Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Have you tried this Rosemary? I'm interested but have a problem with oil. I can do the liver cleanse requiring three quarters of a cup of virgin olive oil and grapefruit juice, yet I have a problem keeping oil in my mouth. I use coconut oil daily but I eat it cold and thus, solid, so I can swallow it without gagging. I think it may be a " hangover " from being forced to take cod liver oil as a child.Maracuja From: rosemarypersi <rosemarypersi@...> Subject: Oil Pulling Therapy Vaccinations Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 1:34 AM Different Diseases Cured By Oil Pulling Dr. (med.) Karach said the OP heals totally " head-aches, bronchitis, tooth pain, thrombosis, eczema, ulcers and diseases of stomach, intestines, heart, blood, kidney, liver, lungs and women's diseases. It heals diseases of nerves, paralysis, and encephalitis. It prevents the growth of malignant tumors, cuts and heals them. Chronic sleeplessness is cured. " It consists of swishing cold-pressed oil in the mouth( Sunflower or Seasme, Pl. note you don't need to go for organic oils only, A normal refined sunflower oil bought from any supermarket proven to be effective in many people). The healing process is accomplished by the human organism on its own. In this way it is possible to heal cells, tissue and all organs simultaneously; the body itself gets rid of toxic waste without disturbing the healthy microflora. " " The method In the morning before breakfast on an empty stomach you take one tablespoon in the mouth but do not swallow it. Move Oil Slowly in the mouth as rinsing or swishing and Dr Karach puts it as ' sip, suck and pull through the teeth' for fifteen to twenty minutes. This process makes oil thoroughly mixed with saliva. Swishing activates the enzymes and the enzymes draw toxins out of the blood. The oil must not be swallowed, for it has become toxic. As the process continues, the oil gets thinner and white. If the oil is still yellow, it has not been pulled long enough.It is then spit from the mouth , the oral cavity must be thoroughly rinsed and mouth must be washed thoroughly. Just use normal tap water and good old fingers to clean " " By means of this treatment {Oil } it is invariably the result that diseases like migraine headaches, bronchitis, diseased teeth, arterio thrombosis, chronic blood disorders such as leukemia, arthritis and related illnesses, neuro physiological paralysis, eczema, gastro enteritis, peritonitis, heart disease, kidney disease, meningitis, and women's hormonal disorders are completely eliminated from the organism. The benefit of Dr. Karach's method is that the oil therapy heals the whole body in perpetuity. In terminal diseases such as cancer, Aids and chronic infections this treatment method has been shown to successfully replace all others. Dr. Karach has successfully healed a chronic leukemia patient with 15 years of harsh treatment methods behind him. Acute arthritis in 1 patient who was totally bedridden was removed from his body in 3 days with no inflammation apparent. " Further Information: http://www.oilpulli ng.com/ 0639 Efficacy of Oil Pulling on Oral Health Status A. SHARATH, J. JEEVARATHAN, M.S. MUTHU, V. RATHNAPRABHU, E. PAMELA, R. RAGHURAMAN, and G.S. CHAMUNDESWARI, Meenakshi Ammal Dental College & Hospital, Chennai, India Objectives: The aim of the study was to assess the efficacy of an Indian folk remedy, oil pulling therapy using Sesame oil (Idhayam oil) on oral health status Methods: Randomized controlled triple blind clinical trials were done to evaluate the effect of Oil pulling therapy on 1. Dental caries - Streptococcus mutans count in plaque and saliva 2. Plaque induced gingivitis The study and the control group included 10 subjects each. The subjects belonging to the study group were made to sip, suck and pull 10ml of sesame oil between their teeth for 10 minutes in the morning before brushing for 2 weeks. The control group subjects swished 10ml of 0.2% chlorhexidine mouthwash 30 minutes before tooth brushing for 2 weeks. Streptococcus mutans count was evaluated using the Dentocult SM Strip Mutans test. The assessment was repeated after 24 hours, 48 hours, 1 week and 2 weeks. Plaque induced gingivitis was assessed using both clinical (plaque and modified gingival indices) and microbial criteria (colony count of microorganisms) . This assessment was repeated after 10 days Results: Study 1 1. Significant reduction in S.mutans count in oil group after 1 and 2 weeks (p = 0.01; 0.008 respectively) and in chlorhexidine group in all time periods (p = 0.01; 0.04; 0.005; 0.005) 2. Significant difference in S.mutans count between the two groups after 1 and 2 weeks (p = 0.02; 0.002 respectively) Study 2 1. Significant reduction in plaque and modified gingival index scores in both study and control group (p = 0 in both groups) 2. Reduction in colony count of microorganisms in plaque sample from both groups. Conclusion: Oil pulling therapy, 5 to 6 times cost effective than chlorhexidine, can be used as an effective preventive home therapy in maintaining and improving oral health especially in developing countries like India. http://iadr. confex.com/ iadr/2008Toronto /techprogram/ abstract_ 105440.ht m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 I tried it today, it IS hard to keep in the mouth without gagging the first time, but then tried it while showering, and it took my mind off of it, lol Then got rid of it in the toilet. Try not to concentrate on it too much. I used flaxseed oil, I heard that flaxseed oil and cottage cheese cures most things including cancer, but can't get the mixture down, and keep it down, lol SO this is much better if don't have to swallow, lol Western NY Oil Pulling Therapy Vaccinations Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 1:34 AM Different Diseases Cured By Oil Pulling Dr. (med.) Karach said the OP heals totally " head-aches, bronchitis, tooth pain, thrombosis, eczema, ulcers and diseases of stomach, intestines, heart, blood, kidney, liver, lungs and women's diseases. It heals diseases of nerves, paralysis, and encephalitis. It prevents the growth of malignant tumors, cuts and heals them. Chronic sleeplessness is cured. " It consists of swishing cold-pressed oil in the mouth( Sunflower or Seasme, Pl. note you don't need to go for organic oils only, A normal refined sunflower