Re: Healthy unvaccinated children

[Guest guest]

That is a great idea! I will definitely send you pics and brief story.

Maybe I should create a web page too. I have struggled with myself because I

have not done all that I might to encourage others.. Maybe having raised my

unvaxed kids to adulthood would be a good one to put out there for all of those

who struggle with the decision!

Blessings,

Mavis

" The only true gift is a portion of thyself. "

Ralph Waldo Emerson

In a message dated 11/26/2007 12:23:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

meryl@... writes:

Hi all,

This discussion on the college in Mass that is kicking up a stink and

the reply about Mavis who has not vaccinated for 22 years has gotten me

thinking that so often, we concentrate so hard on vaccine injuries, we

totally ignore the very healthy unvaccinated kids around us. I think

this is a very powerful image - that of the child who is perhaps now an

adult who has either never contracted any of these illnesses or who has

contracted them and recovered stronger and healthier than ever. I know

that as a mother, if I had known in the beginning that you could have a

child, not vaccinate them and not only would they survive childhood

(don't laugh - that was a real fear of mine!) but be healthy, happy and

well-balanced if they were NOT vaccinated, I never would have started

off with the vaccination schedule for my first two.

The AVN currently has a children's gallery

<_http://www.avn.http://www.avn.http://w_

(http://www.avn.org.au/childgallery.html) > on our website with pictures

and stories of children who have been injured by vaccines. I would like

to ask if any of you parents out there would be willing to share your

children's stories (or if you are an unvaccinated adult - your own

picture and story) for inclusion on a new page of our website, yet to be

named (hey, the idea just came to me, OK? J ) on healthy outcomes? Also,

what should we call this page? Natural Immunity, Healthy children

naturally??

**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest

products.

(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

[Guest guest]

You are absolutely right. Actually, before I knew anything about

vaccines (and this is pobably what most others believe,) I too

thought they were mandatory and really, never heard about anyone not

vaccinating. Also, I thought that the vaccine preventable diseases

were close to 100% fatal.

My sister tells everyone that I don't vaccinate my son and she says

people are just surprised to hear that, they can't understand why I

wouldn't want to, completely unaware of vaccine injury and the fact

that you can be healthy (healthier probably) without them.

>

> Hi all,

>

> This discussion on the college in Mass that is kicking up a stink

and

> the reply about Mavis who has not vaccinated for 22 years has

gotten me

> thinking that so often, we concentrate so hard on vaccine injuries,

we

> totally ignore the very healthy unvaccinated kids around us. I think

> this is a very powerful image - that of the child who is perhaps

now an

> adult who has either never contracted any of these illnesses or who

has

> contracted them and recovered stronger and healthier than ever. I

know

> that as a mother, if I had known in the beginning that you could

have a

> child, not vaccinate them and not only would they survive childhood

> (don't laugh - that was a real fear of mine!) but be healthy, happy

and

> well-balanced if they were NOT vaccinated, I never would have

started

> off with the vaccination schedule for my first two.

>

>

>

> The AVN currently has a children's gallery

> <http://www.avn.org.au/childgallery.html> on our website with

pictures

> and stories of children who have been injured by vaccines. I would

like

> to ask if any of you parents out there would be willing to share

your

> children's stories (or if you are an unvaccinated adult - your own

> picture and story) for inclusion on a new page of our website, yet

to be

> named (hey, the idea just came to me, OK? J ) on healthy outcomes?

Also,

> what should we call this page? Natural Immunity, Healthy children

> naturally??

>

>

>

> Any input would be appreciated and please send your pictures to me

by

> private email to meryl@... I don't need a long story - just a

> paragraph or two about each child would be fantastic and I will not

use

> any surnames on the website nor will your email address be listed or

> anything else that can identify you, including your country. Also,

our

> long-suffering web designer and magazine designer, Sarita, is in the

> process of totally redoing the website so it will be easier for

everyone

> in the office to update so it may be several weeks/months before

this

> page is up but it will be a feature of our website with your

assistance

> in sending in those pictures and stories.

