Conjugate Vaccines Give Rise to Penicillin-Resistant Pneumococcal Clones

[Guest guest]

More of what we have been talking about........

..HIB meningitis decreases--->pneumococcal meningitis increases----->Prevnar

vaccine---->non-vaccine type Streptococcus pneumoniae strains (and I would

add, what the articles of the last week have pointed out - INCREASE in MRSA

Antibiotics and vaccines have done this

What we have said all along - nature abhors a vacuum. We have SAID THIS

ALL ALONG. But they are so much smarter than us.

Vaccinate against 7 strains, 9 strains, 11 strains............a new strain

will just appear.

Sheri

From Belkin

" " Penicillin-nonsusceptible pneumococcal clones of serotypes not related to

those included in the 11-valent conjugate vaccines may derive from capsular

transformation of vaccine-related serotypes, " the authors speculate.

" This phenomenon, although seemingly rare at present, can have implications

for the long-term effectiveness of the conjugate vaccines, " they conclude. "

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/495570

Conjugate Vaccines Give Rise to Penicillin-Resistant Pneumococcal Clones

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Dec 08 - In southern Israel, where

antipneumococcal conjugate vaccines have not been introduced, researchers

have documented the presence of penicillin-nonsusceptible non-vaccine type

Streptococcus pneumoniae strains in children with acute otitis media.

Dr. Nurith Porat of Soroka University Medical Center in Beersheva, and

colleagues, explain in the December 15th issue of The Journal of Infectious

Diseases that after the introduction in 2000 of a pneumococcal conjugate

vaccine, there was a shift toward carriage of pneumococcal strains that had

not been included in the vaccine.

Dr. Porat's group used pulsed-field gel electrophoresis to analyze

nasopharyngeal and middle ear isolates obtained from children in Israel

between 1998 and 2003, and from children in Costa Rica between 1998 and 2001.

In the Israeli samples, all from children under the age of 5 years, the

researchers studied 46 nasopharyngeal and middle ear fluid isolates

expressing serotype 11A and 45 middle ear fluid isolates expressing

serotype 15B/C. In addition, using middle ear fluid samples obtained from

young children in Costa Rica, the researchers analyzed 57 isolates

expressing serotype 19F.

Genotypic analyses of the Israeli samples revealed " two clusters expressing

non-vaccine type serotypes with a genetic background closely related to

that of two vaccine type clones, " according to the article.

One was documented in a cluster of isolates expressing serotype 11A, and

the other in a cluster of isolates expressing serotype 15B/C. Both clones

were more common among Bedouin children than among Jewish children.

According to the article, the electrophoresis patterns of the first clone

" were almost indistinguishable...from those of the penicillin-resistant

serotype 9V/14 international clone, which was first identified in Spain and

France, " and has become widely disseminated around the world. The pattern

of the second clone was closely related to that of the serotype 19F clone

recovered from the Costa Rican children.

" Penicillin-nonsusceptible pneumococcal clones of serotypes not related to

those included in the 11-valent conjugate vaccines may derive from capsular

transformation of vaccine-related serotypes, " the authors speculate.

" This phenomenon, although seemingly rare at present, can have implications

for the long-term effectiveness of the conjugate vaccines, " they conclude.

J Infect Dis 2004;190:2154-2161.

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Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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[Guest guest]

So, Sheri - while totally accepting of what you say below, what *has*

happened to Haemophilus Influenzae? Has it been eradicated by the overuse

of antibiotics and did the vaccine actually have the effect of decreasing

its incidence? Or has it just mutated?

I've decided that I'm at the place of accepting that these organisms are the

result of disease rather than the cause. But when anyone asks me, " what

about the fact that you don't see HiB (or whatever) any more " , I am never

quite sure how to answer.

Love, light and peace,

Sue

-- Conjugate Vaccines Give Rise to Penicillin-Resistant

Pneumococcal Clones

More of what we have been talking about........

..HIB meningitis decreases--->pneumococcal meningitis

Increases----->Prevnar vaccine---->non-vaccine type Streptococcus

Pneumoniae strains (and I would add, what the articles of the last

Week have pointed out - INCREASE in MRSA

Antibiotics and vaccines have done this

What we have said all along - nature abhors a vacuum. We have SAID

THIS ALL ALONG. But they are so much smarter than us.

Vaccinate against 7 strains, 9 strains, 11 strains............a new

Strain will just appear.

Sheri

From Belkin

" " Penicillin-nonsusceptible pneumococcal clones of serotypes not

Related to those included in the 11-valent conjugate vaccines may

Derive from capsular transformation of vaccine-related serotypes, "

The authors speculate.

" This phenomenon, although seemingly rare at present, can have

Implications for the long-term effectiveness of the conjugate

Vaccines, " they conclude. "

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/495570

Conjugate Vaccines Give Rise to Penicillin-Resistant Pneumococcal Clones

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Dec 08 - In southern Israel, where

Antipneumococcal conjugate vaccines have not been introduced,

Researchers have documented the presence of penicillin-nonsusceptible

Non-vaccine type Streptococcus pneumoniae strains in children with

Acute otitis media.

[Guest guest]

At 09:06 PM 3/16/2008, you wrote:

>So, Sheri - while totally accepting of what you say below, what *has*

>happened to Haemophilus Influenzae? Has it been eradicated by the overuse

>of antibiotics and did the vaccine actually have the effect of decreasing

>its incidence? Or has it just mutated?

>

>I've decided that I'm at the place of accepting that these organisms are the

>result of disease rather than the cause. But when anyone asks me, " what

>about the fact that you don't see HiB (or whatever) any more " , I am never

>quite sure how to answer.

It appears that vaccines are acting similar to antibiotics

Suppressing one strain and another arises.

It is too hard to try to get my head around 'does bacteria cause

disease' or is it the 'result of disease', so I try to avoid that

conversation anymore as I can't prove anything.

I think bacteria/viruses are more the result of disease and doing a

job - I will say that - and so when the vaccine is given, a chronic

case of illness with HIB is injected and on some level the child is

chronically ill with HIB and can't get an acute case because

chronically ill with it and the chronic illness is stronger (a

homeopathic principle)

But to answer others, from their frame of reference that bacteria

causes disease..............I would say that the vaccine has caused

it to mutate just as antibiotics do.

See Yazbak's & 's articles I also sent.

Its almost as if the child is destined for some reason to have

meningitis and HIB will be present and blamed for the

meningitis. But after vaccine use with HIB vaccine, HIB has been

supppressed and another strain will show up that is not in

vaccine. Penumococcal strains. Then Prevnar and we see different

strains not in vaccine..........etc.

Any thoughts?

Sheri