oil bought from any supermarket proven to be effective in many people). The healing process is accomplished by the human organism on its own. In this way it is possible to heal cells, tissue and all organs simultaneously; the body itself gets rid of toxic waste without disturbing the healthy microflora. " " The method In the morning before breakfast on an empty stomach you take one tablespoon in the mouth but do not swallow it. Move Oil Slowly in the mouth as rinsing or swishing and Dr Karach puts it as ' sip, suck and pull through the teeth' for fifteen to twenty minutes. This process makes oil thoroughly mixed with saliva. Swishing activates the enzymes and the enzymes draw toxins out of the blood. The oil must not be swallowed, for it has become toxic. As the process continues, the oil gets thinner and white. If the oil is still yellow, it has not been pulled long enough.It is then spit from the mouth , the oral cavity must be thoroughly rinsed and mouth must be washed thoroughly. Just use normal tap water and good old fingers to clean " " By means of this treatment {Oil } it is invariably the result that diseases like migraine headaches, bronchitis, diseased teeth, arterio thrombosis, chronic blood disorders such as leukemia, arthritis and related illnesses, neuro physiological paralysis, eczema, gastro enteritis, peritonitis, heart disease, kidney disease, meningitis, and women's hormonal disorders are completely eliminated from the organism. The benefit of Dr. Karach's method is that the oil therapy heals the whole body in perpetuity. In terminal diseases such as cancer, Aids and chronic infections this treatment method has been shown to successfully replace all others. Dr. Karach has successfully healed a chronic leukemia patient with 15 years of harsh treatment methods behind him. Acute arthritis in 1 patient who was totally bedridden was removed from his body in 3 days with no inflammation apparent. " Further Information: http://www.oilpulli ng.com/ 0639 Efficacy of Oil Pulling on Oral Health Status A. SHARATH, J. JEEVARATHAN, M.S. MUTHU, V. RATHNAPRABHU, E. PAMELA, R. RAGHURAMAN, and G.S. CHAMUNDESWARI, Meenakshi Ammal Dental College & Hospital, Chennai, India Objectives: The aim of the study was to assess the efficacy of an Indian folk remedy, oil pulling therapy using Sesame oil (Idhayam oil) on oral health status Methods: Randomized controlled triple blind clinical trials were done to evaluate the effect of Oil pulling therapy on 1. Dental caries - Streptococcus mutans count in plaque and saliva 2. Plaque induced gingivitis The study and the control group included 10 subjects each. The subjects belonging to the study group were made to sip, suck and pull 10ml of sesame oil between their teeth for 10 minutes in the morning before brushing for 2 weeks. The control group subjects swished 10ml of 0.2% chlorhexidine mouthwash 30 minutes before tooth brushing for 2 weeks. Streptococcus mutans count was evaluated using the Dentocult SM Strip Mutans test. The assessment was repeated after 24 hours, 48 hours, 1 week and 2 weeks. Plaque induced gingivitis was assessed using both clinical (plaque and modified gingival indices) and microbial criteria (colony count of microorganisms) . This assessment was repeated after 10 days Results: Study 1 1. Significant reduction in S.mutans count in oil group after 1 and 2 weeks (p = 0.01; 0.008 respectively) and in chlorhexidine group in all time periods (p = 0.01; 0.04; 0.005; 0.005) 2. Significant difference in S.mutans count between the two groups after 1 and 2 weeks (p = 0.02; 0.002 respectively) Study 2 1. Significant reduction in plaque and modified gingival index scores in both study and control group (p = 0 in both groups) 2. Reduction in colony count of microorganisms in plaque sample from both groups. Conclusion: Oil pulling therapy, 5 to 6 times cost effective than chlorhexidine, can be used as an effective preventive home therapy in maintaining and improving oral health especially in developing countries like India. http://iadr. confex.com/ iadr/2008Toronto /techprogram/ abstract_ 105440.ht m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hi , I used to oil pull. They said some oils won't work, you need to experiment. I heard that sesame is one of the best oils to use. Maybe, it won't gag you! LOL I also remember reading that you should concentrate on the oil pulling and not get distracted. I quit watching tv while doing it, it seemed to work better. I did notice more energy. I didn't keep it up. Maybe, I should have If you go to curezone.com and look up oil pulling you'll find many that have tried it. :0) On Nov 12, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Petric wrote: > I tried it today, it IS hard to keep in the mouth without gagging > the first time, but then tried it while showering, and it took my > mind off of it, lol Then got rid of it in the toilet. Try not to > concentrate on it too much. I used flaxseed oil, I heard that > flaxseed oil and cottage cheese cures most things including cancer, > but can't get the mixture down, and keep it down, lol SO this is > much better if don't have to swallow, lol > > > Western NY > > Oil Pulling Therapy > Vaccinations > Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 1:34 AM > > Different Diseases Cured By Oil Pulling > > Dr. (med.) Karach said the OP heals totally " head-aches, bronchitis, > > tooth pain, thrombosis, eczema, ulcers and diseases of stomach, > > intestines, heart, blood, kidney, liver, lungs and women's diseases. > > It heals diseases of nerves, paralysis, and encephalitis. It prevents > > the growth of malignant tumors, cuts and heals them. Chronic > > sleeplessness is cured. > > " It consists of swishing cold-pressed oil in the mouth( Sunflower or > > Seasme, Pl. note you don't need to go for organic oils only, A normal > > refined sunflower oil bought from any supermarket proven to be > > effective in many people). The healing process is accomplished by the > > human organism on its own. In this way it is possible to heal cells, > > tissue and all organs simultaneously; the body itself gets rid of > > toxic waste without disturbing the healthy microflora. " > > " The method > > In the morning before breakfast on an empty stomach you take one > > tablespoon in the mouth but do not swallow it. Move Oil Slowly in the > > mouth as rinsing or swishing and Dr Karach puts it as ' sip, suck and > > pull through the teeth' for fifteen to twenty minutes. This process > > makes oil thoroughly mixed with saliva. Swishing activates the > > enzymes and the enzymes draw toxins out of the blood. The oil must > > not be swallowed, for it has become toxic. As the process continues, > > the oil gets thinner and white. If the oil is still yellow, it has > > not been pulled long enough.It is then spit from the mouth , the oral > > cavity must be thoroughly rinsed and mouth must be washed thoroughly. > > Just use normal tap water and good old fingers to clean " > > " By means of this treatment {Oil } it is invariably the result that > > diseases like migraine headaches, bronchitis, diseased teeth, arterio > > thrombosis, chronic blood disorders such as leukemia, arthritis and > > related illnesses, neuro physiological paralysis, eczema, gastro > > enteritis, peritonitis, heart disease, kidney disease, meningitis, > > and women's hormonal disorders are completely eliminated from the > > organism. The benefit of Dr. Karach's method is that the oil therapy > > heals the whole body in perpetuity. In terminal diseases such as > > cancer, Aids and chronic infections this treatment method has been > > shown to successfully replace all others. Dr. Karach has successfully > > healed a chronic leukemia patient with 15 years of harsh treatment > > methods behind him. Acute arthritis in 1 patient who was totally > > bedridden was removed from his body in 3 days with no inflammation > > apparent. " > > Further Information: http://www.oilpulli ng.com/ > > 0639 Efficacy of Oil Pulling on Oral Health Status > > A. SHARATH, J. JEEVARATHAN, M.S. MUTHU, V. RATHNAPRABHU, E. PAMELA, > > R. RAGHURAMAN, and G.S. CHAMUNDESWARI, Meenakshi Ammal Dental College > > & Hospital, Chennai, India > > Objectives: The aim of the study was to assess the efficacy of an > > Indian folk remedy, oil pulling therapy using Sesame oil (Idhayam > > oil) on oral health status > > Methods: Randomized controlled triple blind clinical trials were done > > to evaluate the effect of Oil pulling therapy on > > 1. Dental caries - Streptococcus mutans count in plaque and saliva > > 2. Plaque induced gingivitis > > The study and the control group included 10 subjects each. The > > subjects belonging to the study group were made to sip, suck and pull > > 10ml of sesame oil between their teeth for 10 minutes in the morning > > before brushing for 2 weeks. The control group subjects swished 10ml > > of 0.2% chlorhexidine mouthwash 30 minutes before tooth brushing for > > 2 weeks. Streptococcus mutans count was evaluated using the Dentocult > > SM Strip Mutans test. The assessment was repeated after 24 hours, 48 > > hours, 1 week and 2 weeks. Plaque induced gingivitis was assessed > > using both clinical (plaque and modified gingival indices) and > > microbial criteria (colony count of microorganisms) . This assessment > > was repeated after 10 days > > Results: > > Study 1 > > 1. Significant reduction in S.mutans count in oil group after 1 and 2 > > weeks (p = 0.01; 0.008 respectively) and in chlorhexidine group in > > all time periods (p = 0.01; 0.04; 0.005; 0.005) > > 2. Significant difference in S.mutans count between the two groups > > after 1 and 2 weeks (p = 0.02; 0.002 respectively) > > Study 2 > > 1. Significant reduction in plaque and modified gingival index scores > > in both study and control group (p = 0 in both groups) > > 2. Reduction in colony count of microorganisms in plaque sample > > from both groups. > > Conclusion: Oil pulling therapy, 5 to 6 times cost effective than > > chlorhexidine, can be used as an effective preventive home therapy in > > maintaining and improving oral health especially in developing > > countries like India. > > http://iadr. confex.com/ iadr/2008Toronto /techprogram/ abstract_ > 105440.ht > > m > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 > > Have you tried this Rosemary? I'm interested but have a problem with oil. I can do the liver cleanse requiring three quarters of a cup of virgin olive oil and grapefruit juice, yet I have a problem keeping oil in my mouth. I use coconut oil daily but I eat it cold and thus, solid, so I can swallow it without gagging. I think it may be a " hangover " from being forced to take cod liver oil as a child.Maracuja Hi Maracuja & , Yes I have tried doing the 'oil pulling' in the shower as does probably is the easiest way to do it. I like the idea of using the oils as antibacterials. Maracuja,Have you tried using sunflower oil?since that has the least taste out of the oils. If not,perhaps the coconut oil would work for you, is coconut oil also antibacterial? Both my son & I suffer from gingivitis, inflammed bleeding gums, as my son is disabled therefore using the oil is a much safer option rather than mouthwashes.There must be something homeopathic for gingivtis that perhaps could be used as a paste to rub into inflamed gums ? Does anyone have any suggestions ? I never realised how important oral health is until I started to research it, here are some interesting studies... ... Oral health is very important,your oral health is connected to many other health conditions beyond your mouth. There have been quite a few interesting studies which have used oral health as a predictor of heart disease risk. http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/news/20040218/oral-health-score- predict-heart-risks Oral Health Score May Reveal Heart Risks New Oral Health Score May Predict Heart Disease Risk Your smile may speak volumes about your heart. New research shows that poor scores in five different areas of oral health may serve as a red flag for heart disease risk. A small study shows that poor oral health was a stronger predictor of heart disease than other commonly used risk factors, such as low HDL " good " cholesterol, high levels of a clotting factor called fibrinogen, and high triglycerides (a type of fat). Researchers say if future studies confirm these results, a dental exam may help identify people at risk for heart attack or stroke who do not yet have symptoms of heart disease. Oral Diseases Top the List In the study, which appears in the current issue of Circulation: Journal of the American Heart Association, researchers used five types of oral diseases to create a general rating of oral health, called the asymptomatic dental score (ADS). " Oral infections are