Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

[Guest guest]

In relation. I beleive this video to be correct or very close to correct. The

fungus insects ect are all linked.

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/List_Chemicals.jsp?ChemUseList=Nematicide & dUseList=\

y & dDPR_Chem_Code=y & dEPA_PCCode=y & dCAS_No=y & dClassList=y & ChemRegList= & ChemUseList\

= & dS_BA=y & dEPA_Reg=y

>

> There is hope:

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

>

>

>

> and a shorter version:

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

>

>

> D.

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[Guest guest]

I think we should look at anything claiming to be the solution w/ a grain of

salt. This is promising but does not have all the answers. Or the answers it

proposes could be wrong altogether. So let's not declare victory yet until it

actually happens.

However, it did interest me.

So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'? This

video also suggests that these " Star Wars spaceships " hurt when trying to exit

the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick

sensations?

Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much anymore?

My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face and scalp.

However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not covered in

clothing, which is the face, starts to get " attacked " . I feel more swarming, I

feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this video explain

things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms that try to

come out of your skin as it is focused on?

4:49 is where I'm familiar with about the rings, nooses, lassos, traps - aka

fiber. Except I always see mine enbedded in a while/opaque crystaline

substance. The crystal part can be any shape, but mostly non-uniform, long

shape, with the blue/black fiber sticking out.

I've stated many times before that mine started from an infested used car I had

the misfortune of buying. The previous owner was a dog rescuer. I had to vacuum

out all the dog hair/fur out of the interior after buying it. Never again will

I ever buy a car from a pet owner (no offense to animal lovers out there but

after what I've been through, hope you understand). I went crazy at first with

all the protocols - pesticides galore and windex everywhere, menthol all day,

bounce sheets in sleep - maybe as the popular belief is right now, mine really

did start off as a mite infestation (although that's also suspect) and then it

turned into something else b/c of all that I was doing to the home, car, and my

body, and this something else is a mold/fungus infestation that we call here

secondary or opportunistic infection.

I would like to know where the pictures really came from - the video says from

the slides of backyard scientists of MDR but I am not convinced until I know

that they were able to culture these spores and fibers in a dish (maybe they

did? It's unclear from the video).

> >

> > There is hope:

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

> >

> >

> >

> > and a shorter version:

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

> >

> >

> > D.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What you have explained here in your post is what we went through. Our problem now is that we keep coming into contact with this "thing" in stores, hospitals, etc. Those weird white specks are no longer seen in my house. The only time we see them on our skin is when we have been to a location where we have picked them up again. When we are in the stores or other places we feel both the crawling and the pin pricks. My biggest worry is that what ever the thing is, it seems to be getting every where now. One restaurant we ate at last November gave us 2 weeks of work getting them off of us again. This makes no sense to me. Rita

Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

I think we should look at anything claiming to be the solution w/ a grain of salt. This is promising but does not have all the answers. Or the answers it proposes could be wrong altogether. So let's not declare victory yet until it actually happens.However, it did interest me.So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'? This video also suggests that these "Star Wars spaceships" hurt when trying to exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick sensations?Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get "attacked". I feel more swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?4:49 is where I'm familiar with about the rings, nooses, lassos, traps - aka fiber. Except I always see mine enbedded in a while/opaque crystaline substance. The crystal part can be any shape, but mostly non-uniform, long shape, with the blue/black fiber sticking out.I've stated many times before that mine started from an infested used car I had the misfortune of buying. The previous owner was a dog rescuer. I had to vacuum out all the dog hair/fur out of the interior after buying it. Never again will I ever buy a car from a pet owner (no offense to animal lovers out there but after what I've been through, hope you understand). I went crazy at first with all the protocols - pesticides galore and windex everywhere, menthol all day, bounce sheets in sleep - maybe as the popular belief is right now, mine really did start off as a mite infestation (although that's also suspect) and then it turned into something else b/c of all that I was doing to the home, car, and my body, and this something else is a mold/fungus infestation that we call here secondary or opportunistic infection.I would like to know where the pictures really came from - the video says from the slides of backyard scientists of MDR but I am not convinced until I know that they were able to culture these spores and fibers in a dish (maybe they did? It's unclear from the video).> >> > There is hope:> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related> > > > > > > > and a shorter version:> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related> > > > > > D.> >>

[Guest guest]