>

>

>

> Thanks in advance for your help,

>

> Meryl

>

>

>

>

>

> Meryl Dorey,

>

> President

>

> Australian Vaccination Network

>

> Enabling Australians to make informed health choices

>

> Editor

>

> Informed Voice Magazine

>

> Your Health - Your Rights - Your Options

>

> PO Box 177

>

> BANGALOW NSW 2479

>

> Phone: (61 +2) 02 6687 1699

>

> FAX (61 +2) 02 6687 2032

>

> SKYPE: ivmmag

>

> meryl@... <mailto:meryl@...>

>

> www.avn.org.au <http://www.avn.org.au/>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think it's a great idea - the truth really does end any struggle most people

are even having. My daughter is 15 months, unvaccinated, and the healthiest kid

I know. Twice last week, I sat in two different rooms with friends and their

children. One is a day care mom, 5 kids ages 6 months -6 years, 4 of them with

colds or the chicken pox. Later that weekend with my friends and thier own

kids, 3 of them, 14 months, 2, and 27 months, all with colds and runny noses and

ear infections. Both places I was debating with them over vaccines, and I

couldn't get them to understand how vaccinated could be bad for their immune

system. No matter what I said, I was wrong, but later that night, my husband

(who has been on board from the beginning, but trusted my research and hasn't

done any of his own) noted that our daughter was the only kid we had seen all

day that didn't have a runny nose, or a rash, or an ear infection. She's never

been sick, never had a fever, and she's been around my husband and I while we

were sick.

I'd say that's a pretty good immune system. Who can argue with proof?? I'm not

saying she'll never get sick, but she's been exposed, and has yet to actually

come down with anything. Unfortunately, I do not know any adults personally

that are vax free, or even older kids. We'll see how she does!

: )

Re: Healthy unvaccinated children

That is a great idea! I will definitely send you pics and brief story.

Maybe I should create a web page too. I have struggled with myself because I

have not done all that I might to encourage others.. Maybe having raised my

unvaxed kids to adulthood would be a good one to put out there for all of

those

who struggle with the decision!

Blessings,

Mavis

" The only true gift is a portion of thyself. "

Ralph Waldo Emerson

In a message dated 11/26/2007 12:23:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

meryl@... writes:

Hi all,

This discussion on the college in Mass that is kicking up a stink and

the reply about Mavis who has not vaccinated for 22 years has gotten me

thinking that so often, we concentrate so hard on vaccine injuries, we

totally ignore the very healthy unvaccinated kids around us. I think

this is a very powerful image - that of the child who is perhaps now an

adult who has either never contracted any of these illnesses or who has

contracted them and recovered stronger and healthier than ever. I know

that as a mother, if I had known in the beginning that you could have a

child, not vaccinate them and not only would they survive childhood

(don't laugh - that was a real fear of mine!) but be healthy, happy and

well-balanced if they were NOT vaccinated, I never would have started

off with the vaccination schedule for my first two.

The AVN currently has a children's gallery

<_http://www.avn.http://www.avn.http://w_

(http://www.avn.org.au/childgallery.html) > on our website with pictures

and stories of children who have been injured by vaccines. I would like

to ask if any of you parents out there would be willing to share your

children's stories (or if you are an unvaccinated adult - your own

picture and story) for inclusion on a new page of our website, yet to be

named (hey, the idea just came to me, OK? J ) on healthy outcomes? Also,

what should we call this page? Natural Immunity, Healthy children

naturally??

**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest

products.

(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

[Guest guest]

My daughter is 7 months old, completely unvaccinated and she is the healthiest

kid I know as well. Both my husband and myself have been sick around her as well

as family members and friends and she has not even gotten so much as the

sniffles. She has never had a fever or diaper rash or anything. My family and my

husbands family are all telling me I'm crazy not to vaccinate. That I am being

irresponsible and leaving her susceptible to an array of fatal diseases but I've

done my research and she is healthy so why jeopardize that with potentially

harmful vaccines?

Re: Healthy unvaccinated children

That is a great idea! I will definitely send you pics and brief story.

Maybe I should create a web page too. I have struggled with myself because I

have not done all that I might to encourage others.. Maybe having raised my

unvaxed kids to adulthood would be a good one to put out there for all of

those

who struggle with the decision!