thought to produce inflammation that might be associated with coronary heart disease, so we examined all oral pathologies that might generate inflammation, " says researcher Sok-Ja Janket, DMD, MPH, assistant professor at Boston University School of Dental Medicine, in a news release. The diseases include: Pericoronitis -- an infection around the third molar Gingivitis -- gum inflammation Root remnants -- when teeth are decayed to the point that only the tip of the root remains Missing teeth Cavities Researchers used a mathematical model to determine the strength of each disease's association with heart disease in 256 Finnish adults with heart disease and a group of 250 similar adults without heart disease. They then weighted each disease's contribution and came up with the ADS. Of the five diseases, the strongest predictor of heart disease was pericoronitis, followed by root remnants, gingivitis, cavities, and missing teeth. When researchers compared the ADS with other known indicators of heart disease risk, they found the oral health score was a stronger predictor of risk than several well-studied factors, including some types of inflammatory markers for heart disease and cholesterol levels. Oral health: A window to your overall health Gum disease can let bacteria enter your bloodstream and wreak havoc elsewhere in your body. Or sometimes, signs of a disease may first show up in your mouth. While the eyes may be the window to the soul, your mouth is a window to your body's health. The state of your oral health can offer lots of clues about your overall health. Oral health and overall health are more connected than you might realize. Your oral health is connected to many other health conditions beyond your mouth. Sometimes the first sign of a disease shows up in your mouth. In other cases, infections in your mouth, such as gum disease, can cause problems in other areas of your body. Learn more about this intimate connection between oral health and overall health. The connection between oral health and overall health Your mouth is normally teeming with bacteria. Usually you can keep these bacteria under control with good oral health care, such as daily brushing and flossing. Saliva is also a key defense against bacteria and viruses. It contains enzymes that destroy bacteria in different ways. But harmful bacteria can sometimes grow out of control and lead to periodontitis, a serious gum infection. When your gums are healthy, bacteria in your mouth usually don't enter your bloodstream. However, gum disease may provide bacteria a port of entry into your bloodstream. Sometimes invasive dental treatments can also allow bacteria to enter your bloodstream. And medications or treatments that reduce saliva flow or disrupt the normal balance of bacteria in your mouth may also lead to oral changes, making it easier for bacteria to enter your bloodstream. Some researchers believe that these bacteria and inflammation from your mouth are linked to other health problems in the rest of your body. MORE ON THIS TOPIC HIV/AIDS Type 1 diabetes Oral health and other health conditions Here's a look at some of the diseases and conditions that may be linked to oral health: Cardiovascular disease. Research shows that several types of cardiovascular disease may be linked to oral health. These include heart disease, clogged arteries, stroke and bacterial endocarditis. Some researchers believe that bacteria from gum disease can enter your bloodstream and travel through your arteries to your heart, affecting your cardiovascular system. Although periodontal disease seems to be associated with heart disease, more studies are needed before the link can be confirmed with certainty. Pregnancy and birth. Gum disease has been linked to premature birth. Some research has shown that disease-causing organisms in a pregnant woman's mouth can wind up in the placenta or amniotic fluid, possibly causing premature birth. Unfortunately, treating periodontal disease during pregnancy may be too late, because the infection may have already spread in the woman's body. This is why it's vital to maintain excellent oral health before you get pregnant. Diabetes. Diabetes increases your risk of gum disease, cavities, tooth loss, dry mouth, and a variety of oral infections. Conversely, poor oral health can make your diabetes more difficult to control. Infections may cause your blood sugar to rise and require more insulin to keep it under control. HIV/AIDS. In some cases, one of the first signs of AIDS may appear in your mouth, with severe gum infection. You may also develop persistent white spots or unusual lesions on your tongue or in your mouth. Osteoporosis. The first stages of bone loss may show up in your teeth. Your dentist may be able to spot this on routine dental X- rays. If bone loss worsens from year to year, your dentist can suggest that you discuss the issue with your other health care providers. Other conditions. Many other conditions may make their presence known in your mouth before you know anything's wrong. These may include Sjogren's syndrome, certain cancers, eating disorders, syphilis, gonorrhea and substance abuse. MORE ON THIS TOPIC Oral thrush What you can do about oral health If you didn't already have enough reasons to take good care of your mouth, teeth and gums, the relationship between your oral health and your overall health provides even more. Resolve to practice good oral hygiene every day. You're making an investment in your overall health, not just for now, but for the future, too. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dental/DE00001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 This is really fascinating, I have never heard of Oil Pulling before. You made me laugh with your comment about being forced to take cod liver oil :-) My Mom (who is 66 years old) tells me that she has had a bottle of cod liver oil in her refrigerator for months now…bought it with good intention of getting back to using it on a regular basis, but she just can’t bring herself to do it (and shutters just thinking about it). She to was forced to take cod liver oil as a child and has some oil issues of her own :-). I wonder if my children will have cod liver oil nightmares as they mature as well! ~Chris _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of Maracuja Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:00 AM Vaccinations Subject: Re: Oil Pulling Therapy Have you tried this Rosemary? I'm interested but have a problem with oil. I can do the liver cleanse requiring three quarters of a cup of virgin olive oil and grapefruit juice, yet I have a problem keeping oil in my mouth. I use coconut oil daily but I eat it cold and thus, solid, so I can swallow it without gagging. I think it may be a " hangover " from being forced to take cod liver oil as a child.Maracuja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 thank you so much for posting this.  the owner of the veggan restaurant we frequent mentioned this to me months ago when he saw me purchasing sunflower oil for my daughters raw milk. i filed it in the back of my mind and something " good to know " . Now what he was saying all makes sense. I tried it this morning and will do it regularly from now on. Sunflower oil is not bad to do it with... and i did it as i was preparing my daughter's food. Keep me focused on something other than what was in my mouth which helped. Thanks again. Ari  Arianna Mojica-  (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston ________________________________ From: rosemarypersi <rosemarypersi@...> Vaccinations Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:46:26 AM Subject: Re: Oil Pulling Therapy > > Have you tried this Rosemary? I'm interested but have a problem with oil. I can do the liver cleanse requiring three quarters of a cup of virgin olive oil and grapefruit juice, yet I have a problem keeping oil in my mouth. I use coconut oil daily but I eat it cold and thus, solid, so I can swallow it without gagging. I think it may be a " hangover " from being forced to take cod liver oil as a child.Maracuja Hi Maracuja & , Yes I have tried doing the 'oil pulling' in the shower as does probably is the easiest way to do it. I like the idea of using the oils as antibacterials. Maracuja,Have you tried using sunflower oil?since that has the least taste out of the oils. If not,perhaps the coconut oil would work for you, is coconut oil also antibacterial? Both my son & I suffer from gingivitis, inflammed bleeding gums, as my son is disabled therefore using the oil is a much safer option rather than mouthwashes. There must be something homeopathic for gingivtis that perhaps could be used as a paste to rub into inflamed gums ? Does anyone have any suggestions ? I never realised how important oral health is until I started to research it, here are some interesting studies... ... Oral health is very important,your oral health is connected to many other health conditions beyond your mouth. There have been quite a few interesting studies which have used oral health as a predictor of heart disease risk. http://www.webmd. com/oral- health/news/ 20040218/ oral-health- score- predict-heart- risks Oral Health Score May Reveal Heart Risks New Oral Health Score May Predict Heart Disease Risk Your smile may speak volumes about your heart. New research shows that poor scores in five different areas of oral health may serve as a red flag for heart disease risk. A small study shows that poor oral health was a stronger predictor of heart disease than other commonly used risk factors, such as low HDL " good " cholesterol, high levels of a clotting factor called fibrinogen, and high triglycerides (a type of fat). Researchers say if future studies confirm these results, a dental exam may help identify people at risk for heart attack or stroke who do not yet have symptoms of heart disease. Oral Diseases Top the List In the study, which appears in the current issue of Circulation: Journal of the American Heart Association, researchers used five types of oral diseases to create a general rating of oral health, called the asymptomatic dental score (ADS). " Oral infections are thought to produce inflammation that might be associated with coronary heart disease, so we examined all oral pathologies that might generate inflammation, " says researcher Sok-Ja Janket, DMD, MPH, assistant professor at Boston University School of Dental Medicine, in a news release. The diseases include: Pericoronitis -- an infection around the third molar Gingivitis -- gum inflammation Root remnants -- when teeth are decayed to the point that only the tip of the root remains Missing teeth Cavities Researchers used a mathematical model to determine the strength of each disease's association with heart disease in 256 Finnish adults with heart disease and a group of 250 similar adults without heart disease. They then weighted each disease's contribution and came up with the ADS. Of the five diseases, the strongest predictor of heart disease was pericoronitis, followed by root remnants, gingivitis, cavities, and missing teeth. When researchers compared the ADS with other known indicators of heart disease risk, they found the oral health score was a stronger predictor of risk than several well-studied factors, including some types of inflammatory markers for heart disease and cholesterol levels. Oral health: A window to your overall health Gum disease can let bacteria enter your bloodstream and wreak havoc elsewhere in your body. Or sometimes, signs of a disease may first show up in your mouth. While the eyes may be the window to the soul, your mouth is a window to your body's health. The state of your oral health can offer lots of clues about your overall health. Oral health and overall health are more connected than you might realize. Your oral health is connected to many other health conditions beyond your mouth. Sometimes the first sign of a disease shows up in your mouth. In other cases, infections in your mouth, such as gum disease, can cause problems in other areas of your body. Learn more about this intimate connection between oral health and overall health. The connection between oral health and overall health Your mouth is normally teeming with bacteria. Usually you can keep these bacteria under control with good oral health care, such as daily brushing and flossing. Saliva is also a key defense against bacteria and viruses. It contains enzymes that destroy bacteria in different ways. But harmful bacteria can sometimes grow out of control and lead to periodontitis, a serious gum infection. When your gums are healthy, bacteria in your mouth usually don't enter your bloodstream. However, gum disease may provide bacteria a port of entry into your bloodstream. Sometimes invasive dental treatments