There is something strange going on for sure. We have both had extensive blood work done on us and all came back normal. We even told them we had been exposed to some really strong pesticides......but all seems to be ok. What has me so stumped is the clearness of our skin. I discovered during my second year that I could see this crap on our skin with the black light. Not only could I see the black and white specks but I could see some weird type of yellowish.....some times white-beige covering on areas of our skin. It looked like we had put glowing makeup foundation on our skin. This "covering" was very bad around our eyes.....our necks.....arms.....toes...under our arms.....it seemed to be everywhere. Well, all that glowing stuff is gone. Our skin looks normal.....I have looked at my children's skin under the black light to see what normal skin looks like and mine and my husband's skin looks normal now. Once we go out where where the things are we can feel them within 10 minutes and the things seem to be getting every where. It's hell having to constantly be on guard for the things. Makes for a very difficult life. Rita

Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Hi RitaSorry to hear you get attacked from places. Made me think again so maybe another theroy. Boy full of theories today. lol. Maybe you also have not all over come some hidden mold or fungas in your body which is going to attrack any type of mite. Mites can be found hear and there just the same as any bug. Like bees, spiders. Enough to run into them on a daily basis but different kinds in thier own species. Same with the mites. Different places are going to have mites on adverage but they are not attracked to people whom can not feed them. I wonder if you still have a hidden health problem in your family that is not yet found out or resolved. Wish you could test the blood of your family just to see. Would be interesting.In Light Lynn> > >> > > There is hope:> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related> > > > > > > > > > > > and a shorter version:> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related> > > > > > > > > D.> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Rita I had blood work done and it came back normal as well. I agree that these

things are environmental. I felt them in stores, hospitals, and even at work,

which is a medical environment. There is something going on we are not losing it

here.

> > > >

> > > > There is hope:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > and a shorter version:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

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> > > > D.

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[Guest guest]

I believe so ,also...I read some early postings on their work and it actually

blew my mind at the time(Sarothras posts particularly)..As perhaps time goes on

it will maybe get more refined

--- mfrreman@... wrote:

From: " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:37:26 -0000

In relation. I beleive this video to be correct or very close to correct. The

fungus insects ect are all linked.

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/List_Chemicals.jsp?ChemUseList=Nematicide & dUseList=\

y & dDPR_Chem_Code=y & dEPA_PCCode=y & dCAS_No=y & dClassList=y & ChemRegList= & ChemUseList\

= & dS_BA=y & dEPA_Reg=y

>

> There is hope:

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

>

>

>

> and a shorter version:

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

>

>

> D.

>

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[Guest guest]

These people post on morgellons research...I think it's a good start...I think

victory would be curing the mess..something that infiltrates Your body like this

isn't going away in a day...then reinfection from the enviroment..I agree with

the nooses and lassos(gross)...I don't know that I've past starships maybe that

joy comes later...maybe some people have nastier crystals..I don't have horrible

pain with this but perhaps that is what some have...I too have most prob with

face and scalp

--- kixx_rc@... wrote:

From: " kixx_rc " <kixx_rc@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:33:23 -0000

I think we should look at anything claiming to be the solution w/ a grain of

salt. This is promising but does not have all the answers. Or the answers it

proposes could be wrong altogether. So let's not declare victory yet until it

actually happens.

However, it did interest me.

So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'? This

video also suggests that these " Star Wars spaceships " hurt when trying to exit

the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick

sensations?

Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much anymore?

My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face and scalp.

However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not covered in

clothing, which is the face, starts to get " attacked " . I feel more swarming, I

feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this video explain

things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms that try to

come out of your skin as it is focused on?

4:49 is where I'm familiar with about the rings, nooses, lassos, traps - aka

fiber. Except I always see mine enbedded in a while/opaque crystaline

substance. The crystal part can be any shape, but mostly non-uniform, long

shape, with the blue/black fiber sticking out.

I've stated many times before that mine started from an infested used car I had

the misfortune of buying. The previous owner was a dog rescuer. I had to vacuum

out all the dog hair/fur out of the interior after buying it. Never again will

I ever buy a car from a pet owner (no offense to animal lovers out there but

after what I've been through, hope you understand). I went crazy at first with

all the protocols - pesticides galore and windex everywhere, menthol all day,

bounce sheets in sleep - maybe as the popular belief is right now, mine really

did start off as a mite infestation (although that's also suspect) and then it

turned into something else b/c of all that I was doing to the home, car, and my

body, and this something else is a mold/fungus infestation that we call here

secondary or opportunistic infection.