Blessings,

Mavis

" The only true gift is a portion of thyself. "

Ralph Waldo Emerson

In a message dated 11/26/2007 12:23:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

meryl@.... au writes:

Hi all,

This discussion on the college in Mass that is kicking up a stink and

the reply about Mavis who has not vaccinated for 22 years has gotten me

thinking that so often, we concentrate so hard on vaccine injuries, we

totally ignore the very healthy unvaccinated kids around us. I think

this is a very powerful image - that of the child who is perhaps now an

adult who has either never contracted any of these illnesses or who has

contracted them and recovered stronger and healthier than ever. I know

that as a mother, if I had known in the beginning that you could have a

child, not vaccinate them and not only would they survive childhood

(don't laugh - that was a real fear of mine!) but be healthy, happy and

well-balanced if they were NOT vaccinated, I never would have started

off with the vaccination schedule for my first two.

The AVN currently has a children's gallery

<_http://www.avn. http://www. avn.http: //w_

(http://www.avn. org.au/childgall ery.html) > on our website with pictures

and stories of children who have been injured by vaccines. I would like

to ask if any of you parents out there would be willing to share your

children's stories (or if you are an unvaccinated adult - your own

picture and story) for inclusion on a new page of our website, yet to be

named (hey, the idea just came to me, OK? J ) on healthy outcomes? Also,

what should we call this page? Natural Immunity, Healthy children

naturally??

************ ********* ********* ********Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest

products.

(http://money. aol.com/special/ hot-products- 2007?NCID= aoltop0003000000

0001)

[Guest guest]

I wish there was a website that showed healthy unvaccinated success stories. It

would be very helpful in convincing husbands and families that vaccinating is

unwise and to stop battling our decisions regarding our children.

Healthy unvaccinated children

Hi all,

This discussion on the college in Mass that is kicking up a stink and

the reply about Mavis who has not vaccinated for 22 years has gotten me

thinking that so often, we concentrate so hard on vaccine injuries, we

totally ignore the very healthy unvaccinated kids around us. I think

this is a very powerful image - that of the child who is perhaps now an

adult who has either never contracted any of these illnesses or who has

contracted them and recovered stronger and healthier than ever. I know

that as a mother, if I had known in the beginning that you could have a

child, not vaccinate them and not only would they survive childhood

(don't laugh - that was a real fear of mine!) but be healthy, happy and

well-balanced if they were NOT vaccinated, I never would have started

off with the vaccination schedule for my first two.

The AVN currently has a children's gallery

<http://www.avn. org.au/childgall ery.html> on our website with pictures

and stories of children who have been injured by vaccines. I would like

to ask if any of you parents out there would be willing to share your

children's stories (or if you are an unvaccinated adult - your own

picture and story) for inclusion on a new page of our website, yet to be

named (hey, the idea just came to me, OK? J ) on healthy outcomes? Also,

what should we call this page? Natural Immunity, Healthy children

naturally??

Any input would be appreciated and please send your pictures to me by

private email to meryl@.... au. I don't need a long story - just a

paragraph or two about each child would be fantastic and I will not use

any surnames on the website nor will your email address be listed or

anything else that can identify you, including your country. Also, our

long-suffering web designer and magazine designer, Sarita, is in the

process of totally redoing the website so it will be easier for everyone

in the office to update so it may be several weeks/months before this

page is up but it will be a feature of our website with your assistance

in sending in those pictures and stories.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Meryl

Meryl Dorey,

President

Australian Vaccination Network

Enabling Australians to make informed health choices

Editor

Informed Voice Magazine

Your Health - Your Rights - Your Options

PO Box 177

BANGALOW NSW 2479

Phone: (61 +2) 02 6687 1699

FAX (61 +2) 02 6687 2032

SKYPE: ivmmag

meryl@.... au <mailto:meryl@.... au>

www.avn.org. au <http://www.avn. org.au/>

[Guest guest]

That's what I think too and that's why I would really appreciate anyone

sending me (by private email) their healthy, unvaccinated children's

stories to put up on the AVN's website.