can also allow bacteria to enter your bloodstream. And medications or treatments that reduce saliva flow or disrupt the normal balance of bacteria in your mouth may also lead to oral changes, making it easier for bacteria to enter your bloodstream. Some researchers believe that these bacteria and inflammation from your mouth are linked to other health problems in the rest of your body. MORE ON THIS TOPIC HIV/AIDS Type 1 diabetes Oral health and other health conditions Here's a look at some of the diseases and conditions that may be linked to oral health: Cardiovascular disease. Research shows that several types of cardiovascular disease may be linked to oral health. These include heart disease, clogged arteries, stroke and bacterial endocarditis. Some researchers believe that bacteria from gum disease can enter your bloodstream and travel through your arteries to your heart, affecting your cardiovascular system. Although periodontal disease seems to be associated with heart disease, more studies are needed before the link can be confirmed with certainty. Pregnancy and birth. Gum disease has been linked to premature birth. Some research has shown that disease-causing organisms in a pregnant woman's mouth can wind up in the placenta or amniotic fluid, possibly causing premature birth. Unfortunately, treating periodontal disease during pregnancy may be too late, because the infection may have already spread in the woman's body. This is why it's vital to maintain excellent oral health before you get pregnant. Diabetes. Diabetes increases your risk of gum disease, cavities, tooth loss, dry mouth, and a variety of oral infections. Conversely, poor oral health can make your diabetes more difficult to control. Infections may cause your blood sugar to rise and require more insulin to keep it under control. HIV/AIDS. In some cases, one of the first signs of AIDS may appear in your mouth, with severe gum infection. You may also develop persistent white spots or unusual lesions on your tongue or in your mouth. Osteoporosis. The first stages of bone loss may show up in your teeth. Your dentist may be able to spot this on routine dental X- rays. If bone loss worsens from year to year, your dentist can suggest that you discuss the issue with your other health care providers. Other conditions. Many other conditions may make their presence known in your mouth before you know anything's wrong. These may include Sjogren's syndrome, certain cancers, eating disorders, syphilis, gonorrhea and substance abuse. MORE ON THIS TOPIC Oral thrush What you can do about oral health If you didn't already have enough reasons to take good care of your mouth, teeth and gums, the relationship between your oral health and your overall health provides even more. Resolve to practice good oral hygiene every day. You're making an investment in your overall health, not just for now, but for the future, too. http://www.mayoclin ic.com/health/ dental/DE00001 ~~~ " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health ~~~A truth¢s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic. " Dresden www.vaclib.org www.909shot.com  http://www.vacinfo.org/ http://www.moorbows.com/http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htmhttp://www.vran.or\ g/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Thanks Rosemary! I love coconut flavour but the texture of any oil from a spoon to in my mouth gets me! I lve raw sunflowers but have never used the oil. I love thick green pure virgin olive oil on my raw or sweated greens but would not be happy taking it by the spoonful. It takes me about 5 minutes to get the liver cleanse amount down sipping directly from a shaker so that I don't get it separating before I get it down the hatch! I can shake it between each sip.  The importance of oral health was brought home to me during an aunt's long battle with cancer. She had very chalky teeth and said that in the interests of vanity, she probably would not have had to continue the battle intermittently for 27 years.  I had my amalgams replaced and root canalled teeth removed. It was explained to me thus: The tooth is dead, therefore remove it. When your toes or fingers die through frostbite no one suggests keeping them " because a gap would look ugly " . Such a good analogy! What I found was that the teeth were on the same acupuncture meridians as other health problems I was suffering at the time. Once the teeth were removed...voilà ...problems solved! So... I need to remove something along the brain/imagination/loathsome memory meridian to get past the oil in mouth problem!!!!! Haha! Maracuja  ________________________________ From: rosemarypersi <rosemarypersi@...> Vaccinations Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:46:26 AM Subject: Re: Oil Pulling Therapy > > Have you tried this Rosemary? I'm interested but have a problem with oil. I can do the liver cleanse requiring three quarters of a cup of virgin olive oil and grapefruit juice, yet I have a problem keeping oil in my mouth. I use coconut oil daily but I eat it cold and thus, solid, so I can swallow it without gagging. I think it may be a " hangover " from being forced to take cod liver oil as a child.Maracuja Hi Maracuja & , Yes I have tried doing the 'oil pulling' in the shower as does probably is the easiest way to do it. I like the idea of using the oils as antibacterials. Maracuja,Have you tried using sunflower oil?since that has the least taste out of the oils. If not,perhaps the coconut oil would work for you, is coconut oil also antibacterial? Both my son & I suffer from gingivitis, inflammed bleeding gums, as my son is disabled therefore using the oil is a much safer option rather than mouthwashes. There must be something homeopathic for gingivtis that perhaps could be used as a paste to rub into inflamed gums ? Does anyone have any suggestions ? I never realised how important oral health is until I started to research it, here are some interesting studies... ... Oral health is very important,your oral health is connected to many other health conditions beyond your mouth. There have been quite a few interesting studies which have used oral health as a predictor of heart disease risk. http://www.webmd. com/oral- health/news/ 20040218/ oral-health- score- predict-heart- risks Oral Health Score May Reveal Heart Risks New Oral Health Score May Predict Heart Disease Risk Your smile may