I would like to know where the pictures really came from - the video says from

the slides of backyard scientists of MDR but I am not convinced until I know

that they were able to culture these spores and fibers in a dish (maybe they

did? It's unclear from the video).

> >

> > There is hope:

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

> >

> >

> >

> > and a shorter version:

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

> >

> >

> > D.

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I had more pain with the black specks than the sand creatures. When I would get

eruptions the black specks would come out of them watch that with my own 2 eyes.

But the crystals or sand just wiped off.

> > >

> > > There is hope:

> > >

> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > and a shorter version:

> > >

> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

> > >

> > >

> > > D.

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[Guest guest]

This stuff seems to me multiplies at the speed of light..after my experience in

Lakeport,Ca last year....I saw so many staff members who had this stuff...red

itchy face... think it is far more contagious and wide spread than We know...How

many people are being treated for lice,scabies or rashes of unknown origin,how

many homeless people have this,how many elderly confined to

institutions,mentally ill and others who might not report forever or for a long

time....

--- mfrreman@... wrote:

From: " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:43:54 -0000

Rita I had blood work done and it came back normal as well. I agree that these

things are environmental. I felt them in stores, hospitals, and even at work,

which is a medical environment. There is something going on we are not losing it

here.

> > > >

> > > > There is hope:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > and a shorter version:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > D.

> > > >

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> >

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[Guest guest]

I think there are many variations possible,too and various stages and varying

levels of toxicity..and many vectors

--- torpedolynn@... wrote:

From: " Lynn " <torpedolynn@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:41:40 -0000

Hi Kixx

I got a theroy. Some of us get rid of part of the attacks becuase we killed off

one of the molds or fungas that feeds them at certain stages or different

parasite or mites. You may not have enough of the mold or fungas left in you to

attract large groups of mites but still have parasites getting the more hidden

stuff down in the body. Becuase more than one type of mite might be involved at

time you come across a hard to kill group that is very hungry and can still

smell some of the mold or fungas hidden in the body and try to go for it but

with failure. Also various stages of the dease going in and comming out.

In Light Lynn

> > >

> > > There is hope:

> > >

> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > and a shorter version:

> > >

> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

> > >

> > >

> > > D.

> > >

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[Guest guest]

I agree.............every single hospital we have to go to has the things in it now. Back in 2006 it was just our local hospital but now it is in every hospital we have to go in. Each restaurant has some of the things in it to some degree. We now feel them in our new Walmart store and it's only one year old. There just has to be an answer to this.....but I'm up against the wall. I wish we could get the help we need but I'm afraid that is a long, long way off. Rita

Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Rita I had blood work done and it came back normal as well. I agree that these things are environmental. I felt them in stores, hospitals, and even at work, which is a medical environment. There is something going on we are not losing it here.> > > >> > > > There is hope:> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a shorter version:> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related> > > > > > > > > > > > D.> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]



I'm afraid that until we have huge numbers of people lining up at doctors offices around the country we will be stuck at square one with our backs against the wall. Rita

Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:43:54 -0000 Rita I had blood work done and it came back normal as well. I agree that these things are environmental. I felt them in stores, hospitals, and even at work, which is a medical environment. There is something going on we are not losing it here. > > > > > > > > There is hope: > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a shorter version: > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related > > > > > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > ------------

[Guest guest]

Kixx,

I am sure I had these sand creatures in my skin for several years prior to being

infested with fowl mites. I asked my DR sevral times about them, but they did

not have any crawling or biting associated with them. They were small

whitish/red bumps, especially on sensitive skin. Sand creatures are alive. They

had infested the roof liner of my truck. The first time I sprayed it with

nokout, they fell on me for 30 minutes while I was driving from the liner. I

think they are among the more quiter insects infesting the human body. They are

there, living in us, and just kinda quiet about it.

It was the fowl mite that I KNOW I had and it's co-infestor that caused the

biting and crawling on me. I knew when I was infested pretty much right away and

knew it was trouble, but never ,never thought this much. I now feel I have

elimated the fowl mites with the sprays I used last year. They were obvious

black specs under carpets/ rugs, sheets, etc, the size of periods on this

sentence, everywhere. Joan is one of the few people in this room that also

confirmed a fowl mite infestation by the very visable black specs ( granted many

different sized species but these followed what an infestation is suppose to

look like to the " PROS " ). She was lucky enough to use cedacide successfully. I

have not seen these in my environment since the heavy spraying. I think I have

been left with something even smaller, that infests the fowl mite, and really

likes me, my cars and home too.

