vaccines are just one of those triggers,

but there are many others.

what are some other possible triggers to autism?

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A friend of mine who is an MD refused the vit. K shot for his baby as

well....he is very familiar with the dangers of the shot as well as

aluminum.

Check your son for high strep antibodies and/or yeast. I know a mom

who did not vaccinate her kids, they had autism and tests showed

mercury toxicity. He's only 2, he can recover; I know several

parents whose children have recovered or nearly recovered.

Homeopathy has helped many of the 'tough nuts' as well. I didn't

start treating my son biomedically until he was 11 and he is nearly

recovered at 13 but it's best to do it when they're young.

Good luck,

>

> Nope. I still don't trust vaccines at all and I haven't done any

> vaccines at all for the last 6 years. I don't know what his trigger

was

> for it but ASD does run in the family, from dh's side.

>

> Now though I'm more committed to not getting sucked into a useless

vita

> K shot either for the new baby.. I know it seems silly sometimes

that

> everyone else had one and seems OK but yk, that aluminum.. I don't

care.

> It's not their kid and they don't have to live w/ any possible

> consequences on a day to day basis of their " well it's the law " or

> anything else they might try to pull

>

>

>

> Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6,

Christian

> (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due Feb. 08

> Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

> enough to make them all yourself.

>

>

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((((Venita)))))

No words of wisdom here - just a good 'ol fashioned hug :-) Take care

and a deep breath!!!

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I started treating my son with biomedical interventions at age 3 and he was

recovered by age 5 (the age when he lost his diagnosis). He had yeast

problems big time as well as severe free radical damage - to name a few

of his metabolic issues. We ran tests on him to pinpoint his metabolic

issues and treated those directly. My doctor helps kids by phone consult.

Email me off list if you'd like his information. He is amazing! He's a

chiorpractor/nutritionist with knowledge in a lot of other areas. Recovery

is possible! My son now is a bright, normal 7 year old boy.

My younger son was full of mercury and aluminum and he wasn't vaccinated at

all. Fortunately, he didn't become autistic because of it, but he did have

some significant speech delays. Autism isn't 100% connected to vaccines.

It needs an environmental trigger - vaccines are just one of those triggers,

but there are many others. Most autism these days is a toxcity of some sort

rather than the disease it was 30-40 years ago. Most of our autistic kids

are poisoned and experiencing difficulties that go along with that.

Good luck!

Roni

On Dec 24, 2007 7:58 AM, <naa-chicago@...> wrote:

> A friend of mine who is an MD refused the vit. K shot for his baby as

> well....he is very familiar with the dangers of the shot as well as

> aluminum.

>

> Check your son for high strep antibodies and/or yeast. I know a mom

> who did not vaccinate her kids, they had autism and tests showed

> mercury toxicity. He's only 2, he can recover; I know several

> parents whose children have recovered or nearly recovered.

> Homeopathy has helped many of the 'tough nuts' as well. I didn't

> start treating my son biomedically until he was 11 and he is nearly

> recovered at 13 but it's best to do it when they're young.

>

> Good luck,

>

>

>

> >

> > Nope. I still don't trust vaccines at all and I haven't done any

> > vaccines at all for the last 6 years. I don't know what his trigger

> was

> > for it but ASD does run in the family, from dh's side.

> >

> > Now though I'm more committed to not getting sucked into a useless

> vita

> > K shot either for the new baby.. I know it seems silly sometimes

> that

> > everyone else had one and seems OK but yk, that aluminum.. I don't

> care.

> > It's not their kid and they don't have to live w/ any possible

> > consequences on a day to day basis of their " well it's the law " or

> > anything else they might try to pull

> >

> >

> >

> > Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6,

> Christian

> > (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due Feb. 08

> > Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

> > enough to make them all yourself.

> >

> >

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Pollution of any kind - water, air, pesticides, herbicides, drugs, overuse

of antibiotics (kills good bacteria in body and allows yeast to grow and run

rampant). If Mom has a lot of amalgam fillings, there is mercury

circulating in her system (since they excrete mercury from the time they're

put in) and it will cross the placenta to her baby. Kids can get a fair

amount of mercury through the air they breathe, the food they eat, water

they drink and the dirt they play in. The earth is full of mercury and much

of it is where it's not supposed to be. There's a ton of possibilities

There is a genetic component, but it's just a suspectibility and requires an

environmental trigger.

My youngest son's (not autistic) heavy metal tox screen showed that he was

high in mercury, aluminum and cadmium even though he was never vaccinated.

I know for a fact the cadmium was from drinking tap water that was not

filtered. Now we only drink RO water and are working on filtering the water

as it comes into the house since the water pollutants seep into the food

that is cooked in that water and through our skin through showers, teeth

brushing, etc.

My doc does a yearly heavy metal detox on himself because we're exposed to

heavy metals all the time - we have no choice in it because our environment,

food, and water are so polluted. So we have to do the best we can.

Roni

On Dec 24, 2007 12:19 PM, <mensrea320@...> wrote:

>

> In a message dated 12/24/2007 10:13:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> roni.bergerson@... <roni.bergerson%40gmail.com> writes:

>

> It needs an environmental trigger - vaccines are just one of those

> triggers,

> but there are many others.

>

> what are some other possible triggers to autism?

>

> Holly

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ARRGGGHHH...there is aluminum in the vitamin K shot that they give?

