RE: bubble towers and snorkels

[Guest guest]

Hi

When in Florida 17 years ago , at the dock , I learned of fish disease . It

makes lesions that never heal but only grow. I went to the Dr & he said it is

empitigo. Cure: Keflex ( a strong antibiotic ) for 10 days & betadine applied

to the lesions & lathered to a golden lather, left 5-10 mins , then risned off.

( per directions on the big bottle of betadine )

This cured the empitigo.

I had small lesions on my head 4 years ago from this bug , they would not heal

, I poured on betadine , left for 5 -10 min and they were gone in 2 days. I

followed with kosher salt 1 teasp & 4 tblsp of white rain a mild shampoo mixed

& lathered into wet hair & left on to dry like & #39;moose & #39; . I used this

mix for 1 year. The lesions never returened. I also used listerene , the

original version . I poured it on my head for 10 mins , then I had to rinse

,..... it is menthol .

God bless you Katijll

,

Bill

Kajay109 wrote:

>  

> The best I can figure, the fiber critters have protective fibers, which

also serve as camouflage; fibers for feeding, breathing, and protection, such as

the instance WTG at Bodybugs photographed that shows one shooting a fiber

through the head of an ant and killing the ant instantly, and I've found many

also have a plastic like flexible (in the longer bodied ones) and rigid (in the

globe and ovoid bodied ones) straw with a beveled tip. This I think is used for

many purposes. I know they feed through it, because sometimes they have blood in

them, especially at the tip. I think they breathe through them, and that when I

rub oil into my skin and keep rubbing, I am disturbing their breathing, and

rubbing directly on the tip of that snorkel.

>  

> I have observed that when I am looking under the microscope and introduce

plain water to the critters, they exude bubbles. As I watched, the bubbles form

on top of each other and extend to the surface of the water. Duh, I finally

figured out that the bubbles allow air passage between them, that the critters

create these as an alternate means of breathing when their snorkels are blocked.

But when I keep rubbing the oil, that disperses the bubbles, and they are unable

to breathe for longer and longer periods. Once the layers of my skin have soaked

up sufficient oil, they seem not to be able to make more air bubbles, because if

I leave them alone after several minutes of massaging in the oil, they come to

the surface, where I can, if I am wearing gloves, transfer them to a lint

roller, where I can examine them more closely. This does not kill them, and many

of them have parasites as well, so once I have finished examining them, I remove

and fold the

> lint roller sheet over on itself to seal in any specimens I have collected.

>  

> katie

>  

>  

> From: rose_novalis <rosenovalis@ gmail.com> bird mites@ groups.

com Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 12:16:41 AM Subject: Re: Fiber

Critters - Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...?  

> Wow , I agree with Bessie - we are now entering the twilight zone with

the insect kingdom. It would be great to see a comprehensive film done on this -

maybe Jessie Ventura of Conspiracy theory will pick up on it for his show. Your

attack must have been unnerving to say the least! I've been wondering about it

since you first shared. How disturbing and sad, glad you could think and act

quickly . Do you think the red things were the little red spider mites? I

brought some garbage out to the garbage can last week and in the middle of the

large lid of the garbage can there was a little red spider mite. I didn't think

much about it and lifted the lid, threw the garbage in and by the time I closed

the lid - I caught site of the mite running as fast as it could toward my hand.

It was at my fingertip when I pulled my hand away. The only thing I could figure

was that the phermones were calling. I guess I won't be staying in one place

> very long outside until I am not attractive to the mites anymore. Luckily, so

far, I havn't had any episodes like you had - mostly just bird mite bites

as far as I know - but then what do I know about these fiber critters? Nada.

They may be biting me all day for all I know and I don't know it. I have some

mild stinging and crawling sensations but no bire marks or red lesions like I

had with the bird mite bites. I feel so bad I'm finding the fiber creatures in

my husband's bed every morning too now. I moved my bed in an attempt to isolate

myself before he had any bites. I've been sleeping on a lawn chair in my office

for 9 months now. But when I moved out, the remaining bird mites did bite him

and now he's got this other weird phenomena too. Thanks for sharing . The

more we know, the more we can try to understand. God Bless you, Rose N. > > > > > > Yes , we had the fiber balls.

What ever they are they are not normal. During my second year of this mess I

would gauge the effectiveness of my protocol by the number of the things I saw

in our house and on our skin. I was lucky that I could see mine with a black

light.....what I can see I can remove. I would vacuumed our

> bedrooms with the black light making sure I swept up each and every one of

the fiber balls. They were on our floors, furniture and on us. Seeing the fiber

balls under a microscope made me think I had something that could not be killed.

To this day I don't know or understand what they were. One person told me that

under an electron microscope it showed that the fiber balls had extremely tiny

worms inside them. Some of the fiber balls that we had were so very small they

blew right through our vacuum cleaner filters. I began to use my steam cleaner

as a vacuum so that the fiber balls would get caught up in the water of the

stream cleaner. > > I wanted to purchase a Rainbow vacuum because they use water

instead of bags to catch the dirt but they are just too expensive for my budget

so I settled on a very cheap but effective vacuum: http://www.whatever

works.com/ itemdy00. asp?c= & SKW=

> vacuum & SKW2= & TKW=NS04 & Scat= & GEN1= & OR= & parent= & T1=K9434 & PageNo=1 & pos=2 >

> > This vacuum uses water instead of bags and that kept the fiber balls from

flying through the filters and getting back into our home. I sealed any cracks

in this cheap vacuum with electrical tape. Any place I thought the things might

have a chance to blow through I taped it. > > > > > > We noticed that the fiber

balls were very deep down into our skin. The benzoyl peroxide seemed to work

well on the fiber balls because we could see with the black light that even the

extremely tiny ones were gone from our skin. As we look back over the nightmare

we saw things that didn't make sense. We still don't understand why what we did

worked against the things. We noticed that the Roach prufe seemed to work better

on the crawling ones and the Tempo worked the best on the biting ones. I saw the

fiber balls getting

> " caught up " in the Roach Prufe powder. So many that I had to sweep up the

powder on a monthly basis and apply more. Then after what seemed a life

time.......3 or 4 months if I am remembering correctly, I began to see less and

less of the fiber balls in our home. I would check with the black light and they

were not on the floors or furniture. We had to use the RP powder on and under

our beds to kill the fiber balls. Since we still feel > > the things trying to

get back on us in waiting rooms, hospitals, movie theaters, etc...... we have

learned that the coconut oil keeps the things from getting down into our skin.