I too, am at the same point you are. Mainly just from the neck up. I really am

starting to think it is a demodex mite gone wild. Maybe what infested the fowl

mite is infesting the demodex now and driving them and dust mites in our homes

and cars crazy. Bobby

> So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'?

This video also suggests that these " Star Wars spaceships " hurt when trying to

exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick

sensations?

>

> Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much

anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face

and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not

covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get " attacked " . I feel more

swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this

video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms

that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?

[Guest guest]

Bobby I wonder about straw itch mites. Since all this starts with a insect

infestation. Here is what makes me wonder.

http://www.bugspray.com/article/itchmites.html

However, Straw Itch Mites can live

on other types of insects as well including roaches and

powder post beetles. The author suspects the list of

insects which are known to harbor Straw Itch Mites is

small compared to the list of insects which they actually

infest. This is probably happening because Straw Itch

Mites are generally never noticed and only when they

turn their attention to people or pets do we ever

recognize their existence.

Straw Itch Mites are fascinating creatures. They

are small; so small are Itch Mites they are invisible

to the naked eye. Straw Itch Mites are parasitic. They

live on bodily fluids of other insects and will occupy

the same nest sights including boxes, cabinets, furniture,

clothing, carpeting, mulch, crawl spaces, insulation,

turf, wall voids and just about anywhere insects are found

to live.

Though they don't attack for blood, itch mites eat flesh and pierce the skin of

people and pets seeking bodily fluids.

Reactions to being bit are usually pretty immediate and though not

life threatening, itch mites will cause a great

deal of discomfort, swelling, redness of the skin,

itching, blotches and other reactions which most

people would guess could have happened from

a mosquito, chigger, bedbug or flea.

Furniture is another common nest sight of itch

mites because itch mites will regularly feed on

wood beetles like the powder post beetle. Carpet beetles,

khapra beetles and cigarette beetles are some of

the common hosts which will regularly feed on fabric

and itch mites will attack them as well. Once

established on the fabric of furniture, itch

mites will be able to find people quickly.

Carpeting, pet bedding, mattresses, wall voids

where insects or animals have been living, attics,

groceries from the store, clothing, landscape supplies

and other objects which are generally brought home

can all serve as vectors on which itch mites can

arrive.

> > So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'?

This video also suggests that these " Star Wars spaceships " hurt when trying to

exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick

sensations?

> >

> > Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much

anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face

and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not

covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get " attacked " . I feel more

swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this

video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms

that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?

>

[Guest guest]

Hopefully not and We have a huge knowledge base that will give us an advantage

--- m.r.carlson@... wrote:

From: " Rita and Mike Carlson " <m.r.carlson@...>

<bird mites >

Subject: Re: Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 17:47:57 -0600

I'm afraid that until we have huge numbers of people lining up at doctors

offices around the country we will be stuck at square one with our backs against

the wall. Rita

Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:43:54 -0000

Rita I had blood work done and it came back normal as well. I agree that these

things are environmental. I felt them in stores, hospitals, and even at work,

which is a medical environment. There is something going on we are not losing it

here.

> > > >

> > > > There is hope:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > and a shorter version:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > D.

> > > >

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Kixx -

I agree with your skepticism.

I know a group of people on Lymebusters were doing cultures and having them sent

out. The one who made this video is one of them.

I don't know if these are the same (honestly, I didn't even watch after a

minute; some of the people listed as " scientists " at the beginning of that video

don't even know the difference between bacteria, virus, protozoa, fungus, etc).

Also, fungal spores are EVERYWHERE. Because some of them land on the skin and

then culture proves nothing at all.

Bessie

> > >

> > > There is hope:

> > >

> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU & feature=related

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > and a shorter version:

> > >

> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikNGeJsvFu0 & feature=related

> > >

> > >

> > > D.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have completely quit trying to firgure out what this is. I say this because it would only make me crazy!! According to my pest guy, there are thousands of mites and even mites have mites. So I just want to get rid of what I have because focusingon what IT is is probably useless. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 2, 2010, at 6:50 PM, "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote:

Bobby I wonder about straw itch mites. Since all this starts with a insect infestation. Here is what makes me wonder.

http://www.bugspray.com/article/itchmites.html

However, Straw Itch Mites can live

on other types of insects as well including roaches and

powder post beetles. The author suspects the list of

insects which are known to harbor Straw Itch Mites is

small compared to the list of insects which they actually

infest. This is probably happening because Straw Itch

Mites are generally never noticed and only when they

turn their attention to people or pets do we ever

recognize their existence.