speak volumes about your heart. New research shows that poor scores in five different areas of oral health may serve as a red flag for heart disease risk. A small study shows that poor oral health was a stronger predictor of heart disease than other commonly used risk factors, such as low HDL " good " cholesterol, high levels of a clotting factor called fibrinogen, and high triglycerides (a type of fat). Researchers say if future studies confirm these results, a dental exam may help identify people at risk for heart attack or stroke who do not yet have symptoms of heart disease. Oral Diseases Top the List In the study, which appears in the current issue of Circulation: Journal of the American Heart Association, researchers used five types of oral diseases to create a general rating of oral health, called the asymptomatic dental score (ADS). " Oral infections are thought to produce inflammation that might be associated with coronary heart disease, so we examined all oral pathologies that might generate inflammation, " says researcher Sok-Ja Janket, DMD, MPH, assistant professor at Boston University School of Dental Medicine, in a news release. The diseases include: Pericoronitis -- an infection around the third molar Gingivitis -- gum inflammation Root remnants -- when teeth are decayed to the point that only the tip of the root remains Missing teeth Cavities Researchers used a mathematical model to determine the strength of each disease's association with heart disease in 256 Finnish adults with heart disease and a group of 250 similar adults without heart disease. They then weighted each disease's contribution and came up with the ADS. Of the five diseases, the strongest predictor of heart disease was pericoronitis, followed by root remnants, gingivitis, cavities, and missing teeth. When researchers compared the ADS with other known indicators of heart disease risk, they found the oral health score was a stronger predictor of risk than several well-studied factors, including some types of inflammatory markers for heart disease and cholesterol levels. Oral health: A window to your overall health Gum disease can let bacteria enter your bloodstream and wreak havoc elsewhere in your body. Or sometimes, signs of a disease may first show up in your mouth. While the eyes may be the window to the soul, your mouth is a window to your body's health. The state of your oral health can offer lots of clues about your overall health. Oral health and overall health are more connected than you might realize. Your oral health is connected to many other health conditions beyond your mouth. Sometimes the first sign of a disease shows up in your mouth. In other cases, infections in your mouth, such as gum disease, can cause problems in other areas of your body. Learn more about this intimate connection between oral health and overall health. The connection between oral health and overall health Your mouth is normally teeming with bacteria. Usually you can keep these bacteria under control with good oral health care, such as daily brushing and flossing. Saliva is also a key defense against bacteria and viruses. It contains enzymes that destroy bacteria in different ways. But harmful bacteria can sometimes grow out of control and lead to periodontitis, a serious gum infection. When your gums are healthy, bacteria in your mouth usually don't enter your bloodstream. However, gum disease may provide bacteria a port of entry into your bloodstream. Sometimes invasive dental treatments can also allow bacteria to enter your bloodstream. And medications or treatments that reduce saliva flow or disrupt the normal balance of bacteria in your mouth may also lead to oral changes, making it easier for bacteria to enter your bloodstream. Some researchers believe that these bacteria and inflammation from your mouth are linked to other health problems in the rest of your body. MORE ON THIS TOPIC HIV/AIDS Type 1 diabetes Oral health and other health conditions Here's a look at some of the diseases and conditions that may be linked to oral health: Cardiovascular disease. Research shows that several types of cardiovascular disease may be linked to oral health. These include heart disease, clogged arteries, stroke and bacterial endocarditis. Some researchers believe that bacteria from gum disease can enter your bloodstream and travel through your arteries to your heart, affecting your cardiovascular system. Although periodontal disease seems to be associated with heart disease, more studies are needed before the link can be confirmed with certainty. Pregnancy and birth. Gum disease has been linked to premature birth. Some research has shown that disease-causing organisms in a pregnant woman's mouth can wind up in the placenta or amniotic fluid, possibly causing premature birth. Unfortunately, treating periodontal disease during pregnancy may be too late, because the infection may have already spread in the woman's body. This is why it's vital to maintain excellent oral health before you get pregnant. Diabetes. Diabetes increases your risk of gum disease, cavities, tooth loss, dry mouth, and a variety of oral infections. Conversely, poor oral health can make your diabetes more difficult to control. Infections may cause your blood sugar to rise and require more insulin to keep it under control. HIV/AIDS. In some cases, one of the first signs of AIDS may appear in your mouth, with severe gum infection. You may also develop persistent white spots or unusual lesions on your tongue or in your mouth. Osteoporosis. The first stages of bone loss may show up in your teeth. Your dentist may be able to spot this on routine dental X- rays. If bone loss worsens from year to year, your dentist can suggest that you discuss the issue with your other health care providers. Other conditions. Many other conditions may make their presence known in your mouth before you know anything's wrong. These may include Sjogren's syndrome, certain cancers, eating disorders, syphilis, gonorrhea and substance abuse. MORE ON THIS TOPIC Oral thrush What you can do about oral health If you didn't already have enough reasons to take good care of your mouth, teeth and gums, the relationship between your oral health and your overall health provides even more. Resolve to practice good oral hygiene every day. You're making an investment in your overall health, not just for now, but for the