Re:land - Why has there been NO report of what happened in land

[Guest guest]

On cable news last night, and during the afternoon, were filmed interviews with

some irate parents, none who particularly minded their children having the shots

but that they " could be doing something else " or " being dragged to court when my

child has her shots like I'm not a good parent or something " and the ones that

had a happier edge " ...when my child has already had chickenpox. "

I was surprised (and worse) that there was no comment on health basics such as

the immune strength of current health of the child.? At the last minute I

suggested to one of the major alert groups asking for a waiver letter (all

official involved sign away their own immunity under color of law in case

something happens to a child and family as a result of the coerced shots).

There were and are some comments about the constitutionality of the coerced

vaccinations and I suspect there will not only be considerably more but that

they can and should become a major issue in the US presidential primary debates

and campaigns.

Barbara

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I caught a brief snippet of the vaccine story in land on CNN yesterday and saw a long line of parents and children, apparently heading into the courthouse to either shoot up or go to jail.

My middle age suburban white guy eyes saw a long line of Hispanics and African Americans. Hmmmm...

I wonder if a prosecutor could get away with those Gestapo tactics in say, Dupage county, Illinois, or Marin county, California?

I think not.

Harry H.See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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I agree. I posted the demos yesterday from Wiki.

On 11/18/07 10:10 AM, " hhofher@... " <hhofher@...> wrote:

I caught a brief snippet of the vaccine story in land on CNN yesterday and saw a long line of parents and children, apparently heading into the courthouse to either shoot up or go to jail.

My middle age suburban white guy eyes saw a long line of Hispanics and African Americans. Hmmmm...

I wonder if a prosecutor could get away with those Gestapo tactics in say, Dupage county, Illinois, or Marin county, California?

I think not.

Harry H.

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We recently moved from Prince 's County in MD.

I seriously doubt that this was a racist thing. The majority of the

population in the county is black and Hispanic. Caucasians make up

something like 22% of the population.

Georga

On Nov 18, 2007 10:16 AM, christine <christine@...> wrote:

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> I caught a brief snippet of the vaccine story in land on CNN yesterday

> and saw a long line of parents and children, apparently heading into the

> courthouse to either shoot up or go to jail.

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> My middle age suburban white guy eyes saw a long line of Hispanics and

> African Americans. Hmmmm...

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> I wonder if a prosecutor could get away with those Gestapo tactics in say,

> Dupage county, Illinois, or Marin county, California?

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> I think not.

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> Harry H.

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At 10:10 AM 11/18/2007 EST, you wrote:

> go to jail. Hispanics and African Americans. Hmmmm... I

>wonder if a prosecutor could get away with those Gestapo tactics in say,

>Dupage county, Illinois, or Marin county, California? I think not.

Harry H.

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posted this yesterday

I saw the photos of 2 of the people involved (on one of the websites) and

they were African-American - Ivey and another.

Sheri

2.85% non-Hispanic white

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_%27s_County_Public_Schools

Prince 's County Public Schools

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prince 's County Public Schools (PGCPS) is a large school district

that serves Prince 's County, land, United States.

As of 2006 the district has an enrollment of almost 134,000 students and is

the second largest school district in land (after Montgomery County)

and the 18th largest school district in the nation. PGCPS operates 141

elementary schools, 32 middle schools, and 23 high schools with nine

special centers and two vocational centers, and serves students in Grades

Pre-K through 12th grade employing over 17,000 people. The school system is

overseen by the land State Department of Education. The FY2006 budget

for PGCPS is almost $1.4 billion United States dollars. This is an increase

of over $100 million from the previous year. PGCPS has a per pupil

expenditure of $8,612.

The district is headed by Superintendent Dr. E. Deasy. A.

Burnett, the former chief human resources officer of the school district,

was interim replacement CEO through April, 2006. Dr. Deasy took office on

May 1, 2006, and was the former superintendent of the Santa -Malibu

Unified School District.