Straw Itch Mites are fascinating creatures. They

are small; so small are Itch Mites they are invisible

to the naked eye. Straw Itch Mites are parasitic. They

live on bodily fluids of other insects and will occupy

the same nest sights including boxes, cabinets, furniture,

clothing, carpeting, mulch, crawl spaces, insulation,

turf, wall voids and just about anywhere insects are found

to live.

Though they don't attack for blood, itch mites eat flesh and pierce the skin of people and pets seeking bodily fluids.

Reactions to being bit are usually pretty immediate and though not

life threatening, itch mites will cause a great

deal of discomfort, swelling, redness of the skin,

itching, blotches and other reactions which most

people would guess could have happened from

a mosquito, chigger, bedbug or flea.

Furniture is another common nest sight of itch

mites because itch mites will regularly feed on

wood beetles like the powder post beetle. Carpet beetles,

khapra beetles and cigarette beetles are some of

the common hosts which will regularly feed on fabric

and itch mites will attack them as well. Once

established on the fabric of furniture, itch

mites will be able to find people quickly.

Carpeting, pet bedding, mattresses, wall voids

where insects or animals have been living, attics,

groceries from the store, clothing, landscape supplies

and other objects which are generally brought home

can all serve as vectors on which itch mites can

arrive.

> > So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'? This video also suggests that these "Star Wars spaceships" hurt when trying to exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick sensations?

> >

> > Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get "attacked". I feel more swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?

>

[Guest guest]

HI lynn

That is interesting about the insects. At my house none ever come in cause I am

a epsom salt spraying nut , I saw ants1 day, 1 year ago. I misted them with the

epsom & got out my 16 X magnifying lens they all stood on their back legs &

frantially wiped of their feelers . there were on a mission , I never saw them

again , its been 1 yr .

I read if epsom salts are sprinkled around a garbage can ,racoons will come but

never return. I wonder if it is the laxitive effect that epsom has.that deters

them.?

I read all this & similar things from this pest control book , it is free on the

net at :

www.safesolutionsinc.com

old direct link , might not work anymore so use link above ths line & look for

the chapter on bugs :

Link: in html,

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8 & fr=sfp & p=kidney+stones+apple+cider+tve\

dten & u=www.safesolutionsinc.com/healthy.pdf & w=kidney+stones+apple+apples+cider+t\

vedten & d=QRPP_fmdOdZm & icp=1 & .intl=us

Kidney stones ( calcium) removal : newest way

8 oz of fresh squeezed lemon

juice sweeten with stevia

Then 1 oz squeezed lemon in water every hour for 12 hrs

Old way apple cider 1/2 tspn gravel root 1/2 tspn of Hydranga root

from same site:

the urinary tract include uric acid and the amino acid cystine.

Uric Stones: cure: surgery

(aprox name of the 2nd types off stone ,they are not soluble)

..

another link said:

Kidney Stones

To safely and effectively remove calcium kidney stones, take 30 to 40 drops of

gravel root tincture and 30 to 40

drops of hydrangea root tincture in a glass of apple cider twice a day. To help

prevent their formation, take 2 - 50

mg B6 tablets and 1 - 250 mg tablet of magnesium before sleeping. Drink lots of

distilled water from a glass (not

plastic) bottle.

www.earthclinic.com more good cures

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/14384

this link says

coke & olive oil in the evening

then citeric acid from the drug stroe in the am & all the gall stones will be in

the toilet .. that would be amazing,...it usually takes an operation to cure

Bill

Lynn wrote:

>  

> You know you got me thinking. I have not had any spiders sense winter

started. Also I have had a terrible time with those brown beetles you find in

Sugar, flour, rice, cereal, crackers, and cookies. I find them on my cutting

board when I pull it out from its place in the cabnet slot they make for cutting

boards. find them in my dishes. Because my kitchen is very poor on instilation I

always have to rinse off anything I use with got water.

> Next I am having a big population of blood suckers. But every now and than I

see one just covered with ity bity white or greshish flecks. They act like they

can not be still and act confused and slowly die. When they die they look hallow

dried out; Even though they just died. They are comming in through my covered

air conditioner or slits from the seperating walls or even from under my gaps in

the doors. Just another mystry.

> In Light Lynn

>

>>

>> Bobby I wonder about straw itch mites. Since all this starts with a insect

infestation. Here is what makes me wonder.