Take care J

Meryl

From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ]

On Behalf Of denielle maragnano

Sent: 27 November 2007 5:46 AM

Vaccinations

Subject: Re: Healthy unvaccinated children

I wish there was a website that showed healthy unvaccinated success

stories. It would be very helpful in convincing husbands and families

that vaccinating is unwise and to stop battling our decisions regarding

our children.

[Guest guest]

Same with my 7 month old son. Perfectly healthy and strong. Never

has had a fever or the sniffles or diarrhea. Has been sitting up on

his own for more than a month, has been rolling over on his own since

4 months, and is already crawling. So right, why ruin a good thing.

I do believe that vaccines destroy the immune system, so I do believe

he will always be healthier than if he were loaded with vaccines.

>

> My daughter is 7 months old, completely unvaccinated and she is the

healthiest kid I know as well. Both my husband and myself have been

sick around her as well as family members and friends and she has not

even gotten so much as the sniffles. She has never had a fever or

diaper rash or anything. My family and my husbands family are all

telling me I'm crazy not to vaccinate. That I am being irresponsible

and leaving her susceptible to an array of fatal diseases but I've

done my research and she is healthy so why jeopardize that with

potentially harmful vaccines?

>

> Re: Healthy unvaccinated children

>

>

>

> That is a great idea! I will definitely send you pics and brief

story.

>

> Maybe I should create a web page too. I have struggled with

myself because I

>

> have not done all that I might to encourage others.. Maybe having

raised my

>

> unvaxed kids to adulthood would be a good one to put out there

for all of those

>

> who struggle with the decision!

>

>

>

> Blessings,

>

> Mavis

>

> " The only true gift is a portion of thyself. "

>

> Ralph Waldo Emerson

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/26/2007 12:23:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>

> meryl@... au writes:

>

>

>

> Hi all,

>

>

>

> This discussion on the college in Mass that is kicking up a stink

and

>

> the reply about Mavis who has not vaccinated for 22 years has

gotten me

>

> thinking that so often, we concentrate so hard on vaccine

injuries, we

>

> totally ignore the very healthy unvaccinated kids around us. I

think

>

> this is a very powerful image - that of the child who is perhaps

now an

>

> adult who has either never contracted any of these illnesses or

who has

>

> contracted them and recovered stronger and healthier than ever. I

know

>

> that as a mother, if I had known in the beginning that you could

have a

>

> child, not vaccinate them and not only would they survive

childhood

>

> (don't laugh - that was a real fear of mine!) but be healthy,

happy and

>

> well-balanced if they were NOT vaccinated, I never would have

started

>

> off with the vaccination schedule for my first two.

>

>

>

> The AVN currently has a children's gallery

>

> <_http://www.avn. http://www. avn.http: //w_

>

> (http://www.avn. org.au/childgall ery.html) > on our website with

pictures

>

> and stories of children who have been injured by vaccines. I

would like

>

> to ask if any of you parents out there would be willing to share

your

>

> children's stories (or if you are an unvaccinated adult - your own

>

> picture and story) for inclusion on a new page of our website,

yet to be

>

> named (hey, the idea just came to me, OK? J ) on healthy

outcomes? Also,

>

> what should we call this page? Natural Immunity, Healthy children

>

> naturally??

>

>

>

> ************ ********* ********* ********Check out AOL's list of

2007's hottest

>

> products.

>

> (http://money. aol.com/special/ hot-products- 2007?NCID=

aoltop0003000000 0001)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You sound like me, Vida. I had never given vaccinating much thought before

I had kids and the first 10 years of their lives. I just thought everyone

vaccinated because that was the thing to do.

I can give a testimony from the opposite end of the scale (healthy unvaxed

kids). My kids were born in 1989 and 1991. They didn't start getting

vaccines until 2 months back then, and there were quite a few less vaccines

then, too. It was still enough to do damage, though. Their motor skills

were advanced (sitting and crawling at 5 months, walking at 8 and 9 months,

etc.), but their physical health was awful.

My dd had 3 fevers, colds/ear infections her first year of life and was very

sick with colds, fevers, coughs, etc. the first 10 years of her life.