In terms of racial demographics, African-Americans make up the majority of

the systems students at 74.35% followed by 13.60% Hispanic, 6.14%

non-Hispanic white, 2.85% Asian, and 0.52% Native American.

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It’s 6.14% non-hispanic white

On 11/18/07 10:43 AM, " Sheri Nakken " <snakken@...> wrote:

At 10:10 AM 11/18/2007 EST, you wrote:

> go to jail. Hispanics and African Americans. Hmmmm... I

>wonder if a prosecutor could get away with those Gestapo tactics in say,

>Dupage county, Illinois, or Marin county, California? I think not.

Harry H.

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posted this yesterday

I saw the photos of 2 of the people involved (on one of the websites) and

they were African-American - Ivey and another.

Sheri

2.85% non-Hispanic white

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_%27s_County_Public_Schools

Prince 's County Public Schools

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prince 's County Public Schools (PGCPS) is a large school district

that serves Prince 's County, land, United States.

As of 2006 the district has an enrollment of almost 134,000 students and is

the second largest school district in land (after Montgomery County)

and the 18th largest school district in the nation. PGCPS operates 141

elementary schools, 32 middle schools, and 23 high schools with nine

special centers and two vocational centers, and serves students in Grades

Pre-K through 12th grade employing over 17,000 people. The school system is

overseen by the land State Department of Education. The FY2006 budget

for PGCPS is almost $1.4 billion United States dollars. This is an increase

of over $100 million from the previous year. PGCPS has a per pupil

expenditure of $8,612.

The district is headed by Superintendent Dr. E. Deasy. A.

Burnett, the former chief human resources officer of the school district,

was interim replacement CEO through April, 2006. Dr. Deasy took office on

May 1, 2006, and was the former superintendent of the Santa -Malibu

Unified School District.

In terms of racial demographics, African-Americans make up the majority of

the systems students at 74.35% followed by 13.60% Hispanic, 6.14%

non-Hispanic white, 2.85% Asian, and 0.52% Native American.

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

Voicemail US 530-740-0561

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm or

http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line courses - http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccineclass.htm

Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line courses - http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm

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If I may just make an objective observation...  I think Georga was saying it can't be racist (singling out Afr. Am. and and Hisp.) because that is the racial make-up of the whole county, but I think Harry's point was that is precisely why that county was chosen.  It wouldn't fly in a predom. white, perhaps more affluent and privileged county. That was my take fwiw...On Nov 18, 2007, at 7:46 AM, christine wrote: Just asking- So- how is it NOT a racist thing when it’s mostly non-whites? On 11/18/07 10:23 AM, "Georga Hackworth" <gahackworth@...> wrote:     We recently moved from Prince 's County in MD. I seriously doubt that this was a racist thing.  The majority of the population in the county is black and Hispanic.  Caucasians make up something like 22% of the population. GeorgaAOLCMP00300000001170> > and Make AOL Your Homepage > <http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169> . > > > >  

[Guest guest]

Prince 's County has a lot of problems. I really shouldn't pick

on PG County. I should say that the entire MD area of Metro DC has a

lot of problems. That area is a world unto itself. A lot of people

that I know that have lived there have said that it is the most

screwed up place that they have ever lived. Crap that is normal in

that area wouldn't fly anywhere else in the United States. I don't

know if it's because of the number of politicians that live in the

area or what it is. Might as well build a wall around that area and

call it New Berlin or something. Yes, it's that bad. My husband was

in the Navy for 10 years and we have moved around a lot and I hated

that area like no other that I have ever lived in.

It's rather common for county workers to abuse the power that they are

given (and, for the record, most of those county workers are not

white). There is a lot of corruption going on there in general. I

think they get away with it partly because of the language barrier,

partly because of the " poor " population (translated: those that don't

live in million dollar homes - the entire Beltway area, as it's

called, is a land of extremes. There is no middle ground to

anything). A lot of people in the county speak very limited English

(it's so bad that the two major hospitals in the area will not hire

doctors and nurses unless they are bilingual. Same for teachers in a

lot of the elementary schools - classes are taught in both English and

Spanish) so I think it's easier for the government there to get away

with the crap that they do. No one thinks enough to stand up to them

and say " This is screwed up and we don't have to put up with it " so

everything goes unchallenged.