Are you freaking kidding me?????????? I went overboard to research

this crap and I didn't do the antibiotic eye drops, hep b, and have

delayed vaccines. My daughter is almost 6 months.

>

> Nope. I still don't trust vaccines at all and I haven't done any

> vaccines at all for the last 6 years. I don't know what his

trigger was

> for it but ASD does run in the family, from dh's side.

>

> Now though I'm more committed to not getting sucked into a useless

vita

> K shot either for the new baby.. I know it seems silly sometimes

that

> everyone else had one and seems OK but yk, that aluminum.. I don't

care.

> It's not their kid and they don't have to live w/ any possible

> consequences on a day to day basis of their " well it's the law " or

> anything else they might try to pull

>

>

>

> Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6,

Christian

> (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due Feb. 08

> Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long

> enough to make them all yourself.

>

>

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http://www.whale.to/y/vitk.html

Yes, Vit. K shot is high in aluminum

> >

> > Nope. I still don't trust vaccines at all and I haven't done any

> > vaccines at all for the last 6 years. I don't know what his

> trigger was

> > for it but ASD does run in the family, from dh's side.

> >

> > Now though I'm more committed to not getting sucked into a

useless

> vita

> > K shot either for the new baby.. I know it seems silly sometimes

> that

> > everyone else had one and seems OK but yk, that aluminum.. I

don't

> care.

> > It's not their kid and they don't have to live w/ any possible

> > consequences on a day to day basis of their " well it's the law " or

> > anything else they might try to pull

> >

> >

> >

> > Nita, Mom to: 14, Jon 13, 10, 8, 6,

> Christian

> > (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2 and Isaac due Feb. 08

> > Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live

long

> > enough to make them all yourself.

> >

> >

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that is so weird. My 9 yo was found to be heavy in lead, aliminium, and

cadmium.. We have always had a filter. One of the best thtat even filtered the

fluorine. There were occasons when we didn't have one (such as when we moved)

and dining out or when he was away from home but none of the other children have

the difficulties he has and I haven't had their hair analyzed. We were using an

oral chelator and it did some good. That was over 1 1/2 yrs ago and a retest

using his hair indicated a decline. however, same problems and I had his blood

drawn 9first exposure to needles, poor thing) and it fine. I am not convinced

as I know the hair testing is more precise but that's all military does. Now I

am trying to locate a provider that tests the hair. thd non-military doctor we

are going to uses homeopathy (but no credentials) and so far I haven't noticed a

change in his behaviour. Our chiropractor knows a fellow DC who tests the hair

but hasn't been able to contact him so waiting for that. it'll be over an hour

drive and probably over $200. Well, I guess one can't limit the price of good

health *sigh*

Laurie

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My youngest son's (not autistic) heavy metal tox screen showed that he was

high in mercury, aluminum and cadmium even though he was never vaccinated.

I know for a fact the cadmium was from drinking tap water that was not

filtered.

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We've always used a filter too and had loads of cadmium. Blood is

very unreliable as far as testing goes and will not give you a true

indication of what's actually stored in the body & brain. If you send

me your mailing address (hotmocha @ telus .net minus the spaces of

course) I'll copy you a DVD that you'll find interesting regarding

testing for metals and how it was done in one particular study. It

also covers what we did for our metal detox after about $20000 worth

of various alternative therapies didn't work for us to get the

mercury/cadmium out. Our story is in the archives here too or you can

view it on my website: www.ncdpro.com/detoxqueen. I would suggest

listening to the recording too.

A bit off topic but not too far I think is that people in the

military, policemen, etc that spend a lot of time on shooting ranges

are likely lead toxic. I recently heard of a story where someone's

house was built on a former shooting range and she had about four

miscarriages before figuring it out. She was totally lead toxic.

Sharon

>

> that is so weird. My 9 yo was found to be heavy in lead, aliminium,

and cadmium.. We have always had a filter. One of the best thtat even

filtered the fluorine. There were occasons when we didn't have one

(such as when we moved) and dining out or when he was away from home

but none of the other children have the difficulties he has and I

haven't had their hair analyzed. We were using an oral chelator and

it did some good. That was over 1 1/2 yrs ago and a retest using his

hair indicated a decline. however, same problems and I had his blood

drawn 9first exposure to needles, poor thing) and it fine. I am not

convinced as I know the hair testing is more precise but that's all

military does. Now I am trying to locate a provider that tests the

hair. thd non-military doctor we are going to uses homeopathy (but no

credentials) and so far I haven't noticed a change in his behaviour.

Our chiropractor knows a fellow DC who tests the hair but hasn't been

able to contact him so waiting for that. it'll be over an hour drive

and probably over $200. Well, I guess one can't limit the price of

good health *sigh*

> Laurie

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> My youngest son's (not autistic) heavy metal tox screen showed

that he was

> high in mercury, aluminum and cadmium even though he was never

vaccinated.

> I know for a fact the cadmium was from drinking tap water that was not

> filtered.

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We just joined a year ago so it's not the military housing but it could've been

othr housing as we had bought 2 pre-victorian houses and have no idea if there

was lead. there was original paint that we semi-removed. It could've been in

the ground at any of the places we lived also. Could've been the toys as he was

into Blue (nick) and Power Rangers for a tim and lots of other toys that they

probably have now determined had lead! And I would be amiss if i negleacted to

add the cigartte smoke he is aound (no flaming please. I can't control my dh).

He has eaten organic most of his life. I guess all that matters now is the

chelating. Thanks for info and I'll get to it soon!

Laurie

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