We may feel a bite or to....especially in MRI scanning machines at hospitals,

but the oil seems to stop the progress of the bite from becoming that horrible

" wool shirt " feeling or the " sand paper " skin that usually followed the bites. I

am still left utterly baffled by the entire ordeal. The pain and suffering we

went through has

> changed us for ever. Some older members know that we had to put our two

little dogs to sleep over this nightmare because of the pain and suffering they

were going through. We still haven't got over that yet. I think all a person can

do is throw everything at this creature until they start to see less and less of

them in the environment. It took months for us to get them all out of our skin

and the last places to show involvement was our eyes, scalp and > > groin. I

know that with this " thing " ..... if you give it an inch it will take a mile. I

am pretty sure this thing is in the environment and moving through the wildlife.

I have watched so many birds and squirrels lose their hair and feathers and claw

at their skin leaving horrible sores on them. It's because of this that I won't

or can't let my guard down. I never go around any animals now. If my friends

have dogs or cats we meet some where else besides their home. I have ask my

children and

> grandchildren to use the coconut oil on their skin at night just to be sure

that they don't bring any of the " things " into our home. We are getting our home

back to normal now. Replacing furniture and clothing that we had to throw away.

I learned the hard way that every thing we buy new has to be covered in the RP

powder and sprayed with the tempo and left to sit for at least 6 to 8 weeks. Our

new leather furniture was infested with the crawling and biting things. We > >

are buying new beds now.....I am only buying beds that have a zippered top that

can be removed..... I take the top off and put the boric acid powder down inside

the mattress. Zip it back up and then dust the entire bed and box springs down

and place each piece inside a dust mite proof covering. > > > This is a hard

road to walk......but you will conquer this " thing " in time. Best of luck to

you, Rita > > > > > > Fiber Critters -

Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm

wondering how many of you have observed the fiber critters during and after

being bitten by the bird mites? And. . . for those of you who did experience the

fibers (a ball of black, white, gray, sometimes blue fibers of various sizes

like described in an earler post) and are no longer suffering directly

from the mites - did you recover from the fibers? I have no lesions from the

fibers but these fiber balls are on my bed every single morning - multiples. No

chance they can be lint or fibers from clothes or bedding - believe me. > > > >

> > I'm wondering if they

> eventually go away after the mites are gone? Or do they continue to multiply?

Has anyone had them progress to lesions? > > > > > > Any help much appreciated.

I'm so .o.o grateful the mites seem to be gone - sure hope they don't come back

with warmer weather. Does anyone know about that ? Do they disappear in the

winter and come back later? > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > Rose N. > > >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

When in Florida 17 years ago , at the dock , I learned of fish disease . It

makes lesions that never heal but only grow. I went to the Dr & he said it is

empitigo. Cure: Keflex ( a strong antibiotic ) for 10 days & betadine applied

to the lesions & lathered to a golden lather, left 5-10 mins , then risned off.

( per directions on the big bottle of betadine )

This cured the empitigo.

I had small lesions on my head 4 years ago from this bug , they would not heal

, I poured on betadine , left for 5 -10 min and they were gone in 2 days. I

followed with kosher salt 1 teasp & 4 tblsp of white rain a mild shampoo mixed

& lathered into wet hair & left on to dry like & #39;moose & #39; . I used this

mix for 1 year. The lesions never returened. I also used listerene , the

original version . I poured it on my head for 10 mins , then I had to rinse

,..... it is menthol .

God bless you Katijll

,

Bill

Kajay109 wrote:

>  

> The best I can figure, the fiber critters have protective fibers, which

also serve as camouflage; fibers for feeding, breathing, and protection, such as

the instance WTG at Bodybugs photographed that shows one shooting a fiber

through the head of an ant and killing the ant instantly, and I've found many

also have a plastic like flexible (in the longer bodied ones) and rigid (in the

globe and ovoid bodied ones) straw with a beveled tip. This I think is used for

many purposes. I know they feed through it, because sometimes they have blood in

them, especially at the tip. I think they breathe through them, and that when I

rub oil into my skin and keep rubbing, I am disturbing their breathing, and

rubbing directly on the tip of that snorkel.

>  

> I have observed that when I am looking under the microscope and introduce

plain water to the critters, they exude bubbles. As I watched, the bubbles form

on top of each other and extend to the surface of the water. Duh, I finally

figured out that the bubbles allow air passage between them, that the critters

create these as an alternate means of breathing when their snorkels are blocked.

But when I keep rubbing the oil, that disperses the bubbles, and they are unable

to breathe for longer and longer periods. Once the layers of my skin have soaked

up sufficient oil, they seem not to be able to make more air bubbles, because if

I leave them alone after several minutes of massaging in the oil, they come to

the surface, where I can, if I am wearing gloves, transfer them to a lint

roller, where I can examine them more closely. This does not kill them, and many

of them have parasites as well, so once I have finished examining them, I remove

and fold the

> lint roller sheet over on itself to seal in any specimens I have collected.

>  

> katie

>  

>  

> From: rose_novalis <rosenovalis@ gmail.com> bird mites@ groups.

com Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 12:16:41 AM Subject: Re: Fiber

Critters - Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...?  

> Wow , I agree with Bessie - we are now entering the twilight zone with

the insect kingdom. It would be great to see a comprehensive film done on this -

maybe Jessie Ventura of Conspiracy theory will pick up on it for his show. Your

attack must have been unnerving to say the least! I've been wondering about it

since you first shared. How disturbing and sad, glad you could think and act

quickly . Do you think the red things were the little red spider mites? I

brought some garbage out to the garbage can last week and in the middle of the

large lid of the garbage can there was a little red spider mite. I didn't think

much about it and lifted the lid, threw the garbage in and by the time I closed

the lid - I caught site of the mite running as fast as it could toward my hand.

It was at my fingertip when I pulled my hand away. The only thing I could figure

was that the phermones were calling. I guess I won't be staying in one place

> very long outside until I am not attractive to the mites anymore. Luckily, so

far, I havn't had any episodes like you had - mostly just bird mite bites

as far as I know - but then what do I know about these fiber critters? Nada.

They may be biting me all day for all I know and I don't know it. I have some

mild stinging and crawling sensations but no bire marks or red lesions like I

had with the bird mite bites. I feel so bad I'm finding the fiber creatures in

my husband's bed every morning too now. I moved my bed in an attempt to isolate

myself before he had any bites. I've been sleeping on a lawn chair in my office

for 9 months now. But when I moved out, the remaining bird mites did bite him

and now he's got this other weird phenomena too. Thanks for sharing . The

more we know, the more we can try to understand. God Bless you, Rose N. > > > > > > Yes , we had the fiber balls.

What ever they are they are not normal. During my second year of this mess I

would gauge the effectiveness of my protocol by the number of the things I saw

in our house and on our skin. I was lucky that I could see mine with a black

light.....what I can see I can remove. I would vacuumed our

> bedrooms with the black light making sure I swept up each and every one of

the fiber balls. They were on our floors, furniture and on us. Seeing the fiber

balls under a microscope made me think I had something that could not be killed.