My ds had 9 illnesses (fevers, colds/ear infections, bronchiolitis,

gastroenteritis, roseola, etc.) his first year, and end up with tubes in his

ears at 19 months. He, too, continued to be very sick until we stopped

vaccinating and stopped going to an allopathic doctor. They were both

ALWAYS on antibiotics and cold medicine.

Sure do wish I knew then what I know now!!

Kay

Re: Healthy unvaccinated children

> You are absolutely right. Actually, before I knew anything about

> vaccines (and this is pobably what most others believe,) I too

> thought they were mandatory and really, never heard about anyone not

> vaccinating. Also, I thought that the vaccine preventable diseases

> were close to 100% fatal.

> My sister tells everyone that I don't vaccinate my son and she says

> people are just surprised to hear that, they can't understand why I

> wouldn't want to, completely unaware of vaccine injury and the fact

> that you can be healthy (healthier probably) without them.

[Guest guest]

Meryl,

I will PM you, but wanted to add to the discussion.

Jack has had one vaccine, the Hib, starting at 7 months. We have chosen

to not vaccinate for anything else.

He's had plenty of colds - 7 by my count. No ear infections. He has a

cough lingering from this last cold, though. Anyway... I know he's

healthier than the other kids in his playgroup. One family, OY! The

family of 5 - 2 parents, 13yo, 7yo, 2yo - all got flu shots. Mom said

that they had to because oldest boy has asthma. They have been sick

constantly since! They all got the flu, then a week later, they all got

strep throat. It is taking all of my willpower to not say to this woman

- good thing you got the flu shot!

I'm not one to put all behaviors down to vaccination status. That is,

just because a child who has been vaxxed exhibits an undesirable trait,

does not mean that the behavior was caused by the vax. And the reverse

is also true - just because an unvaxxed child exhibits a good quality,

doesn't mean that the quality is caused by the lack of vaxes. But, just

today, I've had this thought: My son is 22 months, and has the

vocabulary of a 4 yo. The 24 month milestone charts say that he should

have between 20 and 50 words. He certainly has more than 100. He says

words, and he knows what they mean. He comprehends what we are reading

to him. He says his ABCs and counts to 10. One of the girls in playgroup

(the one of the flu shot family) is also very bright, and a bit ahead of

the curve. But the rest of the kids are actually behind in their

language acquisition skills. Just today, I was thinking if that could be

due to vaccines. I don't want to blame vaccines for all the ills of the

world, but, is it possible that all that extra junk is impeding their

mental progress? It's just a thought.

~Robyn

Meryl Dorey wrote:

>

> That's what I think too and that's why I would really appreciate anyone

> sending me (by private email) their healthy, unvaccinated children's

> stories to put up on the AVN's website.

>

> Take care J

>

> Meryl

>

> From: Vaccinations

> <mailto:Vaccinations%40>

> [mailto:Vaccinations

> <mailto:Vaccinations%40>]

> On Behalf Of denielle maragnano

> Sent: 27 November 2007 5:46 AM

> Vaccinations <mailto:Vaccinations%40>

> Subject: Re: Healthy unvaccinated children

>

> I wish there was a website that showed healthy unvaccinated success

> stories. It would be very helpful in convincing husbands and families

> that vaccinating is unwise and to stop battling our decisions regarding

> our children.

>

>

[Guest guest]

22 months and over 100 words?! Counts to 10…. Wow. I want to cry.

We went to a community forum for autism awareness yesterday. The general

consensus of opinion is this town sucks for trying to get help with your

autistic child. Isn’t that just grand?! (not)

Our ped. Told us “they don’t do under 5. call these people” gave me some

names. One of them is a clinical psychologist. She “does 2 y.o.’s” but

she gets us started. So I called yesterday after the forum and asked

‘well why is it only getting started? Is it b/c it takes more sessions

or b/c she’s not experienced with so young?” I don’t want to waste my

time here.