>> http://www.bugspray .com/article/ itchmites. html

>>

>> However, Straw Itch Mites can live

>> on other types of insects as well including roaches and

>> powder post beetles. The author suspects the list of

>> insects which are known to harbor Straw Itch Mites is

>> small compared to the list of insects which they actually

>> infest. This is probably happening because Straw Itch

>> Mites are generally never noticed and only when they

>> turn their attention to people or pets do we ever

>> recognize their existence.

>>

>>

>> Straw Itch Mites are fascinating creatures. They

>> are small; so small are Itch Mites they are invisible

>> to the naked eye. Straw Itch Mites are parasitic. They

>> live on bodily fluids of other insects and will occupy

>> the same nest sights including boxes, cabinets, furniture,

>> clothing, carpeting, mulch, crawl spaces, insulation,

>> turf, wall voids and just about anywhere insects are found

>> to live.

>>

>> Though they don't attack for blood, itch mites eat flesh and pierce the skin

of people and pets seeking bodily fluids.

>>

>> Reactions to being bit are usually pretty immediate and though not

>> life threatening, itch mites will cause a great

>> deal of discomfort, swelling, redness of the skin,

>> itching, blotches and other reactions which most

>> people would guess could have happened from

>> a mosquito, chigger, bedbug or flea.

>>

>> Furniture is another common nest sight of itch

>> mites because itch mites will regularly feed on

>> wood beetles like the powder post beetle. Carpet beetles,

>> khapra beetles and cigarette beetles are some of

>> the common hosts which will regularly feed on fabric

>> and itch mites will attack them as well. Once

>> established on the fabric of furniture, itch

>> mites will be able to find people quickly.

>> Carpeting, pet bedding, mattresses, wall voids

>> where insects or animals have been living, attics,

>> groceries from the store, clothing, landscape supplies

>> and other objects which are generally brought home

>> can all serve as vectors on which itch mites can

>> arrive.

>

[Guest guest]

HI lynn

That is interesting about the insects. At my house none ever come in cause I am

a epsom salt spraying nut , I saw ants1 day, 1 year ago. I misted them with the

epsom & got out my 16 X magnifying lens they all stood on their back legs &

frantially wiped of their feelers . there were on a mission , I never saw them

again , its been 1 yr .

I read if epsom salts are sprinkled around a garbage can ,racoons will come but

never return. I wonder if it is the laxitive effect that epsom has.that deters

them.?

I read all this & similar things from this pest control book , it is free on the

net at :

www.safesolutionsinc.com

old direct link , might not work anymore so use link above ths line & look for

the chapter on bugs :

Link: in html,

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8 & fr=sfp & p=kidney+stones+apple+cider+tve\

dten & u=www.safesolutionsinc.com/healthy.pdf & w=kidney+stones+apple+apples+cider+t\

vedten & d=QRPP_fmdOdZm & icp=1 & .intl=us

Kidney stones ( calcium) removal : newest way

8 oz of fresh squeezed lemon

juice sweeten with stevia

Then 1 oz squeezed lemon in water every hour for 12 hrs

Old way apple cider 1/2 tspn gravel root 1/2 tspn of Hydranga root

from same site:

the urinary tract include uric acid and the amino acid cystine.

Uric Stones: cure: surgery

(aprox name of the 2nd types off stone ,they are not soluble)

..

another link said:

Kidney Stones

To safely and effectively remove calcium kidney stones, take 30 to 40 drops of

gravel root tincture and 30 to 40

drops of hydrangea root tincture in a glass of apple cider twice a day. To help

prevent their formation, take 2 - 50

mg B6 tablets and 1 - 250 mg tablet of magnesium before sleeping. Drink lots of

distilled water from a glass (not

plastic) bottle.

www.earthclinic.com more good cures

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/14384

this link says

coke & olive oil in the evening

then citeric acid from the drug stroe in the am & all the gall stones will be in

the toilet .. that would be amazing,...it usually takes an operation to cure

Bill

Lynn wrote:

>  

> You know you got me thinking. I have not had any spiders sense winter

started. Also I have had a terrible time with those brown beetles you find in

Sugar, flour, rice, cereal, crackers, and cookies. I find them on my cutting

board when I pull it out from its place in the cabnet slot they make for cutting

boards. find them in my dishes. Because my kitchen is very poor on instilation I

always have to rinse off anything I use with got water.