To this day I don't know or understand what they were. One person told me that

under an electron microscope it showed that the fiber balls had extremely tiny

worms inside them. Some of the fiber balls that we had were so very small they

blew right through our vacuum cleaner filters. I began to use my steam cleaner

as a vacuum so that the fiber balls would get caught up in the water of the

stream cleaner. > > I wanted to purchase a Rainbow vacuum because they use water

instead of bags to catch the dirt but they are just too expensive for my budget

so I settled on a very cheap but effective vacuum: http://www.whatever

works.com/ itemdy00. asp?c= & SKW=

> vacuum & SKW2= & TKW=NS04 & Scat= & GEN1= & OR= & parent= & T1=K9434 & PageNo=1 & pos=2 >

> > This vacuum uses water instead of bags and that kept the fiber balls from

flying through the filters and getting back into our home. I sealed any cracks

in this cheap vacuum with electrical tape. Any place I thought the things might

have a chance to blow through I taped it. > > > > > > We noticed that the fiber

balls were very deep down into our skin. The benzoyl peroxide seemed to work

well on the fiber balls because we could see with the black light that even the

extremely tiny ones were gone from our skin. As we look back over the nightmare

we saw things that didn't make sense. We still don't understand why what we did

worked against the things. We noticed that the Roach prufe seemed to work better

on the crawling ones and the Tempo worked the best on the biting ones. I saw the

fiber balls getting

> " caught up " in the Roach Prufe powder. So many that I had to sweep up the

powder on a monthly basis and apply more. Then after what seemed a life

time.......3 or 4 months if I am remembering correctly, I began to see less and

less of the fiber balls in our home. I would check with the black light and they

were not on the floors or furniture. We had to use the RP powder on and under

our beds to kill the fiber balls. Since we still feel > > the things trying to

get back on us in waiting rooms, hospitals, movie theaters, etc...... we have

learned that the coconut oil keeps the things from getting down into our skin.

We may feel a bite or to....especially in MRI scanning machines at hospitals,

but the oil seems to stop the progress of the bite from becoming that horrible

" wool shirt " feeling or the " sand paper " skin that usually followed the bites. I

am still left utterly baffled by the entire ordeal. The pain and suffering we

went through has

> changed us for ever. Some older members know that we had to put our two

little dogs to sleep over this nightmare because of the pain and suffering they

were going through. We still haven't got over that yet. I think all a person can

do is throw everything at this creature until they start to see less and less of

them in the environment. It took months for us to get them all out of our skin

and the last places to show involvement was our eyes, scalp and > > groin. I

know that with this " thing " ..... if you give it an inch it will take a mile. I

am pretty sure this thing is in the environment and moving through the wildlife.

I have watched so many birds and squirrels lose their hair and feathers and claw

at their skin leaving horrible sores on them. It's because of this that I won't

or can't let my guard down. I never go around any animals now. If my friends

have dogs or cats we meet some where else besides their home. I have ask my

children and

> grandchildren to use the coconut oil on their skin at night just to be sure

that they don't bring any of the " things " into our home. We are getting our home

back to normal now. Replacing furniture and clothing that we had to throw away.

I learned the hard way that every thing we buy new has to be covered in the RP

powder and sprayed with the tempo and left to sit for at least 6 to 8 weeks. Our

new leather furniture was infested with the crawling and biting things. We > >

are buying new beds now.....I am only buying beds that have a zippered top that

can be removed..... I take the top off and put the boric acid powder down inside

the mattress. Zip it back up and then dust the entire bed and box springs down

and place each piece inside a dust mite proof covering. > > > This is a hard

road to walk......but you will conquer this " thing " in time. Best of luck to

you, Rita > > > > > > Fiber Critters -

Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm

wondering how many of you have observed the fiber critters during and after

being bitten by the bird mites? And. . . for those of you who did experience the

fibers (a ball of black, white, gray, sometimes blue fibers of various sizes

like described in an earler post) and are no longer suffering directly

from the mites - did you recover from the fibers? I have no lesions from the

fibers but these fiber balls are on my bed every single morning - multiples. No

chance they can be lint or fibers from clothes or bedding - believe me. > > > >

> > I'm wondering if they

> eventually go away after the mites are gone? Or do they continue to multiply?

Has anyone had them progress to lesions? > > > > > > Any help much appreciated.

I'm so .o.o grateful the mites seem to be gone - sure hope they don't come back

with warmer weather. Does anyone know about that ? Do they disappear in the

winter and come back later? > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > Rose N. > > >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

When in Florida 17 years ago , at the dock , I learned of fish disease . It

makes lesions that never heal but only grow. I went to the Dr & he said it is

empitigo. Cure: Keflex ( a strong antibiotic ) for 10 days & betadine applied

to the lesions & lathered to a golden lather, left 5-10 mins , then risned off.

( per directions on the big bottle of betadine )

This cured the empitigo.

I had small lesions on my head 4 years ago from this bug , they would not heal

, I poured on betadine , left for 5 -10 min and they were gone in 2 days. I

followed with kosher salt 1 teasp & 4 tblsp of white rain a mild shampoo mixed

& lathered into wet hair & left on to dry like & #39;moose & #39; . I used this

mix for 1 year. The lesions never returened. I also used listerene , the

original version . I poured it on my head for 10 mins , then I had to rinse

,..... it is menthol .

God bless you Katijll

,

Bill

Kajay109 wrote:

>  

> The best I can figure, the fiber critters have protective fibers, which

also serve as camouflage; fibers for feeding, breathing, and protection, such as

the instance WTG at Bodybugs photographed that shows one shooting a fiber

through the head of an ant and killing the ant instantly, and I've found many

also have a plastic like flexible (in the longer bodied ones) and rigid (in the

globe and ovoid bodied ones) straw with a beveled tip. This I think is used for

many purposes. I know they feed through it, because sometimes they have blood in

them, especially at the tip. I think they breathe through them, and that when I

rub oil into my skin and keep rubbing, I am disturbing their breathing, and

rubbing directly on the tip of that snorkel.

>  

> I have observed that when I am looking under the microscope and introduce

plain water to the critters, they exude bubbles. As I watched, the bubbles form

on top of each other and extend to the surface of the water. Duh, I finally

figured out that the bubbles allow air passage between them, that the critters

create these as an alternate means of breathing when their snorkels are blocked.

But when I keep rubbing the oil, that disperses the bubbles, and they are unable

to breathe for longer and longer periods. Once the layers of my skin have soaked

up sufficient oil, they seem not to be able to make more air bubbles, because if

I leave them alone after several minutes of massaging in the oil, they come to

the surface, where I can, if I am wearing gloves, transfer them to a lint

roller, where I can examine them more closely. This does not kill them, and many

of them have parasites as well, so once I have finished examining them, I remove

and fold the

> lint roller sheet over on itself to seal in any specimens I have collected.