We are in the process of filing a lawsuit against the county over

something else but it still comes down to abuse of power, corruption,

and violation of personal rights. Even more disturbing is that there

are very few lawyers that are even willing to take on the county

because of the corruption and abuse of power.

I hate to say this, but I am really not surprised that Prince 's

County pulled this crap. If I had to pick any one county in the US

that would do something like this I would have picked PG County.

Georga

On Nov 18, 2007 11:03 AM, Trish <minniemimi1@...> wrote:

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> expenditure of $8,612. "

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> So, the average cost to " properly " educate a child with autism in our

> school district (a suburb of Cleveland, Oh) seems to be around

> 60,000.00 a year. What will PGCPS be spending per child in the next

> few years when the number of dxs go up? Not only are they forcing a

> one-size-fits-all vaccine on these kids, they still have all of the

> children born to flu vaccinated pregnant moms and their infant

> offspring to deal with! And even though they say the mercury is out of

> the rest of the vaccines, they are still dealing with multiple traces

> which add up, as well as aluminum etc!!!!

> Ohhh...when will it end? It still fries my ass to think that Mr. Ivey

> refused the Hep B for his own children...

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> -Trish

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Georga

[Guest guest]

49 school districts/counties in land. Ranking from best to worst

schools puts Baltimore City schools at number 49. Prince 's

County schools are number 48. What does that tell you? Prince

s and Baltimore City schools make the worst Cleveland Public

Schools look ivy league. What does that tell you?

Yes, I grew up in Ohio and know the Akron/Canton/Cleveland area pretty well.

I don't have a lot good to say about Canton schools (they were the

deciding factor in me homeschooling, because that is where we lived at

the time when our oldest was ready for kindergarten) but I have even

less good to say about PGCPS.

Georga

On Nov 18, 2007 11:03 AM, Trish <minniemimi1@...> wrote:

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> " PGCPS has a per pupil

> expenditure of $8,612. "

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> So, the average cost to " properly " educate a child with autism in our

> school district (a suburb of Cleveland, Oh) seems to be around

> 60,000.00 a year. What will PGCPS be spending per child in the next

> few years when the number of dxs go up?

[Guest guest]

Great response Georga. This is one of the things about the situation that pisses

me off. Who is standing up for these people? I think we should really get the

ACLU involved.

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Re: Re:land - Why has there been NO report of what

happened in land

Prince 's County has a lot of problems. I really shouldn't pick

on PG County. I should say that the entire MD area of Metro DC has a

lot of problems. That area is a world unto itself. A lot of people

that I know that have lived there have said that it is the most

screwed up place that they have ever lived. Crap that is normal in

that area wouldn't fly anywhere else in the United States. I don't

know if it's because of the number of politicians that live in the

area or what it is. Might as well build a wall around that area and

call it New Berlin or something. Yes, it's that bad. My husband was

in the Navy for 10 years and we have moved around a lot and I hated

that area like no other that I have ever lived in.

It's rather common for county workers to abuse the power that they are

given (and, for the record, most of those county workers are not

white). There is a lot of corruption going on there in general. I

think they get away with it partly because of the language barrier,

partly because of the " poor " population (translated: those that don't

live in million dollar homes - the entire Beltway area, as it's

called, is a land of extremes. There is no middle ground to

anything). A lot of people in the county speak very limited English

(it's so bad that the two major hospitals in the area will not hire

doctors and nurses unless they are bilingual. Same for teachers in a

lot of the elementary schools - classes are taught in both English and

Spanish) so I think it's easier for the government there to get away

with the crap that they do. No one thinks enough to stand up to them

and say " This is screwed up and we don't have to put up with it " so

everything goes unchallenged.

We are in the process of filing a lawsuit against the county over

something else but it still comes down to abuse of power, corruption,

and violation of personal rights. Even more disturbing is that there

are very few lawyers that are even willing to take on the county

because of the corruption and abuse of power.