> Next I am having a big population of blood suckers. But every now and than I

see one just covered with ity bity white or greshish flecks. They act like they

can not be still and act confused and slowly die. When they die they look hallow

dried out; Even though they just died. They are comming in through my covered

air conditioner or slits from the seperating walls or even from under my gaps in

the doors. Just another mystry.

> In Light Lynn

>

>>

>> Bobby I wonder about straw itch mites. Since all this starts with a insect

infestation. Here is what makes me wonder.

>> http://www.bugspray .com/article/ itchmites. html

>>

>> However, Straw Itch Mites can live

>> on other types of insects as well including roaches and

>> powder post beetles. The author suspects the list of

>> insects which are known to harbor Straw Itch Mites is

>> small compared to the list of insects which they actually

>> infest. This is probably happening because Straw Itch

>> Mites are generally never noticed and only when they

>> turn their attention to people or pets do we ever

>> recognize their existence.

>>

>>

>> Straw Itch Mites are fascinating creatures. They

>> are small; so small are Itch Mites they are invisible

>> to the naked eye. Straw Itch Mites are parasitic. They

>> live on bodily fluids of other insects and will occupy

>> the same nest sights including boxes, cabinets, furniture,

>> clothing, carpeting, mulch, crawl spaces, insulation,

>> turf, wall voids and just about anywhere insects are found

>> to live.

>>

>> Though they don't attack for blood, itch mites eat flesh and pierce the skin

of people and pets seeking bodily fluids.

>>

>> Reactions to being bit are usually pretty immediate and though not

>> life threatening, itch mites will cause a great

>> deal of discomfort, swelling, redness of the skin,

>> itching, blotches and other reactions which most

>> people would guess could have happened from

>> a mosquito, chigger, bedbug or flea.

>>

>> Furniture is another common nest sight of itch

>> mites because itch mites will regularly feed on

>> wood beetles like the powder post beetle. Carpet beetles,

>> khapra beetles and cigarette beetles are some of

>> the common hosts which will regularly feed on fabric

>> and itch mites will attack them as well. Once

>> established on the fabric of furniture, itch

>> mites will be able to find people quickly.

>> Carpeting, pet bedding, mattresses, wall voids

>> where insects or animals have been living, attics,

>> groceries from the store, clothing, landscape supplies

>> and other objects which are generally brought home

>> can all serve as vectors on which itch mites can

>> arrive.

>

[Guest guest]

Had a real beauty in my hair last night(looked like nuthin I'd every seen

before)about 3/4 in black thing with wings)had soaked my head in peroxide...I

see lots of different things..maybe some fungal gnats ..just think they are

attracted to the fungus...the garlic 3000mg is causing a die off..can't think of

what else except the MMS..

--- torpedolynn@... wrote:

From: " Lynn " <torpedolynn@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:54:55 -0000

I agree with the logic. Its interesting to find out what type of mites it may be

and try to guess the whys. But I think once we cure what ever is in us will

solve the problem. It may be more than one thing that attracks them. Some people

claim they never had Morgellons and had bugs biting them. They could have an

Alkaline problems. Maybe they need to find a way to alkalize their inner body to

get rid of their bug problem. Others it is Morgellons and who knows what else

may be attracking the little demons. I just want to get well so I can be like

those around me. Carefree. Though I don't think I could ever let my gaurd all

the way down for the rest of whats left of my life.

In Light Lynn

> > > So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'?

This video also suggests that these " Star Wars spaceships " hurt when trying to

exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick

sensations?

> > >

> > > Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much

anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face

and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not

covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get " attacked " . I feel more

swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this

video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms

that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?

> >

>

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Rush -

I am pretty much in the same place. After watching the theories swirl around

only to end up in the same place, for a couple of years now, my position is to

focus on helping myself and others to get better. And to support the small

handful of credentialled scientists who are looking closely at this.

And a prayer now and then...

Bessie

> > > So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'?

This video also suggests that these " Star Wars spaceships " hurt when trying to

exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick

sensations?

> > >

> > > Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much

anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face

and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not

covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get " attacked " . I feel more

swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this

video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms

that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Rose -

I hope you save things like this. At some point SOME scientist is going to want

them. I so regret that the 1,000's of samples I had are all gone. The most

important one was in the freezer in my mobile home and a guest there threw it

away.

Bessie

> > > > So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand

creatures'? This video also suggests that these " Star Wars spaceships " hurt when

trying to exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin

prick sensations?

> > > >

> > > > Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much

anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face

and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not

covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get " attacked " . I feel more

swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this

video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms

that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bobby,

What did you spray your truck with when they fell down on you while driving?