>  

> katie

>  

>  

> From: rose_novalis <rosenovalis@ gmail.com> bird mites@ groups.

com Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 12:16:41 AM Subject: Re: Fiber

Critters - Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...?  

> Wow , I agree with Bessie - we are now entering the twilight zone with

the insect kingdom. It would be great to see a comprehensive film done on this -

maybe Jessie Ventura of Conspiracy theory will pick up on it for his show. Your

attack must have been unnerving to say the least! I've been wondering about it

since you first shared. How disturbing and sad, glad you could think and act

quickly . Do you think the red things were the little red spider mites? I

brought some garbage out to the garbage can last week and in the middle of the

large lid of the garbage can there was a little red spider mite. I didn't think

much about it and lifted the lid, threw the garbage in and by the time I closed

the lid - I caught site of the mite running as fast as it could toward my hand.

It was at my fingertip when I pulled my hand away. The only thing I could figure

was that the phermones were calling. I guess I won't be staying in one place

> very long outside until I am not attractive to the mites anymore. Luckily, so

far, I havn't had any episodes like you had - mostly just bird mite bites

as far as I know - but then what do I know about these fiber critters? Nada.

They may be biting me all day for all I know and I don't know it. I have some

mild stinging and crawling sensations but no bire marks or red lesions like I

had with the bird mite bites. I feel so bad I'm finding the fiber creatures in

my husband's bed every morning too now. I moved my bed in an attempt to isolate

myself before he had any bites. I've been sleeping on a lawn chair in my office

for 9 months now. But when I moved out, the remaining bird mites did bite him

and now he's got this other weird phenomena too. Thanks for sharing . The

more we know, the more we can try to understand. God Bless you, Rose N. > > > > > > Yes , we had the fiber balls.

What ever they are they are not normal. During my second year of this mess I

would gauge the effectiveness of my protocol by the number of the things I saw

in our house and on our skin. I was lucky that I could see mine with a black

light.....what I can see I can remove. I would vacuumed our

> bedrooms with the black light making sure I swept up each and every one of

the fiber balls. They were on our floors, furniture and on us. Seeing the fiber

balls under a microscope made me think I had something that could not be killed.

To this day I don't know or understand what they were. One person told me that

under an electron microscope it showed that the fiber balls had extremely tiny

worms inside them. Some of the fiber balls that we had were so very small they

blew right through our vacuum cleaner filters. I began to use my steam cleaner

as a vacuum so that the fiber balls would get caught up in the water of the

stream cleaner. > > I wanted to purchase a Rainbow vacuum because they use water

instead of bags to catch the dirt but they are just too expensive for my budget

so I settled on a very cheap but effective vacuum: http://www.whatever

works.com/ itemdy00. asp?c= & SKW=

> vacuum & SKW2= & TKW=NS04 & Scat= & GEN1= & OR= & parent= & T1=K9434 & PageNo=1 & pos=2 >

> > This vacuum uses water instead of bags and that kept the fiber balls from

flying through the filters and getting back into our home. I sealed any cracks

in this cheap vacuum with electrical tape. Any place I thought the things might

have a chance to blow through I taped it. > > > > > > We noticed that the fiber

balls were very deep down into our skin. The benzoyl peroxide seemed to work

well on the fiber balls because we could see with the black light that even the

extremely tiny ones were gone from our skin. As we look back over the nightmare

we saw things that didn't make sense. We still don't understand why what we did

worked against the things. We noticed that the Roach prufe seemed to work better

on the crawling ones and the Tempo worked the best on the biting ones. I saw the

fiber balls getting

> " caught up " in the Roach Prufe powder. So many that I had to sweep up the

powder on a monthly basis and apply more. Then after what seemed a life

time.......3 or 4 months if I am remembering correctly, I began to see less and

less of the fiber balls in our home. I would check with the black light and they

were not on the floors or furniture. We had to use the RP powder on and under

our beds to kill the fiber balls. Since we still feel > > the things trying to

get back on us in waiting rooms, hospitals, movie theaters, etc...... we have

learned that the coconut oil keeps the things from getting down into our skin.

We may feel a bite or to....especially in MRI scanning machines at hospitals,

but the oil seems to stop the progress of the bite from becoming that horrible

" wool shirt " feeling or the " sand paper " skin that usually followed the bites. I

am still left utterly baffled by the entire ordeal. The pain and suffering we

went through has

> changed us for ever. Some older members know that we had to put our two

little dogs to sleep over this nightmare because of the pain and suffering they

were going through. We still haven't got over that yet. I think all a person can

do is throw everything at this creature until they start to see less and less of

them in the environment. It took months for us to get them all out of our skin

and the last places to show involvement was our eyes, scalp and > > groin. I

know that with this " thing " ..... if you give it an inch it will take a mile. I

am pretty sure this thing is in the environment and moving through the wildlife.

I have watched so many birds and squirrels lose their hair and feathers and claw

at their skin leaving horrible sores on them. It's because of this that I won't

or can't let my guard down. I never go around any animals now. If my friends

have dogs or cats we meet some where else besides their home. I have ask my

children and

> grandchildren to use the coconut oil on their skin at night just to be sure

that they don't bring any of the " things " into our home. We are getting our home

back to normal now. Replacing furniture and clothing that we had to throw away.

I learned the hard way that every thing we buy new has to be covered in the RP

powder and sprayed with the tempo and left to sit for at least 6 to 8 weeks. Our

new leather furniture was infested with the crawling and biting things. We > >

are buying new beds now.....I am only buying beds that have a zippered top that

can be removed..... I take the top off and put the boric acid powder down inside

the mattress. Zip it back up and then dust the entire bed and box springs down

and place each piece inside a dust mite proof covering. > > > This is a hard

road to walk......but you will conquer this " thing " in time. Best of luck to

you, Rita > > > > > > Fiber Critters -

Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm

wondering how many of you have observed the fiber critters during and after

being bitten by the bird mites? And. . . for those of you who did experience the

fibers (a ball of black, white, gray, sometimes blue fibers of various sizes

like described in an earler post) and are no longer suffering directly

from the mites - did you recover from the fibers? I have no lesions from the

fibers but these fiber balls are on my bed every single morning - multiples. No

chance they can be lint or fibers from clothes or bedding - believe me. > > > >

> > I'm wondering if they

> eventually go away after the mites are gone? Or do they continue to multiply?

Has anyone had them progress to lesions? > > > > > > Any help much appreciated.

