Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 It is truly a blessing to not do all the cleaning, bed changing ect isn't it. Do you feel the environment was you? That was my experience. Yes you are correct DC3 is MMS1 just weaker and more expensive. I am glad you are finding some peace and normalcy to your life again. Marie > > I know there has been a lot of debate about using the above substances. > I would like to relay my experience. I first encountered bird mites about 18 mos ago. I currently have no problems with crawling or biting. Although I still get bites on my feet if I spend a lot of time in the basement. I still do some of the protocol, but haven't sprayed or done any special cleaning in a long time. Right now I am trying to treat the fungus/yeast that attracted them to me in the first place. I picked up a book entitled Yeast Control in Seven Days. Yesterday was the 7th day. I think it has helped a lot, although not a complete cure since I wasn't able to do everything recommended. I plan to try it again in a couple of weeks, but next time following the program and meals more closely. The first 4 days you are told to use Dioxychlor DC3 (my understanding is that it is the same as MMS) It is recommended that you take it upon waking and right before you go to bed. It says you may have stomach problems if taken with food. The author recommends taking the drops on an empty stomach with 1oz of water (or aloe vera juice) Day 1 5 drops then 10, Day 2 13 then 18, Days 3 & 4 20 drops am & pm. I was fine the first day, day 2 shortly after lunch I had nausea, stomach cramps and diarrhea, luckily I was able to take a nap and felt fine later. It is recommended that you decrease the dosage to personal tolerance, but not discontinue use. I was never able to take more than the 13 drops due to the herxheimer reaction caused by die off of candida cells. (maybe next time I can work up to the 20 drops) Acidophilus and/or enemas are recommended to prevent the herx reaction. There is an intensive program that works up to 40 drops per dose. The book states to use high doses only under supervision and for no longer that 4 days at a time. > I don't see anything wrong with using MMS/DC3, but I would caution using it much past the 4 days without doing a colonic, colema or several high enemas to flush the dead Candida cells from your intestines. > in health, > Laurel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 For myself the MMS1 was all the flush needed, the first clean out if you will was the pooh of a lifetime, I think there was chewing gum in there from my elementary school years:) Just kidding. I did use the MMS1 for a enema with great results, do this according to the writings and use God given sense. I continue on maintenance doses daily with the MMS1 with no visible side effects. I am going to contact the Lutheran church and see if the church would be interested in using my blood work for their studies. If you have not taken the time to read the science behind sodium chlorite the Lutherans have researched please do on my post malaria initiative. I am very excited about this new discovery and beleive it could eradicate malaria, what a true blessing and God send. Marie http://www.malariainitiative.com/250/malaria-treatment-science/discovery/ http://www.malariainitiative.com/246/malaria-treatment-science/abstract/ > > > > I know there has been a lot of debate about using the above substances. > > I would like to relay my experience. I first encountered bird mites about 18 mos ago. I currently have no problems with crawling or biting. Although I still get bites on my feet if I spend a lot of time in the basement. I still do some of the protocol, but haven't sprayed or done any special cleaning in a long time. Right now I am trying to treat the fungus/yeast that attracted them to me in the first place. I picked up a book entitled Yeast Control in Seven Days. Yesterday was the 7th day. I think it has helped a lot, although not a complete cure since I wasn't able to do everything recommended. I plan to try it again in a couple of weeks, but next time following the program and meals more closely. The first 4 days you are told to use Dioxychlor DC3 (my understanding is that it is the same as MMS) It is recommended that you take it upon waking and right before you go to bed. It says you may have stomach problems if taken with food. The author recommends taking the drops on an empty stomach with 1oz of water (or aloe vera juice) Day 1 5 drops then 10, Day 2 13 then 18, Days 3 & 4 20 drops am & pm. I was fine the first day, day 2 shortly after lunch I had nausea, stomach cramps and diarrhea, luckily I was able to take a nap and felt fine later. It is recommended that you decrease the dosage to personal tolerance, but not discontinue use. I was never able to take more than the 13 drops due to the herxheimer reaction caused by die off of candida cells. (maybe next time I can work up to the 20 drops) Acidophilus and/or enemas are recommended to prevent the herx reaction. There is an intensive program that works up to 40 drops per dose. The book states to use high doses only under supervision and for no longer that 