Thanks for all your input ..

Judy

Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Kixx, I am sure I had these sand creatures in my skin for several years prior to being infested with fowl mites. I asked my DR sevral times about them, but they did not have any crawling or biting associated with them. They were small whitish/red bumps, especially on sensitive skin. Sand creatures are alive. They had infested the roof liner of my truck. The first time I sprayed it with nokout, they fell on me for 30 minutes while I was driving from the liner. I think they are among the more quiter insects infesting the human body. They are there, living in us, and just kinda quiet about it.It was the fowl mite that I KNOW I had and it's co-infestor that caused the biting and crawling on me. I knew when I was infested pretty much right away and knew it was trouble, but never ,never thought this much. I now feel I have elimated the fowl mites with the sprays I used last year. They were obvious black specs under carpets/ rugs, sheets, etc, the size of periods on this sentence, everywhere. Joan is one of the few people in this room that also confirmed a fowl mite infestation by the very visable black specs ( granted many different sized species but these followed what an infestation is suppose to look like to the "PROS"). She was lucky enough to use cedacide successfully. I have not seen these in my environment since the heavy spraying. I think I have been left with something even smaller, that infests the fowl mite, and really likes me, my cars and home too.I too, am at the same point you are. Mainly just from the neck up. I really am starting to think it is a demodex mite gone wild. Maybe what infested the fowl mite is infesting the demodex now and driving them and dust mites in our homes and cars crazy. Bobby> So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'? This video also suggests that these "Star Wars spaceships" hurt when trying to exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick sensations?> > Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get "attacked". I feel more swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?

[Guest guest]

Oopps - just re-read and saw you used Nokout.

.... Judy

Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Kixx, I am sure I had these sand creatures in my skin for several years prior to being infested with fowl mites. I asked my DR sevral times about them, but they did not have any crawling or biting associated with them. They were small whitish/red bumps, especially on sensitive skin. Sand creatures are alive. They had infested the roof liner of my truck. The first time I sprayed it with nokout, they fell on me for 30 minutes while I was driving from the liner. I think they are among the more quiter insects infesting the human body. They are there, living in us, and just kinda quiet about it.It was the fowl mite that I KNOW I had and it's co-infestor that caused the biting and crawling on me. I knew when I was infested pretty much right away and knew it was trouble, but never ,never thought this much. I now feel I have elimated the fowl mites with the sprays I used last year. They were obvious black specs under carpets/ rugs, sheets, etc, the size of periods on this sentence, everywhere. Joan is one of the few people in this room that also confirmed a fowl mite infestation by the very visable black specs ( granted many different sized species but these followed what an infestation is suppose to look like to the "PROS"). She was lucky enough to use cedacide successfully. I have not seen these in my environment since the heavy spraying. I think I have been left with something even smaller, that infests the fowl mite, and really likes me, my cars and home too.I too, am at the same point you are. Mainly just from the neck up. I really am starting to think it is a demodex mite gone wild. Maybe what infested the fowl mite is infesting the demodex now and driving them and dust mites in our homes and cars crazy. Bobby> So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand creatures'? This video also suggests that these "Star Wars spaceships" hurt when trying to exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin prick sensations?> > Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get "attacked". I feel more swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?

[Guest guest]

Good idea but was Repulsed at the time...Next time I think I'll be braver...so

just put it in a ziploc and maybe date it..

--- bessieglavas@... wrote:

From: " Bessie " <bessieglavas@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: Morgellons mystery is being solved

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:32:40 -0000

Rose -

I hope you save things like this. At some point SOME scientist is going to want

them. I so regret that the 1,000's of samples I had are all gone. The most

important one was in the freezer in my mobile home and a guest there threw it

away.

Bessie

> > > > So the crystals as described @3:31 are what Bobby calls 'sand

creatures'? This video also suggests that these " Star Wars spaceships " hurt when

trying to exit the skin. I suppose that's what could be causing the biting/pin

prick sensations?

> > > >

> > > > Then how about ppl like me that do not get the biting/pin prick as much

anymore? My biggest problem is the swarming/crawly sensation I have on my face

and scalp. However, when I get in my infested car, the only part of my skin not

covered in clothing, which is the face, starts to get " attacked " . I feel more

swarming, I feel dull pin-pricks (not the sharp ones), etc. So how does this

video explain things that are in the env vs the mold and the byproduct organisms

that try to come out of your skin as it is focused on?

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>