I'm so .o.o grateful the mites seem to be gone - sure hope they don't come back

with warmer weather. Does anyone know about that ? Do they disappear in the

winter and come back later? > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > Rose N. > > >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

When in Florida 17 years ago , at the dock , I learned of fish disease . It

makes lesions that never heal but only grow. I went to the Dr & he said it is

empitigo. Cure: Keflex ( a strong antibiotic ) for 10 days & betadine applied

to the lesions & lathered to a golden lather, left 5-10 mins , then risned off.

( per directions on the big bottle of betadine )

This cured the empitigo.

I had small lesions on my head 4 years ago from this bug , they would not heal

, I poured on betadine , left for 5 -10 min and they were gone in 2 days. I

followed with kosher salt 1 teasp & 4 tblsp of white rain a mild shampoo mixed

& lathered into wet hair & left on to dry like & #39;moose & #39; . I used this

mix for 1 year. The lesions never returened. I also used listerene , the

original version . I poured it on my head for 10 mins , then I had to rinse

,..... it is menthol .

God bless you Katijll

,

Bill

Kajay109 wrote:

>  

> The best I can figure, the fiber critters have protective fibers, which

also serve as camouflage; fibers for feeding, breathing, and protection, such as

the instance WTG at Bodybugs photographed that shows one shooting a fiber

through the head of an ant and killing the ant instantly, and I've found many

also have a plastic like flexible (in the longer bodied ones) and rigid (in the

globe and ovoid bodied ones) straw with a beveled tip. This I think is used for

many purposes. I know they feed through it, because sometimes they have blood in

them, especially at the tip. I think they breathe through them, and that when I

rub oil into my skin and keep rubbing, I am disturbing their breathing, and

rubbing directly on the tip of that snorkel.

>  

> I have observed that when I am looking under the microscope and introduce

plain water to the critters, they exude bubbles. As I watched, the bubbles form

on top of each other and extend to the surface of the water. Duh, I finally

figured out that the bubbles allow air passage between them, that the critters

create these as an alternate means of breathing when their snorkels are blocked.

But when I keep rubbing the oil, that disperses the bubbles, and they are unable

to breathe for longer and longer periods. Once the layers of my skin have soaked

up sufficient oil, they seem not to be able to make more air bubbles, because if

I leave them alone after several minutes of massaging in the oil, they come to

the surface, where I can, if I am wearing gloves, transfer them to a lint

roller, where I can examine them more closely. This does not kill them, and many

of them have parasites as well, so once I have finished examining them, I remove

and fold the

> lint roller sheet over on itself to seal in any specimens I have collected.

>  

> katie

>  

>  

> From: rose_novalis <rosenovalis@ gmail.com> bird mites@ groups.

com Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 12:16:41 AM Subject: Re: Fiber

Critters - Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...?  

> Wow , I agree with Bessie - we are now entering the twilight zone with

the insect kingdom. It would be great to see a comprehensive film done on this -

maybe Jessie Ventura of Conspiracy theory will pick up on it for his show. Your

attack must have been unnerving to say the least! I've been wondering about it

since you first shared. How disturbing and sad, glad you could think and act

quickly . Do you think the red things were the little red spider mites? I

brought some garbage out to the garbage can last week and in the middle of the

large lid of the garbage can there was a little red spider mite. I didn't think

much about it and lifted the lid, threw the garbage in and by the time I closed

the lid - I caught site of the mite running as fast as it could toward my hand.

It was at my fingertip when I pulled my hand away. The only thing I could figure

was that the phermones were calling. I guess I won't be staying in one place

> very long outside until I am not attractive to the mites anymore. Luckily, so

far, I havn't had any episodes like you had - mostly just bird mite bites

as far as I know - but then what do I know about these fiber critters? Nada.

They may be biting me all day for all I know and I don't know it. I have some

mild stinging and crawling sensations but no bire marks or red lesions like I

had with the bird mite bites. I feel so bad I'm finding the fiber creatures in

my husband's bed every morning too now. I moved my bed in an attempt to isolate

myself before he had any bites. I've been sleeping on a lawn chair in my office

for 9 months now. But when I moved out, the remaining bird mites did bite him

and now he's got this other weird phenomena too. Thanks for sharing . The

more we know, the more we can try to understand. God Bless you, Rose N. > > > > > > Yes , we had the fiber balls.

What ever they are they are not normal. During my second year of this mess I

would gauge the effectiveness of my protocol by the number of the things I saw

in our house and on our skin. I was lucky that I could see mine with a black

light.....what I can see I can remove. I would vacuumed our

> bedrooms with the black light making sure I swept up each and every one of

the fiber balls. They were on our floors, furniture and on us. Seeing the fiber

balls under a microscope made me think I had something that could not be killed.

To this day I don't know or understand what they were. One person told me that

under an electron microscope it showed that the fiber balls had extremely tiny

worms inside them. Some of the fiber balls that we had were so very small they

blew right through our vacuum cleaner filters. I began to use my steam cleaner

as a vacuum so that the fiber balls would get caught up in the water of the

stream cleaner. > > I wanted to purchase a Rainbow vacuum because they use water

instead of bags to catch the dirt but they are just too expensive for my budget

so I settled on a very cheap but effective vacuum: http://www.whatever

works.com/ itemdy00. asp?c= & SKW=

> vacuum & SKW2= & TKW=NS04 & Scat= & GEN1= & OR= & parent= & T1=K9434 & PageNo=1 & pos=2 >

> > This vacuum uses water instead of bags and that kept the fiber balls from

flying through the filters and getting back into our home. I sealed any cracks

in this cheap vacuum with electrical tape. Any place I thought the things might

have a chance to blow through I taped it. > > > > > > We noticed that the fiber

balls were very deep down into our skin. The benzoyl peroxide seemed to work

well on the fiber balls because we could see with the black light that even the

extremely tiny ones were gone from our skin. As we look back over the nightmare

we saw things that didn't make sense. We still don't understand why what we did

worked against the things. We noticed that the Roach prufe seemed to work better

on the crawling ones and the Tempo worked the best on the biting ones. I saw the

fiber balls getting

> " caught up " in the Roach Prufe powder. So many that I had to sweep up the

powder on a monthly basis and apply more. Then after what seemed a life

time.......3 or 4 months if I am remembering correctly, I began to see less and

less of the fiber balls in our home. I would check with the black light and they

were not on the floors or furniture. We had to use the RP powder on and under

our beds to kill the fiber balls. Since we still feel > > the things trying to

get back on us in waiting rooms, hospitals, movie theaters, etc...... we have

learned that the coconut oil keeps the things from getting down into our skin.