4 days at a time. > > I don't see anything wrong with using MMS/DC3, but I would caution using it much past the 4 days without doing a colonic, colema or several high enemas to flush the dead Candida cells from your intestines. > > in health, > > Laurel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 The Malaria Initiative - Hannah's Story from Lutheran Church Charities on Vimeo. http://www.lutheranchurchcharities.org/index.php?option=com_content & view=article\ & id=424 > > > > > > I know there has been a lot of debate about using the above substances. > > > I would like to relay my experience. I first encountered bird mites about 18 mos ago. I currently have no problems with crawling or biting. Although I still get bites on my feet if I spend a lot of time in the basement. I still do some of the protocol, but haven't sprayed or done any special cleaning in a long time. Right now I am trying to treat the fungus/yeast that attracted them to me in the first place. I picked up a book entitled Yeast Control in Seven Days. Yesterday was the 7th day. I think it has helped a lot, although not a complete cure since I wasn't able to do everything recommended. I plan to try it again in a couple of weeks, but next time following the program and meals more closely. The first 4 days you are told to use Dioxychlor DC3 (my understanding is that it is the same as MMS) It is recommended that you take it upon waking and right before you go to bed. It says you may have stomach problems if taken with food. The author recommends taking the drops on an empty stomach with 1oz of water (or aloe vera juice) Day 1 5 drops then 10, Day 2 13 then 18, Days 3 & 4 20 drops am & pm. I was fine the first day, day 2 shortly after lunch I had nausea, stomach cramps and diarrhea, luckily I was able to take a nap and felt fine later. It is recommended that you decrease the dosage to personal tolerance, but not discontinue use. I was never able to take more than the 13 drops due to the herxheimer reaction caused by die off of candida cells. (maybe next time I can work up to the 20 drops) Acidophilus and/or enemas are recommended to prevent the herx reaction. There is an intensive program that works up to 40 drops per dose. The book states to use high doses only under supervision and for no longer that 4 days at a time. > > > I don't see anything wrong with using MMS/DC3, but I would caution using it much past the 4 days without doing a colonic, colema or several high enemas to flush the dead Candida cells from your intestines. > > > in health, > > > Laurel > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Laurel, I'm doing this (MMS)as gently as possible, taking the dosage that feels right for me (based on nausea-type reactions). And I've found salt water flushes to help as well (fits with what you just wrote about taking colonics to flush out the dead fungus from the system). D. > > I know there has been a lot of debate about using the above substances. > I would like to relay my experience. I first encountered bird mites about 18 mos ago. I currently have no problems with crawling or biting. Although I still get bites on my feet if I spend a lot of time in the basement. I still do some of the protocol, but haven't sprayed or done any special cleaning in a long time. Right now I am trying to treat the fungus/yeast that attracted them to me in the first place. I picked up a book entitled Yeast Control in Seven Days. Yesterday was the 7th day. I think it has helped a lot, although not a complete cure since I wasn't able to do everything recommended. I plan to try it again in a couple of weeks, but next time following the program and meals more closely. The first 4 days you are told to use Dioxychlor DC3 (my understanding is that it is the same as MMS) It is recommended that you take it upon waking and right before you go to bed. It says you may have stomach problems if taken with food. The author recommends taking the drops on an empty stomach with 1oz of water (or aloe vera juice) Day 1 5 drops then 10, Day 2 13 then 18, Days 3 & 4 20 drops am & pm. I was fine the first day, day 2 shortly after lunch I had nausea, stomach cramps and diarrhea, luckily I was able to take a nap and felt fine later. It is recommended that you decrease the dosage to personal tolerance, but not discontinue use. I was never able to take more than the 13 drops due to the herxheimer reaction caused by die off of candida cells. (maybe next time I can work up to the 20 drops) Acidophilus and/or enemas are recommended to prevent the herx reaction. There is an intensive program that works up to 40 drops per dose. The book states to use high doses only under supervision and for no longer that 4 days at a time. > I don't see anything wrong with using MMS/DC3, but I would caution using it much past the 4 days without doing a colonic, colema or several high enemas to flush the dead Candida cells from your intestines. > in health, > Laurel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Marie, Not sure what you mean by " Do you feel the environment was you? I feel like there were times when they were living off of me which made my environment worse. But I also