I hate to say this, but I am really not surprised that Prince 's

County pulled this crap. If I had to pick any one county in the US

that would do something like this I would have picked PG County.

Georga

On Nov 18, 2007 11:03 AM, Trish <minniemimi1@ <mailto:minniemimi1%40>

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> " PGCPS has a per pupil

> expenditure of $8,612. "

>

> So, the average cost to " properly " educate a child with autism in our

> school district (a suburb of Cleveland, Oh) seems to be around

> 60,000.00 a year. What will PGCPS be spending per child in the next

> few years when the number of dxs go up? Not only are they forcing a

> one-size-fits-all vaccine on these kids, they still have all of the

> children born to flu vaccinated pregnant moms and their infant

> offspring to deal with! And even though they say the mercury is out of

> the rest of the vaccines, they are still dealing with multiple traces

> which add up, as well as aluminum etc!!!!

> Ohhh...when will it end? It still fries my ass to think that Mr. Ivey

> refused the Hep B for his own children...

>

> -Trish

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Georga

[Guest guest]

Interesting - can I share what you have written on my other lists - with or

without your name?

Sheri

At 12:39 PM 11/18/2007 -0500, you wrote:

>Prince 's County has a lot of problems. I really shouldn't pick

>on PG County. I should say that the entire MD area of Metro DC has a

>lot of problems. That area is a world unto itself. A lot of people

>that I know that have lived there have said that it is the most

>screwed up place that they have ever lived. Crap that is normal in

>that area wouldn't fly anywhere else in the United States. I don't

>know if it's because of the number of politicians that live in the

>area or what it is. Might as well build a wall around that area and

>call it New Berlin or something. Yes, it's that bad. My husband was

>in the Navy for 10 years and we have moved around a lot and I hated

>that area like no other that I have ever lived in.

>

>It's rather common for county workers to abuse the power that they are

>given (and, for the record, most of those county workers are not

>white). There is a lot of corruption going on there in general. I

>think they get away with it partly because of the language barrier,

>partly because of the " poor " population (translated: those that don't

>live in million dollar homes - the entire Beltway area, as it's

>called, is a land of extremes. There is no middle ground to

>anything). A lot of people in the county speak very limited English

>(it's so bad that the two major hospitals in the area will not hire

>doctors and nurses unless they are bilingual. Same for teachers in a

>lot of the elementary schools - classes are taught in both English and

>Spanish) so I think it's easier for the government there to get away

>with the crap that they do. No one thinks enough to stand up to them

>and say " This is screwed up and we don't have to put up with it " so

>everything goes unchallenged.

>

>We are in the process of filing a lawsuit against the county over

>something else but it still comes down to abuse of power, corruption,

>and violation of personal rights. Even more disturbing is that there

>are very few lawyers that are even willing to take on the county

>because of the corruption and abuse of power.

>

>I hate to say this, but I am really not surprised that Prince 's

>County pulled this crap. If I had to pick any one county in the US

>that would do something like this I would have picked PG County.

>

>Georga

>On Nov 18, 2007 11:03 AM, Trish <minniemimi1@...> wrote:

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>> " PGCPS has a per pupil

>> expenditure of $8,612. "

>>

>> So, the average cost to " properly " educate a child with autism in our

>> school district (a suburb of Cleveland, Oh) seems to be around

>> 60,000.00 a year. What will PGCPS be spending per child in the next

>> few years when the number of dxs go up? Not only are they forcing a

>> one-size-fits-all vaccine on these kids, they still have all of the

>> children born to flu vaccinated pregnant moms and their infant

>> offspring to deal with! And even though they say the mercury is out of

>> the rest of the vaccines, they are still dealing with multiple traces

>> which add up, as well as aluminum etc!!!!

>> Ohhh...when will it end? It still fries my ass to think that Mr. Ivey

>> refused the Hep B for his own children...

>>

>> -Trish

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>Georga

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