Re: antibodies???

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I was told the same thing but with HepB...never heard of it with C..??? Maybe can help us on this one...Hugs, Pat

Antibodies???

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I I just got a call from one of my old Friends from back in my doper days. She was the first one I called to tell to get checked when I found out about the HCV. She told me then that she'd gotten tested & was negative. Tonight she said she has the antibodies but not the HCV. She says her doctor told her that this means she must have been infected but her body fought it off. Is this possible????

SuZie

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Yes Suzie It just is not very common. I remember Reading it some where. I will send you the story if I can find it. love and hugs d suzie <suzieandsandy@...> wrote: I I I just got a call from one of my old Friends from back in my doper days. She was the first one I called to tell to get checked when I found out about the

HCV. She told me then that she'd gotten tested & was negative. Tonight she said she has the antibodies but not the HCV. She says her doctor told her that this means she must have been infected but her body fought it off. Is this possible???? SuZie I Next time I'm coming back as a

cat

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Yes Suzie It just is not very common. I remember Reading it some where. I will send you the story if I can find it. love and hugs d suzie <suzieandsandy@...> wrote: I I I just got a call from one of my old Friends from back in my doper days. She was the first one I called to tell to get checked when I found out about the

HCV. She told me then that she'd gotten tested & was negative. Tonight she said she has the antibodies but not the HCV. She says her doctor told her that this means she must have been infected but her body fought it off. Is this possible???? SuZie I Next time I'm coming back as a

cat

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My mom was that way with b. That is why I remember reading about the rare occaision that it does happen with c. I will look for the article I read it in. love ya all dPat McBride <pmcbride1@...> wrote: I was told the same thing but with HepB...never heard of it with C..??? Maybe can help us on this one...Hugs, Pat Antibodies??? I I I just got a call from one of my old Friends from back in my doper

days. She was the first one I called to tell to get checked when I found out about the HCV. She told me then that she'd gotten tested & was negative. Tonight she said she has the antibodies but not the HCV. She says her doctor told her that this means she must have been infected but her body fought it off. Is this possible???? SuZie I Next time I'm coming back as a cat __________________________________________________

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thanks d...me

Antibodies???

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I I just got a call from one of my old Friends from back in my doper days. She was the first one I called to tell to get checked when I found out about the HCV. She told me then that she'd gotten tested & was negative. Tonight she said she has the antibodies but not the HCV. She says her doctor told her that this means she must have been infected but her body fought it off. Is this possible????

SuZie

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Next time I'm coming back as a cat

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Yes it is possible Suzie to fight the hep c off.The specialist I had at Mount Siani in Toronto told me that 40% of people that get hep c will keep it but the other 60% fight it off.I am always in the percent that is bad.So more people clear this virus during the initial infection and the rest of us don't.Hope this helps.

Gail

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of suzieSent: December 17, 2005 8:38 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Antibodies???

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I I just got a call from one of my old Friends from back in my doper days. She was the first one I called to tell to get checked when I found out about the HCV. She told me then that she'd gotten tested & was negative. Tonight she said she has the antibodies but not the HCV. She says her doctor told her that this means she must have been infected but her body fought it off. Is this possible????

SuZie

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Next time I'm coming back as a cat

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Antibodies shows that a person has a disease, had a disease, for some dx's exposed to it without the disease but not infected by it or a active carrier. Many health care people just from working have been exposed enough to TB over time to test positive for TB but is Not a carrier to infect others, has active TB or TB at all. People receiving some immunizations also show positive antibodies for diseases without having the actual disease or being a carrier just like for other forms of Hep. HCV has no vaccine. A person showing positive for HCV antibodies did contract HCV. It shows a positive for HCV but does not indicate how active or in what stage of the disease. A person is considered HCV clear after trmt by labs but is still considered infectious to others and must still be very cautious of infecting others. A virus is very small, sub microscopic in size unseen by the naked eye and a very complex organism determined to

survive. It is now medically known and proven that HCV embeds deep within and throughout the body and tissues. I think and relate to HCV the same as for cancer cells and for people dx'ed with cancer. After surgery to remove the cancerous lesions or successful chemo/radiation/med treatments the medical possibility still remains for recurrence of the disease from only a very few or small amount of virus cells left behind, remains alive but may be dormant. The word "cure" is used differently and the meaning is different

within the medical profession for many diseases, types of cancers and for HCV. A pt. hears "cured" and many think that's it I'm cured 100% and it will never return. Never say never with complex medical diseases and with so many medical unknowns especially with HCV. The medical profession is Not an exact science. It deals with many unknowns, many variables and the factor that each pt. is an unique medical case all in itself. Dr's are not gods and also only human. We still don't know how the human body and all it's systems and organs function, depend on one another for our survival or how it operates. The brain and the body is still a great mystery which has not been totally discovered and solved yet by humans. We may have only scratched the surface of our being and our body's true potentials. We have come a long way in a very short time in unlocking many of the body's mysteries with leaps in technologies but many more and the most fundamental of all yet still to be discovered by man. Hang In There cause - No One, No Human Knows For Sure !!!!!!!!!!!!! Without definite proven answers there is always hope but I'm a realist and do accept what medical science has discovered, what is my prognosis at this time and all that medical science can and can not do yet. There Is Always Hope and Miracles Do Happen. You are talking to One. Damn I gave myself a brain cramp on this one. Move over RD it's snuggle time again. Love and Hugs. Deb