now believe they were coming in my windows at night, which made the situation much worse. Once I figured this out and only opened the windows during the day the situation got much better. I am hoping I will be able to open them this spring. We had a long cold spell this past winter and it has been 18mo. since a baby bird died and left me with this mess hopefully my yard will be mite free. I noticed there were some differences with the DC3 and MMS. What I used said not to have food in the stomach with ingestion, the opposite for MMS. Also, my instructions indicated taking Vit. C would help with the effectiveness, opposite for MMS. Lastly, I was never told to use citric acid to activate it. I was hoping my stomach acid would be the activator since I believe my problem is intestinal only. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Interesting article about the Lutherans, I hadn't read that before. Laurel > > > > I know there has been a lot of debate about using the above substances. > > I would like to relay my experience. I first encountered bird mites about 18 mos ago. I currently have no problems with crawling or biting. Although I still get bites on my feet if I spend a lot of time in the basement. I still do some of the protocol, but haven't sprayed or done any special cleaning in a long time. Right now I am trying to treat the fungus/yeast that attracted them to me in the first place. I picked up a book entitled Yeast Control in Seven Days. Yesterday was the 7th day. I think it has helped a lot, although not a complete cure since I wasn't able to do everything recommended. I plan to try it again in a couple of weeks, but next time following the program and meals more closely. The first 4 days you are told to use Dioxychlor DC3 (my understanding is that it is the same as MMS) It is recommended that you take it upon waking and right before you go to bed. It says you may have stomach problems if taken with food. The author recommends taking the drops on an empty stomach with 1oz of water (or aloe vera juice) Day 1 5 drops then 10, Day 2 13 then 18, Days 3 & 4 20 drops am & pm. I was fine the first day, day 2 shortly after lunch I had nausea, stomach cramps and diarrhea, luckily I was able to take a nap and felt fine later. It is recommended that you decrease the dosage to personal tolerance, but not discontinue use. I was never able to take more than the 13 drops due to the herxheimer reaction caused by die off of candida cells. (maybe next time I can work up to the 20 drops) Acidophilus and/or enemas are recommended to prevent the herx reaction. There is an intensive program that works up to 40 drops per dose. The book states to use high doses only under supervision and for no longer that 4 days at a time. > > I don't see anything wrong with using MMS/DC3, but I would caution using it much past the 4 days without doing a colonic, colema or several high enemas to flush the dead Candida cells from your intestines. > > in health, > > Laurel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Laurel God Bless the baby birds. Amazing how this started for you and I with birds, perhaps others. Dioxychlor DC3 is something I had come across however not researched, give me some time. I have understood from what little reading on it I have done that it has trace minerals, and in most instances NaCl, sodium chloride (NaCl) is the product commonly referred to as 'salt'. However, sea salt is a far more complex salt than NaCl. The reasoning for the Vit C may be absorption of some minerals for instance MSM absorbs more readily with Vit C. If it helps keep it up I see little harm if any. There is more evidence now adding MSM to this regiment is very important. Yes I was asking what you answered about you being the main host, and if you will your home the nest. Without a host these things cannot live even with a nest is my theory. If the yard is not shared by others apartment building ect. Spread bifen granules early this spring before the first thaw. Also dust around your windows with delta dust DE ect with duster get in cracks and crevices also. Like you I am ready for the big thaw even the south has been cold, but fear the insects. I have a arsenal, today I am spreading the bifen granules around the foundation and dusting the siding voids. Hoping this year will be peaceful. Chasing all the birds away to, that is a job on the farm.:)Marie http://morgellonspgpr.