One mom had to sue the school board to get any services b/c they kept

telling her her child was “just fine” and she knew better. One lady

there is a special ed teacher from GA and moved to AL and was astonished

at what is offered and moreso, rather what is NOT offered.

has had absolutely no vaccine at all and he’s very healthy. He’s

had a few colds. He did have one febrile seizure..at least, that is what

his doctor said it was. No ear infections. No flu. No formula. Just

barely getting weaned. No daycare. He’s very smart. You can see that but

he’s not verbal at all yet except for a few random sounds.

’s always been really healthy too and he’s completely unvaxxed.

Just some colds. I think flu when he was a baby but daddy had the flu

too.

The other kids have been healthy but was my only formula baby and

she was sick more than the others. She nursed until 9 months. From 4 to

9 months, only would nurse at night. She had a few ear infections. She

had one about 4 years ago too.

I don’t think it’s strictly vaccines that make them unhealthy and I

don’t believe vaccines make one healthy either.

Nita, yes my hands are full, but not my heart: 14, Jon 13,

10, 8, 6, Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2,

and due 2/08

Some minds are like concrete:

Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

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[Guest guest]

My two kids are also very healthy. I say that as my 7 year is just

coming off the flu, but when I decided to stop vaxxing them, I didn't

expect they'd never get sick. His flu consisted of a headache,

extreme fatigue and a sore throat. It lasted a day and then it was

gone the next morning.

That is the first time he's been sick since I can remember. He was

fully vaccinated as a baby, but not since.

My younger son (4.5 years) who has not been vaccinated at all has not

gotten this flu (as of yet) nor does he really get anything else. He

just doesn't get sick and if he does, the only word I can put on it

is the " sniffles " because he never really gets full blown sick.

Both kids, ages 7 and 4.5, have never had strep throat or an ear

infection and my youngest has never been on a course of antibiotics

and my older son was on one course for fluid in his ear that might

have become infected (that was before I knew better). The doctors

also wanted to put tubes in his ears and when I said no, I was

verbally abused by the doctor.

They're extremely healthy and nobody believes me when I say they've

not been on the requisite gazillion courses of antibiotics, have not

had strep, not had an ear infections and rarely get sick. This is

despite being around those who are sick and playing regularly (at

least 3x/week) at an indoor playground, which we all know is just a

giant petri dish.

This sounds strange, but I'm glad when they get sick. This recent

bought with the flu gave us a chance to talk about what was going on

in his body. He asked why he got sick and that launched us into a

discussion about viruses, what they do in the body and how his body

was on top of the situation. He also asked why he felt so cold so we

got a chance to talk about fevers and why they're a very good thing

and why it's important to let them do their thing.

The next day he woke up feeling fine and said " My body did it! It

killed the virus! " YAY for having faith in your body!!

Roni

[Guest guest]

I don't know what I was vaxxed for as a child, I was born in Italy in

1978 so am not sure on their vax schedule at the time and then don't

know what they did to me when I came here. Anyways, I suffered from

severe ear infections as a child. They were so painful and I would

get fevers up to 105 and once even went to the hospital. I pray my

son does not have to go through that too.

When I was 13 I got a tetanus shot because I was riding my bike and

crashed with a rusted fence.

When I was 16 there was a two year period when I was again living in

Italy and some sewage line broke into the main water lines so they

vaccinated the whole town against hepatitis A and typhoid. I

remember shortly after I had to get glasses because of really bad

astigmatism, although I recall that before that my vision was pretty

good (so I thought anyways, is probably completely unrelated.)

I think of course there are many factors in health, including luck

However, I cannot believe that viruses, bacteria, animal DNA, toxins,

and heavy metals injeted into a child can be in any way healthy. So

although there are healthy and unhealthy vaccinated or unvaccinated

children, I do think on the individual level that a child will always

be healthier unvaccinated than if they had gotten all hundred

recommended vaccines. I also think that as a child it is too soon to

really see this, the whole life must be looked at.

>

> My two kids are also very healthy. I say that as my 7 year is just

> coming off the flu, but when I decided to stop vaxxing them, I

didn't

> expect they'd never get sick. His flu consisted of a headache,

> extreme fatigue and a sore throat. It lasted a day and then it was

> gone the next morning.

>

> That is the first time he's been sick since I can remember. He was

> fully vaccinated as a baby, but not since.