We may feel a bite or to....especially in MRI scanning machines at hospitals,

but the oil seems to stop the progress of the bite from becoming that horrible

" wool shirt " feeling or the " sand paper " skin that usually followed the bites. I

am still left utterly baffled by the entire ordeal. The pain and suffering we

went through has

> changed us for ever. Some older members know that we had to put our two

little dogs to sleep over this nightmare because of the pain and suffering they

were going through. We still haven't got over that yet. I think all a person can

do is throw everything at this creature until they start to see less and less of

them in the environment. It took months for us to get them all out of our skin

and the last places to show involvement was our eyes, scalp and > > groin. I

know that with this " thing " ..... if you give it an inch it will take a mile. I

am pretty sure this thing is in the environment and moving through the wildlife.

I have watched so many birds and squirrels lose their hair and feathers and claw

at their skin leaving horrible sores on them. It's because of this that I won't

or can't let my guard down. I never go around any animals now. If my friends

have dogs or cats we meet some where else besides their home. I have ask my

children and

> grandchildren to use the coconut oil on their skin at night just to be sure

that they don't bring any of the " things " into our home. We are getting our home

back to normal now. Replacing furniture and clothing that we had to throw away.

I learned the hard way that every thing we buy new has to be covered in the RP

powder and sprayed with the tempo and left to sit for at least 6 to 8 weeks. Our

new leather furniture was infested with the crawling and biting things. We > >

are buying new beds now.....I am only buying beds that have a zippered top that

can be removed..... I take the top off and put the boric acid powder down inside

the mattress. Zip it back up and then dust the entire bed and box springs down

and place each piece inside a dust mite proof covering. > > > This is a hard

road to walk......but you will conquer this " thing " in time. Best of luck to

you, Rita > > > > > > Fiber Critters -

Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm

wondering how many of you have observed the fiber critters during and after

being bitten by the bird mites? And. . . for those of you who did experience the

fibers (a ball of black, white, gray, sometimes blue fibers of various sizes

like described in an earler post) and are no longer suffering directly

from the mites - did you recover from the fibers? I have no lesions from the

fibers but these fiber balls are on my bed every single morning - multiples. No

chance they can be lint or fibers from clothes or bedding - believe me. > > > >

> > I'm wondering if they

> eventually go away after the mites are gone? Or do they continue to multiply?

Has anyone had them progress to lesions? > > > > > > Any help much appreciated.

I'm so .o.o grateful the mites seem to be gone - sure hope they don't come back

with warmer weather. Does anyone know about that ? Do they disappear in the

winter and come back later? > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > Rose N. > > >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Great research ,

Do you think the pin prick-like bites and sting sensations are from them poking

those feeders into us? Do you get any inflammation or lesions from them? Do you

believe they are breeding in our digestive system and the deeper layers of our

skin? Seems there is a connection between the digestive system and the skin.

Have you seen these critters move?

Thanks for sharing,

Rose N.

> > > >

> > > > Yes , we had the fiber balls. What ever they are they are not normal.

During my second year of this mess I would gauge the effectiveness of my

protocol by the number of the things I saw in our house and on our skin. I was

lucky that I could see mine with a black light.....what I can see I can remove.

I would vacuumed our bedrooms with the black light making sure I swept up each

and every one of the fiber balls. They were on our floors, furniture and on us.

Seeing the fiber balls under a microscope made me think I had something that

could not be killed. To this day I don't know or understand what they were. One

person told me that under an electron microscope it showed that the fiber balls

had extremely tiny worms inside them. Some of the fiber balls that we had were

so very small they blew right through our vacuum cleaner filters. I began to use

my steam cleaner as a vacuum so that the fiber balls would get caught up in the

water of the stream

> cleaner.

> > > I wanted to purchase a Rainbow vacuum because they use water instead of

bags to catch the dirt but they are just too expensive for my budget so I

settled on a very cheap but effective vacuum: http://www.whatever works.com/

itemdy00. asp?c= & SKW= vacuum & SKW2= & TKW=NS04 & Scat= & GEN1= & OR= & parent=

& T1=K9434 & PageNo=1 & pos=2

> > > > This vacuum uses water instead of bags and that kept the fiber balls

from flying through the filters and getting back into our home. I sealed any

cracks in this cheap vacuum with electrical tape. Any place I thought the things

might have a chance to blow through I taped it.

> > > >

> > > > We noticed that the fiber balls were very deep down into our skin. The

benzoyl peroxide seemed to work well on the fiber balls because we could see

with the black light that even the extremely tiny ones were gone from our skin.

As we look back over the nightmare we saw things that didn't make sense. We

still don't understand why what we did worked against the things. We noticed

that the Roach prufe seemed to work better on the crawling ones and the Tempo

worked the best on the biting ones. I saw the fiber balls getting " caught up " in

the Roach Prufe powder. So many that I had to sweep up the powder on a monthly

basis and apply more. Then after what seemed a life time.......3 or 4 months if

I am remembering correctly, I began to see less and less of the fiber balls in

our home. I would check with the black light and they were not on the floors or

furniture. We had to use the RP powder on and under our beds to kill the fiber

balls. Since we still feel

> > > the things trying to get back on us in waiting rooms, hospitals, movie

theaters, etc...... we have learned that the coconut oil keeps the things from

getting down into our skin. We may feel a bite or to....especially in MRI

scanning machines at hospitals, but the oil seems to stop the progress of the

bite from becoming that horrible " wool shirt " feeling or the " sand paper " skin

that usually followed the bites. I am still left utterly baffled by the entire

ordeal. The pain and suffering we went through has changed us for ever. Some

older members know that we had to put our two little dogs to sleep over this

nightmare because of the pain and suffering they were going through. We still

haven't got over that yet. I think all a person can do is throw everything at

this creature until they start to see less and less of them in the environment.

It took months for us to get them all out of our skin and the last places to

show involvement was our eyes, scalp

> and

> > > groin. I know that with this " thing " ..... if you give it an inch it will

take a mile. I am pretty sure this thing is in the environment and moving

through the wildlife. I have watched so many birds and squirrels lose their hair

and feathers and claw at their skin leaving horrible sores on them. It's because

of this that I won't or can't let my guard down. I never go around any animals

now. If my friends have dogs or cats we meet some where else besides their home.

I have ask my children and grandchildren to use the coconut oil on their skin at

night just to be sure that they don't bring any of the " things " into our home.

We are getting our home back to normal now. Replacing furniture and clothing

that we had to throw away. I learned the hard way that every thing we buy new

has to be covered in the RP powder and sprayed with the tempo and left to sit

for at least 6 to 8 weeks. Our new leather furniture was infested with the

crawling and biting things.

> We

> > > are buying new beds now.....I am only buying beds that have a zippered top

that can be removed..... I take the top off and put the boric acid powder down

inside the mattress. Zip it back up and then dust the entire bed and box springs

down and place each piece inside a dust mite proof covering.