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dammit deb slow down lol. love ya so good to have yoy back dDeb <posttransplant@...> wrote: Antibodies shows that a person has a disease, had a disease, for some dx's exposed to it without the disease but not infected by it or a active carrier. Many health care people just from working have been exposed enough to TB over time to test positive for TB but is Not a carrier to infect others, has active TB or TB at all. People receiving some immunizations

also show positive antibodies for diseases without having the actual disease or being a carrier just like for other forms of Hep. HCV has no vaccine. A person showing positive for HCV antibodies did contract HCV. It shows a positive for HCV but does not indicate how active or in what stage of the disease. A person is considered HCV clear after trmt by labs but is still considered infectious to others and must still be very cautious of infecting others. A virus is very small, sub microscopic in size unseen by the naked eye and a very complex organism determined to survive. It is now medically known and proven that HCV embeds deep within and throughout the body and tissues. I think and relate to HCV the same as for cancer cells and for people dx'ed with cancer. After surgery to remove the cancerous lesions or successful chemo/radiation/med treatments the medical possibility still remains for recurrence of the disease from only a very few or small amount of virus cells left behind, remains alive but may be

dormant. The word "cure" is used differently and the meaning is different within the medical profession for many diseases, types of cancers and for HCV. A pt. hears "cured" and many think that's it I'm cured 100% and it will never return. Never say never with complex medical diseases and with so many medical unknowns especially with HCV. The medical profession is Not an

exact science. It deals with many unknowns, many variables and the factor that each pt. is an unique medical case all in itself. Dr's are not gods and also only human. We still don't know how the human body and all it's systems and organs function, depend on one another for our survival or how it operates. The brain and the body is still a great mystery which has not been totally discovered and solved yet by humans. We may have only scratched the surface of our being and our body's true potentials. We have come a long way in a very short time in unlocking many of the body's mysteries with leaps in technologies but many more and the most fundamental of all yet still to be discovered by man. Hang In There cause - No One, No Human Knows For Sure !!!!!!!!!!!!! Without definite proven answers there is always hope but I'm a realist and do accept what

medical science has discovered, what is my prognosis at this time and all that medical science can and can not do yet. There Is Always Hope and Miracles Do Happen. You are talking to One. Damn I gave myself a brain cramp on this one. Move over RD it's snuggle time again. Love and Hugs. Deb

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That was a mouthful and also very accurate..Good to have you back girl.

Merry Christmas to you and your family and all of the family on this site.

Gail

-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:Hepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of dannegrlSent: December 22, 2005 4:45 PMHepatitis CSupportGroupForDummies Subject: Re: Re: Antibodies???

dammit deb slow down lol. love ya so good to have yoy back

dDeb <posttransplant@...> wrote:

Antibodies shows that a person has a disease, had a disease, for some dx's exposed to it without the disease but not infected by it or a active carrier.

Many health care people just from working have been exposed enough to TB over time to test positive for TB but is Not a carrier to infect others, has active TB or TB at all.

People receiving some immunizations also show positive antibodies for diseases without having the actual disease or being a carrier just like for other forms of Hep.

HCV has no vaccine. A person showing positive for HCV antibodies did contract HCV.

It shows a positive for HCV but does not indicate how active or in what stage of the disease.

A person is considered HCV clear after trmt by labs but is still considered infectious to others and must still be very cautious of infecting others.

A virus is very small, sub microscopic in size unseen by the naked eye and a very complex organism determined to survive.

It is now medically known and proven that HCV embeds deep within and throughout the body and tissues.

I think and relate to HCV the same as for cancer cells and for people dx'ed with cancer. After surgery to remove the cancerous lesions or successful chemo/radiation/med treatments the medical possibility still remains for recurrence of the disease from only a very few or small amount of virus cells left behind, remains alive but may be dormant.

The word "cure" is used differently and the meaning is different within the medical profession for many diseases, types of cancers and for HCV.

A pt. hears "cured" and many think that's it I'm cured 100% and it will never return.

Never say never with complex medical diseases and with so many medical unknowns especially with HCV.

The medical profession is Not an exact science. It deals with many unknowns, many variables and the factor that each pt. is an unique medical case all in itself.

Dr's are not gods and also only human.

We still don't know how the human body and all it's systems and organs function, depend on one another for our survival or how it operates.

The brain and the body is still a great mystery which has not been totally discovered and solved yet by humans.

We may have only scratched the surface of our being and our body's true potentials.

We have come a long way in a very short time in unlocking many of the body's mysteries with leaps in technologies but many more and the most fundamental of all yet still to be discovered by man.

Hang In There cause - No One, No Human Knows For Sure !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Without definite proven answers there is always hope but I'm a realist and do accept what medical science has discovered, what is my prognosis at this time and all that medical science can and can not do yet.

There Is Always Hope and Miracles Do Happen.

You are talking to One.

Damn I gave myself a brain cramp on this one.

Move over RD it's snuggle time again.

Love and Hugs.

Deb

DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less

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Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: I was happy to learn that

Henry had no antibodies for Hep b in my quest to see if he was shot without my

knowledge. Tenpenny goes into how vaccine induced antibodies (many times in

over-production) floating around with no purpose eventually do latch onto tissue

resembling what they are looking for. This is called molecular mimickry. Dr.

Carley explains this in detail in her paper called Inoculations: Weapons of Mass

Dstruction. It's no wonder why children and adult autoimmune diseases are on the

rise....Anita

Tara Maue <orrin_reilly@...> wrote:

That's what I was thinking to, that since antibodies do not show you

immunity, then not having any will not show you anything. I was

thinking after watching Sherri Tenpenny's dvds that you actually don't

want a bunch of antibodies running around doing nothing in your body

on the hopes that some day you might be exposed or re-exposed, so if

the levels are low to none, then maybe after they have done their job,

the just gradually diminish.

Tara

> But then it's not really proof the body can't defend against it or

> hasn't had it just by checking titers. The true immunity is in the

> memory-T cells, as I recall.

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