future, too. http://www.mayoclin ic.com/health/ dental/DE00001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hi Bobby, I had pretty much the same problem as you -- started with fowl mites, got rid of fowl mites, was left with something smaller and just as nasty. Now, finally, the bugs don't seem to love me anymore. We have divorced. I think the final thing I did that closed the deal was oil pulling therapy. I started about 7 weeks ago, doing it once every morning on an empty stomach, using organic raw extra virgin coconut oil. It supposedly doesn't matter what type of vegetable oil one uses, but I decided to go with the coconut due to its antimicrobial properties. The first week I felt bug activity, but after that the bugs died down until now I feel normal again. I can go two days without a shower (yeah, yuck, I know) and not feel any bugs crawling. I'm not sure if the bugs are gone so much as I cannot feel them anymore. Like you, I had bug issues for years prior to my fowl mite infestation, however the bugs never really bothered me. I think my skin was somewhat infested because for years I had bumps on my upper back and arms that are now gone after two years of frenetic bathing and scrubbing and obsessing over my skin. Geez. myrtle > > Kixx, > I am sure I had these sand creatures in my skin for several years prior to being infested with fowl mites. I asked my DR sevral times about them, but they did not have any crawling or biting associated with them. They were small whitish/red bumps, especially on sensitive skin. Sand creatures are alive. They had infested the roof liner of my truck. The first time I sprayed it with nokout, they fell on me for 30 minutes while I was driving from the liner. I think they are among the more quiter insects infesting the human body. They are there, living in us, and just kinda quiet about it. > It was the fowl mite that I KNOW I had and it's co-infestor that caused the biting and crawling on me. I knew when I was infested pretty much right away and knew it was trouble, but never ,never thought this much. I now feel I have elimated the fowl mites with the sprays I used last year. They were obvious black specs under carpets/ rugs, sheets, etc, the size of periods on this sentence, everywhere. Joan is one of the few people in this room that also confirmed a fowl mite infestation by the very visable black specs ( granted many different sized species but these followed what an infestation is suppose to look like to the " PROS " ). She was lucky enough to use cedacide successfully. I have not seen these in my environment since the heavy spraying. I think I have been left with something even smaller, that infests the fowl mite, and really likes me, my cars and home too. > I too, am at the same point you are. Mainly just from the neck up. I really am starting to think it is a demodex mite gone wild. Maybe what infested the fowl mite is infesting the demodex now and driving them and dust mites in our homes and cars crazy. Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Myrtle I think you may be right about the oil pulling. I had done it fir about two weeks and that correlated with progress. I ran out and haven't done it about three weeks now--I'm still better than before the oil pulling but some crawling on face. I will get back on it!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 2, 2010, at 10:16 PM, "myrtle_maui" <myrtle_maui@...> wrote: Hi Bobby, I had pretty much the same problem as you -- started with fowl mites, got rid of fowl mites, was left with something smaller and just as nasty. Now, finally, the bugs don't seem to love me anymore. We have divorced. I think the final thing I did that closed the deal was oil pulling therapy. I started about 7 weeks ago, doing it once every morning on an empty stomach, using organic raw extra virgin coconut oil. It supposedly doesn't matter what type of vegetable oil one uses, but I decided to go with the coconut due to its antimicrobial properties. The first week I felt bug activity, but after that the bugs died down until now I feel normal again. I can go two days without a shower (yeah, yuck, I know) and not feel any bugs crawling. I'm not sure if the bugs are gone so much as I cannot feel them anymore. Like you, I had bug issues for years prior to my fowl mite infestation, however the bugs never really bothered me. I think my skin was somewhat infested because for years I had bumps on my upper back and arms that are now gone after two years of frenetic bathing and scrubbing and obsessing over my skin. Geez. myrtle > > Kixx, > I am sure I had these sand creatures in my skin for several years prior to being infested with fowl mites. I asked my DR sevral times about them, but they did not have any crawling or biting associated with them. They were small whitish/red bumps, especially on sensitive skin. Sand creatures are alive. They had infested the roof liner of my truck. The first time I sprayed it with nokout, they fell on me for 30 minutes while I was driving from the liner. I think they are among the more quiter insects infesting the human body. They are there, living in us, and just kinda quiet about it. > It was the fowl mite that I KNOW I had and it's co-infestor that caused the biting and crawling on me. I knew when I was infested pretty much right away and knew it was trouble, but never ,never thought this much. I now feel I have elimated the fowl mites with the sprays I used last year. They were obvious black specs under carpets/ rugs, sheets, etc, the size of periods on this sentence, everywhere. Joan is one of the few people in this room that also confirmed a fowl mite infestation by the very visable black specs ( granted many different sized species but these followed what an infestation is suppose to look like to the "PROS"). She was lucky enough to use cedacide successfully. I have not seen these in my environment since the heavy spraying. I think I have been left with something even smaller, that infests the fowl mite, and really likes me, my cars and home too. > I too, am at the same point you are. Mainly just from the neck up. I really am starting to think it is a demodex mite gone wild. Maybe what infested the fowl mite is infesting the demodex now and driving them and dust mites in our homes and cars crazy. Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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