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/msm-more-information/ > > > > > > I know there has been a lot of debate about using the above substances. > > > I would like to relay my experience. I first encountered bird mites about 18 mos ago. I currently have no problems with crawling or biting. Although I still get bites on my feet if I spend a lot of time in the basement. I still do some of the protocol, but haven't sprayed or done any special cleaning in a long time. Right now I am trying to treat the fungus/yeast that attracted them to me in the first place. I picked up a book entitled Yeast Control in Seven Days. Yesterday was the 7th day. I think it has helped a lot, although not a complete cure since I wasn't able to do everything recommended. I plan to try it again in a couple of weeks, but next time following the program and meals more closely. The first 4 days you are told to use Dioxychlor DC3 (my understanding is that it is the same as MMS) It is recommended that you take it upon waking and right before you go to bed. It says you may have stomach problems if taken with food. The author recommends taking the drops on an empty stomach with 1oz of water (or aloe vera juice) Day 1 5 drops then 10, Day 2 13 then 18, Days 3 & 4 20 drops am & pm. I was fine the first day, day 2 shortly after lunch I had nausea, stomach cramps and diarrhea, luckily I was able to take a nap and felt fine later. It is recommended that you decrease the dosage to personal tolerance, but not discontinue use. I was never able to take more than the 13 drops due to the herxheimer reaction caused by die off of candida cells. (maybe next time I can work up to the 20 drops) Acidophilus and/or enemas are recommended to prevent the herx reaction. There is an intensive program that works up to 40 drops per dose. The book states to use high doses only under supervision and for no longer that 4 days at a time. > > > I don't see anything wrong with using MMS/DC3, but I would caution using it much past the 4 days without doing a colonic, colema or several high enemas to flush the dead Candida cells from your intestines. > > > in health, > > > Laurel > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Best I can read and study the DC3 is more minerals than sodium chlorite, although sodium chlorite activated chlorine dioxide is part of the mineral base. EACH FLUID OUNCE CONTAINS: 2% NaCl, with combined oxygen, in a base of distilled water Natrum Muritate. Natrum Muritate is a tissue cell salt. I would recommend the bio-plasma and not just the Natrum Muritate. http://www.healthegoods.com/articles/natrum-muriaticum-cell-salt-9 http://www.elixirs.com/products/cell_salts.cfm http://numisayseverything.com/blog/miracle/mms1/ Excerpts from the research paper " War Against Microbes " written by the Bradford Research Institute: The following is a description of the characterization and mechanism of action of Dioxychlor, researched and developed by American Biologics, as relates to its antiviral, antibacterial, antimycoplasmal and antifungal activities. Dioxychlor has been in clinical use for over fifteen years with tens of thousands of infusions at the American Biologics Intergrative Hospital and Medical Center as well as other clinics and hospitals throughout the world. " To understand fully the action of Dioxychlor on target organisms, it is necessary to describe in detail the chemical structure of this oxidant as well as the biochemical structure of substances found in these target organisms with which Dioxychlor interacts. These targets include viruses (the nucleic acides, RNA, DNA), bacteria and fungi. " The formula known as Dioxychlor is the same active ingredient derived from activated MMS, only weaker (chlorine dioxide). > > > > > > I know there has been a lot of debate about using the above substances. > > > I would like to relay my experience. I first encountered bird mites about 18 mos ago. I currently have no problems with crawling or biting. Although I still get bites on my feet if I spend a lot of time in the basement. I still do some of the protocol, but haven't sprayed or done any special cleaning in a long time. Right now I am trying to treat the fungus/yeast that attracted them to me in the first place. I picked up a book entitled Yeast Control in Seven Days. Yesterday was the 7th day. I think it has helped a lot, although not a complete cure since I wasn't able to do everything recommended. I plan to try it again in a couple of weeks, but next time following the program and meals more closely. The first 4 days you are told to use Dioxychlor DC3 (my understanding is that it is the same as MMS) It is recommended that you take it upon waking and right before you go to bed. It says you may have stomach problems if taken with food. The author recommends taking the drops on an empty stomach with 1oz of water (or aloe vera juice) Day 1 5 drops then 10, Day 2 13 then 18, Days 3 & 4 20 drops am & pm. I was fine the first day, day 2 shortly after lunch I had nausea, stomach cramps and diarrhea, luckily I was able to take a nap and felt fine later. It is recommended that you decrease the dosage to personal tolerance, but not discontinue use. I was never able to take more than the 13 drops due to the herxheimer reaction caused by die off of candida cells. (maybe next time I can work up to the 20 drops) Acidophilus and/or enemas are recommended to prevent the herx reaction. There is an intensive program that works up to 40 drops per dose. The book states to use high doses only under supervision and for no longer that 4 days at a time. > > > I don't see anything wrong with using MMS/DC3, but I would caution using it much past the 4 days without doing a colonic, colema or several high enemas to flush the dead Candida cells from your intestines. > > > in health, > > > Laurel > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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