> > > > This is a hard road to walk......but you will conquer this " thing " in

time. Best of luck to you, Rita

> > > >

> > > > Fiber Critters - Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > I'm wondering how many of you have observed the fiber critters during

and after being bitten by the bird mites? And. . . for those of you who did

experience the fibers (a ball of black, white, gray, sometimes blue fibers of

various sizes like described in an earler post) and are no longer

suffering directly from the mites - did you recover from the fibers? I have no

lesions from the fibers but these fiber balls are on my bed every single morning

- multiples. No chance they can be lint or fibers from clothes or bedding -

believe me.

> > > >

> > > > I'm wondering if they eventually go away after the mites are gone? Or do

they continue to multiply? Has anyone had them progress to lesions?

> > > >

> > > > Any help much appreciated. I'm so .o.o grateful the mites seem to be

gone - sure hope they don't come back with warmer weather. Does anyone know

about that ? Do they disappear in the winter and come back later?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks again,

> > > >

> > > > Rose N.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have most definitely seen them move, but, like any creature, they are cautious in the face of unknown events, that is, a lighted microscope descending over them. I have to leave the microscope on them--and not move it--for a while before they get the nerve to begin moving, at first tentatively. But yes, I have seen plenty of them move.

The fiber critters, when stuck on my lint roller sheet, rock back and forth or vibrate an effort to attain a position where they have a better chance of pushing off the sticky sheet. Ultimately, of course, they wind up getting themselves even more stuck, because the sheet will grab any fiber, leg, or part of them and that is that.

The ICE PICK bites in my socks (there's nothing pin-sized about them) are in my case anyway caused by the black weevil mites. They are shiny black, elongated, non-fibrous, and have a pointed snout that turns down. They have short snorkels and stubby triangular legs. They are not the classic morg mite.

The ice pick bites I get elsewhere are usually from the medium-sized cigar (worker) or ovoid (nurse) fibrous mites. (The roles are my own estimation based on the behaviors I have witnessed.)

katie

From: rose_novalis <rosenovalis@...>bird mites Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 10:17:59 PMSubject: Re: bubble towers and snorkels

Great research ,Do you think the pin prick-like bites and sting sensations are from them poking those feeders into us? Do you get any inflammation or lesions from them? Do you believe they are breeding in our digestive system and the deeper layers of our skin? Seems there is a connection between the digestive system and the skin.Have you seen these critters move?Thanks for sharing,Rose N.> > > >> > > > Yes , we had the fiber balls. What ever they are they are not normal. During my second year of this mess I would gauge the effectiveness of my protocol by the number of the things I saw in our house and on our skin. I was lucky that I could see mine with a black light.....what I can see I can

remove. I would vacuumed our bedrooms with the black light making sure I swept up each and every one of the fiber balls. They were on our floors, furniture and on us. Seeing the fiber balls under a microscope made me think I had something that could not be killed. To this day I don't know or understand what they were. One person told me that under an electron microscope it showed that the fiber balls had extremely tiny worms inside them. Some of the fiber balls that we had were so very small they blew right through our vacuum cleaner filters. I began to use my steam cleaner as a vacuum so that the fiber balls would get caught up in the water of the stream> cleaner.> > > I wanted to purchase a Rainbow vacuum because they use water instead of bags to catch the dirt but they are just too expensive for my budget so I settled on a very cheap but effective vacuum: http://www.whatever works.com/ itemdy00. asp?c= & SKW= vacuum & SKW2= & TKW=NS04 & Scat= & GEN1= & OR= & parent= & T1=K9434 & PageNo=1 & pos=2 > > > > This vacuum uses water instead of bags and that kept the fiber balls from flying through the filters and getting back into our home. I sealed any cracks in this cheap vacuum with electrical tape. Any place I thought the things might have a chance to blow through I taped it.> > > > > > > > We noticed that the fiber balls were very deep down into our skin. The benzoyl peroxide seemed to work well on the fiber balls because we could see with the black light that even the extremely tiny ones were gone from our skin. As we look back over the nightmare we saw things that didn't make sense. We still don't understand why what we did worked against the things. We noticed that the Roach prufe seemed to work better on the

crawling ones and the Tempo worked the best on the biting ones. I saw the fiber balls getting "caught up" in the Roach Prufe powder. So many that I had to sweep up the powder on a monthly basis and apply more. Then after what seemed a life time.......3 or 4 months if I am remembering correctly, I began to see less and less of the fiber balls in our home. I would check with the black light and they were not on the floors or furniture. We had to use the RP powder on and under our beds to kill the fiber balls. Since we still feel> > > the things trying to get back on us in waiting rooms, hospitals, movie theaters, etc...... we have learned that the coconut oil keeps the things from getting down into our skin. We may feel a bite or to....especially in MRI scanning machines at hospitals, but the oil seems to stop the progress of the bite from becoming that horrible "wool shirt" feeling or the "sand paper" skin that usually followed the bites. I

am still left utterly baffled by the entire ordeal. The pain and suffering we went through has changed us for ever. Some older members know that we had to put our two little dogs to sleep over this nightmare because of the pain and suffering they were going through. We still haven't got over that yet. I think all a person can do is throw everything at this creature until they start to see less and less of them in the environment. It took months for us to get them all out of our skin and the last places to show involvement was our eyes, scalp> and> > > groin. I know that with this "thing"..... if you give it an inch it will take a mile. I am pretty sure this thing is in the environment and moving through the wildlife. I have watched so many birds and squirrels lose their hair and feathers and claw at their skin leaving horrible sores on them. It's because of this that I won't or can't let my guard down. I never go around any animals

now. If my friends have dogs or cats we meet some where else besides their home. I have ask my children and grandchildren to use the coconut oil on their skin at night just to be sure that they don't bring any of the "things" into our home. We are getting our home back to normal now. Replacing furniture and clothing that we had to throw away. I learned the hard way that every thing we buy new has to be covered in the RP powder and sprayed with the tempo and left to sit for at least 6 to 8 weeks. Our new leather furniture was infested with the crawling and biting things.> We> > > are buying new beds now.....I am only buying beds that have a zippered top that can be removed..... I take the top off and put the boric acid powder down inside the mattress. Zip it back up and then dust the entire bed and box springs down and place each piece inside a dust mite proof covering. > > > > This is a hard road to walk......but you

will conquer this "thing" in time. Best of luck to you, Rita> > > > > > > > Fiber Critters - Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > > > > I'm wondering how many of you have observed the fiber critters during and after being bitten by the bird mites? And. . . for those of you who did experience the fibers (a ball of black, white, gray, sometimes blue fibers of various sizes like described in an earler post) and are no longer suffering directly from the mites - did you recover from the fibers? I have no lesions from the fibers but these fiber balls

are on my bed every single morning - multiples. No chance they can be lint or fibers from clothes or bedding - believe me.> > > > > > > > I'm wondering if they eventually go away after the mites are gone? Or do they continue to multiply? Has anyone had them progress to lesions?> > > > > > > > Any help much appreciated. I'm so .o.o grateful the mites seem to be gone - sure hope they don't come back with warmer weather. Does anyone know about that ? Do they disappear in the winter and come back later?> > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > Rose N.> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: Kajay109 <kajay109@... Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 10:51:56 PMSubject: Re: [] Re: bubble towers and snorkels