>

> My younger son (4.5 years) who has not been vaccinated at all has

not

> gotten this flu (as of yet) nor does he really get anything else.

He

> just doesn't get sick and if he does, the only word I can put on it

> is the " sniffles " because he never really gets full blown sick.

>

> Both kids, ages 7 and 4.5, have never had strep throat or an ear

> infection and my youngest has never been on a course of antibiotics

> and my older son was on one course for fluid in his ear that might

> have become infected (that was before I knew better). The doctors

> also wanted to put tubes in his ears and when I said no, I was

> verbally abused by the doctor.

>

> They're extremely healthy and nobody believes me when I say they've

> not been on the requisite gazillion courses of antibiotics, have

not

> had strep, not had an ear infections and rarely get sick. This is

> despite being around those who are sick and playing regularly (at

> least 3x/week) at an indoor playground, which we all know is just a

> giant petri dish.

>

> This sounds strange, but I'm glad when they get sick. This recent

> bought with the flu gave us a chance to talk about what was going

on

> in his body. He asked why he got sick and that launched us into a

> discussion about viruses, what they do in the body and how his body

> was on top of the situation. He also asked why he felt so cold so

we

> got a chance to talk about fevers and why they're a very good thing

> and why it's important to let them do their thing.

>

> The next day he woke up feeling fine and said " My body did it! It

> killed the virus! " YAY for having faith in your body!!

>

> Roni

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I wish there was a website that showed healthy unvaccinated success

stories. It would be very helpful in convincing husbands and families

that vaccinating is unwise and to stop battling our decisions

regarding our children.

>

> Healthy unvaccinated children

>

> hi denielle we have a 2 year old and she has had none of the

vaccine. every one of my famlys kids are vaccanted and they are sick

all the time ower little jeana has not been sick at all what does

that tell you

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi all,

>

>

>

> This discussion on the college in Mass that is kicking up a stink

and

>

> the reply about Mavis who has not vaccinated for 22 years has

gotten me

>

> thinking that so often, we concentrate so hard on vaccine injuries,

we

>

> totally ignore the very healthy unvaccinated kids around us. I think

>

> this is a very powerful image - that of the child who is perhaps

now an

>

> adult who has either never contracted any of these illnesses or who

has

>

> contracted them and recovered stronger and healthier than ever. I

know

>

> that as a mother, if I had known in the beginning that you could

have a

>

> child, not vaccinate them and not only would they survive childhood

>

> (don't laugh - that was a real fear of mine!) but be healthy, happy

and

>

> well-balanced if they were NOT vaccinated, I never would have

started

>

> off with the vaccination schedule for my first two.

>

>

>

> The AVN currently has a children's gallery

>

> <http://www.avn. org.au/childgall ery.html> on our website with

pictures

>

> and stories of children who have been injured by vaccines. I would

like

>

> to ask if any of you parents out there would be willing to share

your

>

> children's stories (or if you are an unvaccinated adult - your own

>

> picture and story) for inclusion on a new page of our website, yet

to be

>

> named (hey, the idea just came to me, OK? J ) on healthy outcomes?

Also,

>

> what should we call this page? Natural Immunity, Healthy children

>

> naturally??

>

>

>

> Any input would be appreciated and please send your pictures to me

by

>

> private email to meryl@... au. I don't need a long story - just a

>

> paragraph or two about each child would be fantastic and I will not

use

>

> any surnames on the website nor will your email address be listed or

>

> anything else that can identify you, including your country. Also,

our

>

> long-suffering web designer and magazine designer, Sarita, is in the

>

> process of totally redoing the website so it will be easier for

everyone

>

> in the office to update so it may be several weeks/months before

this

>

> page is up but it will be a feature of our website with your

assistance

>

> in sending in those pictures and stories.

>

>

>

> Thanks in advance for your help,

>

>

>

> Meryl

>

>

>

> Meryl Dorey,

>

>

>

> President

>

>

>

> Australian Vaccination Network

>

>

>

> Enabling Australians to make informed health choices

>

>

>

> Editor

>

>

>

> Informed Voice Magazine

>

>

>

> Your Health - Your Rights - Your Options

>

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> PO Box 177

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