I have most definitely seen them move, but, like any creature, they are cautious in the face of unknown events, that is, a lighted microscope descending over them. I have to leave the microscope on them--and not move it--for a while before they get the nerve to begin moving, at first tentatively. But yes, I have seen plenty of them move. The fiber critters, when stuck on my lint roller sheet, rock back and forth or vibrate an effort to attain a position where they have a better chance of pushing off the sticky sheet. Ultimately, of course, they wind up getting themselves even more stuck, because the sheet will grab any fiber, leg, or part of them and that is that. The ICE PICK bites in my socks (there's nothing pin-sized about them) are in my case anyway caused by the black weevil mites. They are shiny black, elongated, non-fibrous, and have a pointed snout that turns down. They have short snorkels and

stubby triangular legs. They are not the classic morg mite. The ice pick bites I get elsewhere are usually from the medium-sized cigar (worker) or ovoid (nurse) fibrous mites. (The roles are my own estimation based on the behaviors I have witnessed.) katie

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------From: rose_novalis <rosenovalis@ gmail.comSent: Tue, January 5, 2010 10:17:59 PMSubject: [] Re: bubble towers and snorkels

Great research ,

Do you think the pin prick-like bites and sting sensations are from them poking those feeders into us? Do you get any inflammation or lesions from them? Do you believe they are breeding in our digestive system and the deeper layers of our skin? Seems there is a connection between the digestive system and the skin.

Have you seen these critters move?

Thanks for sharing,

Rose N.

Yes , we had the fiber balls. What ever they are they are not normal. During my second year of this mess I would gauge the effectiveness of my protocol by the number of the things I saw in our house and on our skin. I was lucky that I could see mine with a black light.....what I can see I can remove. I would vacuumed our bedrooms with the black light making sure I swept up each and every one of the fiber balls. They were on our floors, furniture and on us. Seeing the fiber balls under a microscope made me think I had something that could not be killed. To this day I don't know or understand what they were. One person told me that under an electron microscope it showed that the fiber balls had extremely tiny worms inside them. Some of the fiber balls that we had were so very small they blew right through our vacuum cleaner filters. I began to use my steam cleaner as a vacuum so that the fiber balls would get caught up in the water

of the streamcleaner.I wanted to purchase a Rainbow vacuum because they use water instead of bags to catch the dirt but they are just too expensive for my budget so I settled on a very cheap but effective vacuum:

http://www.whateverworks.com/itemdy00.asp?c= & SKW=vacuum & SKW2= & TKW=NS04 & Scat= & GEN1= & OR= & parent= & T1=K9434 & PageNo=1 & pos=2

This vacuum uses water instead of bags and that kept the fiber balls from flying through the filters and getting back into our home. I sealed any cracks in this cheap vacuum with electrical tape. Any place I thought the things might have a chance to blow through I taped it.

We noticed that the fiber balls were very deep down into our skin. The benzoyl peroxide seemed to work well on the fiber balls because we could see with the black light that even the extremely tiny ones were gone from our skin. As we look back over the nightmare we saw things that didn't make sense. We still don't understand why what we did worked against the things. We noticed that the Roach prufe seemed to work better on the crawling ones and the Tempo worked the best on the biting ones. I saw the fiber balls getting "caught up" in the Roach Prufe powder. So many that I had to sweep up the powder on a monthly basis and apply more. Then after what seemed a life time.......3 or 4 months if I am remembering correctly, I began to see less and less of the fiber balls in our home. I would check with the black light and they were not on the floors or furniture. We had to use the RP powder on and under our beds to kill the fiber balls.

Since we still feel the things trying to get back on us in waiting rooms, hospitals, movie theaters, etc...... we have learned that the coconut oil keeps the things from getting down into our skin. We may feel a bite or two....especially in MRI scanning machines at hospitals, but the oil seems to stop the progress of the bite from becoming that horrible "wool shirt" feeling or the "sand paper" skin that usually followed the bites. I am still left utterly baffled by the entire ordeal. The pain and suffering we went through has changed us for ever. Some older members know that we had to put our two little dogs to sleep over this nightmare because of the pain and suffering they were going through. We still haven't got over that yet. I think all a person can do is throw everything at this creature until they start to see less and less of them in the environment. It took months for us to get them all out of our skin and the last places to show involvement

was our eyes, scalp and groin.

I know that with this "thing"..... if you give it an inch it will take a mile. I am pretty sure this thing is in the environment and moving through the wildlife. I have watched so many birds and squirrels lose their hair and feathers and claw at their skin leaving horrible sores on them. It's because of this that I won't or can't let my guard down. I never go around any animals now. If my friends have dogs or cats we meet some where else besides their home. I have ask my children and grandchildren to use the coconut oil on their skin at night just to be sure that they don't bring any of the "things" into our home. We are getting our home back to normal now. Replacing furniture and clothing that we had to throw away. I learned the hard way that every thing we buy new has to be covered in the RP powder and sprayed with the tempo and left to sit for at least 6 to 8 weeks. Our new leather furniture was infested with the crawling and

biting things.Weare buying new beds now.....I am only buying beds that have a zippered top that can be removed..... I take the top off and put the boric acid powder down inside the mattress. Zip it back up and then dust the entire bed and box springs down and place each piece inside a dust mite proof covering. This is a hard road to walk......but you will conquer this "thing" in time. Best of luck to you, Rita

[] Fiber Critters - Rita, Bessie, Marie and ...?

Hi All,I'm wondering how many of you have observed the fiber critters during and after being bitten by the bird mites? And. . . for those of you who did experience the fibers (a ball of black, white, gray, sometimes blue fibers of various sizes like described in an earler post) and are no longer suffering directly from the mites - did you recover from the fibers? I have no lesions from the fibers but these fiber balls are on my bed every single morning - multiples. No chance they can be lint or fibers from clothes or bedding - believe me.

I'm wondering if they eventually go away after the mites are gone? Or do they continue to multiply? Has anyone had them progress to lesions?

Any help much appreciated. I'm so .o.o grateful the mites seem to be gone - sure hope they don't come back with warmer weather. Does anyone know about that ? Do they disappear in the winter and come back later?

Thanks again,

Rose N.